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November 04, 2022, 11:45:25 PM
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It's a huge IF. Those people will always have the option to not pay and still use the features of Twitter as is, they just won't have that blue badge displayed beside their name. We already saw a lot of verified users that are against this. They might just be another cheapskate or they just don't like the idea that a capitalist owner wanted to charge them for just a blue check mark. Whatever happens, I doubt Elon can easily recoup the sale in 1 year, and besides not all profit would even go to him anyway

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November 04, 2022, 11:55:17 PM
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It's a huge IF. Those people will always have the option to not pay and still use the features of Twitter as is, they just won't have that blue badge displayed beside their name. We already saw a lot of verified users that are against this. They might just be another cheapskate or they just don't like the idea that a capitalist owner wanted to charge them for just a blue check mark. Whatever happens, I doubt Elon can easily recoup the sale in 1 year, and besides not all profit would even go to him anyway
Someone who could create a platform providing similar service by the time will make more people move towards it. He's a businessman and he does it accordingly. Nothing to point him as wrong. The blue tick is just the indication of verified user. If the users doesn't pay, the blue tick gets removed and there is no other service removed from the respective user account, which is good. In the long term surely this too could change.

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November 05, 2022, 01:33:14 AM
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Elon Musk's policy has received mixed reactions regarding on twitter. His announcement of $8 per month amortization for the blue check mark will tell what the future holds for Twitter. Meanwhile, the Binance CEO said 90 percent of the work will not be implemented at this point. So we have to wait what Elon musk done for it.
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November 05, 2022, 01:42:32 AM
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I feel Elon musk was too fast in effecting the change on Twitter. Several persons are not happy about this development. He should focus on earning from other discreet sources while waiting for the appropriate time to bring the monetization scheme. It's obvious that social media is a game of numbers and he needs all the numbers he can get to keep Twitter competitive.
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November 05, 2022, 06:35:16 AM
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Twitter's mMAUs (monthly Monetizable Active Users) stands at 450 million. If they pay $8 per month, that gives Elon $3.6B per month. It will take 13 months to make $44B - the purchase price QED. Elon Musk is a genius.
Not everyone will be willing to pay the $8 (trust me, all those blue tick people are capable of paying monthly, but they just won't because they can't stand Elon Musk and hates him just because everyone is hating him), so your calculations are off I guess. Would take more than 13 months. They got to pay to the bills too! So two or more years unless Twitter actually does get more profitable by attracting more users. Since they are going to relaunch vine and also likely to reward content creators, more users might actually join the platform increasing the revenue from ads and sponsorships.

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November 05, 2022, 06:52:00 AM
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Twitter's mMAUs (monthly Monetizable Active Users) stands at 450 million. If they pay $8 per month, that gives Elon $3.6B per month. It will take 13 months to make $44B - the purchase price QED. Elon Musk is a genius.
Earlier yesterday, I saw this figure on the number of Verified users, but it wasn't at 1 million. The number is in the range of 450k, not 450 million. The Guardian reports that there are 450k verified accounts on Twitter, which is 1% of all Twitter users ( https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/31/elon-musk-charges-twitter-users-verified-accounts-vine ). He used the whole week to explain the reason for the payment with $4 million loss daily. Even though he is trying to make money through the app, he might not be able to make all of it in a year or two

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November 05, 2022, 07:21:23 AM
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$8 VIP treatment. Hmmm.
But we cannot say that everyone will subscribe. I mean, a lot of social media users love Facebook because they are not paying anything for clips and posts of their favorite streamers.
There's a chance some of them will be switching to another social media platform to avoid this kind of payment or they might as well just do the normal usage even if it's bombarded with advertisements.
That calculation might not happen after all.

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November 05, 2022, 07:28:59 AM
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Twitter's mMAUs (monthly Monetizable Active Users) stands at 450 million. If they pay $8 per month, that gives Elon $3.6B per month. It will take 13 months to make $44B - the purchase price QED. Elon Musk is a genius.
The whole idea to pay few bucks to get "verified badge" in your profile is really stupid. I think I have seen quite few Youtube videos that said this idea is beyond garbage. Although there is one point that is really promising if they done it right which is "the creators could get revenue in twitter", if the buyers could make return for this then it's okay. But the whole benefit of paying this is not worth it compared to other social media.

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November 05, 2022, 09:08:40 AM
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That's if everybody pays, and they won't. However, if just 10% of them paid, then that would be 122.2 months to make $44 billion, granted the subscriber base stays steady, and that's still not too bad, given how much they make in advertising & other revenue. The real number will be closer to 1-5% I'm willing to bet.

We know that there is no possibility of all of them paying but that only 10% of them will pay from your guess will not likely also be possible. The percentage of those who will pay will be more than what you are speculating. I think around 50% will pay because the charge of $8 monthly is not much. Twitter is a very active platform for businesses to generate adverts and get traffic. Those who need Twitter and are serious about using it will not see the amount as too big

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November 05, 2022, 07:51:27 PM
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If Elon weren't genius then why will he buy Twitter at all? But regarding the blue tick, most likely he followed Telegram. Because recently telegram implement premium package where you can use emojis as you want. It would be blue tick as well. He bought twitter to make money, not to lost money. So definitely he will make a profitable company. But we are curious to see if he accept crypto for blue tick and which crypto accept. It would be a good Crypto adaption. But I am not sure about regulations allow it anyway.
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November 05, 2022, 10:37:52 PM
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Twitter's mMAUs (monthly Monetizable Active Users) stands at 450 million. If they pay $8 per month, that gives Elon $3.6B per month. It will take 13 months to make $44B - the purchase price QED. Elon Musk is a genius.

