Croatian League - Hrvatska nogometna liga

[Daniel91]

I'm surprised that no one is commenting on the shocking defeat of Dinamo against Sibenik yesterday.
It's obvious that all the problems in the club are reflected in Dinamo players as well, some have decided to go to other clubs like Orsic and Ademi and others seem to have lost focus on football due to all the events in the club.
Cacic, coach of Dinamo, is actually lucky that his competitor Hajduk is in an even bigger crisis and that the championship title with Dinamo is almost certain for him, and maybe the Croatian Cup as well.
We still don't know what will happen in the end and who will take over the club.

[slackovic]

I'm surprised that no one is commenting on the shocking defeat of Dinamo against Sibenik yesterday.
It's obvious that all the problems in the club are reflected in Dinamo players as well, some have decided to go to other clubs like Orsic and Ademi and others seem to have lost focus on football due to all the events in the club.
Cacic, coach of Dinamo, is actually lucky that his competitor Hajduk is in an even bigger crisis and that the championship title with Dinamo is almost certain for him, and maybe the Croatian Cup as well.
We still don't know what will happen in the end and who will take over the club.

I completely forgot to comment on yesterday's result. It's not a catastrophe for Dinamo, but I'm sure fans didn't like losing to Šibenik which is fighting to stay in the first league. I think the biggest problem for Dinamo is that Ademoi, who was their captain for a long time, left to play in China. Losing a captain often reflects in team performance. I'm still pretty sure that Dinamo will win the championship and probably the cup. But what will happen in the European games in August/September?

[JooBra]

How is internal stuff at Dinamo? I heard they have some problems with president and situation around him? Mamic is big boss but does he still have everything under control?

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[Slow death]

I'm surprised that no one is commenting on the shocking defeat of Dinamo against Sibenik yesterday.
It's obvious that all the problems in the club are reflected in Dinamo players as well, some have decided to go to other clubs like Orsic and Ademi and others seem to have lost focus on football due to all the events in the club.
Cacic, coach of Dinamo, is actually lucky that his competitor Hajduk is in an even bigger crisis and that the championship title with Dinamo is almost certain for him, and maybe the Croatian Cup as well.
We still don't know what will happen in the end and who will take over the club.

I consider this defeat something normal, the dynamo was already coming from a sequence of many victories, any team when it comes from a sequence of many victories, then there is a tie against an opponent that comes from a sequence of lack of victories, so it is already a red flag that no The next game of that team that comes from a sequence of victories can lose or draw, this is a sign of some wear or tear or it happens when the team does not have the same good players there due to injuries or other reasons. looking at the table and the performance of dinamo's opponents, we can say with some confidence that dinamo will be champions, because the performance of its opponents is something disastrous

there is not much competition in the Croatian League, the difference between the teams is very big, a league that only has 10 teams will not have a great competition, to be honest I don't understand why there are not 20 teams in the league, because there are only 10 teams ? I know that the number of people in Croatia is not very big, but I think they could increase the number of teams and put laws that allow the rich to buy teams so that the league is more competitive

[slackovic]

It looks like it's much nicer to write about Hajduk junior team than their seniors. Their juniors managed to beat Borussia Dortmund juniors in the junior UEFA Champions League. After 90 minutes the result was 1-1 but Hajduk was better at penalties. Hajduk will face Milan juniors in the semi final.

[FatFork]

It looks like it's much nicer to write about Hajduk junior team than their seniors. Their juniors managed to beat Borussia Dortmund juniors in the junior UEFA Champions League. After 90 minutes the result was 1-1 but Hajduk was better at penalties. Hajduk will face Milan juniors in the semi final.

To further add to this, the Hajduk juniors have reached Poljud where they were welcomed by the fans after their miraculous victory in Dortmund.

You can follow the live stream here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wmdj1wyT48

[tusandii]

It looks like it's much nicer to write about Hajduk junior team than their seniors. Their juniors managed to beat Borussia Dortmund juniors in the junior UEFA Champions League. After 90 minutes the result was 1-1 but Hajduk was better at penalties. Hajduk will face Milan juniors in the semi final.

Junior Hajduk looks so good and has a chance to become a strong team later but this is just the beginning because with time there will be another team that can beat junior Hajduk's team.
His win against youth team Borussia Dortmund in the UEFA Junior Champions League wasn't a very impressive win as they managed to win on penalties.
If we pay attention to the game at normal times, Borussia Dortmund's junior team is better and superior, but for some reason they can get a draw and lose in a penalty shootout which determines victory in the match.
For the next match in the junior semi-finals, Hajduk will probably be more overwhelmed and have less chance of winning because they are facing the Milan Junior Team which cannot be underestimated.

[slackovic]

To further add to this, the Hajduk juniors have reached Poljud where they were welcomed by the fans after their miraculous victory in Dortmund.

You can follow the live stream here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wmdj1wyT48

This only shows that Hajduk fans are the best part of that team. They are eagerly waiting for an opportunity to celebrate something. I'm not trying to diminish this great achievement of Hajduk juniors. It's a great achievement but I'm sure that Hajduk fans would welcome their senior team if they would give them a reason.

