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November 10, 2022, 03:16:46 PM
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Worse, you're talking to the new polo7 and 325btc clones, when they taking a break and are not talking to each other.

Interesting. Then we have a ban evader.
I've added him to my ignore list and will also report him.


I dont agree i belive Same things becouse i went Same economy course with polo7 he knows economy very well so i learn from Him but 325 i dont know about probably 325 might be student of polo7
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November 10, 2022, 03:38:49 PM
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@OP, what was your worst experience from a bank? Afaik, banks are closer to government oversight and they're more responsible for your money.
One case binance may consider you to retract your remarks[1]. Binance in some clauses follows the rules of crypto mechanisms in general such as transactions are irreversible, withdrawal speed depends on network traffic, etc.


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November 10, 2022, 03:47:59 PM
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If your coins indeed were safe with exchanges, why have all suspended withdrawals (for 24 hours plus) due to unscheduled maintenance (I'm not sure about coinbase but I remember binance having a 48 hour one - some exchanges have been known to start manually confirming withdrawals too which doesn't make sense - if it was because you expected some accounts could cheat, why wouldn't you just tell them specifically and not affect everyone else). I'd expect any problem exchange side to be fixed within 2 hours or for them to have a float (/hot wallet) of funds they can still use to process withdrawals and don't mine losing in case a vulnerability persists.

The main reason exchanges have closed so far is due to mismanagement of funds, don't trust when there's no reason to. It might not take many conspiring individuals to completely empty an exchanges wallet in future too.
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November 10, 2022, 04:28:01 PM
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Exchangers like binance Are safer then banks and walllets.
Becouse If something happens they always refund losses.
Binance have done this many times and i know there someone to watch over my wealth.
Private wallets they can be hacked but nobody dont refund.

We live of generation of refund, in crypto main thing Are refund what i did learn about.


Exchanges are the worst place to keep your funds. Op you have wrong impression on wallets. Use hardware wallets or probably Ledger to store your funds. These are the best and secure method to keep your funds safe. The reason for which I am saying that exchanges are not safe is that, it don’t give complete access to our own coins, and by somehow they have access to our coins. Moreover already there are many examples in the history where there was security breach in exchanges and for which the coins are stolen from exchanges.

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November 10, 2022, 05:12:13 PM
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Exchangers like binance Are safer then banks and walllets.
Becouse If something happens they always refund losses.
Binance have done this many times and i know there someone to watch over my wealth.
Private wallets they can be hacked but nobody dont refund.

We live of generation of refund, in crypto main thing Are refund what i did learn about.

This is completely wrong. Binance is currently refunding their customers after any incident, as long as they have the amount of funds they were able to refund. But if they face a massive any incident that puts them in such situation then they will have no words except to say "Sorry" to their customers. Then the trader will be stuck there. So be careful and don't trust any exchange blindly, the mighty today can also be the loser tomorrow.

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November 10, 2022, 05:44:21 PM
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Exchangers like binance Are safer then banks and walllets.
Becouse If something happens they always refund losses.
Binance have done this many times and i know there someone to watch over my wealth.
Private wallets they can be hacked but nobody dont refund.

We live of generation of refund, in crypto main thing Are refund what i did learn about.

This is completely wrong. Binance is currently refunding their customers after any incident, as long as they have the amount of funds they were able to refund. But if they face a massive any incident that puts them in such situation then they will have no words except to say "Sorry" to their customers. Then the trader will be stuck there. So be careful and don't trust any exchange blindly, the mighty today can also be the loser tomorrow.

People do business in exchangers we stake we trade we use leverage it's like NASA or hospital you cant just close it.
That's why big guys are close to exchangers binance is backed up wall Street.
If something happens then who gona belive in crypto anymore ??
If they close it they get coins and USDT but those are worthless without people who's using it. 
It's a whole big crypto economy USDT USDC busd and btc and other crypto you cant just close it it went too far.

So it's like electricity or water system.
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November 10, 2022, 06:11:12 PM
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Exchangers like binance Are safer then banks and walllets.
Becouse If something happens they always refund losses.
Binance have done this many times and i know there someone to watch over my wealth.
Private wallets they can be hacked but nobody dont refund.

We live of generation of refund, in crypto main thing Are refund what i did learn about.

This is completely wrong. Binance is currently refunding their customers after any incident, as long as they have the amount of funds they were able to refund. But if they face a massive any incident that puts them in such situation then they will have no words except to say "Sorry" to their customers. Then the trader will be stuck there. So be careful and don't trust any exchange blindly, the mighty today can also be the loser tomorrow.

