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November 17, 2022, 02:02:11 PM
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There's really nothing to argue about with Bitcoin because Bitcoin basically doesn't make mistakes. The decline and increase that occurs in Bitcoin is the work of traders and buyers because they make supply and demand as they desire in their hearts.
The debate in this case is not about mistakes. It is also related to the theory of supply and demand due to the sale and purchase of bitcoins. For me bitcoin has unique characteristics that no other has

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The world will be fine if greedy people and those who are good at making politics and FUD disappear in this world. But it's really difficult to lose or get rid of because the desires and intentions of each person are always different so that it always gives birth to different opinions on the same matter
Politics should not be used on things that are contrary to its meaning, but because a few people use power to fulfill their desires, so that politics is seen as cruel and there are no friends or foes.

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What I see over time and years on Bitcoin is the increase and decrease and increase in people who like Bitcoin, that's all and that's also apart from those who often make FUDs against Bitcoin which basically they also like Bitcoin, but because they don't want to buy at a higher price, then in the end they started to make FUD and also started to create a little conflict so that people who had clung to Bitcoin began to panic and sell the Bitcoin they already had.
Likewise, people who understand the concept of bitcoin, they will never panic even though the market is in a severe correction, bitcoin has gone through a long cycle since its introduction by its creator, and until now the growth and adoption of bitcoin is getting bigger
The reason is quite simple, because bitcoin can increase and is able to maintain a hedge, this concept we rarely find in any investment, even though it does not ignore the correction process on its way in the market.

Unfortunately, world will never be fine is a correct approach. One of the oldest understandings of political philosophy is that if everything is fine, then there is absolutely no need for people to vote for you, and that means the opponent will try to find every single mistake in order to get the votes and that means people who do not create chaos will never be picked.
Political control is far from its true meaning. If any election still uses money politics, it will never reach the level of equality, because it is certain that people in power have big money to win elections. So that when they are elected, corrupt, authoritarian leaders are born and never want to resolve horizontal conflicts.

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How do you think Bush had absolutely no chance of winning a re-election but ended up with a war and won it? That happens all around the world in a small scale, sure not a whole war, but they create troubles so that they could show themselves to be the solution instead and that’s why we will never be fine.
When we want to discuss the scope of politics, then there will be freedom that we cannot express in a vulgar manner, it places limits and prohibits someone from expressing an opinion. Because of this, humans are so tired of facing the political conditions that occur in their country, that political understanding emerges that is more critical than anything else, even though the real meaning of politics is not as shown by the current authorities.
We don't want to widen in terms of ongoing discussions, but if the discussion is about politics, it doesn't seem so interesting to discuss.

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November 18, 2022, 05:03:04 PM
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When we want to discuss the scope of politics, then there will be freedom that we cannot express in a vulgar manner, it places limits and prohibits someone from expressing an opinion. Because of this, humans are so tired of facing the political conditions that occur in their country, that political understanding emerges that is more critical than anything else, even though the real meaning of politics is not as shown by the current authorities.
We don't want to widen in terms of ongoing discussions, but if the discussion is about politics, it doesn't seem so interesting to discuss.
Politics will always be about how the world leaders want power, nothing more and will always stay that way. I feel like there is this addiction to it that we are forgetting, even the people who rule a party and lose elections all the time dislike the notion of giving up. If your party loses the elections, then maybe you should quit and let someone else try to win the elections?

But, there are so many parties all around the world with party leaders who lost elections many times and still do not quit. Which proves that it is not about actually ruling, but it’s about people who reach to a power place and do not want to leave and can do anything to keep that power. Terrible thing.

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November 22, 2022, 12:27:22 PM
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Politics will always be about how the world leaders want power, nothing more and will always stay that way. I feel like there is this addiction to it that we are forgetting, even the people who rule a party and lose elections all the time dislike the notion of giving up. If your party loses the elections, then maybe you should quit and let someone else try to win the elections?

