EU solution to energy crisis: print more money and ensure economic crisis!

[Sithara007]

Japan is another country (that is basically defined in the Western Bloc) to inject a huge amount of money into the economy to artificially keep it afloat and only postpone all the problems that they are going to face for a short time. The amount is $490 billion stimulus which was approved recently [1].
It is worth mentioning that after United States, Japan has the largest national debt of whopping $15.3 trillion and a public debt to GDP ratio of 289% [2]!

[1] https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/japan-to-okay-490-billion-in-stimulus-to-cushion-impact-of-inflation-122102800189_1.html
[2] https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

Sometimes I wonder how Japan manages to stay afloat despite this huge debt burden. And with a rapidly ageing population (~40% aged 65 and above), they are a declining economy. The last thing they wanted was an economic war with one of their primary energy suppliers. And the stupid regime just did that, by imposing sanctions against Russia. And I expect the Russians to kick them out of the joint energy development projects in Sakhalin and Yamal. Just when we thought that the Germans are the most stupid ones, the Japanese went one step ahead and did something even more stupid. Anyway, let them face the music during this winter (and for the next few winters as well).

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[pooya87]

Just when we thought that the Germans are the most stupid ones, the Japanese went one step ahead and did something even more stupid.

That is what happens when a country has little to no independence when it comes to geopolitics and national interests. Both Germany and Japan are the losers of the second World War and have been practically occupied by United States ever since. They even "shut down" any nationalist movement like Abe in Japan if they start even thinking about independence...

[electronicash]

Just when we thought that the Germans are the most stupid ones, the Japanese went one step ahead and did something even more stupid.

That is what happens when a country has little to no independence when it comes to geopolitics and national interests. Both Germany and Japan are the losers of the second World War and have been practically occupied by United States ever since. They even "shut down" any nationalist movement like Abe in Japan if they start even thinking about independence...

japan headline news was prompted a few days ago where they are also selling their bonds and USD. they know they need to trade to Asian countries like China, they can't afford not to trade. this is an isolated country.

japan however had already taken a beating, their currency is way down but like any other country printing money is the way to go to deflate debts. printing is way peaceful way than going war and EU are done with it. they seem to realize they are not wining.

[pooya87]

Energy problems are getting more serious as the temperature drops.

Case in point UK. There has already been a bunch of small power outages over the past couple of weeks specially in South and South East England like Sussex. The National Grid warning last night was the proof of this electricity shortage which they manually had to cancel to prevent panic specially after they had warned last month about the 3 hour blackouts during the coming winter this year.

Unfortunately they can't solve this problem by throwing money at it...

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/uk-world-news/national-grid-automated-blackout-warning-7854404

[DrBeer]

In order
1. No need to sow panic and try to replicate dubious "news". Yes, some people want it to be that way. It's like the hysterics of the pro-Russian media that the EU will freeze and there will be no gas. Or, as since 2014, we heard squeals that "this year, Ukraine will definitely freeze without our gas"
The EU has gas, there are reserves, there are long-term contracts in exchange for supplies from terrorist countries. Stop throwing information tantrums
2. The fact that the situation is not as simple as it was before - yes, I agree. But this is a temporary process, and it will stabilize to an acceptable level already in 2023, no matter how hard one country is a terrorist
3. Even if the EU prints money, it will remain in the EU, in the form of payments to energy, utility companies, shops and cafes, taxis and other services. The European economy will be able to digest them without giving rise to inflation.
Yes, the situation is complicated; yes, the state takes care of the citizens. This is fine.

[DrBeer]

Energy problems are getting more serious as the temperature drops.

Case in point UK. There has already been a bunch of small power outages over the past couple of weeks especially in South and South East England like Sussex. The National Grid warning last night was the proof of this electricity shortage which they manually had to cancel to prevent panic especially after they had warned last month about the 3 hour blackouts during the coming winter this year.

Unfortunately they can't solve this problem by throwing money at it...

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/uk-world-news/national-grid-automated-blackout-warning-7854404

Dear pooya87 - your feelings for Britain, Germany and other countries are so touching!

