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November 23, 2022, 01:39:48 PM
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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.


If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.

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November 23, 2022, 02:02:30 PM
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Well no, it doesn't work like that.

In money we have supply & demand.

If everybody bought the 2015 dip it would've immediately gone up, and once people stop or even slow down buying it, the price will tank back to original levels. This is what happened in 2017-2018 as well.

If demand is much higher than the supply then it creates a bubble, which will burst once the demand falls back to normal.

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November 23, 2022, 02:33:48 PM
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It is not as easy as it sounds. Buying at the early stage won't guarantee you profit. Why? How would you even hold your Bitcoin knowing that are many times it has reached its 'peak'. Won't you be tempted? Indeed there are people who managed to do so but keep in mind the some of those investors forgotten their asset so that won't count in my opinion. There are even stories such as the man who swapped Bitcoins to a box of pizza. That's how hopeless before for this industry. There are only few people who really seen the potential of this industry at its early age, 'coz if there are many, how come that only a few are holding huge amount of BTCs on their wallet and most of them are whales or simply rich in the first place.

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November 23, 2022, 03:08:55 PM
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If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.

It doesn't work that way. If a lot of people were buying, bitcoin would've went up too much too fast far before it would reach 50% population. It's not like 50% of the population can buy at 2015 prices without pushing the price up lol.

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November 23, 2022, 03:34:36 PM
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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.
At that time when bitcoin was close to three digit price in USD, people were buying but the exposure of bitcoin to the global population was limited and hence there were smaller booms in price. With gradual mainstream appearances of bitcoin we have seen the bigger price ranges to be achieved, which adds up.

Although the price going up made a lot of people regret their mistake of not buying at the low, not every country is lenient about crypto and if you live in one such, then you have no other option.

Again it is also true that someone who bought at say 500$/BTC, would defenitely sell at 10k$ without looking back. But if they bought back at lower price, then only they might have held to sell again at 20k$. What I mean is that many people have completely exit the market at much lower highs.

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November 23, 2022, 04:20:44 PM
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It is true what you have said, however it is not as simple as you have stated. People have seen the evolution of bitcoin over the years, but they are still hesitant to purchase it. People perceive things differently and are always afraid to take risks. Those who have the opportunity to acquire Bitcoin now will claim in ten years that if they had known, they would have bought some. So this is typical for folks; those who are interested will undoubtedly purchase now for later use.

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November 23, 2022, 04:24:14 PM
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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.

We still have time to invest though, sure there are a lot of skeptics way back, some of them regret selling or not even buying at that time. But we can't get it back right? the best thing to do is to continue and move forward, adapt and accumulate bitcoin if we wanted to be self made crypto millionaire. And for those who have made it, then for sure they will just continue what they are doing.


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November 23, 2022, 04:25:59 PM
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Well no, it doesn't work like that.

In money we have supply & demand.

If everybody bought the 2015 dip it would've immediately gone up, and once people stop or even slow down buying it, the price will tank back to original levels. This is what happened in 2017-2018 as well.

If demand is much higher than the supply then it creates a bubble, which will burst once the demand falls back to normal.

Reminds me few incidences throughout the world when bank had loop holes of financial circulating system. There were big players in the share market who bought shares worth millions of dollars, however there was big issue with this purchase - the money was "temporarily" taken from the bank. Ideally the broker had to send the money to next bank in exchange of Bank Receipt (BR), but it had a timeline (30-45 days). By that time many of these traders used this money to trade into the market and once they made the profit they used to return the money and exchange the BR.

However, market was getting pumped due to "virtual" buys since big bulls made the buzz with temporary money. In reality, there was no money in the circulation. That created huge bubble. The economy crashed soon after this bubble was burst open!
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November 23, 2022, 04:35:24 PM
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It would have worked for early buyers, but those who bought lastly (on the peak) would have lost money, just like investors who bought during the peak in 2017 for $19,000 and had to wait until 2020-2021 to recover their investments. The problem in the mentioned situation by OP is that the impacts would be much deeper, since we are talking about 50% of world's population. Probably a hype like that couldn't be covered by future bull runs, meaning those who bought bitcoin lastly wouldn't be able to recover their initial investments in fiat number anymore...

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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.


