Boxing: Artur Beterbiev vs Anthony Yarde

[stadus]

I wouldn't actually say the Beterbiev dominated the rest of the fight, Yarde has some rounds under his belt and at the time of the stoppage he is ahead on points on 2 judges.

It's that that he is slowing down and getting tired as the fight goes on. Although he said that he is reserving his energy because he wanted the fight to go into distance so that he will have a chance. However, Beterbiev has other plans and just like that, one punch and changes the complexion and he secure a big victory in front of Yarde's home crowd.

Fair enough, Yarde isn't really turned into a free punching bag. He did great at the early rounds and Beterbiev even admits he feels those.

However, a champion is a champion and we clearly see that stamina plays a big role here. While Yarde is giving Beterbiev some hard punches, that wasn't able to keep up the entire fight. Beterbiev surely feels that those hard punches in the early rounds become lighter in the later rounds to the point that he can now withstand it even not in pure defense mode.

Beterbiev is really to the highest level and Yarde isn't the one who can bring this guy down.

Yarde did really well in fighting against Beterbiev and I admit that I'm surprised about his style against the champion because he really owned the first few rounds before he almost gassed out from all the effort he did because apart from doing offense, he still need to be keen about his defense as he could be sleeping on the canvass if he's not careful enough. But I guess that was Yarde's main and only option because I bet he knew that he can't keep up in the late rounds if he will wait for Beterbiev to adjust.

[Erumo]

You could say "Yarde did really well" only if he would win that fight. How can did well stand together with loosing? I can accept he did well if he would lose by decision, but he had lost by a knockout.

Yarde looked good in that fight coz Beterbiev allowed him to look good, while he was aiming his punches and searched for breaches in Yarde defence. Beterbievs fighting style is knocking people down. He is not a technician. Yarde or anyone else might lead in every round by two point, but it does not matter, coz the fight they will end with a flash.

Re-watch Beterbiev fights. His opponents were always "doing well", but they end with one more one in Beterbievs knockout record.

[LUCKMCFLY]

And it could he could larger and boost his psychology that he can defeat him because the fight is going to be in his country, so he has what we call homecourt advantage but not sure if this is true in boxing. So yeah, we will see if he has what it takes, I mean accepting it shows that he has big balls already, but facing him in the ring could be different for Yarde when he taste the first punch of Beterbiev.

Homecourt advantage, so is the home crowd, might really be an advantage but that was all useless if a boxer is really up against a tough opponent.

Artur Beterbiev is not new to pressure and seems won't really be affected much fighting against a crowd.

Yarde on the other hand should take advantage of any advantages in this fight. A boost of morale because of the crowd is a big help but that is nothing if he can't perform well in the actual fight.

It will be a struggle for Yarde finding that advantage because I'm sure that the 3-belt champion, Beterbiev, won't show any weakness in this fight that will make Yarde's journey much easier. I know that Beterbiev's not that perfect despite of his perfect record but somehow it's hard to believe that Yarde can truly make a difference.

I'm just under the impression that Yarde is saying this stuff and that because he wanted to market the fight and he wanted to show in front of his people that he is not afraid facing a boxer that is touted like a monster but I really doubt that he can stand his ground.

True, that's all he can do right now, since the fight is his backyard, he needs his fans to attend and watch the fight. So he is hyping and trying to sell it to them obviously so that they will get a lot of money thru live gate splits and PPV numbers.

But in any case, Beterbiev is too good for Yarde in my opinion. There is a disparity as far as power goes, and so we all know that he will be in a very tough situation in front of his crowd and then losing via knockout, hehehe.

Well, we cannot really blame the man if he is speaking big words as if he can really do it and prove that he's not all words. At least he will garner a big amount of money after the fight even if he's going to lose at the end of the day, I'm sure that deep inside he knew that his chances aren't that good. Anyway, fight schedule is already approaching and I'm still waiting for other betting options to open as the current odds aren't that great for us regular bettors.