But, there are so many parties all around the world with party leaders who lost elections many times and still do not quit. Which proves that it is not about actually ruling, but it’s about people who reach to a power place and do not want to leave and can do anything to keep that power. Terrible thing.
Politics has come out of the idea of ​​defending a truth, the function of politics has been applied to the struggle for power and political parties are no longer a means to defend a truth, even though they have lost many times in elections, but the struggle for power will not stop at one, two and three times of defeat, it is for this reason that people are increasingly apathetic and no longer trust politicians.

Talking about politics cannot be separated from the struggle for power, it's just that the way to obtain this power needs to be debated, in an honorable way and not ignoring integrity, responsibility before and after being elected. Therefore, leaders are not justified in buying votes and must be selective in choosing them. The next question is, do people want to do that or not?

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November 22, 2022, 01:42:29 PM
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For those who don't like Bitcoin, don't get excited about this situation just yet. I just want to say that the world is not doing well.
There's always a process of ups and downs in life. None lasts forever. Today may be for a crash and tomorrow for soaring to the north. In essence we can't hastily conclude that the world isn't doing well based on the momentarily incident of crash we have. Bitcoin may be crashing at the moment but that doesn't make it any weaker than the dollar.

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November 22, 2022, 04:15:35 PM
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Dollar exchange rate strengthened. Bitcoin is weak.
For those who don't like Bitcoin, don't get excited about this situation just yet. I just want to say that the world is not doing well.
For Bitcoiners, we must be strong and patient with the situation. The world will be ours.

Why you guys are stressing out the situation? It’s not that bad to be honest. I mean we have seen worst cases previously, and guess what we didn’t lose hope that time, neither this time also. This low price is due to the price manipulation done by the big bulls for their profits, so soon market will be stabled and will go back to the normal state. It’s always best to treat bear market as buying season. Instead of panicking, we should buy as many coins as we can in this cheap affordable bear market. Think wisely and don’t panic.

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November 22, 2022, 04:27:27 PM
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Talking about politics cannot be separated from the struggle for power, it's just that the way to obtain this power needs to be debated, in an honorable way and not ignoring integrity, responsibility before and after being elected. Therefore, leaders are not justified in buying votes and must be selective in choosing them. The next question is, do people want to do that or not?
If that's the question, then I'll try to give a few answers that might be related to what you're asking. The answer is "it depends on the person too" because I don't think everyone can afford votes when they are fighting for a place of power based on the number of votes voting for them. Because it is part of a campaign where each candidate must be able to promote himself in the community and also introduce new programs that can help everyone when they are elected later.
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November 22, 2022, 04:53:11 PM
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There's always a process of ups and downs in life. None lasts forever. Today may be for a crash and tomorrow for soaring to the north. In essence we can't hastily conclude that the world isn't doing well based on the momentarily incident of crash we have. Bitcoin may be crashing at the moment but that doesn't make it any weaker than the dollar.
I would not be afraid to come to the conclusion that the world economy is not doing well. Look around you, it's not easy for them to make money even though they currently have a job. Even if they do make money, its value is destroyed by inflation so in the end the economic disruption is catastrophic and millions of people are feeling the effects.

Outside the context of the world economy, bitcoin is still a great store of value and investment asset to consider. I believe the current price is part of its volatility regardless of the reason, but over time it will only get stronger.

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November 23, 2022, 05:11:03 AM
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The strengthening of the dollar exchange rate will not make investors interest in Bitcoin decrease. We are in a Bearish phase which coincides with the strengthening of the dollar exchange rate, take what you can from the strengthening of the dollar exchange rate.
Naturally, if Bitcoin goes down because this condition will continue to repeat itself in every period, people who don't like Bitcoin will never know what always happens to Bitcoin. Those of us who have been struggling with Cryptocurrency for a long time are always strong and patient in facing the Bearish phase. Whatever conditions occur in the world, Bitcoin will continue to spin in its cycle. Usually after the Bearish phase there will always be a Bullish phase and I believe in Bitcoin because it has been proven to be able to survive in any conditions.