If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.

I love research, please share you knowledge.

2015 The price of Bitcoin has been very low year.But no one knew Bitcoin would grow so much after 5 years no one thought. So no one else bought bitcoins. If you buy bitcoin now you can make big profit after 5 years.
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November 24, 2022, 07:48:11 AM
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If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.

I love research, please share you knowledge.
And where do you think all the whole money would have come from to make fifty percent of the world population millionaires by now? Or didn't you ever think about that? Because if I'm not mistaken, the total world population back then in 2015 was around 5 billion, of which we only had just 21 million Bitcoin in circulation, whereby not all was even mined by then. So a higher adoption would have only caused a drastic increase in price, just to enable the limited supply go round, and likewise a massive sell cause a decrease In price value too. But till this very date, I can proudly say that not up to half or 10% of the 8 billion world population today knows or owns a fraction of Bitcoin due to many reasons or laws safeguarding people living in different parts of the world.

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You know what's interesting, back when I started which was in 2014 people were saying the same thing! Imagining what would have happened if they had bought bitcoin in 2011 instead of buying it at $400 or when it crashed to $200.
Today you asking the same question is like history repeating itself. Even funnier is that in a couple of years people will be imagining what would have happened if they had bought bitcoin at $20000.

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November 24, 2022, 09:34:50 AM
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There is no model that makes half of the world's population rich, otherwise the definition of the word rich would be the next question. Now the price may be very cheap compared to the prices of 2050, so why didn't you invest everything you have in Bitcoin?
The same excuse will always be for that, so you will find the majority satisfied with observing from afar and wishing, and a few choose the adventure.
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November 24, 2022, 09:37:00 AM
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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.


If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.

I love research, please share you knowledge.

2015 The price of Bitcoin has been very low year.But no one knew Bitcoin would grow so much after 5 years no one thought. So no one else bought bitcoins. If you buy bitcoin now you can make big profit after 5 years.

No, a lot of people bought it that year, and they already predicted the price of bitcoin, just as we do right now. I've known bitcoin since 2016, but as a newcomer, I had second thoughts about buying a whole bitcoin at that time because the price was around $500, which is a huge amount to me; it's two months' salary at my job, so I only earn it from faucets. I have a lot of online friends who became millionaires, bought houses, and bought sports cars when it hit ATH last 2017 or in 2018. What I regret the most is that I squandered my bitcoins on frivolous purchases; if I had kept them, I'm sure I'd be wealthy right now.
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November 26, 2022, 07:52:59 AM
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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.


If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.

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It's always nice to bring the Bitcoin price into perspective by comparing 5 or 10 years ago to today. Even though BTC had a terrible year and is down 65% year to date, we are still up 50% over the last 5 years. Over the last several weeks the number of threads of people asking "is bitcoin going to survive" increased a lot, it feels a bit like people lost confidence in bitcoins. Looking at past prices should calm our nerves even if we didn't buy so cheap. There is clearly a longterm upwards trend in bitcoin. Also thinking back 5 years should help us to decide that it's a good time to buy right now, rather than wait for price to drop to unrealistic low levels. I don't think that the bitcoin price would be the same today if more people bought in 2015. If most people bought their Bitcoin for 400 USD back in the day, why would anybody be buying now at 16,000 USD or 60,000 USD one year ago? Bitcoin wasn't popular back then, which is where the price rise is coming from once all the new investor joined the crypto community.
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I have told this many times. There were a lot of people who had a few thousands of bitcoin back in the days. But does that mean they hold till now? There are a very few percentage of people who have hold all these days. They have become millionaire with a very small amount. But most of the early investor have sold their bitcoin with 10x, 100x, 1000x maybe. It's not easy to gain such huge return. People will be tempted to sell when they will have this huge return.

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November 26, 2022, 10:33:22 AM
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The price was only a few hundred dollars, but many thought that after Bitcoin hit $1k and fell, it would never go that high again. And investing in 2015, people would have to wait patiently for at least a year to see any profit and at least for two years to see major gains. Not selling at the first sign of improvement, not panic selling in 2018 later would have both been very difficult.
IMO, while the times of such low prices are over, there are still times when there's a great opportunity to buy Bitcoin. Such as right now, for instance, when the price is only a quarter of what it used to be, and given that with every bull market Bitcoin goes higher, that means it's reasonable to expect more than 4x profit in the next bull run if one invests now. And it can be more than that, I don't see why Bitcoin can't reach $160k, for example, bringing a 10x profit.