Tell me - what about the problems of heating, heating, gas supply, a normal standard of living, the degradation of the social sphere, the degradation of medicine, an increase in mortality, a drop in the level of medicine. the collapse of the economy, which has been going on for 2 decades, in your country - do you not bother at all? Or is it because of the understanding that the government of your country is generally indifferent to what is happening inside the country, and how people live, and there will be no solutions to these problems from the word "completely"? All for the fight against NATO, the fight against LGBT, the fight against freedom, the fight against independence, the fight against the rights of people, the fight against the hostility of the "Russian world" and the fight against the good life in other countries?

By the way - why not a word from you about the "amazing" budget of the Russian Federation for 2023, in which spending on social programs, medicine, education was sharply reduced, reduced on everything, and increased on terrorism and the suppression of internal protests? Or are you not interested?

[pooya87]

Tell me - what about the problems of heating, heating, gas supply, a normal standard of living, the degradation of the social sphere, the degradation of medicine, an increase in mortality, a drop in the level of medicine. the collapse of the economy, which has been going on for 2 decades, in your country - do you not bother at all?

Do you think I live in Bulgaria, Ukraine or Russia? LOL These countries have high mortality rate, drop in "level of medicine", energy and heating crisis (except Russia) and low standard of living.

Iran which is where I live is actually at the bottom of the list under all of EU and a lot of other countries. To be precise it is ranked 169 among 203 countries with Ukraine being 2^nd considering mortality rate according to UN stats found here. We also have the second largest gas supplies and first largest amount of fossil fuels in total and have no issue with energy and heating thanks to the largest network of gas pipelines and most sophisticated electrical grid in the world that reaches farthest part of the vast Iran's geography.
The only problem we have is economical (more precisely inflation) which is partly because of 6000+ sanctions against us and the cold war we've been fighting over the past 50 years and partly because of idiotic money printing policy that some presidents have chosen in the past, which is exactly why I have a lot of topics about similar idiotic money printing policies in other countries.

By the way - why not a word from you about the "amazing" budget of the Russian Federation for 2023, in which spending on social programs, medicine, education was sharply reduced, reduced on everything, and increased on terrorism and the suppression of internal protests? Or are you not interested?

Well Russian budget isn't really affecting the world and the changing of the World Order but the crisis in the West and deindustrialization of the West namely the US colonies does.
But feel free to open a new topic about Russian budget with actual data and your thoughts on its effects on the rest of the world. I'd be interested in reading that.

[DrBeer]

Do you think I live in Bulgaria, Ukraine or Russia? LOL These countries have high mortality rate, drop in "level of medicine", energy and heating crisis (except Russia) and low standard of living.

Iran which is where I live is actually at the bottom of the list under all of EU and a lot of other countries. To be precise it is ranked 169 among 203 countries with Ukraine being 2^nd considering mortality rate according to UN stats found here. We also have the second largest gas supplies and the first largest amount of fossil fuels in total and have no issue with energy and heating thanks to the largest network of gas pipelines and the most sophisticated electrical grid in the world that reaches farthest part of the vast Iran's geography .
The only problem we have is economical (more precisely inflation) which is partly because of 6000+ sanctions against us and the cold war we've been fighting over the past 50 years and partly because of idiotic money printing policy that some presidents have chosen in the past, which is exactly why I have a lot of topics about similar idiotic money printing policies in other countries.

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Well Russian budget isn't really affecting the world and the changing of the World Order but the crisis in the West and deindustrialization of the West namely the US colonies does.
But feel free to open a new topic about Russian budget with actual data and your thoughts on its effects on the rest of the world. I'd be interested in reading that.

... to be honest - I don't care where you live, what your nationality, religion, sexual orientation and skin color are. Any inhabitant of the earth can carry nonsense, regardless of the criteria listed here
I especially like you, with what zeal and rapture, being in Iran, you tell me, a citizen of Ukraine living in Ukraine, what is happening to me 

And now about your "facts"