Junior Hajduk looks so good and has a chance to become a strong team later but this is just the beginning because with time there will be another team that can beat junior Hajduk's team.
His win against youth team Borussia Dortmund in the UEFA Junior Champions League wasn't a very impressive win as they managed to win on penalties.
If we pay attention to the game at normal times, Borussia Dortmund's junior team is better and superior, but for some reason they can get a draw and lose in a penalty shootout which determines victory in the match.
For the next match in the junior semi-finals, Hajduk will probably be more overwhelmed and have less chance of winning because they are facing the Milan Junior Team which cannot be underestimated.

I just wanna address this bold part. This win by Hajduk juniors is really an impressive one! They beat one of the top European team and you can't say that it's not impressive.

[JooBra]

I hope the Hajduk management promote most of the players soon to first team, they deserve it and they are the future. I think the fans would like that and rather watch them play even maybe they won't be so competitive first year.

[slackovic]

I hope the Hajduk management promote most of the players soon to first team, they deserve it and they are the future. I think the fans would like that and rather watch them play even maybe they won't be so competitive first year.

I'm not that sure it wil happen. Hajduk management will probably look to sell most of good players as soon as they can. That was their modus operandi in the past and I don't think it will change soon. Maybe they will surprise me.

[Rikafip]

I hope the Hajduk management promote most of the players soon to first team, they deserve it and they are the future.

Judging by how they ran things in the past, that probably won't happen. Hajduk has one of the oldest squads in HNL (older even than Dinamo), and 2nd most amount of foreigners despite the fact that their junior team are HNL champions for the last two years so that tells you how much they trust their young players.

I think the fans would like that and rather watch them play even maybe they won't be so competitive first year.

Everyone says that, but question is how would they react if Hajduk finished 6th or 7th for two consecutive years. What Hajduk needs more than anything is to make a plan and stick to it instead changing it every year or two.

[Daniel91]

It looks like it's much nicer to write about Hajduk junior team than their seniors. Their juniors managed to beat Borussia Dortmund juniors in the junior UEFA Champions League. After 90 minutes the result was 1-1 but Hajduk was better at penalties. Hajduk will face Milan juniors in the semi final.

Junior Hajduk looks so good and has a chance to become a strong team later but this is just the beginning because with time there will be another team that can beat junior Hajduk's team.
His win against youth team Borussia Dortmund in the UEFA Junior Champions League wasn't a very impressive win as they managed to win on penalties.
If we pay attention to the game at normal times, Borussia Dortmund's junior team is better and superior, but for some reason they can get a draw and lose in a penalty shootout which determines victory in the match.
For the next match in the junior semi-finals, Hajduk will probably be more overwhelmed and have less chance of winning because they are facing the Milan Junior Team which cannot be underestimated.

I'm not really sure if we were watching the same game 
Hajduk was a better team than Borussia Dortmund, they had more chances to score and they should have won even before the penalties.
The penalty for Dortmund was very doubtful.
I remind you that Hajduk did not reach the semi-finals of the Junior Champions League by chance and that before that victory against Dortmund, Hajduk also defeated Manchester City, the first favorite of this competition.
I think that Milan juniors should be afraid of Hajduk and not the other way around 
We will soon find out how much Hajduk juniors can do.

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Hajduk Split vs Slaven Koprivnica's head to head record shows that of the 38 meetings they've had, Hajduk Split has won 19 times and Slaven Koprivnica has won 6 times. 13 fixtures between Hajduk Split and Slaven Koprivnica has ended in a draw. All has not been going well in terms of goal scoring for Slaven Koprivnica recently, with the side failing to score in 3 of the last 5 games. the manager has to change his tactics in todays match, or bring in another forward in other to get the ground rolling once again but the host team will always be a better side at home more than their Rivals.

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Dinamo Zagreb Rijeka played so far 84 matches. Dinamo Zagreb won 43 direct matches. Rijeka won 22 matches. 19 matches ended in a draw. On average in direct matches both teams scored a 3.06 goals per Match. GNK Dinamo Zagreb is going head to head with HNK Rijeka starting on 19 Mar 2023 at Maksimir stadium, Zagreb city, Croatia. The match is a part of the HNL. GNK Dinamo Zagreb played against HNK Rijeka in 2 matches this season. Currently, GNK Dinamo Zagreb rank 1st, while HNK Rijeka hold 5th position, the home team is expected to win this match because of their position in the league, home advantage and both teams head to head record.

[Daniel91]

Dinamo Zagreb Rijeka played so far 84 matches. Dinamo Zagreb won 43 direct matches. Rijeka won 22 matches. 19 matches ended in a draw. On average in direct matches both teams scored a 3.06 goals per Match. GNK Dinamo Zagreb is going head to head with HNK Rijeka starting on 19 Mar 2023 at Maksimir stadium, Zagreb city, Croatia. The match is a part of the HNL. GNK Dinamo Zagreb played against HNK Rijeka in 2 matches this season. Currently, GNK Dinamo Zagreb rank 1st, while HNK Rijeka hold 5th position, the home team is expected to win this match because of their position in the league, home advantage and both teams head to head record.

