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August 08, 2023, 10:55:40 PM
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I see in last few weeks many new similar websites starting to appear for hardware wallet comparison and I still like yours the best, but athena-alpha.com is doing a good job also. Smiley
One recent correction for you, Keystone 3 Pro is now open for orders and discounted price is $90 in next several days, but I don't see Keystone 3 regular version available for purchase.

Thanks for the correction.
I knew about athena-alpha.com. Which other similar website did you find?

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August 09, 2023, 10:14:02 PM
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Thanks for the correction.
I knew about athena-alpha.com. Which other similar website did you find?
No problem. Wink
I didnt want to advertise any other websites in your topic but since you already asked... I saw one project posted recently in Project Development section, it's called crypto-hardware.com.
It has a different layout from thebitcoinhole.com website and they need to add a lot more wallets in their database, but maybe you find some inspiration there.
Healthy competition can be good.

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August 10, 2023, 06:38:05 PM
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New addition to the website: Cypherock X1: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/cypherock-x1

Cypherock X1 is a wallet that splits your private key into 5 parts using Shamir Secret Sharing. Each part is uniquely stored on the X1 vault and the 4 X1 cards. So you can distribute them into geographically different locations.
To make a transaction, you just need to fetch and tap any 1 out of the 4 cards on the X1 vault using NFC.


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August 11, 2023, 09:57:33 PM
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New addition to the website: Cypherock X1: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/cypherock-x1
Nice one Wink

One more suggestion, can you add information if code for Open Source hardware wallets can be verified and reproduced or not?
If this has been done by someone, for example bitcoinbinary.org or walletscrutiny.com, you can post a clickable link for that.
Another member has a good point that not everything that has Open Source label is really Open Source... we all remember ColdCard and Keystone was doing similar advertisement for their devices.  

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August 11, 2023, 10:12:14 PM
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One more suggestion, can you add information if code for Open Source hardware wallets can be verified and reproduced or not?
If this has been done by someone, for example bitcoinbinary.org or walletscrutiny.com, you can post a clickable link for that.
Another member has a good point that not everything that has Open Source label is really Open Source... we all remember ColdCard and Keystone was doing similar advertisement for their devices.  

I already have that. Under the firmware section, I have "Source-available", "Open Source" and "Reproducible Builds" rows.

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August 12, 2023, 09:57:58 PM
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I already have that. Under the firmware section, I have "Source-available", "Open Source" and "Reproducible Builds" rows.
I know about rows, but I was thinking about creating additional top Reproducible filter tab for fast access, like you have for Open Source, Secure Element, Air-Gapped, etc.
Ideally it would be great if I could select multiple filters at the same time, and have color changed when I click or unclick them.
I hope you understand what I wanted to say, I am a bit tired and I can't explain it better now.


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August 12, 2023, 10:03:11 PM
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I know about rows, but I was thinking about creating additional top Reproducible filter tab for fast access, like you have for Open Source, Secure Element, Air-Gapped, etc.
Ideally it would be great if I could select multiple filters at the same time, and have color changed when I click or unclick them.
I hope you understand what I wanted to say, I am a bit tired and I can't explain it better now.


Ok, I understand what you mean. I am working on adding support for filtering per each feature. So, you will be able to do that and much more.

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Added support to filter the hardware wallets by all the features.



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August 25, 2023, 11:53:46 AM
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Added support to filter the hardware wallets by all the features.
It looks good, maybe a bit crowded but search option fixes that.
I just checked all hardware wallets that can be purchased with Bitcoin or LN, and I got only 15 from 40 devices, no wonder that ledger is not accepting BTC  Tongue
Imagine someone selling devices that should keep BTC safe in storage, but you won't accept that same BTC ... it just shows how much they support Bitcoin Roll Eyes

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August 25, 2023, 04:49:44 PM
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I just checked all hardware wallets that can be purchased with Bitcoin or LN, and I got only 15 from 40 devices, no wonder that ledger is not accepting BTC  Tongue
Imagine someone selling devices that should keep BTC safe in storage, but you won't accept that same BTC ... it just shows how much they support Bitcoin Roll Eyes
You know what they say, verify don't trust. You should have checked the information you found on that site and looked on Ledger's shop yourself.

Ledger doesn't accept crypto directly, meaning from your wallet to theirs, but does accept it through payment providers like Crypto.com Pay and Bitpay. The quality of these services is another topic of discussion.
If you use crypto.com Pay, you can pay with BTC, CRO, DAI, ETH, USDC, and USDT.
If you use Bitpay, the accepted coins include BTC, BCH, DOGE, LTC, XRP, ETH, etc...