1. Measles. Yes, there was a flash. But !
The consequence of the outbreak is not a low level of medicine! Although I can’t say that Ukraine has the best medicine, it’s not bad at all, at least Iranian citizens go to Ukraine in large groups to study as doctors, yes, yes, your citizens study with us, and not vice versa. Tell me - where are the values, experience and practice better? But back to measles. One of the key reasons for this outbreak in 2019 is a consequence of the anti-vaccination movement. Yes, in the west of Ukraine, there was such a movement, and this is not a problem of 2019, it started earlier. The Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) acted as a special bearer of this ideology. It was they who became the "locomotive" of this murderous movement and began to drive into the heads of parishioners from about 2014. Yes, this is a known fact, you can find references.
But let's not forget about the indicators of "high mortality" from measles!
Note: In 2019, 72 people died of measles in Europe, 16 of them in Ukraine. It's a lot ?
We read the excerpt from the WHO "Measles death rates worldwide increased by 50% between 2016 and 2019, and in 2019 this disease claimed more than 207,500 lives." Worldwide. 207,500 against a total of 31 people in Ukraine (for this period). Will you tell something else about the low level of medicine in Ukraine?
PS The Iranian authorities acknowledged the death during the protests of more than 200 people. This is 9 times higher than the death rate from measles in Ukraine over 4 years...

2. Now to the mortality rates. It is very convenient to take out of context or a couple of numbers and wave them around. But it won't work
The mortality rate in Ukraine is certainly not the lowest. But there are nuances here. If you look at the official statistics of the UN. Then we will notice that:
until 2014 - the death rate was approximately 13.4, then after 2014 - it began to rise sharply. I hope you know what happened in 2014, and what are the real reasons for the increase in mortality?
Since 2015, the modernization of medicine in Ukraine has begun, which has already given a noticeable result....

3. "energy and heating crisis (except Russia)" - look how you, a resident of Iran, surprisingly positively single out Russia, which you seem to have nothing to do with! Anyway, let's go back again .. yes, yes - to the facts

Schools where children sit in warm outerwear during lessons, hospitals where patients are covered with mattresses for heating, the highest mortality from carbon monoxide, the eternal collection of firewood throughout the country for pensioners and the needy, fires due to home-made heaters and stalagmites from frozen feces poured into windows - these are picture from ordinary Russia of the 21st century! And for many years now! Perhaps you have only seen Moscow? Then I recommend driving 50 km from Moscow - you will learn a lot of new things

PS The fact that Iran is more developed than Russia is what I know. Because Russia is begging drones and missiles from Iran to kill civilians in Ukraine .. By the way, this blood is on your country too ...

[pooya87]

3. "energy and heating crisis (except Russia)" - look how you, a resident of Iran, surprisingly positively single out Russia,

I didn't positively single out Russia, I excluded a country that has a lot of energy and doesn't need to import them compared to lots of others that do not have any energy of their own and have to buy it from elsewhere. In comparison the second group are facing a crisis (France is the latest European country that experienced blackout).

PS The fact that Iran is more developed than Russia is what I know. Because Russia is begging drones and missiles from Iran to kill civilians in Ukraine .. By the way, this blood is on your country too ...

I've already debunked the claims about Iranian drones or missiles being used by Russia at least twice on this forum.

If you want to see blood on one's hand you need not look far. Look to your country in the 80's and how you guys were supporting Saddam, the Iraq's dictator who was bombing Iranian cities with chemical weapons. The 300,000 Iranians martyrs should be a source of shame for Ukraine.
Don't even get me started on the bloodshed by the armed forces of Ukraine in Iraq and Afghanistan and some other countries.

[DrBeer]

Japan is another country (that is basically defined in the Western Bloc) to inject a huge amount of money into the economy to artificially keep it afloat and only postpone all the problems that they are going to face for a short time. The amount is $490 billion stimulus which was approved recently [1].
It is worth mentioning that after United States, Japan has the largest national debt of whopping $15.3 trillion and a public debt to GDP ratio of 289% [2]!

[1] https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/japan-to-okay-490-billion-in-stimulus-to-cushion-impact-of-inflation-122102800189_1.html
[2] https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

Sometimes I wonder how Japan manages to stay afloat despite this huge debt burden. And with a rapidly aging population (~40% aged 65 and above), they are a declining economy. The last thing they wanted was an economic war with one of their primary energy suppliers. And the stupid regime just did that, by imposing sanctions against Russia. And I expect the Russians to kick them out of the joint energy development projects in Sakhalin and Yamal. Just when we thought that the Germans are the most stupid ones, the Japanese went one step ahead and did something even more stupid. Anyway, let them face the music during this winter (and for the next few winters as well).

