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November 26, 2022, 06:36:28 PM
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Usually Argentina wins against Mexico, specially when they really have to, however the question is trickier than it seems because of the possession, Mexico usually plays for possession and should have most of the possession even if they get wrecked in goals, as happened in 2010, a 3-1 win for Argentina but the Mexicans got more possession than Argentina.
I would not be surprised at all to see a solid Argentina win by 2 or 3 goals and Mexico still with more possession.

EDIT: in the 2010 game Argentina was with 51% possession despite the 3-1, I don't know why I remembered the Mexicans with more possession. However got only two corner kicks in the whole game, what makes the question even more unpredictable.

Here are the full stats for the 2010 game:

https://www.espn.com/soccer/match/_/gameId/264110
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November 26, 2022, 06:48:33 PM
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Usually Argentina wins against Mexico, specially when they really have to, however the question is trickier than it seems because of the possession, Mexico usually plays for possession and should have most of the possession even if they get wrecked in goals, as happened in 2010, a 3-1 win for Argentina but the Mexicans got more possession than Argentina.
I would not be surprised at all to see a solid Argentina win by 2 or 3 goals and Mexico still with more possession.

EDIT: in the 2010 game Argentina was with 51% possession despite the 3-1, I don't know why I remembered the Mexicans with more possession. However got only two corner kicks in the whole game, what makes the question even more unpredictable.

Here are the full stats for the 2010 game:

https://www.espn.com/soccer/match/_/gameId/264110

I think If the Answer to that question will be a yes, it will be dependent on how many goals Argentina wins buy, If Argentina are going to win the game by the -1.5 goals handicap, then I strongly believe they'll have the needed amount of corners and most of the ball possession to go with that, however if they answer is going to be No, a lot of clauses in questions will also end being a No, I guess that's why I settled for a No, I don't see Argentina winning by 2-3 goals without fulfilling every other of those requirements.

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November 26, 2022, 07:11:51 PM
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I believe Saudi Arabia's government gesture towards their victory against Argentina must have definitely influenced the players performance today, they've been the better side clearly attacking and pressing the Polish sides as they weren't the underdogs of the group before the opening match, Szczęsny with an outstanding first half performance to keep his team ahead after yet another controversial penalty was awarded in this tournament, at least this time it was with VAR's help.

I admit that KSA played very confidently today (KSA pressure on poland is very large), surely that came about because they beat Argentina in the first match. VAR made it difficult for Argentina in the match against KSA, this time KSA cannot rely on it because Poland has a different strategy.
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Saudi Arabia play today was a lot more than I expected from them (before this one, I told everyone, even Saudi Arabia attacked Argentina after they conceived goal, and we (Serbia) just continued to form bus in front of our goal against Brasil, but they are obviously good team)
but, Poland scored, Saudis missed penalty, and everything goes down the sink, points for Poland, but chance against Mexico is still there for them
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November 26, 2022, 07:35:20 PM
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I believe Saudi Arabia's government gesture towards their victory against Argentina must have definitely influenced the players performance today, they've been the better side clearly attacking and pressing the Polish sides as they weren't the underdogs of the group before the opening match, Szczęsny with an outstanding first half performance to keep his team ahead after yet another controversial penalty was awarded in this tournament, at least this time it was with VAR's help.

I admit that KSA played very confidently today (KSA pressure on poland is very large), surely that came about because they beat Argentina in the first match. VAR made it difficult for Argentina in the match against KSA, this time KSA cannot rely on it because Poland has a different strategy.
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Saudi Arabia play today was a lot more than I expected from them (before this one, I told everyone, even Saudi Arabia attacked Argentina after they conceived goal, and we (Serbia) just continued to form bus in front of our goal against Brasil, but they are obviously good team)
but, Poland scored, Saudis missed penalty, and everything goes down the sink, points for Poland, but chance against Mexico is still there for them

From what i watched Saudi Arabia played really well but just couldnt score,maybe if they scored that penalty they would have won and we would have had a completely different match. Our Serbia didnt attack Brazil and we didnt play like in the qualifications and that was the main problem for our loss,but against Cameroon we must attack.

