Privilege to teach Bitcoin in church

[Fivestar4everMVP]

OP, I will be the most insensitive person if I fail to acknowledge the fact that you've really put alot of effort into this, and it's really commendable.
First, public speaking isn't that easy, let alone, teaching adults, but to be honest with you, teaching bitcoin in church doesn't sit well with me, church is a place to worship God, and not a place to introduce people into investment ideas or business ideas.. I have my reasons for saying this, and one of this reasons is that, some of this people(church members) can decide to invest and in the process, loss their money, and when this happens, they turn to blame you for their loss, and some of this people might end up leaving that church because they feel a fellow member cheated them and they can't bear seeing you when they come to worship God...

So for this and many other reasons I didn't mention, I prefer the church being a place to worship God, every other stuffs like teaching bitcoin and all that should be done outside the church.

I wish to comment on disadvantages of bitcoin number one....
I do not count the price volatility of bitcoin as a disadvantage, it is actually one of the biggest advantages bitcoin has over other types of assets and currencies, the high price volatility in bitcoin is one of the major advantage that have helped bitcoin has create alot of Billionaires and millionaires in this space in a very short period of time, so I personally count this as an advantage, not disadvantage.

[KingsDen]

I really appreciate the efforts of Op in spreading the bitcoin news in his neighbourhood and even in the worship place. If everyone in this forum should be making similar efforts, bitcoin adoption would have been pushed further. I used to make this type of efforts in my newbie and member days, but it seems that many things have overtaken me or probably because I relocated to a distant place .

I do not count the price volatility of bitcoin as a disadvantage, it is actually one of the biggest advantages bitcoin has over other types of assets and currencies, the high price volatility in bitcoin is one of the major advantage that have helped bitcoin has create alot of Billionaires and millionaires in this space in a very short period of time, so I personally count this as an advantage, not disadvantage.

Op, made similar topic where he thought at workplace, I pointed out this exact thing but it seems he didn't read it or he's fixed to his believe.
Volatility can be an advantage and also disadvantage, but I feel it should be emphasised on advantage rather than disadvantage. I believe that if btc was a stable coin, even Op wouldn't have been here.

[Oasisman]

Appreciate the effort there OP. I'm also surprised that this has not brought you any problem of conflict in interest as churches usually don't talk about investment tools. Well, maybe not every religion thinks about what the church I had before as their principles. Most churches thinks money will make someone greedy - so they don't talk about investment that much or not at all.
On the brighter side, as long as you do not encourage them to invest, you're only giving them the basic knowledge about Bitcoin, then I guess you're in a good hand. Because, believe me or not, someone and somehow there will always be your critic, most especially that you're preaching about Bitcoin in a church. Nevertheless, just continue to teach and share your Bitcoin knowledge everywhere when you have the chance.

[freedomgo]

In my country churches have made big changes in the society providing education. Maybe here it is little different, but something after the regular service is good. People need to know about everything happening around and the same will create awareness and according to their need one can make use of it.

Whether it’s in the church or in any religious gathering, I guess learning should never stop especially for a certain topic that you know will be very useful in the future. And bitcoin is not an exception. As long as you never teach them against their will, that will be very fine. Because in the very first place, you won’t develop learning in them if they don’t have the interest from the start.

[Slow death]

in my opinion you did well to teach people about bitcoin because bitcoin is equal to money, so people in your church can accept bitcoin donations, but for that to happen they need to learn more about bitcoin, I'm just going to be hard on you on this one. of you posting these people, I think it was a huge exaggeration and you should remove these photos. also be careful, see if the church people really understand the risk of losing money and if they are not confused people, confused people are capable of buying bitcoin and losing money and then blaming you

[milewilda]

In my country churches have made big changes in the society providing education. Maybe here it is little different, but something after the regular service is good. People need to know about everything happening around and the same will create awareness and according to their need one can make use of it.

Whether it’s in the church or in any religious gathering, I guess learning should never stop especially for a certain topic that you know will be very useful in the future. And bitcoin is not an exception. As long as you never teach them against their will, that will be very fine. Because in the very first place, you won’t develop learning in them if they don’t have the interest from the start.

