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November 07, 2022, 02:21:59 PM
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Everyone cannot possibly own a business and work for themselves. The idea of being your own boss and independent is in reality very achievable for some and a mirage for most.
And that’s why people take up second jobs or use their skills(another reason why skills are important) to earn and get another source of revenue.

We really can’t all be CEOs.
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November 07, 2022, 02:32:06 PM
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I see what you mean, it's better to fight for your own business or company than someone else's. Maybe everyone wants that but the fate of people is different and maybe if there is a desire to have a business we need capital and that capital is obtained from us working in other people's companies.
and I'm sure a lot of people work for other people and plan ahead to make a business, and if they are already rich why work for someone else and start a business right away. But it's not easy because business requires experience and finding a good way to do business and all need process in different ways until we can make it happen.
and that way we can invest some of the profits from the business for the future or old age, with the aim of the money invested being able to work or make a profit and my advice is real estate, gold and prioritize bitcoin a safe and good place for long-term investment choices.

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November 07, 2022, 06:13:52 PM
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I see what you mean, it's better to fight for your own business or company than someone else's. Maybe everyone wants that but the fate of people is different and maybe if there is a desire to have a business we need capital and that capital is obtained from us working in other people's companies.
and I'm sure a lot of people work for other people and plan ahead to make a business, and if they are already rich why work for someone else and start a business right away. But it's not easy because business requires experience and finding a good way to do business and all need process in different ways until we can make it happen.
and that way we can invest some of the profits from the business for the future or old age, with the aim of the money invested being able to work or make a profit and my advice is real estate, gold and prioritize bitcoin a safe and good place for long-term investment choices.

Exactly, not everyone can manage a business. Some people are better off working for a company.
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November 07, 2022, 06:27:56 PM
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I see what you mean, it's better to fight for your own business or company than someone else's. Maybe everyone wants that but the fate of people is different and maybe if there is a desire to have a business we need capital and that capital is obtained from us working in other people's companies.
and I'm sure a lot of people work for other people and plan ahead to make a business, and if they are already rich why work for someone else and start a business right away. But it's not easy because business requires experience and finding a good way to do business and all need process in different ways until we can make it happen.
and that way we can invest some of the profits from the business for the future or old age, with the aim of the money invested being able to work or make a profit and my advice is real estate, gold and prioritize bitcoin a safe and good place for long-term investment choices.
suggesting everyone fight for business or become entrepreneur is not a wise thing, I really can't imagine what it would be like if everyone became owner or CEO, I think the balance of society and ecosystem becomes unbalanced.
I suggest if you are a current employee or worker, work well and honestly in your job, even though you think "work well equals increasing the profits of the owner of the company" but at least your family's needs are met and the stove at home is still alive, and the money obtained from the results of your hard work, manage it well, do not use it for things that are not important. even if you want to use it to start a new business or invest, never think about wanting to get rich, because that mindset will influence your character to become a greedy and potentially self-destructive person.
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November 07, 2022, 06:56:07 PM
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We all have different occupations and work for different companies. We work hard and keep improving ourselves to show our company owner how good we are at our work and how efficient we can be in growing the company. But all we are doing is helping grow someone else's companies. All our talent and struggle is to help someone else earn more money. What are we doing for ourselves? At some point in our life, we must grow our own businesses for our own safety.
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Imagine if all people will create their own business and no one gets interested as an employee, then what do you think will happen?  It will be a complete chaos and possibly a country's economy will plummet.  There will be no policemen to maintain the peace, no firemen to extinguish fires, no soldiers, and no judges because all of us establish our own businesses. A country won't have a president because the suppose to be a candidate is busy doing and growing his own business.  A country will be in anarchy because it doesn't have any authority because all people are busy growing their business.

I believe balance is the best thing, there are people who have knacks for business, while others are good an employee.  so I guess the best approach is just to do where we think we are best.



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November 07, 2022, 07:15:42 PM
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The title "Do your work" refers to growing your own business

There's no doubt about this and I strongly recommend this step to be taken, build your own business for yourself, enough of working for someone without anything to showcase, although i believe that we all have to work under someone in other to gain experience, earn some money to begin to start our own business idea into a reality, but i don't see it a good thing to work over years for someone without any dignity of labour as reward at the end, I've seen people getting sacked after working under someone for more than twenty years just because of a single mistake, but what lains me most is about what the employee had been doing all these years without working his own way out, even if it's a little savings from the earnings can serve a good option for a start up he could have worked on in growing his own enterprise, but we cannot actually achieve a future we do not admire, being successful start from the mind, then the steps follows, let's try to discover our potentials and work something out for ourselves to remain independent with career.

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November 07, 2022, 07:37:53 PM
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There are people that are only for employment and don't want to complicate themselves in managing their own business and assets. But I'm sure that they'll come to the point in their lives where they will realize that it's time for them to upskill and upgrade as they can't be employees forever. Like this pandemic has made, there are many jobs that are not pandemic proof and what if there's a worse scenario that comes that shall affect majority of the jobs.

