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November 20, 2022, 12:10:17 PM
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I have a question that i always ask myself, in case bitcoin has an error or a possible improvement who would correct it?
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November 20, 2022, 12:29:28 PM
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You can read about bitcoin improvement proposal. It has been used for error fixing and improvements in the past with each beginning from a proposal.

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Literally anyone.

There is an error related problem? Someone can post the issue directly, and if they have programming skills, they can fix it by themselves and then request to make the fix getting merged into the main bitcoin codebase.

So does improvement, anyone can straightly suggest an improvement on this forum or anywhere within bitcoin-related discussion places, for example, as listed on https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/discussion-forums.html. One of the Bitcointalk members also discussed their improvement proposal here.

At the end of the day, the fix or improvement request will be thoroughly reviewed by the community.

For an explanation of how the process works, refer to "Decision Making" Process, and read until "Finding Reviewers".
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November 20, 2022, 03:12:53 PM
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I have a question that i always ask myself, in case bitcoin has an error or a possible improvement who would correct it?
I think everyone. Its an open source so anything that could improve the bitcoin network could do that. A lot of developers are open for suggestion and proposals. There are lots of things to do but this will be a good quorum to check out whats best for bitcoin.

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November 21, 2022, 03:29:36 AM
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I have a question that i always ask myself, in case bitcoin has an error or a possible improvement who would correct it?
As many have already correctly pointed out, in the case of open-source software, any skilled programmer can present their version of a fix to a newly-discovered bug or error by making a pull request. But you don't have to be a skilled programmer or a person able to read and understand code to find a bug in the software. If, upon interacting with bitcoin, you encounter a problem never before seen, you can open an issue on GitHub or a similar platform, where you will describe an error and all the steps that lead to that error. This way, you can help developers to find a solution to the problem. It is also important to note that some errors in bitcoin cannot be fixed except through making a hardfork, that is, making bitcoin incompatible with current nodes' software. This kind of bug remains unfixed because their fix may be more harmful than the errors themselves.

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First lets clarify the difference between Bitcoin protocol and Bitcoin software.

There are lots of Bitcoin softwares like bitcoin core, Electrum, Trezor (firmware), bitaddress,... These tools can have bugs and errors. Since they are open source anybody can find the bug and fix it and then share it with the community, otherwise you have to report it to the developers of that software to get them to fix it.

The Bitcoin protocol on the other hand is just a set of rules, they don't have "errors" as you put it. It can have security flaws but since the protocol is old and is rigorously reviewed and tested it does not have any security flaws. But if any were to be found they have to be reported only to the reference implementation team (bitcoin core) to be discussed and fixed appropriately similar to how the new features are added.

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This is a very interesting question, which the developer are the one can answer it correct, but in other hand bitcoin platform has been created in a way that no one can interrupt, or fixed by someone, which has already programmed in advance.

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December 30, 2022, 12:02:48 AM
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I have a question that i always ask myself, in case bitcoin has an error or a possible improvement who would correct it?
The answer is that "we all" correct it. While it may be a single developer that submits new code, it is up to the bitcoin nodes to decide to actually run the new code.

That's one of the most beautiful things about Bitcoin. We don't rely on anybody. We rely on everybody.

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I have a question that i always ask myself, in case bitcoin has an error or a possible improvement who would correct it?
The answer is that "we all" correct it. While it may be a single developer that submits new code, it is up to the bitcoin nodes to decide to actually run the new code.

That's one of the most beautiful things about Bitcoin. We don't rely on anybody. We rely on everybody.

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While other forum users has said that anyone can come in to it, literally yes, any can but specifically there are bitcoin technicians who participates in the variable roles as bitcoin is developed so it's proposed to stakeholders such that bitcoin is entangled around miners playing vital role to facilitate on the flexibility and productive networks on bitcoin as a blockchain.
It also depends what nature the error could be by which the adoptors who're the bitcoin enthusiasts can also be a part to level the staggers as error to stabilize it if it's such a volatile issues.
That's basically why anyone and everyone in relative to bitcoin has impacts on bitcoin industry.

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I have a question that i always ask myself, in case bitcoin has an error or a possible improvement who would correct it?
I guess BTC team will be in the right position to correct such errors, if there is any challenges in BTC because there are team behind BTC to ensure BTC continues to remain the king among other cryptocurrencies, which is what people are experiencing from BTC all over the world today.

You can see there is an improvement in BTC, that is making some countries to make it legal tender to improve their economics because there are some team behind the improvements of BTC to ensure the efforts of the founder of BTC will not be in vain.

I believe you are clear with the question,  you don't need to worry about errors because I don't think there will be errors in BTC because everything about BTC is working well in my own observation.

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First lets clarify the difference between Bitcoin protocol and Bitcoin software.

There are lots of Bitcoin softwares like bitcoin core, Electrum, Trezor (firmware), bitaddress,... These tools can have bugs and errors. Since they are open source anybody can find the bug and fix it and then share it with the community, otherwise you have to report it to the developers of that software to get them to fix it.

The Bitcoin protocol on the other hand is just a set of rules, they don't have "errors" as you put it.

