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November 12, 2022, 10:00:12 PM
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For those playing the world cup fantasy game on the Fifa website, you might be familiar with this table above but using it for reference to my question, OP is this the likely breakdown of the 7 stages rounds that will be applied on the Bitcointalk world cup game?

Secondly. I looked at the entrants spreadsheet some names have the top seed against does this mean these guys won't face each other in the first round or something...it would be nice to see them knockout each other early  Tongue

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November 12, 2022, 10:29:21 PM
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For those playing the world cup fantasy game on the Fifa website, you might be familiar with this table above but using it for reference to my question, OP is this the likely breakdown of the 7 stages rounds that will be applied on the Bitcointalk world cup game?

Secondly. I looked at the entrants spreadsheet some names have the top seed against does this mean these guys won't face each other in the first round or something...it would be nice to see them knockout each other early  Tongue
We will use exactly those rounds. Our whole competition is modeled to be as close to world cup as possible with the exception of awarding points in the groups. We are not having groups as H2H but as a league to avoid using tie breakers.

Top seed means each of them will be drawn into their own group. They will not be playing each other in group stages. After groups we will have the same knockout stage as world cup. Did not check it yet, but usually it goes like A1-B2, A2-B1. It will all be much clearer when we post groups and knockout stages graphics tomorrow or the day after.

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November 13, 2022, 12:45:35 PM
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Are you high not?

I can guarantee you if that pass immediately here in Argentina the people its going to burn the Tata Martino family house.

And im 100% sure if that final happen Martino itself want to lose that one.

I explain myself, Martino is from Newells old boys the same with Messi and the same with Scaloni (actual manager of Argentina) all are from my city and i know how its the life here.

Plus also Di Maria its from here but he is from Rosario Central all they families are closely friends here, plus Lo Celso and Correa also from Rosario and fans of Rosario Central.I know this last two finally cant go to the WC, one for an injury and the other was down for convocatory, but still being part of the group.

And everyone here knows where they live.

And for final you are more high thinking of Mexico going trought round of 16, they not reach round quarter finals since 1970.

Lol yes I'm high, but I thought that instead of breaking my head trying to guess, let me pick a super major upset. Obviously I don't think this is the outcome, because personally I support Spain (but I know they won't go too far) and if you know me and my support of Barca, I also really love Messi a lot.

Brazil is the team to beat though Smiley

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November 13, 2022, 02:55:56 PM
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So fellas, the official groups look like this:





We also have 4 reserves, in the following order: Lolojones, Omikifuse, dhyani_vivek@gmail.com, bibiyasyo.
Anybody else can still join and be placed on the reserve list.

The reserve player steps in only if one of the regulars did not fulfill the requirements in round 1. After the 1st round, the competition will be locked.

After the group stage is complete, we'll create the knockouts tree. It will be in the same format as in the actual WC (meaning A1 is playing B2, H1 playing G2 etc), you can see it on the following link.

You can expect the test round with some general questions in a few days and the questions for the 1st round on Friday.

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November 13, 2022, 03:06:21 PM
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As you can see guys, first spot in every group has been reserved for seeded players, all others had same weight during the draw. This graphic has also been added  behind the OP for the reference and we will update it after every round with points.

Knockout stages will be exactly the same as in World Cup so you have that Wiki link in cryptofrka post where you can see who will play who after the groups. We will make the graphic at later date when we know who qualified but as I announced we already have the draw all the way to the final.

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November 13, 2022, 03:06:48 PM
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So fellas, the official groups look like this
Oh nice, I see that am in Group H and I don't see any big players and people I know with me.
I am getting ready for test questions coming in few days, and for official start of World Cup coming in next Sunday.

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November 13, 2022, 05:00:00 PM
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So fellas, the official groups look like this
Oh nice, I see that am in Group H and I don't see any big players and people I know with me.
I am getting ready for test questions coming in few days, and for official start of World Cup coming in next Sunday.
No big players? Your group seed is maybe the toughest one in the competition. He does not have the forum rank and presence like some other seeds but he is kicking our buts in pools on regular basis. Lucky bastard  Grin

If I had to put money on who will win the competition @vd309 would probably be my choice.