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November 26, 2022, 09:00:05 PM
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4 corners for Argentina is tragic 🤒
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November 26, 2022, 09:08:36 PM
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That was too scary I thought i'm going to lose another point when Argentina suddenly scored their second goal around 80ish mins and was only one corner away from killing my prediction but luckily Mexico got desperate and Argentina stopped pushing during those last minutes.

4/5 points so far, now I just need the other half of my predictions to not fumble.  Tongue

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November 26, 2022, 09:42:49 PM
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That was too scary I thought i'm going to lose another point when Argentina suddenly scored their second goal around 80ish mins and was only one corner away from killing my prediction but luckily Mexico got desperate and Argentina stopped pushing during those last minutes.

4/5 points so far, now I just need the other half of my predictions to not fumble.  Tongue

That was very close. I thought I had lost, but after seeing your comment, I went back to check the match stats and discovered that they only had 4 corners in the entire game after ticking the -1.5 handicaps and most possession, so it's 4/5 for me as well, Giroud's early sub ruined my day, but it's still good. He's one goal away from becoming France's all-time leading scorer, and I see him doing so in the next game.

Argentina-Mexico was a fantastic game, with Messi always delivering when expected. He's still in good shape and doesn't appear to be ready to retire anytime soon. It was a much-needed victory, and now they have Poland to deal with. another difficult group

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November 26, 2022, 09:47:32 PM
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Lot's of discussion for Argentina questions so I guess you guys liked it. Feel free to give some feedback on questions, they are not set in stone. We want to make them interesting which I believe we accomplished, but we also want to make them in a way that your answers get a bit more of spread. It really isn't that exciting if everybody goes for the same outcome, we will have to make more effort on this part I guess.

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November 26, 2022, 10:03:50 PM
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My answers was lewandoski to score Yes and Argentina to win by 2+No but I change them Last min and both lost 5/3 so far could have been 5/5 but it is what it is
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November 26, 2022, 10:23:57 PM
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Lot's of discussion for Argentina questions so I guess you guys liked it. Feel free to give some feedback on questions, they are not set in stone. We want to make them interesting which I believe we accomplished, but we also want to make them in a way that your answers get a bit more of spread. It really isn't that exciting if everybody goes for the same outcome, we will have to make more effort on this part I guess.

The questions and options are adequate for group stage games; however, I would like to see more questions about goal scorers, goals, most corners, and MOTM awards; the questions should be more difficult, with fewer questions from the R16. Just my $0.02


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November 27, 2022, 12:41:40 AM
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Guys how are your stats doing in Superbru website after today matches?
It was good day for favorites, except maybe Australia winning against Tunisia, but Poland, France and Argentina did their job well.
Messi scored again and I think Argentina is going to come back even stronger in next match against Poland, and this match will decide first place in Group C.
My main pick for tomorrow is Croatia to win against Canada.


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Lot's of discussion for Argentina questions so I guess you guys liked it. Feel free to give some feedback on questions, they are not set in stone. We want to make them interesting which I believe we accomplished, but we also want to make them in a way that your answers get a bit more of spread. It really isn't that exciting if everybody goes for the same outcome, we will have to make more effort on this part I guess.

The questions and options are adequate for group stage games; however, I would like to see more questions about goal scorers, goals, most corners, and MOTM awards; the questions should be more difficult, with fewer questions from the R16. Just my $0.02


@igehhh suggestions make sense too, and in addition going forward, I'd suggest questions like that of Argentina but they're a lot of options 4 or 5 choices to select from, and for the Goal scorers, combinations would make sense too, like will either of two the following players score ago or an assist, then options like Messi will score and provide an assist, then options like just Goal only, Assist Only, or Both and Neither, I'm sure questions like this will likely divide the answers, then you can also use possession range will a team have, could be an underdog or favourite, the with options like Argentina will have 40-44, 45-49, 55-60, more than 60, less than 40 and finally like how long will Paredes play for, then options like; Paredes not to play, less than 20 minutes, between 20-40, between 41-56, 57-74, 75 or more but not full time, and full time.