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If people had been buying bitcoins since 2015 and had never spent or sold bitcoins until late 2021 and they sold them at that time, they would be very rich because they managed to sell bitcoins when the price broke through the new ATH. But that's not the case for most people because they are trying to make a profit from time to time so they don't hold most of their bitcoins but trade them. Actually, it will depend on their strategy because surely people will keep holding their bitcoins and waiting for the bitcoin price to reach above 1 million. And now we still have time to collect more bitcoins because the price has not increased much.

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November 26, 2022, 11:42:18 AM
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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.


If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.

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I disagree with you. There are still a lot of people who knew about BTC since 2015, invested in it and yet didn't become millionaires.

Meanwhile, there are people who embrace it late, but have made millions within this very short time.

Many bought while it was still very low, and sold off after seeing a little thinking they have made a fortune,.only for them to realize that they made a huge mistake.

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Maybe within 7 years we will be able to say the same about 2022.  Imagine the condition of people today if they had invested on Bitcoin in 2022.

You know what, I think everyone who knew about Bitcoin had their chance and well done to the few who had a ton of trust and faith in Bitcoin's success to invest large amounts of money back in 2015.  We are currently in another historical drop and how many of us are purchasing Bitcoin versus how many are scared about it?

There will always be fear and panic because some investors do not understand how to assume risk.  You invest thousands into Bitcoin during a bull run because it gives you a quick buck, but then when it drops a little you run away?  Makes no sense, does it.  Some will never become Bitcoin millionaires even three decades from now, just because they can not handle risk and instead of using opportunities such as historical drops to invest, they just sell and vanish until the next bull season is out.

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This is true OP but back then in  2015, people didn't believe that bitcoin will survive till now while some persons didn't even have the knowledge or awareness of Bitcoin. As for those that invested then,they would have made much profit selling last year if they could hold till then.

Fifty percent of the world can't do the same thing at the same year and succeed i.e if 50% bought way back 2015 majority of them would have sold their bitcoin holdings before this year. Similarly, it is not all those that invested in bitcoin then were able to keep their coins till now some sold out of panic of the bear market and some sold based on excitement of the bull market,it takes only the bitcoin lovers to hold their investment. Making profit in bitcoin does not depend on the the time you first bought Bitcoin.

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November 26, 2022, 12:34:58 PM
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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.


If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.

I love research, please share you knowledge.

We are all there in that situation but could you trust things you don't know before? Maybe right now you can say that it can change the lives of the people because you are just counting the chicks while the eggs didn't hatch yet. But reality by that time no people would dare to invest because their doubts is valid since bitcoin is unknown at that time, since right now bitcoin is so successful then maybe its time for us who know about it take some action since maybe if we get lucky and bitcoin will still boom then possibly it can really change our lives for long period of time because opportunity is unlimited compare on outside world where traditional work gives us huge boundaries in terms of salary and positions.

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November 27, 2022, 01:30:13 AM
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some people think everyone sells when there is a ATH

but here is the thing. the reason an ATH stops going higher is there are no longer buyers willing to buy. meaning there is a lack of trading happening at the top

most escapers sell at a more reasonable amount of  75%ile range of a ATH, either too early on the run up or on the correction down

so lets assume this for a moment

2015 @$400 for 1 btc
turns into a sell in 2017 @75% of $20k ATH=$15k
turns into a buy 2018 $5.6k plateau = 2.67857142btc
turns into a sell at 2021 @75% of 70k($52500/btc)= $140,625

so from $400 to $140k in 7 years
without going to the extremes of timing the exact tops and bottoms




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November 27, 2022, 06:19:28 AM
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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.


If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.

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There is no need to imagine anything as things would not have happened that way, if so many people had invested in bitcoin so early then the price would have gone up way faster than the rate at which the price of bitcoin actually grew.