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As you can see guys, first spot in every group has been reserved for seeded players, all others had same weight during the draw. This graphic has also been added  behind the OP for the reference and we will update it after every round with points.

Knockout stages will be exactly the same as in World Cup so you have that Wiki link in cryptofrka post where you can see who will play who after the groups. We will make the graphic at later date when we know who qualified but as I announced we already have the draw all the way to the final.

I want to participate in the competition like Denmark in the year 92. I hope I get that chance. I believe I will be a champion. I wish everyone success
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November 14, 2022, 12:09:21 AM
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Hope this helps with giving a visual representation of how the bracket system will apply. Would have gone the extra mile of replacing names and the alike but unfortunately, I couldn't replace country names with how the names have been drawn in our group charts as this might bring about confusion when compared to the actual team's performance in IRL, otherwise, this is it.

OP just a quick one, since this is going to be simulating the real games does this mean Group A will have an opening match just like the Qatar - Ecuador match?


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Ohh man what a bad luck for me, against CasperBGD and Icopress, the other guy i dont recognize him, so i dont know (maybe its better than us).

Lets see how can be this. i dont have a clue how can be the questions and how can i perform so i cant comment so much in my performance.

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November 14, 2022, 01:21:05 AM
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This is so entirely different from what have been accustomed to here on the forum, and this is going to be loads of fun, just like the Serie A and La Liga exclusive free bet competition we had last season.

Too bad that Cryptofrka and Trofo can not join in to play, but looking at the structure of the competition and since the answers couldn't have been know before hand and users predictions would get posted one each match day start, I don't think that gives both of them any form of edge over others, but I understand the reason for not being allowed to join in, I just believe it would have gotten more competitive you both playing.

@Trofo, I didn't seem find an answer to the question buwaytress asked earlier, That is If a BetBuilder bet would count towards the minimal 1.5+ Odds for one match ?

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November 14, 2022, 07:19:13 AM
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Hope this helps with giving a visual representation of how the bracket system will apply. Would have gone the extra mile of replacing names and the alike but unfortunately, I couldn't replace country names with how the names have been drawn in our group charts as this might bring about confusion when compared to the actual team's performance in IRL, otherwise, this is it.

OP just a quick one, since this is going to be simulating the real games does this mean Group A will have an opening match just like the Qatar - Ecuador match?

Thanks! Yep, that's how it will look like and I'll make the graphics once we get to the knockouts. Nice job from your side as well Smiley
It will simulate the real games, but per round. It means that all the participants have to submit the answers before the 1st game, and for all of them the questions will be the same.
That means that it makes no difference whether you are placed in group A or group E - everything is the same for you.

This is so entirely different from what have been accustomed to here on the forum, and this is going to be loads of fun, just like the Serie A and La Liga exclusive free bet competition we had last season.

Too bad that Cryptofrka and Trofo can not join in to play, but looking at the structure of the competition and since the answers couldn't have been know before hand and users predictions would get posted one each match day start, I don't think that gives both of them any form of edge over others, but I understand the reason for not being allowed to join in, I just believe it would have gotten more competitive you both playing.

@Trofo, I didn't seem find an answer to the question buwaytress asked earlier, That is If a BetBuilder bet would count towards the minimal 1.5+ Odds for one match ?

We are really thrilled to do this, and if it goes well hopefully we can do it more often as well. That's why your feedback will be important.
We thought about playing, we do agree that answers can't be known but we can set the questions up so they work in our favor. That's why we decided to skip - we feel it is more fair like that.

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@Trofo, I didn't seem find an answer to the question buwaytress asked earlier, That is If a BetBuilder bet would count towards the minimal 1.5+ Odds for one match ?
We will accept betbuilders with odds above 1.5. not gonna complicate the rules too much. Every bet on every market with odds over 1.5 is ok.

