The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits

[Wakate]

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

Hmm, this sounds interesting and we'll know the necessary things we need to do to get merits. Once you keep writing good posts, you will surely keep getting merits because you worth it. Our major objectives is to contribute to the growth and give help to us that lack knowledge.
 If we keep doing this, we shall be surprised of the merits that will be coming our way but that should not be and major reason of making contributions and helping the community grow.

[Finestream]

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

No pressure for people who's not aftering something in return for posting some contents here, If they rush things because they want to earn on signature campaign then for sure they will be pressured for how hard to get those merits from other forum users.

But if they enjoy this place and do what you said like helping each other to learn or be learn some information's about some interesting things for sure they forget about the pressure to rank up here.

If they will forget about earning merits and just enjoy the forum through shared information and discussing with each other, maybe good merits will just easily follow. After all, the main purpose why we enter the forum is to understand bitcoin better and the rest of the crypto market coins. If you think you hit your target and still earned no merits, then maybe you should strive hard more not only for the merits alone, but most importantly for learning growth within yourself.

[Kasabus]

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

I think that is more important to the forum, to learn from others, and others will also learn from you. It will be a good interaction learning activity where one could benefit from the others, and vice versa. And earning and saving some merits should only be next important to that. Otherwise, it’s hard to earn merits when you also fail in your role in the forum, that is becoming a better version of you because you are now well equipped with knowledge and skills, and that you can also be a good source for others to learn from you.

[libert19]

I have observed in myself, whenever I posted solely for merits, those post didn't fare well, meanwhile the posts made because I wanted to post - meaning I had something to say — they did well.

[Obari]

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group

You can't have an extra income from posting in every other online forum. You can't call the administrator an asshole without punishment in every other online forum. Every other online forum doesn't have sixty million written messages in its board. Bitcointalk is different. It has character.

I still don't find the title very relevant.

I think the only thing they can do is spam around the gambling block and not get those post deleted, but you cannot spam and not get your post deleted, you cannot plagarised and get your account banned, you can not stop others from saying what they feel and expression of there self. Bitcointalk is far more different I agree with you about it. And how many does art contest almost every year
Far better, life long friendship can also be maintained online on a privacy scale also.

@harapan @blackhatcoiner we're all in this together,
Basically I'm a fresher over here and trying my possible best to always go with the flow and I truly appreciate your contributions. Thanks
But my post was intended for my fellow fresher members like myself who find it difficult to write and also communicate via writing.
I've seen so many old accounts still at the newbie rank and member rank and I've read some post of accounts getting banned as well, I've also read how people complain about ranking and most times, we don't intentionally do that.
I've heard of the word plagiarism but never saw it in play not until I joined this forum
The truth be told, it takes real patience and determination to read through and assimilate what was read in the rules and regulations and most times we still have good contents without merits and this also can discourage a user.
The forum is unique but the pressures from my fellow fresher members isn't needed and that's what I'm preaching as what is basically needed in the forum is just to share your personal thoughts in every topic you have an idea on.

[lovesmayfamilis]

There are so many thematic forums. Everyone has their own direction, and the purpose of any forum is to discuss topics. Yes, the forum pays for posts, and this is why many who come here are tempted to quickly join the wave of privileges that the forum has, and this is why we see such topics. But the OP is not the first and not the last to create his own “guide” to exist on the forum. I'm sure he'll realize very soon that he's only annoying users by creating threads like this. Many are familiar with the purpose of creating such topics.
But as for the topic, other forums also have ranks and have their own privileges for higher ranks, but maybe there is no monetization. But in some forums there is access to information “not for everyone,” using which you can also get financial benefits.
I think the purpose is communication first and everything else is nice, and I agree with the OP that the forum should be used for its intended purpose.

[Findingnemo]

At some point it actually add pressure to anyone who lacks numbers in their merit column even though if they're not really interested in any financial benefits like signature campaign,etc still its been like a symbol of contribution so one with more may resembles as highly knowl so which makes the members who are just wanted to contribute in their own way may change their posting habits to get some more.

[Adbitco]

I have observed in myself, whenever I posted solely for merits, those post didn't fare well, meanwhile the posts made because I wanted to post - meaning I had something to say — they did well.