I don't know what he's planning, but it looks like he started the fee idea despite everyone's objections. I don't know how many people will agree to pay for this service but I know TW is a favorite social network for a lot of people even though people often complain that there are too many annoying bots on it. He is an extremely intelligent person, he is not a decision maker without careful calculation and now let's wait and see how people react to it.

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I don't know what he's planning, but it looks like he started the fee idea despite everyone's objections. I don't know how many people will agree to pay for this service but I know TW is a favorite social network for a lot of people even though people often complain that there are too many annoying bots on it. He is an extremely intelligent person, he is not a decision maker without careful calculation and now let's wait and see how people react to it.
Asides the authenticity of an account that verification provide, what other benefits does it provide? In the long run, this will lead to the loss of so many accounts. In the end, it won't be about the money, but about the benefit and unending payment. It would have been better to have an outright payment and a yearly price than a monthly one. There are other ways to earn money than this, especially through advertisements. He has not shown intelligence with this decision.

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November 06, 2022, 11:29:43 PM
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The policy can be in the form of coercion to subscribe behind that there are several advantages or benefits that users can get who subscribe or have a blue tick on Twitter.  very useful for content creators.  As for me, I don't mind because I'm not one of them.  $8 maybe they don't mind, maybe in the future Elon will accept payments with dogecoin
Agreed, this isn't beneficial for everyone. Most of the content creators will be benefiting out of the blue tick added to the user list. All of the sudden $8 for the service that's been used for a long need to be considered.

Few weeks back Twitch restricted the live streaming of gambling related contents. Following is the development of Kick which is being used for live streaming. It wasn't that good and crashing, but it'll grow as an alternate. Having an alternate to Twitter will stop Elon Musk from providing these kind of payment for services offered.

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I told my crypto friend about Elon Musk's plan. He knew creating a new social media app to compete the top dogs of Facebook, Instagram, Twitter would take millions of dolls and time, so he decided why not buy one of the top dogs? And he's gonna turn it into a serious cash cow
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November 07, 2022, 07:04:33 AM
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I'm actually down for improvements with the blue mark he wants, maybe a premium like Discord nitro, but having everyone just pay to get the blue mark might run contrary to what it really should be. Maybe only allow the current blue mark to stay, but make another level above which needs payment and has all the implementations they could ever want (animated pfp, banners, fewer ads, basically whatever Elon wants to add plus some good cosmetic-ish stuff) if he really wanted that payment mechanic.

Right now though I don't think a lot of people are supporting him, it's not a matter of how much is being asked but rather the reason why it's being asked in the first place.

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November 07, 2022, 01:12:12 PM
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Twitter's mMAUs (monthly Monetizable Active Users) stands at 450 million. If they pay $8 per month, that gives Elon $3.6B per month. It will take 13 months to make $44B - the purchase price QED. Elon Musk is a genius.

The biggest question is will you, I'm living in a third-world country and I only have Twitter to check the latest news and current events, $8 is big money to me I prefer to buy groceries with it, than stay verified and there are millions like me, those who will stay verified are celebrities and Elon supporter, he can still make a profit but not what you projected that he will make in 13 months, it's far from it.
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That's assuming all Twitter accounts pay a fee of $8 per month, but if only a small part pays, Elon won't make much money, although it's still extra income for Elon. I'm not sure many people will agree and pay that monthly fee, and maybe they'll move on to other social media that doesn't have to pay any fees. Yes, Elon is a genius, but unfortunately, he uses his genius for his own benefit.

Hopefully, not many will pay the monthly fee, so Elon doesn't get a lot of extra income Grin

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I don't know what he's planning, but it looks like he started the fee idea despite everyone's objections. I don't know how many people will agree to pay for this service but I know TW is a favorite social network for a lot of people even though people often complain that there are too many annoying bots on it. He is an extremely intelligent person, he is not a decision maker without careful calculation and now let's wait and see how people react to it.

"Priority ranking" on that picture sounds like that non-paying users will be filtered out from feeds. Basically it's going to be making twitter commenting impossible if you don't pay. You can comment but no-one will see that. Which is the same thing.

I can't believe how quickly he messed this service up. First he kicked essential staff, then advertisers left, then this. I am already looking for alternatives. Too bad i had a cool account in twitter. I am starting to check analytics of my tweets to confirm if amount of  "impressions" drop, because seems like it like it's already in effect. I need few days to confirm that.

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He is a genius. He wouldn't be one of the world's wealthiest men if he weren't one. It may be a year or more, depending on the number of people who would pay, but holding Twitter is already a feat that would lead to a better investment opportunity in the future. He could make it even more valuable and beneficial to everyone and recover his investment faster.

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November 07, 2022, 08:34:49 PM
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I'm actually down for improvements with the blue mark he wants, maybe a premium like Discord nitro, but having everyone just pay to get the blue mark might run contrary to what it really should be. Maybe only allow the current blue mark to stay, but make another level above which needs payment and has all the implementations they could ever want (animated pfp, banners, fewer ads, basically whatever Elon wants to add plus some good cosmetic-ish stuff) if he really wanted that payment mechanic.

Right now though I don't think a lot of people are supporting him, it's not a matter of how much is being asked but rather the reason why it's being asked in the first place.
I think the "noise" that was made about the 8 bucks is not the real reason why there is a bit of a controversy about the new path they are taking. It’s about the fact that anyone could do it. If you are willing to pay 8 bucks and get it, then what’s going to be the difference between a famous celebrity and a regular person? Both would have the blue tick.

Now that may sound great to you because you may get it just like a celeb, but at the same time it means a scammer could also get it, or if someone is willing to pay 80k dollars a month, they could have an army of 10 thousand blue ticks at the same time. That blue tick meant something as in someone who is known, not some random person who may even be a bot.

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