As a certain person who do thrive on sharing up the opportunity on where Bitcoin gives or simply with the benefits then you would really be having interest on sharing up this good thing.You would definitely
notice directly if people does have the interest or not, if you do see that there's some interest into their eyes then this is where you do make your discussion to continue.Its true that it doesnt matter
if this one would happen on a church or not, as long you do make yourself on the right timing or appropriate ones  (not have a mass) then it would be considerable.
You do have the freedom on doing so,teaching does really spread out awareness of bitcoins existence and this do help somehow when it comes or do talks about recognition.

[Russlenat]

That's a good idea if your purpose is to educate them, we've seen many churches now accepting Bitcoin as a donation and it might be good if they even know basic technical knowledge about Bitcoin and how it'll work.  It's also awareness to them, you can give them as an example that there's a church now accepting Bitcoin as a financial donation or transaction and it might your church will do the same.

I didn't see any wrong if you'll discuss this in your church, Bitcoin is not a curse to be feared, yet, it's an advantageous technology that can be useful to anyone.

Its good to see that you have given the privilege to teach bitcoin  in a church, that way it will bring awareness to the people and will clear out the issues that bitcoin is a scam and a quick rich scheme. Bitcoin is a great innovation so people deserve to know about it since it can be very useful for them when the world is ready for bitcoin global adoption.

[Finestream]

I'd be kinda fine with this as long as you didn't recommend people to buy bitcoin, and if you made it very clear that bitcoin is a very risky hold(which it looks like you did inform them based on the flyer).

While there's nothing really wrong with doing this in the church, it'd be better if you did it somewhere else as some charlatan might use these photos saying that people are promoting ponzi schemes in your church.

Teaching is not prohibited in any place as long as the place is conducive to learning. However, since the topic is quite controversial, then i agree that you should have done it outside the church. That way, you can avoid some future issues. I'm just glad to know that there are really some of your learners who eventually become interested in bitcoin after you teach them. Just never convince them to buy and hold bitcoin, because it should be their own will so that whatever happens to their investment, you will never be the one to blame.

[Kelvinid]

I'd be kinda fine with this as long as you didn't recommend people to buy bitcoin, and if you made it very clear that bitcoin is a very risky hold(which it looks like you did inform them based on the flyer).

While there's nothing really wrong with doing this in the church, it'd be better if you did it somewhere else as some charlatan might use these photos saying that people are promoting ponzi schemes in your church.

Teaching is not prohibited in any place as long as the place is conducive to learning. However, since the topic is quite controversial, then i agree that you should have done it outside the church. That way, you can avoid some future issues. I'm just glad to know that there are really some of your learners who eventually become interested in bitcoin after you teach them. Just never convince them to buy and hold bitcoin, because it should be their own will so that whatever happens to their investment, you will never be the one to blame.

There is a right place to do this and I agree, this shouldn't be done inside the church as it was a sacred place.

It was been looking good that there is a growing interest in the community. Well, teaching these people is not hard knowing that they will certainly listen and their minds are wide open to understand how this works. It simply won't be done easily, probably not in a single day but I was sure these people who see the potential of Bitcoin will get what it deserves them. As the discussion continue, they find out that those who say it was scam or ponzi are wrong.

[taufik123]

It was been looking good that there is a growing interest in the community. Well, teaching these people is not hard knowing that they will certainly listen and their minds are wide open to understand how this works. It simply won't be done easily, probably not in a single day but I was sure these people who see the potential of Bitcoin will get what it deserves them. As the discussion continue, they find out that those who say it was scam or ponzi are wrong.

Those who initially said it was a scam and ponzi of course they didn't know what bitcoin was and how bitcoin worked because they didn't get any education about bitcoin. When there is a moment like this, where the young people around give some important education about bitcoin, their minds will open and understand how bitcoin works. This makes them more interested in learning about bitcoin and the technology behind it. this is the first step for them to be more advanced and not left behind by the others.

[Zlantann]

I totally go against teaching bitcoin in the church, a place of service isn't a business or e-commerce trade zone where financial empowerment is taking place,

It is true that the church is a place where the spiritual needs of the people are met and shouldn't be used as a place to carry out economic activities because even Jesus Christ discourages such acts. But in recent times we have seen the church becoming a key player in diverse sectors of the economy of most nations. We have seen some churches establishing universities and investing in other sectors of the economy.

Churches now don't only care about the spiritual needs of their members but also the financial or economic needs. We have seen churches inviting or hiring business or financial experts to conduct seminars on different topics to help members gain some information that would make them profit financially. Churches also organize skill acquisition seminars to empower members with some needed skills that would make them financially stable. Hence, what OP has done in is not against the current happenings in the church.  