People do business in exchangers we stake we trade we use leverage it's like NASA or hospital you cant just close it.
That's why big guys are close to exchangers binance is backed up wall Street.
If something happens then who gona belive in crypto anymore ??
If they close it they get coins and USDT but those are worthless without people who's using it. 
It's a whole big crypto economy USDT USDC busd and btc and other crypto you cant just close it it went too far.

So it's like electricity or water system.

After believing all these backup stories, think about how correct it is to think of the exchange as a bank. Exchanges are the worst place to hold funds, any exchange is safe until the black chapter of that exchange comes out. Any experienced trader, investor tries their best to keep their funds safe. I can't keep my funds anywhere on someone's word, anything can happen at any time and they can refuse to return my funds.

So be careful not only binance but any exchange. I have no confidence in your words, I think all this is not so easy as you think. So give priority to caution rather than influencing people in the wrong direction.

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November 10, 2022, 07:01:54 PM
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At least i get refund and i sleep well
I think what's happening currently to FTX exchange should have teach lot's of people not to leave their coin on exchange, the only thing I always advice people to do is to immediately transfer their coin from exchange after buying it to your non custodial wallet address, we have seen lot's of exchanges being hacked in history of crypto and lot's of people have lost their money, I think you are talking like this because you haven't experienced exchange hack before, but its really a bad advice leaving your coin on exchange.
Incase their is no hack, exchange can decide to freeze your account any moment and they will definitely give you reason that you go against their rules. Always avoid leaving your coin on exchange, anything can happen to any exchange any moment.

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November 10, 2022, 07:24:51 PM
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At least i get refund and i sleep well
I think what's happening currently to FTX exchange should have teach lot's of people not to leave their coin on exchange, the only thing I always advice people to do is to immediately transfer their coin from exchange after buying it to your non custodial wallet address, we have seen lot's of exchanges being hacked in history of crypto and lot's of people have lost their money, I think you are talking like this because you haven't experienced exchange hack before, but its really a bad advice leaving your coin on exchange.
Incase their is no hack, exchange can decide to freeze your account any moment and they will definitely give you reason that you go against their rules. Always avoid leaving your coin on exchange, anything can happen to any exchange any moment.


Refund Will be FTX have full responsebility actially the owner have liabilities.
Don't take other people money then If you cant have responsebility If your mistake you pay , it's Simple as that
People need to start Taking responsebility you cant just take money and say i just took it.

I don't want to hear this crap anymore

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Exchangers like binance Are safer then banks and walllets.
No, genuine and experienced crypto investors will agree with you on this one because everything you said is totally false and I believe you'll ignore everything you said here in the future when you experience a worse situation with exchange like Binance.


Becouse If something happens they always refund losses.
Binance have done this many times and i know there someone to watch over my wealth.
This idea was created by Binance to gain the crypto community's trust but have you wondered where the fund they used to refund the losses come from? Its actually come from you because Binance charge ridiculous withdrawal fee especially for BTC.


Private wallets they can be hacked but nobody dont refund.

We live of generation of refund, in crypto main thing Are refund what i did learn about.
If rivate crypto wallet is hacked is totally though the human error of the wallet owner.
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Exchangers like binance Are safer then banks and walllets.
Becouse If something happens they always refund losses.
Binance have done this many times and i know there someone to watch over my wealth.
Private wallets they can be hacked but nobody dont refund.

We live of generation of refund, in crypto main thing Are refund what i did learn about.

This is completely wrong. Binance is currently refunding their customers after any incident, as long as they have the amount of funds they were able to refund. But if they face a massive any incident that puts them in such situation then they will have no words except to say "Sorry" to their customers. Then the trader will be stuck there. So be careful and don't trust any exchange blindly, the mighty today can also be the loser tomorrow.
This is true, it would really vary on such situation because it will really be basing up on the severity of such situation whether they could able to compensate up or not.If the damage was done on bigger manner

then it would really be that hard on at least making that compensation or patching up on whats been lost.This is why its never been a good thing or ideal on trusting up 100% of these platforms.

Im aint saying that Banks and wallets are much safer but we should not make ourselves not too get blinded or being too confident on things that do happens around currently.
Everything could really happen in a snap and this is why we should really be that careful.

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November 10, 2022, 07:53:58 PM
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I don't want to hear this crap anymore
If you think keeping your coin on exchange is the best, then you can go ahead nobody is stopping, since you already made up your mind then you are free, it's your money, if anything happens to it then you will be the one to lose not me, so you can leave all your funds on exchange, but whenever anything happens to your money you shouldn't come here and complain.
Also am sure some newbies will be reading this post, I don't want you to mislead them.

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November 10, 2022, 08:02:32 PM
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Exchangers like binance Are safer then banks and walllets.
Becouse If something happens they always refund losses.
Binance have done this many times and i know there someone to watch over my wealth.
Private wallets they can be hacked but nobody dont refund.