I think that Yarde is going to win the most here, not only because of the money he will receive and he will be able to say many things, perhaps he says them to gain more fame and attention, but I honestly believe that things can be done in a more appropriate way for Both, if Yarde plans to do other things after this fight, I'm sure they will be given to him without much effort, I think it can be that way, however I know that Beterbiev is a boxer with a lot of experience who will not give up, much less give him away the fight is something that can be very scary for him, plus the majority of the world is biased that he will win.

Intersting:

Tommy Fletcher aims to extend KO C.V. on Beterbiev vs Yarde

“Mark has said before many times that I have got proper punch power,” reflected the 3-0 Fletcher, who next features on the undercard of the blockbuster Artur Beterbiev-Anthony Yarde unified world light heavyweight title card at the OVO Arena, Wembley on January 28, live on BT Sport.

“It is not hype, it is real and when people see statements like that they want to see proof of it. They won’t take anyone’s word for anything and I think I really showcased what I am about in that fight.

Source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/01/20/tommy-fletcher-aims-to-extend-ko-c-v-on-beterbiev-vs-yarde/

Not really biased because Beterbiev has also worked his way towards the top until he managed to possess 3 of the 4 belts availabl and that's why majority of the world are more inclined to see him win because his records speaks loudly and can vouch him for that. But yes, I do agree that Yarde can really have his way if ever he will be proclaimed as the winner here because defeating Beterbiev will really lift his name towards the top and people will start calling for a fight of unification versus Bivol, but that is if Yarde can actually do that and upset the heavy favorite.

Well, what about Bivol sounds excellent, I cannot deny that the Russian has a great level and that he is a very serious boxer, since he also responds with good results and is not playing games, he also has Canelo on edge, because he sees Canelo perhaps as the last option, however in this fight it could be key for him, if Spence in this case can lose, something that seems quite improbable for some, because it would be something new, all those fights that are pending in case he wins would fall, and The one who would have new offers to be able to stand out is Thurman, it seems to me that it is a great opportunity for him to be able to do something great.


Interesting:

Beterbiev-Bivol – When the best unbeaten forces collide who prevails?

Just over a week ago Artur Beterbiev and Anthony Yarde gave us one of the best world title fights we have seen for quite some time for the WBC, WBO and IBF world titles, rocking each other with heavy and constant barrages and setting a lightning pace in Wembley arena. In Yarde the 38 year old Russian found the toughest and trickiest opponent of his illustrious career but still managed to find a way to stop the London man in the 8th round.

Source: https://www.britishboxers.co.uk/2023/02/beterbiev-bivol-when-the-best-unbeaten-forces-collide-who-prevails/

[stadus]

~snip

For Bivol, I have no doubt against that man's dedication and talent because he is so humble that he just lets his performance wins do the talking for him. It's just too unfortunate for him because the pressure towards Russia is not yet lifted and fighters like Bivol are heavily affected even if they have nothing to do with war as that was their president's sole action. That's why now, there's a very high chance that the unification fight between Bivol and Beterbiev won't happen anytime sooner.

[mirakal]

~snip

For Bivol, I have no doubt against that man's dedication and talent because he is so humble that he just lets his performance wins do the talking for him. It's just too unfortunate for him because the pressure towards Russia is not yet lifted and fighters like Bivol are heavily affected even if they have nothing to do with war as that was their president's sole action. That's why now, there's a very high chance that the unification fight between Bivol and Beterbiev won't happen anytime sooner.

Yes, that is really likely to happen in this supposed bout because there is still a tension up North where Russia is not yet done invading Ukraine. But there is still an option for Bivol right? It says in the news that he can still convince the governing bodies to approve their fight as long as he will change his citizenship. Now, I know it sounds simple but what's the use of his current citizenship if it's blocking his way towards greatness.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Well Beterbiev is a world class boxer, like many I thought Yarde was going to give more, I don't know if he overtrained, but when I saw him do his combinations he didn't look so good, like something lost, however it was in those moments when Beterbiev brought out his full potential and defended everything, his reputation, his titles, he is a great boxer, this time the special boxing forums were really spot on with their predictions, this is something he likes and that could be better For a show of World class like this, now Beterbiev must prepare for new challenges, this is an appetizer for everything that comes his way.

