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July 15, 2023, 10:27:09 PM
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I think Passport can sell wallets for cash if you live in United States, or you can get them delivered to Amazon lockers I think.
Another option is to buy hardware wallets at some bitcoin conference, and maybe you will find some additional discount.
They do accept cash but not physical cash - If you follow their checkout process there are only two options available to choose from:

Best option to pay for cash would be the one you've mentioned - in a Bitcoin conference - or, if unavailable, then choosing from their list of resellers[1]. While the chances are very low, the next Bitcoin conference that Foundation will attend will be in Spain[2] - Watch Out, Bitcoin[3].

[1]https://foundationdevices.com/resellers/
[2]https://nitter.it/FOUNDATIONdvcs/status/1680230828285083652
[3]https://wobitcoin.org/

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July 17, 2023, 03:48:01 PM
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since today there is the new passport 2.1.2 release, with the new update it is now possible to send your funds to taproot 'p2tr' address. everything else like which bug fixes and improvements are coming with the new release, you can see from the links below


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In version 2.1.2, we’ve leveraged all of the background work in recent versions to build out some amazing new features for you, including backporting v2.1 firmware to Founder’s Edition, sending to Taproot addresses, a Key Manager Extension for BIP 85 and Nostr key support and export, and BIP 85 SeedQR exports. Features, features everywhere.
https://foundationdevices.com/2023/05/passport-version-2-1-1-is-now-live/
https://github.com/Foundation-Devices/passport2/releases/tag/v2.1.2

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July 17, 2023, 07:19:43 PM
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since today there is the new passport 2.1.2 release, with the new update it is now possible to send your funds to taproot 'p2tr' address. everything else like which bug fixes and improvements are coming with the new release, you can see from the links below


As a matter of fact the taproot feature has been integrated into Passport since the release of v.2.1.0 firmware. New in  v.2.1.2 is that "the build is now "reproducible" again" meaning you can yourself "easily build and verify Passport firmware' from code found on Foundation's GitHub repository.


Nevertheless, thanks for informing on new release.

My Passport 2 runs v.2.1.0 and probably tomorrow I will update it.


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July 21, 2023, 12:15:00 PM
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I think that the only way that you could disguise your purchase would use a mix of actions:
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May I suggest an 'out of the box' Wink alternative?
I believe that you can buy Passports in-person using BTC at some Bitcoin conferences that Foundation Devices attend. If not, they should start offering this option..

Another (possibly illegal) solution: locate an inhabited house in a non-surveilled location (opposed to PO boxes that are often CCTV'd) and use this as delivery location. Either wait there at the day of delivery or instruct the driver to drop off the package & pick it up later. It's a method which has been used for illegal activities in the past, so it should be relatively secure.

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July 21, 2023, 02:48:07 PM
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I think that the only way that you could disguise your purchase would use a mix of actions:
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May I suggest an 'out of the box' Wink alternative?
I believe that you can buy Passports in-person using BTC at some Bitcoin conferences that Foundation Devices attend. If not, they should start offering this option..

Another (possibly illegal) solution: locate an inhabited house in a non-surveilled location (opposed to PO boxes that are often CCTV'd) and use this as delivery location. Either wait there at the day of delivery or instruct the driver to drop off the package & pick it up later. It's a method which has been used for illegal activities in the past, so it should be relatively secure.

Overall, I like that idea, and it does not sound illegal to me - to receive a package at a location that I am at, and either not using my real name or using a fictional name (if the shipper requires some kind of a name?)...

Also if the shipper is willing to ship without either KYC or with minimum KYC that gets removed from their system after a bit of time, that does not sound illegal either.

I am not necessarily wanting to get into any debates, but it seems incorrect to be suggesting that my desire to remain anonymous in receiving a package or the way that I pay for such package would be illegal (or should be illegal..and even if such a thing were to be illegal in some jurisdictions, it does not seem to be the kind of law that would be enforceable, except by tyrants)..

Also, even if such a service has been used to receive "illegal" items or to perform "illegal" products in the past, it seems to me that a signing device does not seem to fit into such a category of something that either is illegal (or should be illegal if some tyrant were to want to make it illegal merely because they do not like individuals having abilities to digitally transact and/or communicate information/value directly with each other and without a third party intermediator).

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July 21, 2023, 05:43:03 PM
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I am not necessarily wanting to get into any debates, but it seems incorrect to be suggesting that my desire to remain anonymous in receiving a package or the way that I pay for such package would be illegal (or should be illegal..and even if such a thing were to be illegal in some jurisdictions, it does not seem to be the kind of law that would be enforceable, except by tyrants)..
Sorry, I was not completely clear. What I was trying to say is that I can imagine it being illegal to ship to and / or step onto a property that is not yours (nor rented by you).

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I think that the only way that you could disguise your purchase would use a mix of actions:
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May I suggest an 'out of the box' Wink alternative?
I believe that you can buy Passports in-person using BTC at some Bitcoin conferences that Foundation Devices attend. If not, they should start offering this option..
You can indeed as per my previous reply[1]. The only downside that I see from this is that you're limited to your country of residence and how well is Bitcoin being adopted in there. You can, of course, decide to travel to attend the conference, but that would increase the costs of the device (indirectly). You can, however, book some vacations in Spain and then, coincidentally, be there in Bitcoin conference to buy their device Wink.

As for the more out of the box idea - sending it to a non habituated house or location - seems too much risky for me (I'm risk adverse). It could work, but the amount of workaround or precautions that you would have to take would be considerable.

[1]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421713.msg62555927#msg62555927

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