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Author Topic: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers➡Group Stage➡1/8➡QF➡HF➡FINAL  (Read 46317 times)
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July 17, 2024, 09:28:01 PM
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You consider Germany and France to be very strong opponents for Spain, while you consider Netherlands and Switzerland as weak opponents for England. Find out more about what Netherlands has achieved in football and how strong Switzerland is in football. Germany and France were tough opponents for Spain and Switzerland and Netherlands were much tougher opponents for England. You have to accept that England performed well in the quarter-final and semi-final matches which led them to qualify for the finals, while Spain's field is the same. However, Spain definitely performed better than England in the final match, attacking as well as counter-attacking which is why they got success against England. With all the players England have in their squad, it is certainly possible to beat the best teams in the world.

What's your point? England had an easier path and they went through it worse. But we can make an assessment from the other side: before the start of the tournament, England was the main favorite (rated slightly better than France), Spain was rated 3 times worse. If I remember correctly the odds were approximately 3 and 10+. But by the finals the roles had completely changed and Spain was already the favorite and they confirmed their status. It turns out England failed, doesn't it?

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July 17, 2024, 10:59:36 PM
 #8082

They officially announced the best players during this tournament and now I guess since we are in the summer and transfer windows are open in most of the leagues, we are can see some more offers for these players they had good performances.
This can make everything hard for these teams to keep the players there.


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July 17, 2024, 11:58:42 PM
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And before the final, Spain also played more aggressively compared to England. This can be seen from the statistics below:
A good visualization of what was obvious to everyone: England reached the final only thanks to a convenient tournament bracket and luck/randomness. If you look at the quality of the game, they are somewhere in 4-7 place, no higher, it is not surprising that Southgate is leaving the post of head coach of the national team. He would have been forgiven if England had won the title with a dismal performance, but when there is no performance or result, you have to take responsibility.
Yes, this may be unpleasant, but the fact is that Spain is above England in almost everything. That's why, when the live final took place, we could see that Spain's possession of the ball was very good and even dominating. Their mentality is really strong, not only offensive, but their defense is also very strong. The Spanish players were on fire, really on fire at that time, so their motivation increased drastically, matched by their ability as individuals and as a team when competing, which was extraordinary. Spain really deserves to be the winner.

Yes, it is very natural for Southgate to resign as the main football manager/coach of England, if not, then he will become the subject of criticism because he is considered not really optimal. Yes, even though he certainly has done the best, however, he will not escape England's failure to become champion. But, whatever it is, thanks to him that brought England to the final.


Source: Gareth Southgate
The decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because

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July 18, 2024, 10:39:00 AM
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Southgate has officially stepped down from his position as England coach.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c978e37ld7ro

I believe this is great news for England, however... It depends on who they are going to bring next. If they don't find a better replacement then this means nothings to them.  Sad

Southgate was feeling the high pressure over himself during Euro 2024. As I was giving this action by him a possibility, I can't say I'm surprised to hear it. I'm afraid he has hever been suitable for this team. England can start lifting trophies finally if they find a good coach.
It is not surprising that Southgate resigned from coaching the England national team. The reason is, he has also coached the England national team for quite a long time, namely since 2016. Apart from that, while coaching the England national team, Southgate also had great difficulty presenting trophies for the England national team. Even in two editions of the Euro, including the current edition, as we know, Southgate failed to present a single trophy for the England national team. So it was natural that he chose to resign, because he felt he was not suitable to be England national team coach. Maybe Southgate is having a little difficulty in managing the players that the England national team currently has. Because as we know, currently the majority of players from England are star players. Maybe because of this, Southgate cannot control the players in the England national team more freely. And because of that, the England national team's performance was less than optimal and their chemistry was not well formed.

So for now the England national team must be able to find a coach who has excellent leadership attitudes. Because that way England's star players can definitely be managed well. Currently, it seems that there are several potential coaches who will be rumored to replace Southgate in the England coaching chair. The coaches are Lee Carsley and Eddie Howe.

