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November 16, 2022, 10:15:10 AM
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I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?

I'm doing this too but I input 3 words wrong in my recovery seed phrase so that only 3 words will I need instead of 12 and also as safety precaution in case my google drive is hacked. It will be difficult for a hacker to spot what's wrong in case he will try to use software to crack it. I really don't like the idea of writing it physically because I will not be comfortable when I'm away or there's a natural disaster hitting my country. I believe storing the part of it on our brain will make it safe to anything unless you die which is almost same if you written it on paper or online since your relative will never about it.

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November 16, 2022, 10:59:11 AM
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I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?

It seems like a bad joke that you have chosen for your nickname: "Not your key not your BTC"

No, it has already been explained to you. Move those funds from the cloud to cold storage ASAP if you don't want to lose them. I hope we are talking about low amounts, I can't imagine you have millions and are asking that question.
I tried /not your key not your bitcoin\ but too long. I own my bitcoin because have a key.
Many people said google and one drive ia very safe cloud in the world

I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?

I'm doing this too but I input 3 words wrong in my recovery seed phrase so that only 3 words will I need instead of 12 and also as safety precaution in case my google drive is hacked. It will be difficult for a hacker to spot what's wrong in case he will try to use software to crack it. I really don't like the idea of writing it physically because I will not be comfortable when I'm away or there's a natural disaster hitting my country. I believe storing the part of it on our brain will make it safe to anything unless you die which is almost same if you written it on paper or online since your relative will never about it.

You look very dangeours situation than me, if you lost 3 important word, you will cry loud than me. Are you keep that 3 another word on cloud too?
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November 16, 2022, 11:06:52 AM
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Many people said google and one drive ia very safe cloud in the world
Google is the most insecure and very low privacy search engine, those people are really dumb to say Google cloud is very safe lol. Using cloud is just like trusting to unknown person about your data or any files that you upload to cloud. In Bitcoin, we're trying to get rid of trusting third party since trusting someone isn't enough, we need to verify them. Since we can't verify a human brain, we can only verify the code.
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November 16, 2022, 11:12:18 AM
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I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?
Avoid keeping your private key on anywhere that their is internet connection, make sure you secure your private key offline, anywhere that their is not internet connection, I think if you want to properly secure your your private key, make sure you get a metal steel and carve your private key on it, I think that's a nice way to secure your private key. lot's of people store their private key on their email address and other places online which can be hacked at any moment, we have to be careful and we don't have to secure our private key online.

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November 16, 2022, 11:27:03 AM
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I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?
I wouldn't say Google Drive is weak for security.  Because it will completely depend on you. Google Drive service is provided through an email.  When you save something to Google Drive you must have that email and whoever has that email will have access to your driver.  So unfortunately if your email gets hacked everything will be stolen from your drive.  And email hacking is a very common thing that happens many times, so I think it is better not to keep important documents, especially the backup or private keys of any wallet in Google Drive.  You can keep it offline on a paper note or pen drive, it will give you better security.


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November 16, 2022, 11:37:16 AM
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Trust Google? It's easier to write your keys on your wall, and it will be more secure.
OP, the bicycle has been around for a long time. It's not hard to just write it up on paper, engrave it on steel, and place it in different places. Why invent complexity? Everything connected to Google is connected to surveillance. One day, Google will die, and everything that it so diligently stores will die.

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November 16, 2022, 11:37:58 AM
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I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?
I wouldn't say Google Drive is weak for security.  Because it will completely depend on you. Google Drive service is provided through an email.  When you save something to Google Drive you must have that email and whoever has that email will have access to your driver.  So unfortunately if your email gets hacked everything will be stolen from your drive.  And email hacking is a very common thing that happens many times, so I think it is better not to keep important documents, especially the backup or private keys of any wallet in Google Drive.  You can keep it offline on a paper note or pen drive, it will give you better security.