Look at the level and quality of life in the Kuriles (Japanese territories temporarily annexed by Russia in 1945), and the life of Japan. I think after that, your conscience, if you have one, will squeeze your throat so that you don't say such nonsense
You talk about debt, but don't talk about economics, efficiency, technology. You are trying to compare a huge territory where, as they say, almost 40% of the natural resources of the earth, with actually stone islands where there is almost nothing. But it is the Russians who are running to buy Japanese cars, equipment, brands, and not vice versa. Compare the average life expectancy in "Great Russia" and "indebted Japan".
Japan: 11.1 per 1,000 (2020) The annual population decline is 0.191% (2009), approximately 250 thousand people. Average life expectancy - 81.5 years for men, 87.7 years for women
Russia: In 2019, the death rate was 12.3 per thousand people, and in 2020 this figure was 14.5 per thousand people. For 2022, information about real mortality rates was generally classified ... probably tends to 0 Average life expectancy is 65.5 years for men, 67.2 years for women. Higher and uptrend

And explain - how is it possible?

[DrBeer]

3. "energy and heating crisis (except Russia)" - look how you, a resident of Iran, surprisingly positively single out Russia,

I didn't positively single out Russia, I excluded a country that has a lot of energy and doesn't need to import them compared to lots of others that do not have any energy of their own and have to buy it from elsewhere. In comparison the second group are facing a crisis (France is the latest European country that experienced blackout).

PS The fact that Iran is more developed than Russia is what I know. Because Russia is begging drones and missiles from Iran to kill civilians in Ukraine .. By the way, this blood is on your country too ...

I've already debunked the claims about Iranian drones or missiles being used by Russia at least twice on this forum.

If you want to see blood on one's hand you need not look far. Look to your country in the 80's and how you guys were supporting Saddam, the Iraq's dictator who was bombing Iranian cities with chemical weapons. The 300,000 Iranians martyrs should be a source of shame for Ukraine.
Don't even get me started on the bloodshed by the armed forces of Ukraine in Iraq and Afghanistan and some other countries.

"I excluded a country that has a lot of energy and does not need to import them compared to many others" - yeah, i.e. you don’t know that there are a lot of reserves, but 60% of households are not gasified, many do not have central heating, huge territories suffer from low temperatures every winter, and, accordingly, people? This is the reality of Russia. Of course, they don’t need to import anything - after all, you don’t need to take care of the population anyway


"I have debunked at least twice in this forum allegations of Russian use of Iranian drones or missiles." - you did not debunk the myth, you tried to "whitewash" Iran from the crime it is committing. The problem is that I personally attended the "reverse engineering" of the supposedly Russian "Geran-2" UAV, which, for a surprising reason, is the "Shahed 136" device with the inscription "Geran-2" And tell me - what did the Iranian military consultants do during temporarily occupied Crimea, near the launch containers for "Shahed 136"?
And another question - it turns out that the head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry is a perky liar? Once officially recognized the supply of drones to Russia, but the truth denies the supply of missiles. I won’t say anything about missiles - I didn’t see the remnants of downed Iranian missiles, I won’t insist. And I saw “mopeds” (as we call Shahed 136, because of its specific noticeable sound) with my own eyes, including the insides, markings and inscriptions inside the drone ... I didn’t think that in Russia they write in Persian ))

"If you want to see blood on your hand, you don't have to look far. Look at your country in the 80s and how you guys supported Saddam, the Iraqi dictator who bombed Iranian cities with chemical weapons. 300,000 Iranian martyrs should be a disgrace to Ukraine.
Don't even get me started on the bloodshed of the Ukrainian armed forces in Iraq and Afghanistan and some other countries."

You decide - did we support Saddam or destroy his militants so that he would not bomb Iran? But I will say right away - we did not supply Iraq with UAVs or weapons so that it would kill Iranian civilians in Peaceful cities, unlike Iran, which arms terrorist Russia!