Starting and running a business is not an easy task. There are some persons that would never dare to take the risk of investing or establishing a business. If everybody becomes self-employed who would be the employees that would carryout the daily task of these businesses. People that have intention to start their businesses in future can work in a firm with the aim of understudying how such business operates. This can help them to start and operate their own businesses. Others that are not skillful in running their personal business should ensure they invest wisely, so that when they retire they can have some funds or income to fall back on. Yeah Bitcoin and real estate would be viable investments.

There would always be employment opportunities. It is true that the Covid-19 pandemic affected many jobs negatively, but it also brought new business opportunities that gave massive employment to job seekers.     

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But all we are doing is helping grow someone else's companies. All our talent and struggle is to help someone else earn more money. What are we doing for ourselves?

Indeed, most people think of setting up their own business, but fewer of us are able to do so. The main reason is capital. Money is the main source for running a business. Furthermore, the trust of certain parties who actually have more money.

We have little capital, then try to manage our own business, in the end we will give up on what we are doing, because it does not match our needs, the time we spend, with the income.

When we work for other people, and make their company great with the energy, thought, and time we spend. Thus, the company has helped our lives. At least we don't become beggars, and the wages we get are honorable. For me it is not a problem.

But we should not be dissolved with the wages we get. Set aside a small portion for promising investments, such as investing in Bitcoin, gold, even buying a piece of land. Because when we no longer work in other people's companies, of course the capital to open our own business is ready.
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You just might be right onost of your insinuations but, you've got to strat from some whee don't you?
No one was birth with money, a few might be birth to a wealthy family and have some property to inherit while a whole others have to fine there every penny, build from the scratch.

For most of these persons, they might have dreams but most of there dreams have to begin from someone else's dream. Hence, for one who believes in his or her dreams, they've got to start with a good money management. It's how you get funds for your business and to ascertain yourself to have what it takes to manage a business or enough resources to employ a manager.

Business is good but management is everything. Its what makes the difference.

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November 07, 2022, 08:24:53 PM
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Easy to say on having a business for those individuals who do work on offices or typical physical jobs but we know that having a business isnt something giving out 100% guarantee of success which means that not all

would really be ending up good on this choices +(plus) not all does have the capital on doing so and also doesnt have the skills.This is why they do really end up on on staying and hardworking on the current company

that they are working on and dont mind about those having business or being completely free on having a boss.Lets just face that not all would really be having this kind of mindset and this is why
we do really see different conditions or situations on which a certain person is involved into.

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November 07, 2022, 08:55:12 PM
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Everyone cannot possibly own a business and work for themselves. The idea of being your own boss and independent is in reality very achievable for some and a mirage for most.
And that’s why people take up second jobs or use their skills(another reason why skills are important) to earn and get another source of revenue.

We really can’t all be CEOs.
People don't have experience to be CEO for example, the ability of public speaking, good charm to be actually a CEO, manage the employees etc. It's require practice and experience to be able to do that and people seems to be afraid of this considering if they do something wrong, it could affect the entire business because this job is really crucial and take an important in the business.

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While there certainly is risk in business and investment. The biggest risk of all could be not making an effort to multiply assets of wealth. While fear of failure is a concern for many. Fear of not trying and missing out on becoming an early adopter of good opportunities, could be a more valid thing to be afraid of.

In terms of scenarios surrounding living wages and retirement. Its difficult to imagine a case where a person is able to retire without a plan to multiply their holdings. While business and investment are generally considered alternative options. Given statistics relating to retirement, they could in fact be necessities for retiring at all.

Correlation between risk and reward imply amassing the most risk is the best strategy for wealth accumulation. The only difference between Elon Musk and gambling addicts being one uses sound guidance and strategy in selecting the risks they choose to shoulder. While the other is more impulsive and emotional about their own risks.
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But all we are doing is helping grow someone else's companies. All our talent and struggle is to help someone else earn more money. What are we doing for ourselves? At some point in our life, we must grow our own businesses for our own safety.
but subconsciously when you work trying to help develop someone else's company, you also develop your talents from that company and you gain experience skills from your work.
so that after you get all these experiences and feel worthy to try to open your own business, I am sure you are able to develop your own business.
so you don't have to worry when you work in a company of course when you leave there you must have gained experience to develop all your business.
so you don't have to worry about facing your future in your own company in the future

The title "Do your work" refers to growing your own business. We all have some skills in different sectors and we use all of our energy to work for a company and get a monthly salary. But we are not supposed to work for that company till death. so how will we bear our living expenses after retirement? Most people do not think about that.
actually when we work for a company, we don't have to be there too long. we are in the company, only need experience and hone our skills for provisions before opening our own business.
and on the other hand when working in that company, we are not only looking for experience and skills, but looking for money as initial capital to open our own business.