I think the best to do is just living a free life here because whenever one trying to impress others for them to earn merits ending up not even gaining any but whenever you posted naturally without having the mind this post would generates merits could be the one to fetch you the merits. And from @OP I can't really compare this forum to be others, because this forum is far more educative and so far has all necessary information and documents that has to do with bitcoin and every other related cryptocurrency the have been existing today. So whenever one tends to overlook or underestimate this forum its get me worried somehow make me angry but not taking into mind.

[xSkylarx]

I have observed in myself, whenever I posted solely for merits, those post didn't fare well, meanwhile the posts made because I wanted to post - meaning I had something to say — they did well.

I think the best to do is just living a free life here because whenever one trying to impress others for them to earn merits ending up not even gaining any but whenever you posted naturally without having the mind this post would generates merits could be the one to fetch you the merits. And from @OP I can't really compare this forum to be others, because this forum is far more educative and so far has all necessary information and documents that has to do with bitcoin and every other related cryptocurrency the have been existing today. So whenever one tends to overlook or underestimate this forum its get me worried somehow make me angry but not taking into mind.

Yeah, I just noticed that, mostly, when I really want to earn a merit, I will plan out my post and it will take me 30 minutes to an hour to construct my thoughts, but I end up getting hurt because no one will give me merit. I already made a couple of posts like that, but they still lack merit. Agree that let's just stay where we are and construct your replies like what you are so that we do not end up expecting something that we will not receive.

[GiftedMAN]

Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

OP, this is one unique thing about the forum here unlike other forums that I have had several experiences with, you get fast response to useful questions and a quick solution to the problems of any member here regardless of the rank of the member. I wouldn't say much about meriting a post because I see merit-giving as something that one really doesn't need to worry about all you need is to make useful contributions and provide useful information leading to solutions to other members' challenges and trust me you will not find it difficult to be merited but again I will say this to you, focus on getting knowledge if it is your reason of being here once you are knowledgeable other rewards will follow.

[Peanutswar]

Some of the newbies hard to get notice because they are doing the everyday things. If you have unique skills that could be shared here in the community and also knowledge, most likely with the technicalities, there's a possibility higher that they will notify you immediately. If you think your content is deserved merit, we have some threads created by other members who are giving values to the unmerited quality post. I came from a newbie, and upon keeping learning here in the community and contributing all of my knowledge and skills, I got some merits as rewards.

[DdmrDdmr]

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Multiple factors come into play here (content, novelty, expressivity, board, relevance, topic, etc.). The thing is though, one should not get frustrated or feel let down for not getting merited, but rather assume that, for the most, it’s going to be much more likelier not getting merited than the opposite.

Take my profile for example, created a few weeks before the Merit System was set in motion. If I make a rough contrast of all my posts (10.978) vs the number of distinct merited posts I’ve got (2.974), my unmerited post ratio is 72,9%. Event for people who do get merited, one will still encounter that the unmerited posts ratio is high, regardless of the time/thought they’ve put into it.

[Daniel91]

Merits on this forum have become like some kind of holy grail, almost all new members are looking for them and begging to get them as if it is something that someone's life depends on. 
It seems to me that the fun has disappeared in this forum and almost every new member is looking for bounty campaigns or merits.
I think new members should relax a bit, get to know the forum community, join interesting discussions, share their knowledge and experience and have fun along the way, after all, this is an online forum where you can meet people from all over the world.
If you don't know what to write about, read other people's posts, read articles on the Internet and soon you will know enough to contribute to this forum.
Merits? You will get them naturally, based on your work and investment, you don't have to worry about it at all.

[Mpamaegbu]

Nobody is pressuring anyone to earn merits.

In the real sense of it, only users pressure themselves to earn merit and it's because they want to rank up so they can get better reward with campaigns. What the forum pressures users on is how to make constructive posts devoid of spam. So, for the fact that it takes two to tango users have to be (seemingly) constructive to earn. I used "seemingly" and that's not loosely because I'm of the opinion that awarding merit on posts is subjective to whoever is sending it. It's not necessarily because those posts are constructive.

[Viscore]

Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

Even without merits people should actually do these things. The only difference is that merits become an important parameter for signature campaign which users tend to farm or pressure themselve just to be able to do campaign that incentivized posting thru btc payment. I hope all doing their needed to do here without merits.