I know exactly what contingent of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was in Iraq, and what tasks they were engaged in. Please write your "knowledge" about the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Iraq, and I will write what they actually did there

[pooya87]

And tell me - what did the Iranian military consultants do during temporarily occupied Crimea, near the launch containers for "Shahed 136"?

Every military in the world has someone on the ground in Ukraine studying this war and gathering intelligence about the tactics and technology that is being used between NATO and Russia. They all work anonymously and without being recognized.
But if you want to claim something like this you have to provide actual proof rather than "a Ukraine official said so".

FYI Shahed-136 is remotely launched, there is no need for someone to be standing beside the launcher! That's usually a pilot sitting in a secured bunker in a far away location. That's basic Drone Warfare.
When you want to lie, you should at least get your basic facts straight.

And I saw “mopeds” (as we call Shahed 136, because of its specific noticeable sound) with my own eyes, including the insides, markings and inscriptions inside the drone ... I didn’t think that in Russia they write in Persian

It's funny that to this day I've seen hundreds of videos and images of these drones in the skies and some from their remains after they've hit their targets. Yet not a single one of them contained any text on them in Farsi.

For your information the actual writings such as serial numbers, etc. inside and outside actual Iranian made drones are in English.
English is used because it makes it easier for exports to about 25 countries that are currently officially buying these drones. This is also why their names are changed too. For example our Bavar-373 air defense is being sold as AD-100 (stands for Air Defense) to make it easier for target countries to understand and pronounce them.

You decide - did we support Saddam or destroy his militants so that he would not bomb Iran?

What you did was to give him your full support from September 22, 1980 to August 20, 1988. Ukraine specifically was sending him wide-body aircraft so that he could move his troops around easier among other things.
When he was defeated by Iranians and his usefulness ran out the tables turned and then you guys started sanctioning Iraq while hitting its military bases, airfields, etc. while disarming them. Finally invaded Iraq after about 15 years in 2003.

I know exactly what contingent of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was in Iraq, and what tasks they were engaged in. Please write your "knowledge" about the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Iraq, and I will write what they actually did there

I already know what you think they did there, you think the women and children that the armed forces of Ukraine raped and killed in Iraq were part of a peace keeping mission.

I won’t say anything about missiles - I didn’t see the remnants of downed Iranian missiles, I won’t insist

You know what, I think we should actually sell Russia drones and missiles. For real and officially and publicly and at a very large scale (tens of thousands).

We are already being accused of something we never did and they have even sanctioned Iran for this lie, so we might as well do it for real and make some money out of it. We already know Russians are desperate for our superior weapons specially our missiles that have pinpoint accuracy and can not be shot down by any existing ABM. Ask the US troops who were in Al-Asad airbase on 8 January 2020 for firsthand information.

But know that you guys forced Iran into selling these weapons to Russia.

[DrBeer]

"FYI Shahed-136 is remotely launched, there is no need for someone to be standing beside the launcher! That's usually a sitting pilot in a secured bunker in a far away location. That's basic Drone Warfare.
When you want to lie, you should at least get your basic facts straight."
- did I say that they stood and launched a "moped" from their knees? You understood me wrong. You probably know that in the temporarily occupied Crimea, a group of both Russian and Iranian terrorists, in uniform, was destroyed. On the Iranian side, there were specialists in working with UAVs who trained and advised the backward Russian "brothers in terrorism." But now they are all together in hell, deservedly

"It's funny that to this day I've seen hundreds of videos and images of these drones in the skies and some from their remains after they've hit their targets. Yet not a single one of them contained any text on them in Farsi.
For your information the actual writings such as serial numbers, etc. inside and outside actual Iranian made drones are in English. Cheesy
English is used because it makes it easier for exports to about 25 countries that are currently officially buying these drones. This is also why their names are changed too. For example our Bavar-373 air defense is being sold as AD-100 (stands for Air Defense) to make it easier for target countries to understand and pronounce them."

