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November 03, 2022, 06:08:23 PM
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They can just ban the illegal ones and let the legal one continue. Maybe those who are illegal are only using the name pogo because they think they can get away but they are wrong since they are still being busted out but that's a good news at the same time. It can mean that the officials on your country is not corrupt. Not unlike to some where they allow illegal operators in exchange for some cold cash.

This is why we never hear news like this from them. Philippines is not Las Vegas but I was surprised when you said that they are mostly depending on casino revenues. Your government should think about it before doing an action.

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November 03, 2022, 06:42:07 PM
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In my opinion, the POGO sector helps many Filipinos meet their basic needs and stimulates the economy, but having so many unlicensed offshore gambling establishments will harm the Philippines government's reputation.
This to me is a simple situation with easy solution, if the Philippine government really want to do things the right way, since they know that shutting down those gambling firms will cause a lot of citizens to loose their jobs, and this will greatly harm the economy of the entire country, then i think they should do is make it mandatory for all the POGOs to get an operational license, and also make the license procurement process easy and seamless so as to encourage all the POGO firms to get the license.

Then maybe after a set period of time, maybe like a year or a year and six months, when it is believed that all of the POGO firms should have gotten a license, they can then declare the POGO firms as legal, and then go after those that have refused to acquire the operational license.     

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November 03, 2022, 07:23:39 PM
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A gambling platform headquartered in the Philippines called Philippines Offshore Gaming Operations (POGO) provides gambling, betting, and E-casinos outside of the nation. Many POGO companies operate legally in the Philippines by submitting license applications to PAGCOR, but some people run POGO illegally, which is why many legal offshore gaming operations are branded as illegal.
For there to be illegal casinos in operation is a sign that the "Philippines Offshore Gaming Operation" (POGO) has failed in carrying out its duties or either taking bribe. Because i see no reason why some casinos should be allowed to operate illegally without license in the first place? As that's the origin how scamming gets started if prompt action is not put in place. Because just as O.P said how gambling is important to the Philippian's economy, dor me, the best plan will be to ban all illegal casinos, while only legal and licensed casinos are allowed to operate.

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November 03, 2022, 07:50:39 PM
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Philippine has made POGO legal, as they are licensed by the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR).

But the problem is, there are some POGO that runs illegally in the country, and most of them are run in secretly, but nevertheless, you will hear reports about the police raiding them and mostly they are illegal so what the authorities do is to send them back home to China.

I know that there is much that the government can do about those who are going to lose their jobs, but as some point they have to draw the line here. The economic benefits is outweight by what is going on behind the scene, killings and kidnappings and corruptions.

Even the Chinese government are totally against it, so why not the Philippine government do that as well?
True, many of them have been running illegally and they're just renting condominium units and that's why those rent prices near Pasay/MOA have increased a lot.
But since the government of us now trying to take down many of them, there's also a decrease in income for most of those establishments that are benefiting from it. It's better to be legal than to operate illegally because many of those workers are also Chinese folks that have tourist visas and are considered also illegal immigrant workers. News is all around about many of them being departed.

Yes, but as I have said, even if it raking billions to the Philippine government, still though I would say that the effect is very significant specially if people are dying because of it. They pay good rent because condos are expensive here but then again, it is still illegal by law.

And there is now a good that the Philippines is becoming one of Chinese provinces because of the proliferation of POGO and the number of Chinese that are now in the country. And for me this doesn't look good. So they should all be deported if found illegally working here.

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November 03, 2022, 07:52:20 PM
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A gambling platform headquartered in the Philippines called Philippines Offshore Gaming Operations (POGO) provides gambling, betting, and E-casinos outside of the nation. Many POGO companies operate legally in the Philippines by submitting license applications to PAGCOR, but some people run POGO illegally, which is why many legal offshore gaming operations are branded as illegal.
For there to be illegal casinos in operation is a sign that the "Philippines Offshore Gaming Operation" (POGO) has failed in carrying out its duties or either taking bribe. Because i see no reason why some casinos should be allowed to operate illegally without license in the first place? As that's the origin how scamming gets started if prompt action is not put in place. Because just as O.P said how gambling is important to the Philippian's economy, dor me, the best plan will be to ban all illegal casinos, while only legal and licensed casinos are allowed to operate.
When it comes on corruption and bribery then there's no doubt that Philippine government is really known for that which it is really safe to presume out that this might be the reason on why there are still

some illegal casinos who do continually to operate despite of such laws and prohibitions which it would be understandable those kind of probabilities but well we cant prove it out.