~snip

For Bivol, I have no doubt against that man's dedication and talent because he is so humble that he just lets his performance wins do the talking for him. It's just too unfortunate for him because the pressure towards Russia is not yet lifted and fighters like Bivol are heavily affected even if they have nothing to do with war as that was their president's sole action. That's why now, there's a very high chance that the unification fight between Bivol and Beterbiev won't happen anytime sooner.

Yes, that is really likely to happen in this supposed bout because there is still a tension up North where Russia is not yet done invading Ukraine. But there is still an option for Bivol right? It says in the news that he can still convince the governing bodies to approve their fight as long as he will change his citizenship. Now, I know it sounds simple but what's the use of his current citizenship if it's blocking his way towards greatness.

This is already something that I don't like at all, it's not his fault for being born in Russia, nor are the Russians to blame for what Putin does, these things that have to do with politics are what have always seemed dirty to him . I, because they shouldn't tarnish the sport, honestly for me in a sport if I take into account if they are from other countries, because they are new cultures, other ways of thinking, but we shouldn't rate some so badly for that fact, neither should they. They can force you to change your nationality, everything is done to please politicians who don't even go out to fight, they just send young people to fight for no reason. That's why when these things happen they damage shows and even more so boxing, which is a very large business model. Bivol is a boxer like everyone else, nationality is what identifies him, nothing more.

and now:

Dmitry Bivol back in gym training: Will it be Canelo or Beterbiev?

By Craig Daly: Dmitry Bivol is back in the gym training for his next fight in April or May against an opponent still to be determined. Unless Bivol has someone else in mind for his next fight, such as Eddie Hearn’s fighter, Joshua Buatsi, he might end up sitting idle until late summer. The critical question is, who will it be? WBA light heavyweight champion Bivol (21-0, 11 KOs) wants to fight IBF, WBC & WBO champion Artur Beterbiev for the undisputed 175-lb championship next. Still, he’s not going to be available because he’s got Ramadan, and he has a bad cut that is healing from his recent title defense against Anthony Yarde. Canelo Alvarez has made it known that he wants a rematch with Bivol to avenge his loss from last May, but the Mexican star is thought to be taking a tune-up fight in May to test out his surgically repaired left wrist.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/02/dmitry-bivol-back-in-gym-training-will-it-be-canelo-or-beterbiev/

[btc_angela]

^^ It's good that he is back in the gym, boxers need to really try and keep their body moving so to speak. So that if a fight presented itself, then they can go full steam ahead of that training and go 100% on it.

As for his next fight, I doubt that it will be Canelo. Alvarez is still undergoing rehab and there are news that he will fight Ryder next in his next fight. Beterbiev shows intention, but still up to Bob Arum. So it might be Joshua Buatsi, maybe this is just a get busy fight for Bivol, just make him active and not have a long layoff.

[stadus]

^^ It's good that he is back in the gym, boxers need to really try and keep their body moving so to speak. So that if a fight presented itself, then they can go full steam ahead of that training and go 100% on it.

As for his next fight, I doubt that it will be Canelo. Alvarez is still undergoing rehab and there are news that he will fight Ryder next in his next fight. Beterbiev shows intention, but still up to Bob Arum. So it might be Joshua Buatsi, maybe this is just a get busy fight for Bivol, just make him active and not have a long layoff.

Even if the opponent is not yet determined, boxers are already expected to make their own preparations and trainings to get their bodies in shape as they already have a schedule and before going into a much extensive preparation where the opponent is already known. For Canelo Alvarez, we may get another news from him in the next couple of months after his tune-up fight with Ryder, after that, I guess there will be another evaluation to see if his wrist is ready for chasing title fights with heavy opponents.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I believe Bivol would win if the fight will happen. I saw the weakness of Beterbiev in this fight, it's just unfortunate that Yarde was not able to capitalize on his advantage, if he was good, then most likely Beterbiev will struggle due to a big cut above his eye. I know that Beterbiev has powerful punches, but I believe in terms of strategy, Bivol has the edge.

Beterbiev have slowed down maybe because of his age but the power is still there, no doubt about that but against Bivol who is so very disciplined on his defense i think he may struggle but let us see if the unification will happen because as what they said in boxing that "you have a very good game plan but that will change once you will be hit with power punches".