 

moreover there's a topic already created that talks about this same idea Bitcoin Class in the Church (14TH August, 2022 so I don't know if you're the one having a piracy to the topic to phish for merits or same person indulging under a covering, if you must teach bitcoin, go to the street, neighborhood, market, companies and organizations and introduce bitcoin to them, lastly make use of the search button to check for related topics being already discussed

Although I might not be able to perfectly decode the intention of OP for making this effort, but what he did is commendable. Sometimes this forum is the only place where members share their activities or daily encounters with Bitcoin. And most times the commendation and appreciation they receive from members serves as a form of motivation and encouragement to do more. I also feel that the corrections and advice members give to them when they create these threads are very helpful not to only the original poster but to others that read it.

I always encourage people to be unique and original but sometimes another person's experience could also serve as a motivation to do the same thing when such an opportunity arise. If not for Coca-Cola coke, Pepsi wouldn't have existed. But both of them have a unique taste and offers different experiences. Members like Frankolala should be encouraged to share their Bitcoin experience.

[Agbe]

Bitcoin Class in the Church (14TH August, 2022 so I don't know if you're the one having a piracy to the topic to phish for merits or same person indulging under a covering,

Please I am not the one. I can't create one topic twice...that is Spamming. Unless a class that has a theorical and practical classes. I don't have alt-acct. Even though not all at least I know some of the forum rules. I can only update my thread if such idea comes...or make a comment on my thread, please, we are not one.

[Wind_FURY]

It was been looking good that there is a growing interest in the community. Well, teaching these people is not hard knowing that they will certainly listen and their minds are wide open to understand how this works. It simply won't be done easily, probably not in a single day but I was sure these people who see the potential of Bitcoin will get what it deserves them. As the discussion continue, they find out that those who say it was scam or ponzi are wrong.

Those who initially said it was a scam and ponzi of course they didn't know what bitcoin was and how bitcoin worked because they didn't get any education about bitcoin. When there is a moment like this, where the young people around give some important education about bitcoin, their minds will open and understand how bitcoin works. This makes them more interested in learning about bitcoin and the technology behind it. this is the first step for them to be more advanced and not left behind by the others.

It's not a scam, but it can be debated that it started as a "Naturally-Occurring Ponzi" because most of its value is market-driven, but not a "Ponzi" as in there's a centralized entity to "scam" you. Bitcoin is just like Gold. It started to be HODLed, and valued, with a market behind it causing its price to surge, and to sell it higher, someone must enter the system with new money. THEN an economy was built around it through the first dark markets, giving it a "circular economy" and real world value. That's when it stopped being a "Ponzi" in my opinion.

[SirLancelot]

From my understanding bitcoin is not good to fish in the church it is only good to teach in school so that they will understand what bitcoin is all about teaching Bitcoin in George is just to compare it with God so I don't think that teaching Bitcoin in church is a good idea it will make her look as if you are bringing business or investments to church to pass it through the people in the church which is strong from the way I am saying it so the best place to do the Bitcoin in school and also have your own school of cryptocurrency where people come and learn Bitcoin

I know that church seems to be a holy place but I think people who go or work in a church can also talk about random things which aren't totally related to god so I think talking about btc on their spare time or when the mass is over is fine. I don't know if all church have this, but here in ours they have some kind of offering where church workers ask for some amount to the people who attend in mass.

I am thinking that maybe people can use btc for this? I know it sounds silly but it was still a form of donation right? But it's only being done in an innovative way. Not all people can go to school so btc shouldn't be limited to be taught in schools. Btc can be teach to any people anywhere they are but of course btc must be legal on that country so that we won't be in trouble.

[Marykeller]

The idea of teaching bitcoin in the church should be taught to the younger generation before bringing it to the notice of the elderly ones. Why I said that is because some of our African parents forget things easily, they can make a simple mistake that can cost them their fortunes. The only person they are going to blame is you.

We are in the digital era and some of our African parents have difficulties understanding how it works. Many don't have a big phone or a computer system. How do you think they are understanding what you are teaching them

[Pokapoka124]

The idea of teaching bitcoin in the church should be taught to the younger generation before bringing it to the notice of the elderly ones. Why I said that is because some of our African parents forget things easily, they can make a simple mistake that can cost them their fortunes. The only person they are going to blame is you.