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July 18, 2024, 11:03:54 AM
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They officially announced the best players during this tournament and now I guess since we are in the summer and transfer windows are open in most of the leagues, we are can see some more offers for these players they had good performances.
This can make everything hard for these teams to keep the players there.



Talking about the offers for some of these players, we know many of the players on that list would get something higher when it comes to the demand for their services, like Arsenal linking up to Nico Williams and his price value won't be as same as when the tournament was still young and now I think it would be much higher, but can Arsenal even try to get this players? I don't know about the other players but Nico is the only one I've seen that both Arsenal and Chelsea are going for and the player don't have it in mind to play for Barcelona, so would it be a positive addition to the Arsenal side if he eventually joins the Gunners coupled with the players they have?🤔
To make money some of these clubs won't have a rethink on letting some of these players go, like the likes of Saliba of Arsenal, I still think MADRID would do everything humanly possible to get him on their side and I feel it would be a bad choice if Arteta to let him join the Spanish power house Madrid.











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July 18, 2024, 01:27:22 PM
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Maybe apart from Kyle Walker, I agree on the best line-up for Euro 2024. The reason is that the RB position that deserves it more is Dani Carvajal. We know that the right side of the Spanish defense is always safe with its impressive performance. Not only at club level, Dani Carvajal can still make a big contribution to his country until the final.

Apart from that, I am very happy to see Spain's generation of golden wingers consisting of Lamine Yamal and Nico Williams because these two players often cook up the opponent's defense, especially in yesterday's final match against England. On the other hand, Cucurella, who usually performed poorly with Chelsea, when playing for Spain surprised everyone with his performance. Even his crucial interceptions often saved Spain from dangerous attacks from opponents.

Both of them had a great Euros Competition. Kyle Walker made life difficult for whoever that came up on him. Gakpo? Nico Williams? Whodo you want to mention? He's 34 and be still proactive like he is 24Years old. As for Dani Carvajal, same way he performed atba top level for Real Madrid during the Champions League Competition, he did the same for Spain. He is such a good example of consistency and dedication to them youngins.

It's difficult to say who should leave or stay for me (Must have said something about this before ) Nico Williams and Lamine Yamal are great lads, don't you dare forget the name Olmo who was also instrumental during games they played, on the ball and also off the ball.

I watched Marc Cucurella as a Brighton player, then I watched him without bias and I know how good he was attacking and at the same time defending, I also know he had his first Premier League Competition goal against Manchester United. He has been utilized wrongly or he needed time to settle down. I'm certain he'll get better next season.

Akanji shouldn't have made it, I'd rather the name Rudiger.


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July 18, 2024, 01:42:16 PM
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Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany.
That was the real final.  Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card)
So England reached the final by pure luck.
That's right, Spain vs Germany is the ideal final at Euro 2024, these two teams played very well during the Euro. The players of both teams also have great talent who will present a final match full of tension and will spoil the eyes of football fans. However, this match happened faster than expected, Spain had to face a team that qualified for the final due to luck alone.

England are not the favorites to win Euro 2024 because their performance was still below expectations, the players did not have good chemistry between the lines, they had difficulty beating their opponents several times even though they finally managed to appear in the final. Spain really deserved to be champions because they had quality players and their journey to the final was not easy, they had to overcome challenges from big teams in order to appear in the final, the victory over England was very worthy because the quality of the two was very different.

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July 18, 2024, 01:46:54 PM
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You consider Germany and France to be very strong opponents for Spain, while you consider Netherlands and Switzerland as weak opponents for England. Find out more about what Netherlands has achieved in football and how strong Switzerland is in football. Germany and France were tough opponents for Spain and Switzerland and Netherlands were much tougher opponents for England. You have to accept that England performed well in the quarter-final and semi-final matches which led them to qualify for the finals, while Spain's field is the same. However, Spain definitely performed better than England in the final match, attacking as well as counter-attacking which is why they got success against England. With all the players England have in their squad, it is certainly possible to beat the best teams in the world.