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November 23, 2022, 02:25:40 PM
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If that's the question, then I'll try to give a few answers that might be related to what you're asking. The answer is "it depends on the person too" because I don't think everyone can afford votes when they are fighting for a place of power based on the number of votes voting for them. Because it is part of a campaign where each candidate must be able to promote himself in the community and also introduce new programs that can help everyone when they are elected later.
In my opinion, this is more of a technical issue. Politics today is too inclined to negative things, which are carried out by those in power, politics no longer reflects the values of justice it displays, so that people are increasingly apathetic and don't want to care.

Following are the criteria that must be owned by a leader, according to my perspective?

  • Integrity
This is important to know before choosing a leader, because the highest quality of an ideal leader is if you have integrity.

  • Inspirational
Every leader must be able to inspire people, so that they will do positive things in life, a leader who has this trait is an ideal leader to choose from.

  • Communicate and dare to make decisions
This dual aspect is no less important for leaders to have, because when there is good communication and the courage to make the right decisions, the community will feel protected by daring to give opinions.

  • Creative and Innovative
Leaders must have a vision and mission in leading, so as to give birth to creativity in making decisions, besides that creativity is also very much needed in order to be able to create jobs for the community, thus giving the community space to continue to develop

  • Honest and fair
Every leader must have two things, because this will be a reflection of his leadership, if honesty and justice are not owned, then don't expect leaders to be able to act fairly and want to be involved in solving problems.

These five things are needed to produce good, honest and wise leaders. People will only vote when this criterion is found in certain leaders, but if leaders buy votes during elections, it is certain that leaders who are born will never be able to be fair and wise in making decisions.

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Dollar has gained traction recently, but here in our country it's not any surprise if we analyze the 1 year time period graphics. Actually, it's not even dollar's ATH during the period, so I would say it's pretty stable, what is already a big deal for US, since they have been increasing interest rates without limits this year. A expected to see a weaker dollar at this point, but congratulations to them, for now.

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Dollar has gained traction recently, but here in our country it's not any surprise if we analyze the 1 year time period graphics. Actually, it's not even dollar's ATH during the period, so I would say it's pretty stable, what is already a big deal for US, since they have been increasing interest rates without limits this year. A expected to see a weaker dollar at this point, but congratulations to them, for now.

USD is often high compared to any local currency, it's soaring against EUR also. While the value of the USD rises, people from other countries benefit from it especially if they earn in USD but people not earning USD suffer inflating prices because while USD value is high in other countries the purchasing power of USD in the US is declining.

Yes, the world is not doing well and it could be stopped actually if they would. FED should pivot.


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Now that people are realizing that the concept of Bitcoin is far more relevant when compared to fiat money exchange rates, there is still a lot of debate that shouldn't be happening, but bitcoin has proven its strengths to date.
There's really nothing to argue about with Bitcoin because Bitcoin basically doesn't make mistakes. The decline and increase that occurs in Bitcoin is the work of traders and buyers because they make supply and demand as they desire in their hearts.

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The world will never be fine, if there are still situations that can be created, conflicts, politics and recessions are part of the power that monopolizes the desires of a few people. As long as this is still happening, then until whenever the world will not be fine.
The world will be fine if greedy people and those who are good at making politics and FUD disappear in this world. But it's really difficult to lose or get rid of because the desires and intentions of each person are always different so that it always gives birth to different opinions on the same matter.

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If you look at the condition of bitcoin at the beginning of its emergence, you can imagine how the public reacted to this situation, then what should we worry about just because things haven't improved, everyone who has followed the process of Bitcoin's journey, this is not a big problem anymore. We have so enjoyed whatever conditions occur in Bitcoin.
What I see over time and years on Bitcoin is the increase and decrease and increase in people who like Bitcoin, that's all and that's also apart from those who often make FUDs against Bitcoin which basically they also like Bitcoin, but because they don't want to buy at a higher price, then in the end they started to make FUD and also started to create a little conflict so that people who had clung to Bitcoin began to panic and sell the Bitcoin they already had.