- To be honest, I was waiting for this answer!
I explain...
To begin with, the inscriptions are not ON the UAV, but INSIDE on the components. From the outside, the Russian terrorists, in order to give themselves "technological greatness", which is of course fake, put the inscription "GERANI" on it

And here's the most important thing! You correctly noted that Iran exports UAVs. Officially. Of course, markings and other things inside such models are in the international language, English. Everything is logical, and here you are right! Do you feel where your puncture is? Not ?
And now the main thing is that the models that go for EXPORT are somewhat different in performance characteristics from those that are in service with the Iranian army! You can ask your military, who work with this type of weapon, this. But for domestic consumption - on the part of the nodes, marking using the state language! Moreover, the local version is not adapted to low temperatures. You didn't know this? That is why Russian terrorists, with the beginning of winter, until this week had problems with massive strikes by Iranian UAVs on civilians in Ukraine. Why ? Because they, UAVs, behave a little "not standardly" at low temperatures. And only now, Russian terrorists, perhaps with the help of your specialists, have managed to correct this local Iranian model for the current weather conditions.

Later I will show you photos with your UAVs, where there are markings in Persian.
Well, once again the question is - the head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry, it turns out, according to your statements, is a windbag?

"What you did was to give him your full support from September 22, 1980 to August 20, 1988. Ukraine specifically was sending him wide-body aircraft so that he could move his troops around easier among other things."
- Tell me, are you mentally healthy? I worry! No offense ! 1980-1988, the supply of weapons to Iraq was carried out by ... the USSR! And the Central Defense Industry Directorate was located in the Kremlin. At that time, the Ukrainian SSR was part of the USSR, but did not have the right to independently trade anything with the whole world. Study the story first, and then try to come up with an excuse or accusation )))

I will add: most of the weapons of Iraq, which killed the inhabitants of Iran, who supplied Iraq? I answer the USSR / Russia!

"I already know what you think they did there, you think the women and children that the armed forces of Ukraine raped and killed in Iraq were part of a peace keeping mission."
- and here please give the facts and evidence. Evidence. Or are you just a primitive liar...

"You know what, I think we should actually sell Russia drones and missiles. For real and officially and publicly and at a very large scale (tens of thousands)."
- well, here the inside of the terrorist country came out He invented and lied a bunch of historical fakes, and now he uses them as an excuse to support his "terrorist brothers" from the Kremlin ...

I never wished evil to the people of Iran, I sympathize with what is happening now. And I wish them to be freed from today's shackles.
 
But I see that in the souls of some representatives of this ancient country that gave the world a lot, there are those in whom primitive malice and terrorism live ... Time will judge us!

And for crimes and complicity in crimes, the perpetrators will still be punished!

[pooya87]

You keep digging a deeper hole with increasingly hostile language...

And now the main thing is that the models that go for EXPORT are somewhat different in performance characteristics from those that are in service with the Iranian army!

That only works for complex equipments such as an air defense battery, a radar or a fighter jet (eg. F35) not for a ridiculously simple drone that has a single purpose such these drones. If anything is changed about these, they become a different product entirely. For example a shorter range and faster speed would be Toofan 2 which looks very similar to Shahed-136, a bigger warhead faster speed and different control makes it Saeghe 1 & 2, lighter faster and smaller versions are Ababil family.

You can ask your military, who work with this type of weapon

You should ask your military about it
But be careful who you ask though, (according to the Syrian Al-Watan news citing military officials) a lot of those fighting in Ukrainian army these days are Takfiri terrorists from Syria who were promised land. They think of you as an infidel and would cut your head off because that would help them go to heaven!

Moreover, the local version is not adapted to low temperatures. You didn't know this?

The Ukrainian officials made this claim a while ago so how could I not have heard it
This is actually another proof that Iran is not involved in this at all otherwise they would have given our other drone versions that are designed to work in very low temperatures that parts of Iran experience specially close to borders where these drones have to operate and provide security. Temps such as -46°C.

Later I will show you photos with your UAVs, where there are markings in Persian.

Looking forward to that.

the Ukrainian SSR was part of the USSR,

That washes all the crimes committed by Ukraine LOL.
What about Afghanistan and Iraq? Maybe Ukraine is still part of USSR and that bloodshed in middle east was also USSR fault

Reading your posts on how you deny all the crimes that Ukraine has committed over the years in dozens of countries from cooperation with Nazis during WWII to supplying Iraq's dictator Saddam all the way to sending the third largest number of terrorists to Iraq to murder people.
Specially with your support of the apartheid regime killing children in Palestine and your direct contact with those terrorists, you are starting to change my mind that maybe Russia was right about wanting to denazify Ukraine!