What's your point? England had an easier path and they went through it worse. But we can make an assessment from the other side: before the start of the tournament, England was the main favorite (rated slightly better than France), Spain was rated 3 times worse. If I remember correctly the odds were approximately 3 and 10+. But by the finals the roles had completely changed and Spain was already the favorite and they confirmed their status. It turns out England failed, doesn't it?
England performed much lower than expected in the tournament. Frankly, this was a disappointment for many. Of course, I expected success from Spain, but I did not expect a clear difference. They wiped out England in the final and won the championship with their dominant game. Absolutely the entire team deserves recognition. Spain showed again that it is one of the greatest teams in Europe and the world.

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July 18, 2024, 01:59:23 PM
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Yes, it's true, maybe England wouldn't have been able to get to the final if they had met Germany or Spain earlier. But their luck was indeed quite impressive. and it was the second final in a row in which England had finished runners up for two consecutive Euros. And maybe in the next Euro Competition England could again be able to advance to the final. and if that happens then it is quite surprising. But they have never won a European title even though they have always had great players in their squad. And when England made it to the final again, I thought that England would win the European title for the first time. but apparently that didn't happen. And the best team like Spain still gets it because Spain was the team that deserved it from the start. Because the way they play is always not boring.

Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany.
That was the real final.  Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card)
So England reached the final by pure luck.
Whether luck or not , it was recorded that they reached the finals and they would have even caused some kind of upset too if only they didn't go back and relax after scoring that equalizer because the goal made them relax and Spain was tirelessly working in the Frontline with the likes of William and yamal running down defenders on a steady.
Yea, that is what they think is the best for them after equalizing the goal, they wanted to defend the goal to penalty shootout and they forgot that Spain don't win with penalties but within 90 minutes which make me see England as weak because they didn't go to the field to grab the cup but they were hoping to be lucky again.

However reaching the finals is a big achievement for them because they played the best team in the finals which most people knew that England will not win Spain in the finals. So I will say that they reached their highest point in the tournament.

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July 18, 2024, 02:21:21 PM
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Yea, that is what they think is the best for them after equalizing the goal, they wanted to defend the goal to penalty shootout and they forgot that Spain don't win with penalties but within 90 minutes which make me see England as weak because they didn't go to the field to grab the cup but they were hoping to be lucky again.
Dragging the match to penalty shootout would have actually been the best option for England. Initially I was thinking they will fall back to the defense and never allowed Spain to score even a single goal, then use counter attack whenever they get the ball. But it seems they ignored this strategy that helped Chelsea make remarkable progress in their football during the era of Drogba. Hence, they paid the ultimate price of losing the trophy to Spain who are very good at scoring and deserve the winning. Well, the final came out as expected because majority opted for Spain to win.


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July 18, 2024, 02:31:26 PM
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They officially announced the best players during this tournament and now I guess since we are in the summer and transfer windows are open in most of the leagues, we are can see some more offers for these players they had good performances.
This can make everything hard for these teams to keep the players there.



In practice it is a Spain with a few other players.  It is no coincidence that I would like to say, I have always said and bet on Spain and this has not disappointed me at all and has also led me to profits in this regard.
So in the end I was right about Spain.
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July 18, 2024, 02:34:40 PM
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And before the final, Spain also played more aggressively compared to England. This can be seen from the statistics below:
A good visualization of what was obvious to everyone: England reached the final only thanks to a convenient tournament bracket and luck/randomness. If you look at the quality of the game, they are somewhere in 4-7 place, no higher, it is not surprising that Southgate is leaving the post of head coach of the national team. He would have been forgiven if England had won the title with a dismal performance, but when there is no performance or result, you have to take responsibility.
Yes, this may be unpleasant, but the fact is that Spain is above England in almost everything. That's why, when the live final took place, we could see that Spain's possession of the ball was very good and even dominating. Their mentality is really strong, not only offensive, but their defense is also very strong. The Spanish players were on fire, really on fire at that time, so their motivation increased drastically, matched by their ability as individuals and as a team when competing, which was extraordinary. Spain really deserves to be the winner.