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you are right everyone has skills and has many skills in various fields,
but why work in someone else's company, instead of opening your own business, the answer is simple, namely
"don't have capital" so with that in your heart, I work in this company just to find capital for my future business.

and don't feel like you're just advancing people's companies, without you realizing you're also advancing yourself, whatever it is,

- your abilities are growing
- increasing experience
- your mental is getting stronger

Don't feel like working in someone else's company is just a waste of time, but make it a learning tool and a place to hone your skills, so that when you start your own business, you will be more trained.

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suggesting everyone fight for business or become entrepreneur is not a wise thing, I really can't imagine what it would be like if everyone became owner or CEO, I think the balance of society and ecosystem becomes unbalanced.
You don't have to worry about ideas or recommendations that recommend people start a business rather than an employee, as this has been around for a long time. But frankly, not everyone can do this. I've seen a lot of people quit their jobs to start a business, but after a few months everyone is back in their old jobs. It's easy to say but not easy to do.

I suggest if you are a current employee or worker, work well and honestly in your job, even though you think "work well equals increasing the profits of the owner of the company" but at least your family's needs are met and the stove at home is still alive, and the money obtained from the results of your hard work, manage it well, do not use it for things that are not important. even if you want to use it to start a new business or invest, never think about wanting to get rich, because that mindset will influence your character to become a greedy and potentially self-destructive person.

Correct, being an employee is not necessarily bad, if you do your job well, you will still receive the rewards you deserve. Don't always think that we are just enriching others, that is the mindset that kills our future. If you later become a business owner and your employees think the same way you do. Your business won't survive either.

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At some point in our life, we must grow our own businesses for our own safety.
Dude, what are you talking about?  I get your bottom-line message of investing in metals and/or bitcoin, but if you're in any way arguing that everyone should start their own business, that's untenable and is never going to happen.  I can't tell if you're fishing for merits with this thread or what, because your post is just a bunch of bloated, general stuff that's been written many times on this forum.

The world needs wage slaves, whether you like it or not, and most people are going to end up being one of them (though it's a harsh way of looking at having a job).  Just keep in mind that there's much more to life than work and money.  

I think sometimes we have to repeat some topic because of its importance. People forget these over time. So it was just a reminder for everyone to do their work.

Well, you can always have a choice to specifically search for a certain topic and post what you think is relevant for the thread rather than creating a new one, coz some people might start another topic just exactly like this and this will completely result into a multiple thread that contains the same topic.

I think the ratio of people who have business to people who don't have was like 1:20. So, advice like putting up a business should not always gonna be the first thing you tell to the people, but invest instead.

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Saying and doing, as well as wanting and having, are two different things. By your own example, OP, do you have your own business? If there is, we would be interested in how you decided to create it and how long you can manage it. I say this because everyone understands perfectly well that it is better to work for yourself and not for someone else's uncle. But only a few are able to step out of their comfort zone and take the risk of starting their own business. Exactly the same applies to investments. People want stability, but stability is a very short-lived thing since we all depend on a society that responds well to the ups and downs of the market. Running your own business requires the right preparation and ingenuity, and I'm not even afraid to say that luck is required.
In the absence of such qualities, one can very quickly descend from heaven to earth, and the initiative to work for oneself remains only in words.

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It depends on where you are currently in your life. Maybe you are in the state where you will continue to work because it's safe and you love what you're doing, or you are in the state where you are bored to the death of your job and want something different. Something for yourself could propel you to the things you wish for or the success you want.

I agree that everyone should plan for their future retirement so that they wouldn't have a problem once they are there. I hope you are doing your job for yourself, but it shouldn't be something that would make you think selfishly because that's your job; you should fulfill the role for the company, and if not, just go out. It might not be helpful to the company you are working for.

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The title op this thread should have been ==> "Do your own work" ..because that is what you are implying. The problem is... most employers have a protection clause in their employment contract with their employees to protect their business from people leaving and starting a competitive business with the knowledge and skills that they acquired at their previous employer. (usually a geographical restriction)

Everyone should have a backup plan and a balanced financial portfolio, where you have a mix between low / medium / high risk investments. Bitcoin is a high risk investment, because it is still experimental and you should consider investing smaller amounts in it, if you are middle aged or older..... but young people can risk more.  Wink

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November 08, 2022, 06:53:21 AM
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I don't agree with your point, not everyone can build their own business, sometimes it's better for them to work with other people. But I agree, even everyone should be able to allocate their funds to investments, so that in the future the value of their assets can increase (or not).
That is because building a business is not easy. It takes a good amount of capital, skill, patience and other quality traits and it's normal for people to advance think and get's discouraged easily. This is wrong but they should have the courage to at least try it and see if it works for them or not. It's normal to fail once, twice or thrice but they can try again until they finally master it. That's going to be the time that they will succeed.

Working from someone else can be easy and hard at the same time because you are being dictated and there are times your boss are angry with you. The salary is also small, makes it hard for them to invest or save up.
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