We know that there are indeed things which do operate legally despite of being banned or does need up license.There would be always those law violators.

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November 03, 2022, 08:08:37 PM
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why should it be declared illegal? POGO is not the problem here, it is the illegal offshore gambling operators. it always confuses me that a lot of people in the Philippines always blame POGO when illegal offshore gambling operators are found and have been operating in the country. to be honest I feel like the only reason why they keep insisting that POGO is to blame for these illegal offshore operators is because of politics.

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November 03, 2022, 08:52:20 PM
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If the government shuts down this operation, many Filipinos will lose their jobs and the Philippine economy will suffer a loss of several billion pesos.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1672432/pogos-not-linked-to-illegal-online-gaming-says-pagcor

In my opinion, the POGO sector helps many Filipinos meet their basic needs and stimulates the economy, but having so many unlicensed offshore gambling establishments will harm the Philippines government's reputation.

I believe the Philippines government are wise when they first create an organization called the PAGCOR which function is the body that provides licenses of operation to the companies that provide POGO games to the people of the Philippines but shutting the whole system down because some irresponsible POGO operators or companies chose to operate illegally is never the right decision.
What they need is to place a hard penalty on any company that's guilty of illegal operation and others will submit their license applications to PAGCOR.
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November 03, 2022, 09:52:06 PM
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A gambling platform headquartered in the Philippines called Philippines Offshore Gaming Operations (POGO) provides gambling, betting, and E-casinos outside of the nation. Many POGO companies operate legally in the Philippines by submitting license applications to PAGCOR, but some people run POGO illegally, which is why many legal offshore gaming operations are branded as illegal. If the government shuts down this operation, many Filipinos will lose their jobs and the Philippine economy will suffer a loss of several billion pesos.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1672432/pogos-not-linked-to-illegal-online-gaming-says-pagcor

In my opinion, the POGO sector helps many Filipinos meet their basic needs and stimulates the economy, but having so many unlicensed offshore gambling establishments will harm the Philippines government's reputation.
There's a pros and a cons to POGOs as all things do, as you said earlier they stimulate the economy but at the same time some profiteer off of being unlicensed which also could give them all the liberties to be unfair to their customers. In my honest opinion, until the current administration of the Philippines stand up their pimply asses and actually do something to prevent multiple crises within their territory, POGOs will continue to persist illegal or legal, as well as other problems they currently face. Judging Bongbong, he's not up for it. He loved the title but he couldn't put in the work.
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November 03, 2022, 10:56:22 PM
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Should be declared as legal with limitations IMO.

It is continuously bringing a stream of revenue to the government, it's just that its workers aren't sourced from the Philippines but rather from another country. Lots of undocumented workers from China were being deported each day but lots are still getting sent here and that's the main problem. Instead of it helping to open more jobs, it just eats up space and a lot of other things compared to what it's giving to the country.

If only things are managed and handled in this god-forsaken country that would be great.
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November 03, 2022, 11:29:12 PM
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A gambling platform headquartered in the Philippines called Philippines Offshore Gaming Operations (POGO) provides gambling, betting, and E-casinos outside of the nation. Many POGO companies operate legally in the Philippines by submitting license applications to PAGCOR, but some people run POGO illegally, which is why many legal offshore gaming operations are branded as illegal. If the government shuts down this operation, many Filipinos will lose their jobs and the Philippine economy will suffer a loss of several billion pesos.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1672432/pogos-not-linked-to-illegal-online-gaming-says-pagcor

In my opinion, the POGO sector helps many Filipinos meet their basic needs and stimulates the economy, but having so many unlicensed offshore gambling establishments will harm the Philippines government's reputation.

If nothing harm will be created to the community and it can generate additional income which can help the country then why not? Government accumulated P1.22 billion  as per the BIR so it gives big help to the country if they regulate this very well.