In my opinion, of course every investment must make us profit, but regarding the trend it will go up it's normal, or if one can wait for the price to go down and keep buying. In my opinion Bitcoin is still the same as all other digital currencies, although Bitcoin is a bit special maybe because early adopters only BTC has a lot of advantages over it when it comes to investing.

The price of Bitcoin will have a huge effect on any potential investment. It's important to consider how much growth you want on your investment, and how much time you plan to wait before you sell.

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Dollar has gained traction recently, but here in our country it's not any surprise if we analyze the 1 year time period graphics. Actually, it's not even dollar's ATH during the period, so I would say it's pretty stable, what is already a big deal for US, since they have been increasing interest rates without limits this year. A expected to see a weaker dollar at this point, but congratulations to them, for now.

USD is often high compared to any local currency, it's soaring against EUR also. While the value of the USD rises, people from other countries benefit from it especially if they earn in USD but people not earning USD suffer inflating prices because while USD value is high in other countries the purchasing power of USD in the US is declining.

Yes, the world is not doing well and it could be stopped actually if they would. FED should pivot.
That is true, for us it's good that dollar rises, as our weekly wages are paid in dollar currency. Also, it's good news for most online workers living in poor countries, while working for companies located in wealthy countries. On the other hand, the negative effect of a valuable dollar currency can be experienced in our daily life when purchasing any goods and products around, since they are priced taking dollar into consideration. That is, the more expensive the dollar currency, the more expensive it's going to be the fuel, electronic devices and any other goods which have their raw materials imported from foreigner countries.

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November 24, 2022, 08:35:10 PM
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There is no doubt that during this period that stocks and bitcoin is struggling to make good prices, the dollar has gained so many strength against other currencies thereby making some weak currencies to be much weaker.
I don't think that the strength of dollar is the weakness of Bitcoin. They are not related in competition, the dollar can be very much strengthened but it is still very much vulnerable to inflation.

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Why you guys are stressing out the situation? It’s not that bad to be honest. I mean we have seen worst cases previously, and guess what we didn’t lose hope that time, neither this time also. This low price is due to the price manipulation done by the big bulls for their profits, so soon market will be stabled and will go back to the normal state. It’s always best to treat bear market as buying season. Instead of panicking, we should buy as many coins as we can in this cheap affordable bear market. Think wisely and don’t panic.

It always look anew whenever bitcoin dips. The fud makes it to always seem different and worse than the previous bear markets. That has always been the tool to manipulate the market and majority number of people still fall for the fud and it always produces the results of crashing the market.

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November 24, 2022, 08:42:59 PM
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Dollar has gained traction recently, but here in our country it's not any surprise if we analyze the 1 year time period graphics. Actually, it's not even dollar's ATH during the period, so I would say it's pretty stable, what is already a big deal for US, since they have been increasing interest rates without limits this year. A expected to see a weaker dollar at this point, but congratulations to them, for now.

USD is often high compared to any local currency, it's soaring against EUR also. While the value of the USD rises, people from other countries benefit from it especially if they earn in USD but people not earning USD suffer inflating prices because while USD value is high in other countries the purchasing power of USD in the US is declining.