The good thing about on Beterbiev's promoter is that they were already saying and hoping that Bivol's promoter will sit down with them to discuss this huge fight in the LHW division that all of us is wanting to see while they are still in their prime.

BTW, congrats to those who bet that this will end via KO on round 8.

Beterbiev shows intention that he is willing to fight his compatriot for all the belts in LHW. The only obstacles is obviously the Arum vs Hearn negotiations. Although he have fights before and cooperate with each other, not sure if Arum is willing this time specially if they are going as who will be the A side in this fight.

And Bivol also targeting Canelo for a rematch either 168 or 175, so this fight might have to wait then as this will be Bivol's priority for sure. And if he won against Canelo again then go for the unification, that will be the perfect scenario.

Well, Beterbiev has shown that he still has power and that he is willing to have all kinds of challenges, that is something obvious, but now, if we start to think that they can do something, how could we think that he can face his share of the ball, we will Bivol is something that we will see, I know that this fight must happen, but read the truth, I see Bivol very reluctant, he does not want that fight, it annoys him to see Canelo again, I think he will comply only because of that clause, but rather In another case, I think he would not accept another fight with Canelo and I think it is because of his way of being that does not fit with what Bivol is looking for.

More about Canelo vsd Beterbiev:

Eddie Hearn: "Canelo vs. Beterbiev Is A Helluva Fight"

Artur Beterbiev thoroughly enjoyed soaking his gloves in the blood of Anthony Yarde this past weekend. Although he fought courageously, the 31-year-old contender succumbed to the pernicious knockout power of the unified champion.

As Beterbiev stopped and posed for pictures while holding onto his three light heavyweight straps, promoter Eddie Hearn stood motionless in awe. Impressive, amongst a bevy of words in Hearn’s view, first came to mind.

Presently, the current head honcho of Matchroom Boxing has no promotional ties to the newly turned 38-year-old. Nevertheless, that didn't stop him from fantasizing about a certain high-stakes showdown that would deliver in the most violent of ways. 

“Canelo vs. Beterbiev is a helluva fight,” said Hearn to BoxingScene.com. “That’s a bloodbath.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-canelo-vs-beterbiev-helluva-fight--172365

[mirakal]

Well Beterbiev is a world class boxer, like many I thought Yarde was going to give more, I don't know if he overtrained, but when I saw him do his combinations he didn't look so good, like something lost, however it was in those moments when Beterbiev brought out his full potential and defended everything, his reputation, his titles, he is a great boxer, this time the special boxing forums were really spot on with their predictions, this is something he likes and that could be better For a show of World class like this, now Beterbiev must prepare for new challenges, this is an appetizer for everything that comes his way.

~snip

For Bivol, I have no doubt against that man's dedication and talent because he is so humble that he just lets his performance wins do the talking for him. It's just too unfortunate for him because the pressure towards Russia is not yet lifted and fighters like Bivol are heavily affected even if they have nothing to do with war as that was their president's sole action. That's why now, there's a very high chance that the unification fight between Bivol and Beterbiev won't happen anytime sooner.

Yes, that is really likely to happen in this supposed bout because there is still a tension up North where Russia is not yet done invading Ukraine. But there is still an option for Bivol right? It says in the news that he can still convince the governing bodies to approve their fight as long as he will change his citizenship. Now, I know it sounds simple but what's the use of his current citizenship if it's blocking his way towards greatness.

This is already something that I don't like at all, it's not his fault for being born in Russia, nor are the Russians to blame for what Putin does, these things that have to do with politics are what have always seemed dirty to him . I, because they shouldn't tarnish the sport, honestly for me in a sport if I take into account if they are from other countries, because they are new cultures, other ways of thinking, but we shouldn't rate some so badly for that fact, neither should they. They can force you to change your nationality, everything is done to please politicians who don't even go out to fight, they just send young people to fight for no reason. That's why when these things happen they damage shows and even more so boxing, which is a very large business model. Bivol is a boxer like everyone else, nationality is what identifies him, nothing more.

and now:

Dmitry Bivol back in gym training: Will it be Canelo or Beterbiev?