We wanted to play this one really bad and commented on it many times internally but it is impossible to lead competition like this and make it absolutely impossible for us to gain some advantage. What is more important it would be very difficult to prove withot any doubt. For instance we have to have able to see what you guys post to grade it and how to prove we did not check what our rivals answered?

Maybe we could have utilised blockchain to that effect but that would mean paying transactions by every participant and then we would probably not even get 32 players.

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I just noticed the thread. Sounds fun and I would love to join. Looks like it's already filled. Place me on the reserve and let's see if I have any luck.

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November 14, 2022, 09:56:02 AM
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I recognise Mitch from my group (D) and I feel like I recognise Renampun from somewhere, but Slackovic, can someone remind me who this guy is? I want to suss up my competition first, but I think I agree Group H is the Group of Death judging from just usernames I'm familiar with.

We wanted to play this one really bad and commented on it many times internally but it is impossible to lead competition like this and make it absolutely impossible for us to gain some advantage. What is more important it would be very difficult to prove withot any doubt. For instance we have to have able to see what you guys post to grade it and how to prove we did not check what our rivals answered?

Maybe we could have utilised blockchain to that effect but that would mean paying transactions by every participant and then we would probably not even get 32 players.

Wish there was more time to help you guys do this, maybe next big competition (I guess euros?). There has to be a way, and to use a cheap blockchain (or even almost free blockchain) with timestamping -- but yeah, the only way that probably fits everyone is to have it all impartial on the side of the organisers.

Still, I hope you guys have as much fun as us.

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I recognise Mitch from my group (D) and I feel like I recognise Renampun from somewhere, but Slackovic, can someone remind me who this guy is? I want to suss up my competition first, but I think I agree Group H is the Group of Death judging from just usernames I'm familiar with.
Slackovic comes from our local section, he only recently found the will to start writing in gambling after we spent years luring him here. So be gentle with him  Grin Not so much into sports other than big competitions like WC, but other than that enormous character flow, a realy good guy  Grin

We had to have one group of death for it to be a propper competition.

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I don't quite understand how the rates will be tracked.

Just an idea... Trofo sends a google form link to 32 users in a PM (participants in turn confirm their participation by sending a screenshot of the bid, or the ID).

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Frankly, I think that we have got a very difficult draw as a team. Two members in the group is coming from the club talk quota. It is not very hard to predict that these people are at a high level about betting. dittoup is very active on Sportsbet's contests on the forum especially. He is stepping forward as a successful member. Therefore it would be a big surprise for us to qualify from the group. But we will do our best to make our supporters happy.


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I don't quite understand how the rates will be tracked.

Just an idea... Trofo sends a google form link to 32 users in a PM (participants in turn confirm their participation by sending a screenshot of the bid, or the ID).
It will be a form, linked in the world cup topic and here, you will each answer the same set of fixtures and attach a screenshot of the qualifying bet. Still working on finishing details but that is the gist of it. Test round will be active later today or tomorrow so you can give it a try and see how it looks.

Frankly, I think that we have got a very difficult draw as a team. Two members in the group is coming from the club talk quota. It is not very hard to predict that these people are at a high level about betting. dittoup is very active on Sportsbet's contests on the forum especially. He is stepping forward as a successful member. Therefore it would be a big surprise for us to qualify from the group. But we will do our best to make our supporters happy.


You forgot to add that you will give 110%, that is a staple to show how serious you are to perform Smiley

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November 14, 2022, 08:55:37 PM
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I'm satisfied with draw results. As seeded player, I won't face some big names, but I see that in other groups there is some regular participants of most pools. Jayce and Ulven play in EPL pool now, while I'm not familiar with Slissy.
Already waiting for World Cup to start and also to see how this game will work.
I see that in group stage we will have 4 games every day, probably I won't be able to watch live part of it due to work, but I hope that I won't miss predictions with my bussy schedule.

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