Yes, the world is not doing well and it could be stopped actually if they would. FED should pivot.
That is true, for us it's good that dollar rises, as our weekly wages are paid in dollar currency. Also, it's good news for most online workers living in poor countries, while working for companies located in wealthy countries. On the other hand, the negative effect of a valuable dollar currency can be experienced in our daily life when purchasing any goods and products around, since they are priced taking dollar into consideration. That is, the more expensive the dollar currency, the more expensive it's going to be the fuel, electronic devices and any other goods which have their raw materials imported from foreigner countries.
The ones who do really benefit out when dollar price or value increase is into those;

1. OFW workers
2. Work from home freelancers on 3rd or developing countries

With having that increase of value then of course it would also increase their salary or income since USD had rose up but thinking up thoroughly
that it would really be still useless since needs and commodities do rise up which means that you would really be still spending those increase funds on increased goods price.  Cheesy
For those who lived up on a 1st world or rich countries and then the salary or wages arent that going up high but good are then this would really be fucked up someones living.
The world isnt really doing well which recession and inflation is really something that do make living more harder.This is why its really that wise on finding out other sources of income
for you to survive at least.

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^ Maybe what you meant is that workers who worked abroad and not specifically OFW as this refer only to Filipino workers abroad?

For sure, dollars value will have an impact to them as the money they will have to send thru their love ones will have more value in their local currency.

But it doesn't mean that they can buy more as the commodities might also be going up because of inflation, so the effect is just minimal.

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I feel like this "not doing well" period will end after winter, and there are many reasons for it to end:
First, after winter europe will relax with gas issue with Russia, and eventually they will find alternatives (USA, Azerbaijan, Qatar etc.)
Second, FED will stop increasing rates. It will make growing economies move, dollar will be cheaper so people will be in more ease doing businesses around the world.
China will very likely relax with covid (I hope so) as spring time means less effective covid.
Bitcoin and gold prices will very like go up, we will probably enjoy next summer with our gains through Bitcoin.

I wish Russia-Ukraine war ends completely... It will completely fix Russia with embargoes and other issues.
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I feel like this "not doing well" period will end after winter, and there are many reasons for it to end:
First, after winter europe will relax with gas issue with Russia, and eventually they will find alternatives (USA, Azerbaijan, Qatar etc.)
Second, FED will stop increasing rates. It will make growing economies move, dollar will be cheaper so people will be in more ease doing businesses around the world.
China will very likely relax with covid (I hope so) as spring time means less effective covid.
Bitcoin and gold prices will very like go up, we will probably enjoy next summer with our gains through Bitcoin.

I wish Russia-Ukraine war ends completely... It will completely fix Russia with embargoes and other issues.
It could, and it couldn't. It is hard to see that things from the present would be solved after winter. I think it will take longer than that to both this industry and overall economy of different  countries. Bitcoin is on the edge of falling to a $12k market value as many investors assumes of. And this is possible especially to the situation we are currently seeing; the price of most cryptos are struggling to current price range. Questions of what factors are exactly pulling down the market prices of cryptos including Bitcoin. My answer as a guess, is all of it. The price of Bitcoin is dependent with the demand. Given that many factors are affecting the demand, I think it is just valid to say that all of those factors are the cause of this downtrend.

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December 05, 2022, 10:10:03 PM
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Dollar exchange rate strengthened. Bitcoin is weak.
For those who don't like Bitcoin, don't get excited about this situation just yet. I just want to say that the world is not doing well.
For Bitcoiners, we must be strong and patient with the situation. The world will be ours.
Only one thing that is making some people to lose their coming today is because of out of patience many of them are running out of patience to I believe that if you have a coin that you hold for a long time then do not because of the market price of Bitcoin now I'm panicking to sell your coin so I believe that whoever that is having a coin will be a beneficial to it and I'm coming

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December 05, 2022, 10:35:28 PM
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Dollar is still weak against real items, if it were actually strong currency the people who hold dollars would benefit from a reduced cost of living but generally all average income populations have become worse off from inflation observed globally.   Its just that Dollar is the least affected, thats how the reserve system works at the moment with a bias towards mostly western currencies.

BTC is priced in dollars but its really not dollar related or reliant so my conclusion is that it can rise in price should demand stay at least level long term.  Clearly we dont keep the bubbly hype levels of demand that was at the top, thats fine I only aspire to the steady gains its had over many years as thats been possibly even more impressive and durable.

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