You don't need to worry because my file have 2nd security by archived using winrar with strong password. doesn't just open
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November 16, 2022, 11:53:10 AM
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I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?
I wouldn't say Google Drive is weak for security.  Because it will completely depend on you. Google Drive service is provided through an email.  When you save something to Google Drive you must have that email and whoever has that email will have access to your driver.  So unfortunately if your email gets hacked everything will be stolen from your drive.  And email hacking is a very common thing that happens many times, so I think it is better not to keep important documents, especially the backup or private keys of any wallet in Google Drive.  You can keep it offline on a paper note or pen drive, it will give you better security.

You don't need to worry because my file have 2nd security by archived using winrar with strong password. doesn't just open
If you can keep it with enough security then it is not a problem and keeping your documents in google drive is not a big problem but keeping the private key of cryptocurrencies online is not very advisable because in return if you have the private key then the crypto is yours but If it goes to a second person, then that person can easily steal that crypto, so you must should be careful of them . Since your name is Not your key not your BTC , I think you understand everything


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I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?

I got hacked few months ago. I used the EVERNOTE online notepad to keep a backup of my wallet's phrase key. Few days later, every transaction i send to my wallet get's directly sent out to some other wallet address. There's no way to recover that account. I have tried many way to recover it and done many things.
I was trying to find the main reason and how they hacked my wallet.
so i saved another wallet's phrase key in Evernote again and waited.
to my surprise that one got hacked too.
Here's the wallet address for you to check out : 0x8E456599dB2429cFf0AC8f9d5b5aA29E7C921642 &  0xaE8e5e5263bc23D84794FbDeb6e1ea00D106b7cA     
Scan it on ether scan polygon scan and other to see how it's happening.

So from my experience, never save your secret key in online storage. make multiple offline hardware copy and save them in different places.

One way i was able to avoid getting hacked while saving it in online was to scatter the word and add some random words which you will remember wasn't there. Or you can create a sequence of numbers or a pattern and scatter them in that order so you can re assemble them using that patter.

But offline is 90% recommended.






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November 16, 2022, 12:42:50 PM
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I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?
It is everyone's concern about the safety of our funds and it was highly advisable also not to put our money in any online wallets unless it is necessary but to not takes so long to stay there. If you are the one who is afraid of losing your money, then make sure that your coins ins your full control, not someone else.

There are a lot of stories and claims in regard to losing their money in exchanges and online wallets. We should anticipate the possible hacks, we never know who is their target.

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November 16, 2022, 12:45:24 PM
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Get your wallet files off the cloud

There have been many sob stories of people coming to us and opening threads where they beg for any possible method they can possibly get their stolen BTC back, after someone had already downloaded their wallet file and cracked their password and stole the money. Do not become one of them.

Google Drive is not safe, they periodically sell out access to your data to various 3 letter agencies, who then proceed to get hacked and then people wonder why their crypto has suddenly disappeared.

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November 16, 2022, 12:53:34 PM
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Well it would be better to save it offline on cold wallets the issue of your keys been hacked especially if you are keeping slot of cryptocurrency

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November 16, 2022, 12:57:32 PM
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Always store all offline, any method of online storage is not secure, google or microsoft are top tech companies but there is no guarantee they are not hacked. Protect your own assets, do not trust any 3rd party, especially online storage, very vulnerable to hackers, viruses... attacks.


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A Ledger or Trezor hardware wallet, and write down the backup on a piece of paper(or 2, and store it on 2 different locations). That's it. Don't try to complicate things.
I wouldn't recommend to backup the seeds phrase on a paper because it can be easily destroyed by fire or water, also when you hold for a long time usually you can miss few words from your written since the quality isn't same anymore. I'd recommend to backup using steel plates that resistant against fire, water, corrosion etc.

No method is absolutely safe, use it the way you think is best for you, the most important thing is how you preserve it. I write them down on paper in 3 different copies and I laminate them and give them to relatives to keep and store them in different places. Steel plate is fireproof, waterproof ... but in cases like natural disasters, floods that you can't bring them when you go on a business trip, there can still be risks.