With or without merits, we should always stick to our goal and to the forum’s goal, and that is to create good contribution in the forum which will make the forum more alive and will always be a source of valid ideas and information that will bring a lot of benefits to all forum members. Otherwise, if we only care about the merits, then we might fail in the real purpose of the forum itself.

[KingsDen]

...I'm sure he'll realize very soon that he's only annoying users by creating threads like this...

Whenever I see a post of yours advising new users or telling them that they will realise soon how annoying their posts are to some old members, I'll feel you are indirectly referring to me
I was one of the newbies who were doing the right thing but always got bashed by you, while doing the right thing. Not until I got to certain rank and understood that what I thought was the very best was actually not good enough for others.
It was then I realised the importance of activity count.
A real newbie might have good crypto knowledge and within a short time will gather upto 500 merits, but if their activity isn't upto 250, there are surely many things they don't know about the forum.

[libert19]

I have observed in myself, whenever I posted solely for merits, those post didn't fare well, meanwhile the posts made because I wanted to post - meaning I had something to say — they did well.

I think the best to do is just living a free life here because whenever one trying to impress others for them to earn merits ending up not even gaining any but whenever you posted naturally without having the mind this post would generates merits could be the one to fetch you the merits. And from @OP I can't really compare this forum to be others, because this forum is far more educative and so far has all necessary information and documents that has to do with bitcoin and every other related cryptocurrency the have been existing today. So whenever one tends to overlook or underestimate this forum its get me worried somehow make me angry but not taking into mind.

Yeah, I just noticed that, mostly, when I really want to earn a merit, I will plan out my post and it will take me 30 minutes to an hour to construct my thoughts, but I end up getting hurt because no one will give me merit. I already made a couple of posts like that, but they still lack merit. Agree that let's just stay where we are and construct your replies like what you are so that we do not end up expecting something that we will not receive.

Also, if you don't put much effort in first place you don't have much to be disappointed about (if you don't get merits)

[Issa56]

Nobody is pressuring anyone to earn merits. Merit does come when the post is good and reasonable. When you are focusing only on merits that's when it will be like the forum is unfair to you to rank up. Just be yourself in the forum and post when you have something good to say or ask.

Some people just focus on merit alone, they are desperate to get merit which at the end they always go against the forum rules by plagiarizing and they will get ban, if you are posting just because you want to make positive impact to the forum then am sure you won't plagiarize, because I see no reason why you will copy a post from somewhere and you won't add source link, you want forum members to think the post is written by you.
Most people always create new posts just to receive merit but have seen lot's of people receiving merits from comments they make on the forum, just make sure you making meaningful contributions to the forum and you will definitely receive merits, don't be desperate to rank up.

[Luzin]

With or without merits, we should always stick to our goal and to the forum’s goal, and that is to create good contribution in the forum which will make the forum more alive and will always be a source of valid ideas and information that will bring a lot of benefits to all forum members. Otherwise, if we only care about the merits, then we might fail in the real purpose of the forum itself.

So far, not many have thought about this issue. This is because their initial knowledge of bitcointalk is wrong. They just want to make money from Bitcointalk and rank up quickly to get more money. This is the problem of knowledge that we have to deal with. Because I also had wrong knowledge at the beginning, because of the orientation to money.
But after walking I realized Bitcointalk is the most complete source of knowledge regarding crypto and related ones. I even gained a lot of knowledge that might be very expensive if cashed out. Regarding Merit I think naturally it is a motive. Merit makes us quality with our posts. And it is one of the things that makes Bitcointalk grow well now.

[erep]

But after walking I realized Bitcointalk is the most complete source of knowledge regarding crypto and related ones. I even gained a lot of knowledge that might be very expensive if cashed out. Regarding Merit I think naturally it is a motive. Merit makes us quality with our posts. And it is one of the things that makes Bitcointalk grow well now.

You are right, there is a lot of important knowledge being shared based on years of experience from other people and we get it for free in this forum without limited access, so we have to go back to the main point that the forum focuses on sources of knowledge about crypto and other related things. Lots of discussion threads to avoid hype from the market and it is my opinion that they have saved a lot of traders from huge losses due to being affected by the hype. So I don't have much opinion about merit because there are many quality posts that deserve appreciation, so back to each other's opinions about how you distribute merit in each post.