Yes, I agree, great statistics for Dinamo, but you didn't take into account some other factors important for this game.
Dinamo has been in a very big crisis of play and results for a long time, and in fact they are lucky that the second-placed team of the Croatian league, Hajduk, is in an even bigger crisis, so they don't have to worry for their first place and the championship title.
Some key Dinamo players, such as Ademi and Orsic, have left, and the rest of the team is clearly under the influence of a major crisis in Dinamo's leadership and media pressure.
It seems that Dinamo coach Cacic is also in conflict with the club's new management.
On the other hand, in the continuation of the championship, Rijeka is playing reborn, much better, and from being a candidate for relegation from the league, they have become candidates for placement in one of the European club competitions.
It would not surprise me at all if Dinamo does not win this match, or even if it loses, given the current circumstances and the situation around the club.

[Daniel91]

While there is a break in this competition, I just want to ask if you have heard of the rumor that Orsic could temporarily return from England and play for Dinamo again?
I don't know how realistic or achievable it is, but it seems to me that it would be the best solution for everyone, both clubs and Orsic.
Southampton obviously do not need Orsic, and allegedly they have not yet paid the full amount to Dinamo, so they would save money if they terminated the contract earlier.
Dinamo Orsic doesn't need that much in the championship because they are still dominant in the Croatian football league, but they will soon start qualifying for the Champions League, and Orsić's help would be valuable there.
Dinamo doesn't live from the Croatian league but from European competitions, and that's why they have to create a strong team again.
A return to Dinamo would probably save Orsic's career, which is very important for him, but also for the Croatian national team.
In short, everyone would benefit if the contract with Southampton was terminated and Orsic returned to Dinamo 

[cryptofrka]

While there is a break in this competition, I just want to ask if you have heard of the rumor that Orsic could temporarily return from England and play for Dinamo again?
I don't know how realistic or achievable it is, but it seems to me that it would be the best solution for everyone, both clubs and Orsic.
Southampton obviously do not need Orsic, and allegedly they have not yet paid the full amount to Dinamo, so they would save money if they terminated the contract earlier.
Dinamo Orsic doesn't need that much in the championship because they are still dominant in the Croatian football league, but they will soon start qualifying for the Champions League, and Orsić's help would be valuable there.
Dinamo doesn't live from the Croatian league but from European competitions, and that's why they have to create a strong team again.
A return to Dinamo would probably save Orsic's career, which is very important for him, but also for the Croatian national team.
In short, everyone would benefit if the contract with Southampton was terminated and Orsic returned to Dinamo 

I think there's no way of this happening. Dinamo will want that transfer money and Oršić will want his current salary.
I don't see Southampton sending him back, he's good enough to play in the Championship where they are likely heading.

[Daniel91]

While there is a break in this competition, I just want to ask if you have heard of the rumor that Orsic could temporarily return from England and play for Dinamo again?
I don't know how realistic or achievable it is, but it seems to me that it would be the best solution for everyone, both clubs and Orsic.
Southampton obviously do not need Orsic, and allegedly they have not yet paid the full amount to Dinamo, so they would save money if they terminated the contract earlier.
Dinamo Orsic doesn't need that much in the championship because they are still dominant in the Croatian football league, but they will soon start qualifying for the Champions League, and Orsić's help would be valuable there.
Dinamo doesn't live from the Croatian league but from European competitions, and that's why they have to create a strong team again.
A return to Dinamo would probably save Orsic's career, which is very important for him, but also for the Croatian national team.
In short, everyone would benefit if the contract with Southampton was terminated and Orsic returned to Dinamo 

I think there's no way of this happening. Dinamo will want that transfer money and Oršić will want his current salary.
I don't see Southampton sending him back, he's good enough to play in the Championship where they are likely heading.

In football, there have been bigger surprises than that, such as the return of Livaja from abroad to Hajduk. Why wouldn't Orsic do that if it would save his career?
What do Southampton have from Orsic now? Only dead capital and they actually lose big money on him.
Do you really think that Oršić would even play for Southampton in the Championship and now he is not even a reserve player?
I am convinced that Southampton will do everything they can to get rid of Orsic because they clearly have no patience for him and don't count on Orsic anymore.

[cryptofrka]

In football, there have been bigger surprises than that, such as the return of Livaja from abroad to Hajduk. Why wouldn't Orsic do that if it would save his career?
What do Southampton have from Orsic now? Only dead capital and they actually lose big money on him.
Do you really think that Oršić would even play for Southampton in the Championship and now he is not even a reserve player?
I am convinced that Southampton will do everything they can to get rid of Orsic because they clearly have no patience for him and don't count on Orsic anymore.

Football doesn't work like Fifa. I'm not saying that Southampton doesn't want to get rid of him, I'm saying that they probably wouldn't want to get rid of him for 1m euro.
Dinamo can't pay him nearly close to what Southampton is currently paying - meaning that Southampton would have to pay a part of his salary as well.

Livaja came to Hajduk from Greece - not England, and on a free transfer. Oršić has a 2mil euro yearly salary. They are nowhere near the same.