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You don't need to worry because my file have 2nd security by archived using winrar with strong password. doesn't just open
Risks aren't just security vulnerabilities, but unforeseen accidents. You're handed the backup key over to a service that you have no control over. There's no limit to what you can do, but if you wanna follow cryptographic security standards, cloud storage isn't recommended anyway.

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November 16, 2022, 10:45:10 PM
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"Cloud" is someone else's computer. Whomever owns the cloud storage can read the data that the users store, and could be forced by law enforcement to share the data, or hackers could hack the service and steal the data. You can also be denied access to your data for some reason, or the service could suddenly close or lose data as a result of some accident. You can use strong encryption to reduce some of the risks, but still the risks remain. So using cloud as your only source of back up is a very bad idea, but if it's one out of many backups and its encrypted with strong cryptography, then it's more acceptable, but still not optimal.

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November 16, 2022, 11:25:29 PM
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I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?
Wayback when im still a noob which i had the bad habit on storing up my keys or phrases on my gmail account and save up on drafts which i do think that in case i had bust up my own pc then i could
always anytime able to restore it as long i do have the access of my email which im certainly wrong with that kind of idea in mind and its never been that worth on doing so.
This is why i have decided on deleted it out and decide to make up backs up 3 flashdrives which i do placed up on different locations which im the only one
whose aware on where it is.This do really gives out that having no worries if someone cant able to access your funds.

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I supposedly this thread's title translates to your coin, as your coin belongs with a wallet and your access to wallet is your private key or your seed phrase.

A passage of access (being key and seed phrase) in this regard becomes of utmost importance and should be protected with maximum security and hiding it in the clouds isn't one way to do that. You immediately put your wallet at risk by doing that. Let's not be mistaken, the clouds is relatively safe but, its very susceptible to hacks and one might get access to the mails for which, you might have used in set up, old devices used in accessing the platform and others then, you'll be sorry.

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I refrain from outting important informations in devices even on online platforms because it could be at risk of being accessed especially if I'd accidentally encounter phising sutes and like likes, without my awareness. Seedphases, passcodes and other important informations from my accounts were put into my personal booklet to get a hold of it literally. Atleast, if I'm gonna lost it, there's no other people to blame and that would save me from regrets somehow.
I keep my crypto folio on goodle drive and partial on one drive.
I read reminder news on top page and still doubt to keep staying or moving it.

what your thought?
Wayback when im still a noob which i had the bad habit on storing up my keys or phrases on my gmail account and save up on drafts which i do think that in case i had bust up my own pc then i could
always anytime able to restore it as long i do have the access of my email which im certainly wrong with that kind of idea in mind and its never been that worth on doing so.
This is why i have decided on deleted it out and decide to make up backs up 3 flashdrives which i do placed up on different locations which im the only one
whose aware on where it is.This do really gives out that having no worries if someone cant able to access your funds.
Well, we've all gone through that. Extreme negligence at first. But as long as we come across with cases involving consequences of such actions, we are all learning. This is also why topics of such really play a good part in this community. Even if sometimes it is as cliche as it may sound. Reminders are created for a purpose.

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November 17, 2022, 07:37:08 AM
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Many people said google and one drive ia very safe cloud in the world
Being safe doesn't mean your keys are safe in their servers. A lot of things could happen, a hacked could exploit something in their system and gain access to your cloud accounts and take your files out of there.
For example Yahoo mail was considered secure, they've been hacked multiple times over the past decade and users have lost a lot of personal information and money because of that, me included.

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Artem Sereda
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November 17, 2022, 10:06:50 AM
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Many people said google and one drive ia very safe cloud in the world
Google is the most insecure and very low privacy search engine, those people are really dumb to say Google cloud is very safe lol. Using cloud is just like trusting to unknown person about your data or any files that you upload to cloud. In Bitcoin, we're trying to get rid of trusting third party since trusting someone isn't enough, we need to verify them. Since we can't verify a human brain, we can only verify the code.

You're right, of course, but you're overly hating Google's security level. Data stored in the cloud is almost always encrypted. The cipher must be cracked before an attacker gains access to the information. The location of such encryption keys varies depending on the storage services.

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