By Craig Daly: Dmitry Bivol is back in the gym training for his next fight in April or May against an opponent still to be determined. Unless Bivol has someone else in mind for his next fight, such as Eddie Hearn’s fighter, Joshua Buatsi, he might end up sitting idle until late summer. The critical question is, who will it be? WBA light heavyweight champion Bivol (21-0, 11 KOs) wants to fight IBF, WBC & WBO champion Artur Beterbiev for the undisputed 175-lb championship next. Still, he’s not going to be available because he’s got Ramadan, and he has a bad cut that is healing from his recent title defense against Anthony Yarde. Canelo Alvarez has made it known that he wants a rematch with Bivol to avenge his loss from last May, but the Mexican star is thought to be taking a tune-up fight in May to test out his surgically repaired left wrist.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/02/dmitry-bivol-back-in-gym-training-will-it-be-canelo-or-beterbiev/

That just shows how unfortunate these boxers are because even if they are getting paid Millions of dollars in every fight, the fact is still the same, they are still under a master puppeteer who controls the situation and even their fate are somehow given as they have almost no control about their career. And speaking of Millions paid for the boxers, I wonder if Bivol already got his share for fighting Canelo Alvarez. Last time I heard was he wasn't given yet because the fight has happened in the US soil and the war should cease first before he can get his share and that is also why Bivol fought Gilberto Ramirez in the Middle East because in that soil, he can cash his share.

[stadus]

More about Canelo vsd Beterbiev:

Eddie Hearn: "Canelo vs. Beterbiev Is A Helluva Fight"


Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-canelo-vs-beterbiev-helluva-fight--172365

This bout is good but honestly, this will be too much for Canelo and it sounds impossible too as Canelo already have a packed schedule with no certain dates when will he fight the boxers that are already queued for him. First is Canelo will fight Ryder in a tune-up fight to see how his wrist will react the enormous pressures given in a fight and then, he also has Bivol or the winner of Caleb-Benavidez fight. Adding Beterbiev? I don't think Canelo can seriously battle that beast as we already saw how Canelo performs against a natural LHW.

[Baofeng]

I think it's better for Beterbiev to fight Bivol first before hunting down Canelo. Career wise, it's a better move since he will be going for the unification fight as Bivol has the only belt that is not in his position.

But then again, there is one stumbling block here which is the two parties have different network affiliations, Beterbiev and Top Rank are in ESPN, while Match Room and Bivol is tag with DAZN.

So that will be the biggest issues with Bivol/Canelo/Hearn vs Beterbiev/Arum.

[btc_angela]

I think it's better for Beterbiev to fight Bivol first before hunting down Canelo. Career wise, it's a better move since he will be going for the unification fight as Bivol has the only belt that is not in his position.

But then again, there is one stumbling block here which is the two parties have different network affiliations, Beterbiev and Top Rank are in ESPN, while Match Room and Bivol is tag with DAZN.

So that will be the biggest issues with Bivol/Canelo/Hearn vs Beterbiev/Arum.

Hopefully they can settle down, I think Hearn and Arum has work before in the past and maybe they could settle on this own, let it be in ESPN for me, I think it has more coverage as it is already a established name not just in boxing but in any sports.

And then have Hearn cover the PPV/live gates or even the split of the purse.

At least in the middle so that we will see a unification in the Light Heavyweight. I don't know when is the last time that we have a unified champion in this division.

[Kemarit]

I think it's better for Beterbiev to fight Bivol first before hunting down Canelo. Career wise, it's a better move since he will be going for the unification fight as Bivol has the only belt that is not in his position.

But then again, there is one stumbling block here which is the two parties have different network affiliations, Beterbiev and Top Rank are in ESPN, while Match Room and Bivol is tag with DAZN.

So that will be the biggest issues with Bivol/Canelo/Hearn vs Beterbiev/Arum.

Hopefully they can settle down, I think Hearn and Arum has work before in the past and maybe they could settle on this own, let it be in ESPN for me, I think it has more coverage as it is already a established name not just in boxing but in any sports.