Yes, it is very natural for Southgate to resign as the main football manager/coach of England, if not, then he will become the subject of criticism because he is considered not really optimal. Yes, even though he certainly has done the best, however, he will not escape England's failure to become champion. But, whatever it is, thanks to him that brought England to the final.


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The decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because

Gareth Southgate has maintained the morale of the England national soccer team for eight years. Now he needs support himself. Perhaps the best way for him to recover will be a vacation on the beach, where he can quietly drink lemonade and watch from the sidelines. I think it is time for a young and promising English coach to emerge who will favor an attacking style of play.

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The decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because

The decision is all there if we want, in the end one era ends and another opens.  Sometimes even when you have won it is necessary to change for a sort of renewal.
So I would like to say, okay, thank him and move on.  This is the best way to do things.  As it was for Lippi at Juventus, except that he left as a champion (also with Italy).

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July 18, 2024, 06:21:09 PM
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A good visualization of what was obvious to everyone: England reached the final only thanks to a convenient tournament bracket and luck/randomness. If you look at the quality of the game, they are somewhere in 4-7 place, no higher, it is not surprising that Southgate is leaving the post of head coach of the national team. He would have been forgiven if England had won the title with a dismal performance, but when there is no performance or result, you have to take responsibility.
Yes, this may be unpleasant, but the fact is that Spain is above England in almost everything. That's why, when the live final took place, we could see that Spain's possession of the ball was very good and even dominating. Their mentality is really strong, not only offensive, but their defense is also very strong. The Spanish players were on fire, really on fire at that time, so their motivation increased drastically, matched by their ability as individuals and as a team when competing, which was extraordinary. Spain really deserves to be the winner.

Yes, it is very natural for Southgate to resign as the main football manager/coach of England, if not, then he will become the subject of criticism because he is considered not really optimal. Yes, even though he certainly has done the best, however, he will not escape England's failure to become champion. But, whatever it is, thanks to him that brought England to the final.


Source: Gareth Southgate
The decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because

As I understand it, the new coach will start with games in the Nations League, where England fell into League B (lol) and where it is impossible to motivate the players to play normally since it is a rubbish tournament. Quite a dangerous situation (for a new coach) because if the results are weak then he will be subject to harsh criticism as everyone is waiting for the England team to progress but not vice versa. It will be interesting to see which group England will be in to qualify for the 2026 World Cup, there may also be surprises there.

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July 18, 2024, 06:49:58 PM
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Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany.
That was the real final.  Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card)
So England reached the final by pure luck.
That was a frickin' final before the final, Spain against Germany. You know? Intensity, ability, strategies - all there was. Spain, even with a man down, showed some serious cojones. You really have to respect this. England... they made it to the final, yes. But that was a lucky run. They were like a drunk man looking for his vehicle keys, rambling about without obvious direction throughout the competition. Southgate, man, some of his decisions made sense nowhere. He has some brilliant people here, but the strategies? He seemed to be reading from a completely other playbook. Against Spain, it was just painful to watch

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July 18, 2024, 07:08:46 PM
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Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany.
That was the real final.  Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card)
So England reached the final by pure luck.
That was a frickin' final before the final, Spain against Germany. You know? Intensity, ability, strategies - all there was. Spain, even with a man down, showed some serious cojones. You really have to respect this. England... they made it to the final, yes. But that was a lucky run. They were like a drunk man looking for his vehicle keys, rambling about without obvious direction throughout the competition. Southgate, man, some of his decisions made sense nowhere. He has some brilliant people here, but the strategies? He seemed to be reading from a completely other playbook. Against Spain, it was just painful to watch
Spain didn't have a man down but it was at the last three minutes of the game. Germany match was the roughest match for Spain because the Germans were equal to the task but in every match at that stage, there must be a winner and that was how Spain was to score their last and final goal in the match.