Also you are making the assumption that people would have bought at a low price and then still hold to these days, and this is not true, there are probably a lot of people which bought at the time and still lost money, and finally you talk about the great opportunity people missed by not buying bitcoin cheap, but buying bitcoin now still offers a massive opportunity for those which have enough capital and patience to hold their coins for a long period of time.
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November 27, 2022, 07:24:36 AM
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Well, that didn't happen, though. The price of Bitcoin went up, but then people started selling instead of HODLing. So instead of the price continuously going up, it went into a correction.

But it could still happen in the future. We only have to take cognizance of the fact that there are at least 8 billion people in the world and there are only more than 19 million Bitcoin in existence right now. You could even deduct a million or two from it because of those lost or forgotten coins. The point is that there's actually not enough Bitcoin for everybody.

If only people realize how precious it actually is and keep their coins, or even acquire more, instead of selling them, it could actually shoot to a million.

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Bitcoin would not work if people invest all at the same time. We need steady new investments and also people should not invest everything at once. With that there is steady growth and also people that invest now will benefit in a few years.
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You don't have to regret missing out on bitcoin in 2015, as I can assure you, you wouldn't be brave enough to buy bitcoin if you knew bitcoin at the time. Simply because you know the result today you feel regret but if you don't know then you will never buy it. Currently, investing in bitcoin is still considered very early because many people think that bitcoin can still hit the $1 million mark in the future. If you really regret missing your chance in 2015, you can correct your mistake now.

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November 27, 2022, 09:43:10 AM
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every time we experience these crypto winters we should mainly remember that bitcoin was created to be a currency.
So it must be spent at a certain point, it should be managed carefully, but it must be used precisely because it can be used to create value not only in a passive way
(even if hodl Grin it sure pays off, and isn't like hodl FIAT currency).

I think that the lesson is to use actively, likewise to make investments, create the economy etc etc.

If everyone hodl, the main feature of a coin would be missing.
Ok we would have a "scarce" monetary supply, but if you can't use it to pay/spend/exchange, and you have difficulty finding it on the market, it would have practically no advantage, no real usage.

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May the half of the worlds population became the millionaire if they ever know the value of the bitcoin in 2015 and investing in the bitcoin.
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I don't like to get stories about what I should have done and I didn't even know, I discovered bitcoin very late and it's something I didn't want, I didn't even have the resources to have acquired it, at that time I didn't have a computer or internet, in my country at that My age was thinking about other things, I was 16 years old, so my thoughts were not to have money but to study, I did not have an education that taught about economics or something similar, those things need to be taught to children from the time they are little so that they know What world do they have to face and be able to move towards a more developed world with more developed beings.

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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.
People miss opportunities all the time, all of us on this forum as well. It's to say years later "I should have bought that thing", but it's also pointless, there is nothing you can do about it. The people who should maybe feel a little bad about the missed opportunity are those who somehow knew about bitcoin but for reason decided it wasn't worth the risk. In that case probably the regret would be pretty big.

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If people had known Bitcoin will surge this  way almost fifty or more percent of world population would have become a millionaire.
You might as well imagine what opportunity might be missed in the next decade. It took over a decade and 2years for we to arrive at the price we've got today and it would certainly be better than we have it now in a few years which would define the opportunity that must have been missed this day.

It's the course of life, gained and missed opportunities. The excuses of yesterday won't be the excuses of today. There would be others generational excuses to replace those of previous years. Also, cryptocurrency doesn't make anyone millionaires but identifying opportunities and utilising it would.

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I think about a great opportunity people had miss when Bitcoin was still in a lower price, imagine how many people Bitcoin  would have made a millionaire, though by then most people were a bit skeptical about the growth of Bitcoin, if it has a good potential or save to invest.
People miss opportunities all the time, all of us on this forum as well. It's to say years later "I should have bought that thing", but it's also pointless, there is nothing you can do about it. The people who should maybe feel a little bad about the missed opportunity are those who somehow knew about bitcoin but for reason decided it wasn't worth the risk. In that case probably the regret would be pretty big.
Opportunity missed is missed. Thinking it now doesn't make sense. Now the focus should be upon the current market and the thinking should be, how to make the best. The market is completely over the demand to supply mechanism. So, a huge buying over the year 2015 could've made it have a much higher demand. This demand could've made the market to the top instantly or should've experienced a downfall at the shortest.

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