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May 08, 2022, 03:12:42 PM
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 I have always hated the "ignorance is bliss" expression because people take it too literally. It's a loose expression, not serious conjecture about the nature of life. I am close friends with a seasoned psychologist and once upon a time, was also briefly studying psychology. I have spent a lot of time thinking about precisely this subject and expression. Here are my thoughts.

I grew up in a dirt poor family in a poor town. Trust me, ignorance is not bliss. If you've ever been around truly ignorant people, you would know this by heart. Maybe, you just haven't witnessed the animalistic suffering of truly oblivious people. Let me tell you, it's endless and leads to no where. Even the average person lives a rather boring and meaningless life, without ever knowing the thrill of being intellectually and financially empowered. The truth is, "knowledge is power" trumps "ignorance is bliss" every damn time, EVERY DAMN TIME! I have personally experienced this. I got into crypto early on ( I made this account in Jan 2015 ) and now, I am doing very well for myself. I can do just about anything these days and it's beautiful. I've never been happier with my family. It's all because I spent the last nine years or so studying economics, geopolitics, and blockchain tech. Again, knowledge is F'ing power!

I am in total agreement with Jordan Peterson on this subject. In short, this notion that "intellectuals are often depressed" is misunderstood nonsense, it's what psuedo-intellectuals tell themselves to justify their depressive garbage and to convince themselves that they're super smart. It's also an avoidance technique. I would know, I use to believe that type of garbage but that's when I was a freaking teenager, not a grown ass man. What may I ask is intelligent about meaningless suffering? What's intelligent about getting into your own head and solving none of your problems? What's intelligent about having a counter-productive mindset, a hopeless mindset? What's intelligent about getting lost in philosophical / psychological traps while your life erodes in objective reality? What's intelligent about being a passive player in an active world? NOTHING! TRULY intelligent people solve their damn problems, empower themselves through knowledge and keep their house clean, as Jordan Peterson would say. This has been true for thousands of years. I mean, would you have rather been a surf or a Medici type of person?

Anyway, as someone that's spent a lot of damn time reading into geopolitics and society, I think people are being overly dramatic and biased about the current state of global affairs. The reality is, China and Russia are probably about to get smoked via economic / unrestricted warfare because they keep playing with fire. This is similar to when people where all doom and gloom about the U.S. vs. Soviet Russia but what happened? Soviet Russia collapsed and the U.S. economy went on a F'ing tear. Why do government and military officials act like it's such a dire situation? It's to avoid complacency. The reality is, the U.S. is so much more powerful than people realize. Just look at how quickly they assembled Western powers to wage economic warfare against Russia. This war isn't not going well for Russia, even if they do manage to take over Ukraine. China's economy is already in a vulnerable position but now, they're going to have to get weighed down by helping Russia, too? Yeah, it's not looking good for either of them, whereas the U.S. will likely quickly recovery after this institutional shift. The reality is, we are in for a bumpy road but most likely, Western nations will come out on top yet again.

P.S. Congratulations. You managed to get a LONG time lurker to post something. That's how strongly I feel about this subject. XD Anyway, back to lurking for another couple years.
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May 08, 2022, 04:20:20 PM
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Ignorance is a bliss as long as you are not getting affected and as long as you are not losing because of it. Else ignorance is a curse, which destroy not only individuals but families, states, countries and even civilization. All ignorant societies in history are dead. So be mindful we awake and be blissful
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June 02, 2022, 12:37:49 AM
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Ignorance is not bliss and has never been. In one way or the other the thing you are ignorant off have effect on you, if you are ignorant of the world economy for instance, that does not mean it does not have effect on you because you are either buying or consuming something so if the price of goods increases it has effect and if it decrease you are affected.

Even the Bible said it, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. As long as you are a part of any system, the things happening around that system affects you, so you should try to be part of the system and know what exactly the future of the system holds.
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October 18, 2022, 12:36:11 AM
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Actually worrying excessively should not be, because, it will only cause negative feelings over time. Happiness that people feel, may be different. But the happiness that I feel is the happiness of a healthy body, peaceful mind, and being together with family. Of course sometimes a lot of money also becomes happy. But not everything can be bought by money.

If there is a stupid person who knows nothing about anything, maybe in his mind all he can think of is being happy and free. Well sometimes ignorance can make us happy. But I don't know, I don't know. It depends on one's mindset.
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November 05, 2022, 09:58:08 AM
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Ignorance is bliss is merely used as an expression when knowing too much or too many sad and hurtful things can effect your state of mind than it is said that's its better to remain ignorant . Ignorance is not used as to remain unaware of your surroundings, circumstances or current affairs. You should know about all the happening going on around you and you should live like a vigilant and alert person to keep you safe and updated . When you are aware of everything you realize and know about alot of things that's happening.

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November 05, 2022, 12:35:34 PM
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No it is not, imagine every time you ignore things around you feeling unconcern about everything that is happening in your environment, your happiness might end up in a sorrowful way. You need to know about everything happening in you environment and also add effort to make sure things are fine. When you are ignorance of things, you will mislead yourself thinking you are on the right track.

There is a woman that don't care about what is happening in her environment because she wants to keep to herself to stay away from problem. One day she was passing by the street, her daughter was knocked down by a car unknowingly to her, a man stopped her to tell her about her daughter's accident but she ignored the man. Later in the evening when she hasn't seen her daughter, she was looking everywhere and asking questions if anyone saw her but they all ignored her. It was the police that came to inform her that her daughter died two hours ago in the hospital. We should not be ignorant of what is happening in our society because that change can start from you.

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November 05, 2022, 12:59:03 PM
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A very simple question.

Should I, as a citizen, be concerned about what's happening to the world? I know I don't feel right when I ignore society's problems as I might have my rights infringed. But, I look around some of my people who're ignorant and they seem happy. Is this constant concern beneficial, after all?
If the world becomes bad around you, and you ignore and continue to act unconcerned, it will become a concern to you someday when you now get affected. Although knowledge of something can suffocate happiness, but it is better to be conscious and know what is coming than act unconcerned and still get affected. The bliss that ignorance gives is a façade. Knowledge remains power.

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November 05, 2022, 02:04:39 PM
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A very simple question.

Should I, as a citizen, be concerned about what's happening to the world? I know I don't feel right when I ignore society's problems as I might have my rights infringed. But, I look around some of my people who're ignorant and they seem happy. Is this constant concern beneficial, after all?

Information is key is this regard, it's always a good thing to get informed about every progressive development or happenings around you, but we should not be moved or controlled by the situations around to the extent of making life uneasy for us to live in, many has out the whole pressure of this world on themselves as if they will achieve everything and things must just conform to their dictate forgetting that death is the end of it all, some people were less informed and does not bother because they were well contempted with their life, as long as man is not the major causes to the current challenges we faces each day in life then i think we all havebthe freedom to livebthe kind of life we want not even minding about others ahead of us, the world is made a riot zone because everyone wants to get to the top and in doing this there's much of competition, once we are contempted with the way we live, the whole problem is brought to an end in love.

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