England has good world class players but lack of good manager is the cause of why those talents are wasting without winning a trophy for long. Now that he has being fired, I believe England will win a trophy.

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July 18, 2024, 07:46:10 PM
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Southgate wasn't really "bad" if you think about it, world cup was a little bit disappointing on how they left, that's true but the level they got out was fine. On top of that they had two finals, which is good as well.

I believe that they made a mistake letting him go, but I also understand that Southgate may not want to be managing anymore after he lost two finals, that must have some toll on peoples soul and he just probably wants to relax a bit instead. I am sure that he is going to find some job, I do not assume that it is going to be a high level, not like he is going to replace Pep when he leaves City type of level, but I am sure that there must be plenty of job chances for him in all over Europe.

I however think that he will take this year off, and see about it next season, that looks alright. Mainly because he probably will want to take a little bit of vacation and relax, and secondly because it's already late July, meaning that most teams already have their managers, it is not going to be all that easy to handle anything else. He wouldn't be able to find a proper job at this point, and if he takes a year off, by next season I am sure that there will be teams knocking on his door.

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July 19, 2024, 02:35:20 PM
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Southgate wasn't really "bad" if you think about it, world cup was a little bit disappointing on how they left, that's true but the level they got out was fine. On top of that they had two finals, which is good as well.

I believe that they made a mistake letting him go, but I also understand that Southgate may not want to be managing anymore after he lost two finals, that must have some toll on peoples soul and he just probably wants to relax a bit instead.~

On average, Southgate was good (unless you take into account that England were knocked out of Group A in the Nations League, but no one cares about that tournament), two finals is a great achievement in itself. The problem is that England have been without titles for a very long time and all the fans want it to end. Even if the next coach wins silver at the 2026 World Cup, then silver at Euro 2028, I think he will be fired.

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July 19, 2024, 02:43:02 PM
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Southgate wasn't really "bad" if you think about it, world cup was a little bit disappointing on how they left, that's true but the level they got out was fine. On top of that they had two finals, which is good as well.

Southgate is still one of the good enough coaches but when talking about the coach for the England national team he is not suitable because indeed the pressure and qualifications are too high for Southgate which makes this a little more difficult, especially we know that England is superior and with the quality of players who are strong enough because it is filled by the majority of excellent young players actually Southgate is difficult and even too small to manage a national team of this size.

So it is undeniable that even though in the end they remained in the final, the performance shown by Southgate was actually ordinary and there was nothing interesting about what he did in the England squad during this Euro.

The style of play that tends to be more monotonous and the difficulty of Southgate in determining the scheme and players who compete shows that he is not able to be in England, so when Southgate voluntarily resigned I think it was a good decision for him to do in this case.
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On average, Southgate was good (unless you take into account that England were knocked out of Group A in the Nations League, but no one cares about that tournament), two finals is a great achievement in itself. The problem is that England have been without titles for a very long time and all the fans want it to end. Even if the next coach wins silver at the 2026 World Cup, then silver at Euro 2028, I think he will be fired.
Reaching two finals at the Euros is a brilliant achievement that Southgate presented to the England national team. This is not because the player material that England has is almost evenly distributed in every line, but his ability to formulate strategies has made England successful in winning runners up. It is very realistic for England to want a trophy because they have never won it so far, but in matches there is always the possibility of winning or losing.

England must try again in the next edition, but becoming champion is not an easy matter because the competition is very competitive. Southgate departure means that the England coach seat is empty. The coach appointed to be Southgate successor must be superior and able to improve England abilities in order to win the gold medal.

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