We are in the digital era and some of our African parents have difficulties understanding how it works. Many don't have a big phone or a computer system. How do you think they are understanding what you are teaching them

You make a valid point. Though bitcoin doesn’t know age, gender or society hierarchy I think it’s more effective to teach younger people because there is a greater chance they will explore and put what they have been taught into good use. Digital illiteracy is a major disadvantage to those in age groups 60-85, they do not have much knowledge about the internet, it will be futile to expect them to grasp what is being taught.

[kryptqnick]

I am not religious, but I like it when religious institutions go beyond the matters of religion and help people learn something new. Church and education have been actually going hand-in-hand for many centuries (churches and monasteries where places where people could read and comment on various texts and churches often organized schools for children), so it isn't anything compeletely out of order or against tradition. If it's indeed focused on providing information, not investment advice (and it seems that it was indeed an educational event), I don't think people should think badly about it at all. It is good that people like the op exist and try to make a difference in their communities.

[Mate2237]

I totally go against teaching bitcoin in the church, a place of service isn't a business or e-commerce trade zone where financial empowerment is taking place,

It is true that the church is a place where the spiritual needs of the people are met and shouldn't be used as a place to carry out economic activities because even Jesus Christ discourages such acts. But in recent times we have seen the church becoming a key player in diverse sectors of the economy of most nations. We have seen some churches establishing universities and investing in other sectors of the economy.

I might say that is a misconception of human thinking. Does the church accept offering? if yes where do you think the members got the money to put offering. Telling the church members about cryptocurrency (bitcoin) is not a bad thing. 348Judah from what you are saying, you are one of those who sees bitcoin as an evil coin or for scammers if not I don't see anything bad of orienting people on bitcoin in the church. Bitcoin is a digital money (currency) which can be used the way fiat money (currency) is used. So what is the bad aspect of bitcoin that is not good teach educate people in the church.

True believers (born again) respect the church, but they have bought one thing or the other in the church, what do you call that one? business or what? My brother or sister, when are inform, you will be educated and aware of the social activities and when are not inform, definitely, you must be deform, that is where ignorance is not a disease statement comes to play.

@Frokolala thanks for your initiative, go ahead and do more. we need the people's adoption before the government adoption so that when the government adopts it, the people are already aware so there will no too much orientation at that time.

[Sanitough]

In my country churches have made big changes in the society providing education. Maybe here it is little different, but something after the regular service is good. People need to know about everything happening around and the same will create awareness and according to their need one can make use of it.

Even in my own country, churches have become more tight when it comes to teachings not related to church. You can stay in the church as long as it’s for religious education, other than that you can do it outside the church. However, with this scenario, it’s really a privilege that you are given a chance to teach bitcoin in the church. But always focus on the facts and give them assurance that bitcoin is not a big scam. But never fail to inform them that investing in bitcoin has its own risk so one should never start investing if he has not completely understood bitcoin and crypto market in the first place.

[Wakate]

I really appreciate the efforts of Op in spreading the bitcoin news in his neighbourhood and even in the worship place. If everyone in this forum should be making similar efforts, bitcoin adoption would have been pushed further. I used to make this type of efforts in my newbie and member days, but it seems that many things have overtaken me or probably because I relocated to a distant place .

I do not count the price volatility of bitcoin as a disadvantage, it is actually one of the biggest advantages bitcoin has over other types of assets and currencies, the high price volatility in bitcoin is one of the major advantage that have helped bitcoin has create alot of Billionaires and millionaires in this space in a very short period of time, so I personally count this as an advantage, not disadvantage.

Op, made similar topic where he thought at workplace, I pointed out this exact thing but it seems he didn't read it or he's fixed to his believe.
Volatility can be an advantage and also disadvantage, but I feel it should be emphasised on advantage rather than disadvantage. I believe that if btc was a stable coin, even Op wouldn't have been here.

For those of us that are never religious, we might not know the privilege of teaching about what you do or like doing in a congregation where people are ever ready to follow what you are about to teach whether it's benefiting or not. Op had taken a great step in enlightening people of his religion of what Bitcoin is and I know it would have cost him some funds to put this into play.
We need to spread the good news about Bitcoin so that we can give people the opportunity to invest in a coin and market where they can benefit in a long run.