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Lot's of discussion for Argentina questions so I guess you guys liked it. Feel free to give some feedback on questions, they are not set in stone. We want to make them interesting which I believe we accomplished, but we also want to make them in a way that your answers get a bit more of spread. It really isn't that exciting if everybody goes for the same outcome, we will have to make more effort on this part I guess.
I've been enjoying most of the questions so far and I like that we have one question for every match this round but if I could give a suggestion i'd say put more of those bet builder type of questions.

I also agree with what the others said about the difficulty increase in the questions and if possible, introduce more choices to choose from similar to sportsbet's 4-3 or if it's a yes or no question then the difficulty should be something similar to the Argentina question where it involves two or more scenarios from the match.

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Ahhh Man Lewandoski scored, I said no to that question 🤣no points for me
I know the feeling! I equally thought Lewandoski wouldn't break the curse with a goal, but we were so unfortunate thanks to some clumsy defending from Saudi Arabia after playing so well, anyway we can't win everything.

Guys how are your stats doing in Superbru website after today matches?
It was good day for favorites, except maybe Australia winning against Tunisia, but Poland, France and Argentina did their job well.
The problem that comes with favorites winning is that 90% of the players will back them and pick a point but the winning difference will be having the correct score which is too much to ask.

Messi scored again and I think Argentina is going to come back even stronger in next match against Poland, and this match will decide first place in Group C.
My main pick for tomorrow is Croatia to win against Canada.

That was one hell of a fight for team Argentina, had they not won the game against Mexico it would have been a different story, but captain Messi inspired the team to victory and survive to play another game .
 

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Meanwhile , France broke the curse yesterday! Since 98' , every team champ was eliminated in group stage but not this France squad as they seems ready to defend their title. Also , if somehow Argentina will finish 2nd place in their group ( personally I think they will still finish 1st ) they will face France in next phase.

My picks for today Grin :

Japan to score 2 goals

Belgium to win

Canada to win

Spain to score 2+ goals

Will comeback to edit later on after the day is over. Cool

EDIT 1 : Already over since first pick ...but I think 90% of the bets were screwed by Japan - Costa Rica game.

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Early final for japan since Last game against Spain, so they have to win kinda but depens if Spain win against Germany or something like that. Im not good at math 🤣 soo japan ganna win I think. But I never trust Belgium that game might be draw. And Croatia ganna win I believe, kanada plays good football but 0 finish pover I dont think kanada can score
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Yeah I do not trust Belgium today, and from what I did see of Canada will not be surprised if they win even if my monry would be on Croatia. Feel a lot better about Japan after their first game, and expect Spain yo KO Germany today.

Good luck to Cro2 boys today, depending on whether Spain take me home, I might scratch my itch on Croatia over 1.5 goals.

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How on earth you didnt start with Asomo coach Halime Come on Man
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Yeah I do not trust Belgium today, and from what I did see of Canada will not be surprised if they win even if my monry would be on Croatia. Feel a lot better about Japan after their first game, and expect Spain yo KO Germany today.
I can't believe today results, first Japan lost from Costa Rica, than Belgium lost easy from Morocco, and I hope Canada by some miracle won't manage to win against Croatia.
So far this appears to be the days of outsiders, and one good thing is that Germany has a shot to come back in big style if they win against Spain.
My bet is on Croatia today, and maybe Cro2 team is now in Qatar supporting their boys. Smiley

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I can't believe today results, first Japan lost from Costa Rica, than Belgium lost easy from Morocco, and I hope Canada by some miracle won't manage to win against Croatia.
So far this appears to be the days of outsiders, and one good thing is that Germany has a shot to come back in big style if they win against Spain.
My bet is on Croatia today, and maybe Cro2 team is now in Qatar supporting their boys. Smiley

Did you watch the game between Morocco and Belgium? Morocco fought very well and they deserved to win. Eve though my bet was on Belgium to win, I'm glad that Morocco won because they played really good.

As for the Croatia vs. Canada, I really hope that Croatia wins. If we qualify for the next round, I really hope we can manage to qualify as the first in the group because my guess is that Spain will win their group and I don't like to see Croatia play against Spain again because they kicked us out of the EURO 2020

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