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August 26, 2023, 12:17:54 PM
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Added support to filter the hardware wallets by all the features.
Great addition, but I noticed the size & materials filters didn't have the materials and dimensions options in them... I understand why you excluded the latter, but I think it'd be better if users could also tick the materials of their choice [even if it means adding roughly 10 more options to that section].

BTW, do you have any plans to move discontinued hardware wallets to a different page [there are two at the moment]?

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August 26, 2023, 03:58:17 PM
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BTW, do you have any plans to move discontinued hardware wallets to a different page [there are two at the moment]?
Are you talking about the Keystone Essential and Pro models or some of the other hardware wallets in the collection? If you check the main list without any active filters, you will notice that these two HWs are positioned all the way to the right with a 'Discontinued' notification under their pictures. I think that's pretty clear for anyone looking at the page that they are no longer for sale.

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Are you talking about the Keystone Essential and Pro models or some of the other hardware wallets in the collection?
Yes, I was referring to these two...

  • If you check the main list without any active filters, you will notice that these two HWs are positioned all the way to the right with a 'Discontinued' notification under their pictures. I think that's pretty clear for anyone looking at the page that they are no longer for sale.
    You have a point, but OP mentioned in another thread that his/her "goal is to help users choose the correct wallet to buy" and if some of them are already discontinued, then perhaps they shouldn't be in the main list... Having said that, I noticed few of their "authorized resellers" still have them in stock, so perhaps placing another button beneath the discontinued and linking it to this exact page wouldn't be a bad idea.

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August 27, 2023, 05:46:10 PM
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Yes, the goal is to help users to decide which hardware wallet to buy. So, I decided to put them as discontinued at the end for two reasons:
- As you mentioned, some resellers could still have stock
- People with the old models will probably like to compare their devices with other wallets, to decide if upgrade or not.

In the future, I will see how to handle the increasing amount of wallets to display (including discountinued models). I will probably have to add pagination support, for example.

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August 27, 2023, 05:49:32 PM
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Great addition, but I noticed the size & materials filters didn't have the materials and dimensions options in them... I understand why you excluded the latter, but I think it'd be better if users could also tick the materials of their choice [even if it means adding roughly 10 more options to that section].

In this phase, I decided to support single-option filters and sliders, which cover more than 90% of the features to filter. I plan to add the missing filters in the future.

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Having said that, I noticed few of their "authorized resellers" still have them in stock, so perhaps placing another button beneath the discontinued and linking it to this exact page wouldn't be a bad idea.
Oh, so when you say they have been discontinued, it's like with Ledger's Nano S model. The company isn't officially selling the device. However, you can still buy it from resellers that have it in stock, and it still works and is supported with the update for the time being. I immediately associated 'discontinued' with no longer working/able to connect to servers, can't be connected with recent software, and those sort of of things.

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Hi. I created a new page on the website where I compare the most popular Bitcoin Software Wallets: https://thebitcoinhole.com/software-wallets

I also opened a new topic about that comparison: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465351

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September 02, 2023, 12:44:15 PM
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- People with the old models will probably like to compare their devices with other wallets, to decide if upgrade or not.
You have a point and as much as I hate to give more spotlight to Ledger's products, I think Ledger Nano S should also be listed at the very end [FWIW, I hate it but a lot of users still have/use it in the community].

I immediately associated 'discontinued' with no longer working/able to connect to servers, can't be connected with recent software, and those sort of of things.
It's my bad [I should've explained it in a better way] Smiley

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Under the "Privacy" category, you can add "Coinjoin" to the Trezor Model T and Trezor One: https://content.trezor.io/coinjoin

Coinjoins allow you to combine your UTXOs with other users into a giant transaction, making it no longer possible to determine which inputs created any output: https://mempool.space/tx/d465033214fd2309dcce5a90c45fcaa788aa4394ee36debe07aad8d8a37907d2

You can use Bitcoin privately without giving up custody: https://mempool.space/tx/d465033214fd2309dcce5a90c45fcaa788aa4394ee36debe07aad8d8a37907d2
^ Participate in coinjoin transactions like this with Wasabi Wallet ^
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You are right, Mr. Kruw.
Coinjoins are a good invention. One must make sure to use a respected software, though. Because a privacy tool that looks like one on the surface, but works with companies that deanonymize users and investigates the origins of their UTXOs isn't to be trusted. Don't do coinjoins with Wasabi and its default zkSNACKs coordinator because each of your UTXOs will be sent to blockchain analysis. Your privacy will be invaded to investigate if you deserve to have privacy in the first place.   

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