[MusaPk]

You keep digging a deeper hole with increasingly hostile language...

That washes all the crimes committed by Ukraine LOL.
What about Afghanistan and Iraq? Maybe Ukraine is still part of USSR and that bloodshed in middle east was also USSR fault

Reading your posts on how you deny all the crimes that Ukraine has committed over the years in dozens of countries from cooperation with Nazis during WWII to supplying Iraq's dictator Saddam all the way to sending the third largest number of terrorists to Iraq to murder people.
Specially with your support of the apartheid regime killing children in Palestine and your direct contact with those terrorists, you are starting to change my mind that maybe Russia was right about wanting to denazify Ukraine!

There is no official figure of how many people are killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in the name of war for bringing democracy and ending terrorism. Its so shameful for humanity that there was no voice for people of Afghanistan and Iraq from western side since those war were serving there purpose.
While anything going wrong in China, Russia or Iran is highlighted by western media alot. Just because these counties are not in good relationship with EU and USA. This is nothing but just hypocrisy.

[DrBeer]

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The classical school of Russian journalism - the facts aside, the main thing is to pour on the opponent and repeat your fakes in order to at least somehow weaken the opponent's position.  It's not difficult for me to answer your new, unsuccessful attempts to get out of the situation to the second one, you pushed yourself and now you are not comfortable ! Let's start

"This only works for sophisticated equipment like an air defense battery, radar or fighter jet (like the F35), not for a ridiculously simple single target drone like these drones." - no, Shahed-136, it's not a primitive UAV , with hand-launched. This is a whole complex. The drone itself has a weight of up to 200 kg, it is launched from the launch platform. It has 2 guidance and trajectory control systems - using GPS for targeting, and a trajectory retention system for sections where electronic warfare is working, or there is other interference (it just flies in a straight line, waiting for a signal to appear). The system is unilateral, without adjustment. The case is made of a composite, though it's not plastic, but something like a pressed paper base impregnated with epoxy resin or something similar. The launch is made from launchers in which several dozen UAVs can be located at once. Plus, they are launched at the same target along different routes, and Russian martinets are trying to track their passage. That is why we do not publish the license plates of your UAVs, so that it is impossible to find out which route turned out to be "effective" ... So this is not the easiest product. So, inside the downed "mopeds", 70-80% of the units actually have mostly English-language markings (well, at least because Iran cannot produce this, and buys many components in other countries according to "black" schemes). But the assembly, testing and quality control is clearly local, which gives out part of the marking "You should ask your military about this." - this is how I work with them, which is why I have access to the remains of downed or captured equipment, and personally I participate in the "opening" and reverse engineering of these devices. We already know a lot about them!

"In fact, this is another proof that Iran is not at all involved in this, otherwise they would have provided our other versions of the drones, which are designed to operate at very low temperatures" and decided to continue to "turn on the fool" ... But that's your business, we know for sure what Iran supplies! Regarding other models - excellent - you confirmed that there are "high-temperature" and "low-temperature" modifications, which was what was required to be proved And the fact that Iran delivered the wrong models to miserable Russia - so what's wrong with deceiving Russia? Terrorists can be deceived! For this alone, it shows the quality of the "friendship" of Iran and Russia

"Looking forward to it." - do not worry, I will not deceive, I will definitely publish - I'm not the Russian media! And I will also be there, just pixelate a little

"Ukrainian SSR was part of the USSR, This launders all the crimes committed by Ukraine, lol."
You really need to talk to a psychiatrist or historian Once again, for those who do not understand English well: the Ukrainian SSR is part of the republics of the USSR that did not have the right to do anything on their own, to conduct foreign economic relations. Planning, and subsequent and control of the sale of weapons for Iran, which then, with its help, killed your citizens, is the work of the Kremlin gang, which centrally controlled everything in the USSR. Maybe in the form of drawings, how to draw an explanation for children? You tell me - it's not difficult for me!  And now it turns out that you are helping those who helped your enemies to kill your citizens! You are just "well done"!