This one need governed bodies to avoid any abuse of other authorities or create violence. So overall of this theirs nothing really wrong to make POGO legal.

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November 03, 2022, 11:44:24 PM
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True, many of them have been running illegally and they're just renting condominium units and that's why those rent prices near Pasay/MOA have increased a lot.
But since the government of us now trying to take down many of them, there's also a decrease in income for most of those establishments that are benefiting from it. It's better to be legal than to operate illegally because many of those workers are also Chinese folks that have tourist visas and are considered also illegal immigrant workers. News is all around about many of them being departed.

Yes, but as I have said, even if it raking billions to the Philippine government, still though I would say that the effect is very significant specially if people are dying because of it. They pay good rent because condos are expensive here but then again, it is still illegal by law.

And there is now a good that the Philippines is becoming one of Chinese provinces because of the proliferation of POGO and the number of Chinese that are now in the country. And for me this doesn't look good. So they should all be deported if found illegally working here.
It's just the interpretation of many due to social media things that have been scattered with their opinions. We're still far from being that and I understand the sentiment of those that have been looking to that but they're far from being real patriotic people.
Well, the concern is also being addressed that those that are illegally operating in the country, they're being hunted and shut down because they lack documents and most of their Chinese workers are deported and it keeps coming.

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November 03, 2022, 11:48:38 PM
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Obviously, POGO is 100% legal as long as they are regulated and pass all the necessary documents to become legal.

The problem here is not the POGO itself but there are corrupt officials who give power to those illegal gambling companies to operate in the country.

That's what the authority needs to do, to crack down on those illegal gambling operations so that people will only put their money on legal ones.
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November 04, 2022, 03:45:55 AM
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Regulation is the problem.
People from the Philippines including me know how this work. The "Padrino" system. There may be gambling operators that are applying for legality but they lack connection with the high authorities and that is why they are forced to just do it illegally.
The other thing that hinders them to be legal is those who are against it, especially in the sector of gambling prevention or the elites that are trying to topple the government just because they agreed with making it legal.

As long as the Philippines will benefit from them, I think there's no harm in making them legal, besides, it doesn't really hit the poor in a substantial number (because we have our own ways to gamble, i.e. card games), their customers are mostly the rich so let them drain their money.

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November 04, 2022, 04:12:36 AM
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A gambling platform headquartered in the Philippines called Philippines Offshore Gaming Operations (POGO) provides gambling, betting, and E-casinos outside of the nation. Many POGO companies operate legally in the Philippines by submitting license applications to PAGCOR, but some people run POGO illegally, which is why many legal offshore gaming operations are branded as illegal. If the government shuts down this operation, many Filipinos will lose their jobs and the Philippine economy will suffer a loss of several billion pesos.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1672432/pogos-not-linked-to-illegal-online-gaming-says-pagcor

In my opinion, the POGO sector helps many Filipinos meet their basic needs and stimulates the economy, but having so many unlicensed offshore gambling establishments will harm the Philippines government's reputation.
I thought you said POGO is already legal? How can they declare POGO legal if they are already legal? Or are you saying they are unregulated and they should be regulated and made fully legal?  Also little confused over here, how do they run POGO illegally if the main purpose of POGO is to, according to you, operate outside the nation legally? You seem to have mixed up something here.

Also banning won't fix anything. Those who operate those casinos illegally won't be affected by the ban at all. They will still continue with their operation. Only those who are trying to operate their casino legally will be affected by the ban. Instead of causing damage to the whole industry, better to hunt those down who run illegally, make them pay hefty fines and if they wish to continue, operate legally with a license.

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November 04, 2022, 08:38:52 AM
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There are a lot of good things about POGO, like the taxes they are paying and the money they spent staying here they bring dollars and it contributed to stabilizing the government's economy, but for something that is a good source of money is also a source of corruption, a lot of airport personnel are found guilty of human trafficking because they let undocumented Chinese to get in without proper documents by bribing airport officials, the lack of regulation and monitoring caused a lot of kidnapping, human trafficking, and corruption, the government only need one agency to monitor and stop these bad activities, something that the government cannot come out with up to now.

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