We live of generation of refund, in crypto main thing Are refund what i did learn about.


You are wrong but not totally wrong and you are correct but not totally correct. Some people are afraid to hold their funds by themselves. They have short memory to keep their keys well and they cannot protect their wallets from hackers. But to people who can take care of their private wallet, exchange is not the best place for them.
Some reputable exchanges refund and they have good security architecture. Binance is safe to certain level.
Generally speaking you cannot say that your money in another man's hand is safer than your money in your hand. It is not a nice thing to think about.

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November 11, 2022, 01:26:53 AM
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People do business in exchangers we stake we trade we use leverage it's like NASA or hospital you cant just close it.
That's why big guys are close to exchangers binance is backed up wall Street.
If something happens then who gona belive in crypto anymore ??
If they close it they get coins and USDT but those are worthless without people who's using it. 
It's a whole big crypto economy USDT USDC busd and btc and other crypto you cant just close it it went too far.

The intrinsic value of cryptocurrencies is independent of the exchanges (except for coins issued by exchanges), there are some cryptocurrencies that have an inherent utility that will not be lost by the influence of the exchange, and they still have value transacted on a p2p basis. But it is undeniable that most of today's crypto holders are traders, if the exchange problems affect prices then the market reaction is not a question of confidence, but another concern of avoiding the risk of loss due to massive selling.

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November 11, 2022, 03:17:23 AM
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Exchangers like binance Are safer then banks and walllets.
Becouse If something happens they always refund losses.
Binance have done this many times and i know there someone to watch over my wealth.
Private wallets they can be hacked but nobody dont refund.

We live of generation of refund, in crypto main thing Are refund what i did learn about.


As far as I know, cryptocurrency is the best way to exchange money as long as you are sure of the crypto coin you are going to exchange for your capital or savings. But not to the point that the exchange platform is safer compared to the bank, Yes, Binance is one of what we can say is a stable exchange here in this field industry and is known in this business, But let's admit to ourselves that even though it is stable and among the Binance is the top exchange in the market, it has been hacked several times, although the Binance exchange system blocked it immediately so they resolved it immediately, Binance was still robbed.

In short, all exchanges in cryptocurrency still have a real risk, it's really up to us how much value we leave here, so some of us here say only leave the amount you are ready to lose, not almost all of it of your savings, put it in a crypto exchange, or if you put cryptocurrency and save it, it's better that you hold your private key or seed phrase, no one else.

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November 11, 2022, 05:51:02 AM
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There is no argument here i believe everyone operate based on their experience has far crypto wallet usage is concerned. If OP feels custodial wallet gives a better security and usefulness to coin then it is fine but hope there will be no future thread by same user condemning CEX in the future because it never always end the way it started something horrible will always come in to the picture

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November 11, 2022, 09:14:01 AM
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Exchangers are safe nowadays, especially Binance, we saw how they handled some hacks in the past. And banks are safe as well... after all, we trust them enough to hold funds there, to "lock" our funds for the interest we can receive by saving/staking/farming features.

But it's not like we should keep everything in the exchange or the bank, "don't put all your eggs in one basket" is an old saying. Something can happen and we can't stay without access to our funds, for all sorts of reasons. It's like that when a "third party" has control in their hands, and not you!

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November 11, 2022, 11:22:06 AM
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You are wrong but not totally wrong and you are correct but not totally correct. Some people are afraid to hold their funds by themselves. They have short memory to keep their keys well and they cannot protect their wallets from hackers. But to people who can take care of their private wallet, exchange is not the best place for them.
Some reputable exchanges refund and they have good security architecture. Binance is safe to certain level.
Generally speaking you cannot say that your money in another man's hand is safer than your money in your hand. It is not a nice thing to think about.
It seems to me that if you yourself can be responsible for your funds, then they will always be more securely protected. I don’t know, maybe some exchanges will return the stolen funds, but in any case, it will not be so easy and quickly. In addition, there will always be a possibility that the exchange will not return the stolen funds. So why create additional risks for your money?

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November 11, 2022, 12:37:27 PM
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Now a days, I believe that few exchange like binance, kucoin, hitbtc are better than banks and wallets. Some secure systems are given in the exchange which is good for us. Most important thing, you should secure your private key and your wallet password or pin code.


Congrats smart comment finallly here yes you say right thing binance are better then Banks many people transfer their wealth on binance becouse it's safer then Banks becouse binance Are the crypto Center
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November 11, 2022, 01:01:05 PM
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Not your keys, not your wallet, and most of all, that's the scariest part because you don't have any control of your funds no matter how reputable a certain exchange is. Hardware wallets and cold wallets are much safer in my opinion, because you hold your own keys and funds, I guarantee that's much better and will let you sleep at night more peaceful.
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