It's actually not that cut-and-dry. Here is an interesting bug in the Bitcoin protocol that has been around since the beginning.

As you may already know, the difficulty adjustment is 1263600 (2016 x 10 x 60) seconds divided by the duration of the last 2016 blocks. However, that's not how it actually works. In reality, the difficulty adjustment is implemented as 1263600 (2016 x 10 x 60) seconds divided by the duration of the last 2015 blocks. That is a bug because it doesn't match the design or the intention.

Now, you can argue that it is a bug in the software and not the protocol, but it is present in all node software, and more importantly, a hard fork will be necessary to fix it. So, it is really a bug in the protocol.

FYI, this bug will probably never be fixed because the effect of the bug is trivial (10.005 minute blocks) and a hard fork would be necessary.

Also, note that most Bitcoin developers consider Bitcoin Core to be "The Bitcoin Protocol", further blurring the distinction between the software and the protocol. If a piece of software is not compatible with Bitcoin Core, it is not following the protocol.

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Anyone can see something not perfect in Bitcoin, sit down and code but to change Bitcoin protocol, that Bitcoin Improvement Proposal will need to be voted by Bitcoin miners, Bitcoin nodes.

This shows decentralization of Bitcoin project, its protocol, blockchain can not be changed by a single person. Nowadays even Satoshi Nakamoto returns and want to change something, he can not do it only by himself.

The Blocksize War: The battle over who controls Bitcoin’s protocol rules is a good book for reading.

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Anyone can see something not perfect in Bitcoin, sit down and code but to change Bitcoin protocol, that Bitcoin Improvement Proposal will need to be voted by Bitcoin miners, Bitcoin nodes.

This shows decentralization of Bitcoin project, its protocol, blockchain can not be changed by a single person. Nowadays even Satoshi Nakamoto returns and want to change something, he can not do it only by himself.

The Blocksize War: The battle over who controls Bitcoin’s protocol rules is a good book for reading.

In regards to what you've just explained, you mean the majority of developers needs to agree on that idea or upgrade before it can be implemented?. Due to human natural way of opposition, what then happens if the proposal is rejected by the majority but the project seems helpful to the Bitcoin protocol?.

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In regards to what you've just explained, you mean the majority of developers needs to agree on that idea or upgrade before it can be implemented?. Due to human natural way of opposition, what then happens if the proposal is rejected by the majority but the project seems helpful to the Bitcoin protocol?.

I think the Developer Community will voluntarily analyze this for BTC for sure especially if problems are found before it is implemented to users on the Bitcoin network. Well, regarding complicated things / major changes, of course, for decision making also requires a little time to be right when run by users and beneficial for the Bitcoin protocol around the world.

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May 15, 2024, 07:03:33 AM
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Anyone can see something not perfect in Bitcoin, sit down and code but to change Bitcoin protocol, that Bitcoin Improvement Proposal will need to be voted by Bitcoin miners, Bitcoin nodes.

This shows decentralization of Bitcoin project, its protocol, blockchain can not be changed by a single person. Nowadays even Satoshi Nakamoto returns and want to change something, he can not do it only by himself.

The Blocksize War: The battle over who controls Bitcoin’s protocol rules is a good book for reading.
There's really so much more to Bitcoin than buy, hodl and sale, if any bitcoiner that wants to go further into it's technicalities, then it requires learning it like a course in a higher institution. I read the post of odolvlobo, and his calculations were totally new to me, despite my time in this forum, I keep learning new things everytime.

It's good that Bitcoin improvement proposals are put into a vote first by Bitcoin miners and nodes, this shows that it's truly decentralized, even if it's creator Satoshi Nakamoto, were to emerge now, he can't independent change anything that he feels is not perfect in Bitcoin.











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May 15, 2024, 12:10:32 PM
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In regards to what you've just explained, you mean the majority of developers needs to agree on that idea or upgrade before it can be implemented?. Due to human natural way of opposition, what then happens if the proposal is rejected by the majority but the project seems helpful to the Bitcoin protocol?.
It is not only developers but the Bitcoin community will play main role to vote and support or against a BIP.

There's really so much more to Bitcoin than buy, hodl and sale, if any bitcoiner that wants to go further into it's technicalities, then it requires learning it like a course in a higher institution.
Bitcoin is more than a Peer-to-Peer electronic cash. It is more than an investment asset because Bitcoin has many use cases and how a person uses it, it is personal choice and can be different a lot among us.

There are developers, who have deep knowledge about Bitcoin code lines and can code but there are people who only want to learn more technical things about Bitcoin, by curiosity or by intention to become Bitcoin developers in future. Or they just learn technically to understand more about Bitcoin, to build up their belief in Bitcoin.

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May 15, 2024, 11:21:34 PM
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You can read about bitcoin improvement proposal. It has been used for error fixing and improvements in the past with each beginning from a proposal.
We bring on our best targets to implement our targets, I know it's not easy but most projects are achievable. The beginning and the past are both different thing, we keep our hopes alive and tendering to channel focus to other sourced. Bitcoin have been up and running, we understand how broad the project have existed and dominated the space. We just have to become careful because the space is filled with potential risks which will definitely lead one from the right path.

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