And then have Hearn cover the PPV/live gates or even the split of the purse.

At least in the middle so that we will see a unification in the Light Heavyweight. I don't know when is the last time that we have a unified champion in this division.

They could make arrangement like that, but the thing is that Beterbiev has 3 of the belts and I would say that he will be the A-side in the negotiations if ever they pursuit this fight, all Russians, although it's more of the issue with Bivol because there were news that his money was put on hold when he beat Canelo because of the pressures of the Russian invasion against Ukraine. As for Beterbiev, he has been living in Canada already prior to the war.

But in any case, fans wanted to see all Russian fight for all the belts in the LHW.

And both fighters have shown intention already specially Beterbiev because that is one belt that he needs to become of the best LHW in this generation.

[Kasabus]

I think it's better for Beterbiev to fight Bivol first before hunting down Canelo. Career wise, it's a better move since he will be going for the unification fight as Bivol has the only belt that is not in his position.

But then again, there is one stumbling block here which is the two parties have different network affiliations, Beterbiev and Top Rank are in ESPN, while Match Room and Bivol is tag with DAZN.

So that will be the biggest issues with Bivol/Canelo/Hearn vs Beterbiev/Arum.

Hopefully they can settle down, I think Hearn and Arum has work before in the past and maybe they could settle on this own, let it be in ESPN for me, I think it has more coverage as it is already a established name not just in boxing but in any sports.

And then have Hearn cover the PPV/live gates or even the split of the purse.

At least in the middle so that we will see a unification in the Light Heavyweight. I don't know when is the last time that we have a unified champion in this division.

They could make arrangement like that, but the thing is that Beterbiev has 3 of the belts and I would say that he will be the A-side in the negotiations if ever they pursuit this fight, all Russians, although it's more of the issue with Bivol because there were news that his money was put on hold when he beat Canelo because of the pressures of the Russian invasion against Ukraine. As for Beterbiev, he has been living in Canada already prior to the war.

But in any case, fans wanted to see all Russian fight for all the belts in the LHW.

And both fighters have shown intention already specially Beterbiev because that is one belt that he needs to become of the best LHW in this generation.

Eddi Hearn shouldn't budge in and demand like he and Bivol is the A-side, just let Bob Arum handle things differently because ESPN is much more established and has more affiliate than Hearn and besides, Bob Arum and Beterbiev is on the A-side because they have much to offer as his boxer is the unified 3-belt champion of the Light-heavyweight division. Bob has said before that this fight has no struggles if he will organize it.

But then again, here comes the UN pressuring all Russian athletes even if they have no direct connection with Putin's invasion towards Ukraine. Why couldn't they let the entertainment industry have their own way Now, the governing bodies want Beterbiev to fight Callum Smith instead of Bivol just because of the issue.

[inthelongrun]

You could say "Yarde did really well" only if he would win that fight. How can did well stand together with loosing? I can accept he did well if he would lose by decision, but he had lost by a knockout.

Yarde looked good in that fight coz Beterbiev allowed him to look good, while he was aiming his punches and searched for breaches in Yarde defence. Beterbievs fighting style is knocking people down. He is not a technician. Yarde or anyone else might lead in every round by two point, but it does not matter, coz the fight they will end with a flash.

Re-watch Beterbiev fights. His opponents were always "doing well", but they end with one more one in Beterbievs knockout record.

I think Beterbiev is a technician too. I doubt straightforward fighters can qualify for the Olympics without skills and brains. And Beterbiev had a 1-2 trilogy with Usyk which means something. It's just that Beterbiev is an aging fighter which is why his speed, reflexes, and strength are not the same anymore. Power is a gift though so it won't leave and once Beterbiev connects, his opponents will either do survival modes or go for broke and Yarde chose the latter. Many say Yarde did well because he was able to catch Beterbiev with his own powerful hooks. But I agree with you. Yarde is not really built for greatness. Huge muscles limit his stamina but since he is gifted with power too, he might be able to become a champion soon if he avoids Bivol who's still young and might continue to stay in this division.

Thank you everyone for participating in this discussion. I am locking this thread now and let us focus more on the scheduled upcoming fights.