"Reading your posts about how you deny all the crimes that Ukraine" - unlike you, I even recognize the crimes that my father, while serving in the USSR Armed Forces, committed in Afghanistan. I feel great guilt for this, and it disgusts me that my father was involved in this ... And I will condemn any crimes, because for me there is no division into friends and foes! For me, the law is the same for everyone. But you're just trying to lie primitively, trying to get out. Despite the fact that I have repeatedly asked for at least some facts and arguments about the participation of Ukraine in such crimes, you have not provided anything other than another batch of fakes and a repetition of the previous ones. This is the behavior of a weak person - to deny their actions, deny crimes, and invent "crimes" of the other side in order to somehow reduce their guilt. But by doing this you only show your true soul ....

"Thanks to your support for the apartheid regime that kills children in Palestine" - The APARTHEID regime that kills children in PALESTINE?
I will teach you for free :
"Apartheid is the official policy of racial segregation carried out by the National Party that ruled the Union of South Africa and the Republic of South Africa from 1948 to 1994." I am waiting for your clarifications on where we cooperate with them and how we kill children in Palestine?!
Seriously, no offense - good psychiatrist, it's not expensive !

[pooya87]

Out of the loop and back to topic at hand.
European countries are getting deeper in debt as the energy crisis worsens. For example Germany is going to set a record high debt of $539 billion according to bloomberg [1]. This is more than pandemic debt and even more than the 2008 financial crisis debt with all the bailouts and everything!


The other problem that is piling on everything is the NATO weapons storages getting empty. Multiple officials already expressed concerns. On one hand they have to build more weapons and equipment than their capacity allows to fill the gap, on another hand they have to donate more than they can manufacture while US keeps pressuring them to spend billions they don't have to build more (NATO budget is to be increased by 25%).

[1] https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/germany-to-issue-record-539-billion-in-federal-debt-next-year-1.1859093

[RealMalatesta]

It is true that money printing doesn't really help with economy, but if you truly believe that you should not work with Russia and also go with Clean energy at the same time for better world in the future, you have to go through some terrible times. That is the problem, like when my nation was first freed and founded, we had to go through horrible times, our parents and so forth all lived through hell, it was disgusting conditions, and there are even some who live like that now, but thanks to those horrible times, the future was better and we are living better.

If EU wants clean world, they have to live through hell a bit, and their "hell" is our best citizens, even the unemployed person in Germany lives a better life than most people here.

[pooya87]

According to Bruegel, a Brussels based think-tank devoted to policy research on economic issues, the estimated cost on Europe for facing this energy crisis has been roughly $1 trillion so far (part of it is money printing and future inflation).
This is on top of all the industries they shut down to reduce the aid the government has to pay to try and reduce that cost and it still is massive.

The energy shortage is still a serious threat too. So far with the industries shutting down it has helped by massively decreasing the consumption (50 billion cubic meters) but the threat is still there since EU doesn't have enough supply or suppliers ("a potential gap of 27 billion cubic meters in 2023"). For example Germany’s network regulator stated in December that "not enough gas is being saved and two of five indicators, including consumption levels, have become critical."
Europe still heavily depends on Russian gas. The smaller amount they directly receive from Russia through Ukrainian pipelines that are being shelled every day and can be cut off at any moment to the LNG they buy from Russia and from Russia through China(!) at higher price that could be cut off too, either by Russians not wanting to sell it or by Chinese using Covid as an excuse to not sell it or if they simply decrease their export levels.
The other risk Europe faces is if other countries start importing more gas creating supply shortage for EU, like Japan that is currently working on a massive "strategic reserve" and plans to increase their LNG imports even more than it currently is.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-18/europe-s-1-trillion-energy-bill-only-marks-start-of-the-crisis
https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2022/12/beating-the-european-energy-crisis-Zettelmeyer

[My ThuiHa]

Print more money? ? ? It can only be said that inflation is starting to explode a little bit.
The European Union’s energy is indeed a bit difficult because of this winter. The high electricity bills will also force the chemical and mechanical industries in Europe that consume a lot of electricity to shut down and stop production. Germany’s export orders have dropped significantly due to the shortage of electricity. Some miners have abandoned the site to work elsewhere.