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June 29, 2021, 03:31:24 PM
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I'm still confused... if court has accepted that he's "Satoshi Nakamoto" or only his claim over whitepaper. What does this claim really mean?

no the court didn't accept he is Satoshi Nakamoto. the scammer went to court and made a claim, the court set a date and asked the other party (cobra) to attend. they didn't attend so automatically the court ruled in favor of the scammer.

this only means that cobra wanted to protect their privacy and didn't want to give the scammer the satisfaction of doxing them.

He is really trying hard to avoid the consequences if any after he exposes the identity. May be this itself is proof that he is Satoshi? How could the court be so dumb to proclaim a unstable and too baffling person to rule a favour of the court? That's really a underrated judgement by the jury. Or may be they were simply too ignorant and had under the table thingie going on. In any case Cobra is so stubborn that they are willing to pay that huge amount just to hide the identity. That's like a real man!
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June 30, 2021, 05:57:59 AM
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no the court didn't accept he is Satoshi Nakamoto. the scammer went to court and made a claim, the court set a date and asked the other party (cobra) to attend. they didn't attend so automatically the court ruled in favor of the scammer.
Cobra did attend

He is really trying hard to avoid the consequences if any after he exposes the identity. May be this itself is proof that he is Satoshi? How could the court be so dumb to proclaim a unstable and too baffling person to rule a favour of the court? That's really a underrated judgement by the jury. Or may be they were simply too ignorant and had under the table thingie going on. In any case Cobra is so stubborn that they are willing to pay that huge amount just to hide the identity. That's like a real man!
No one has ever insinuated Cobra is Satoshi. Privacy is important to loads of people, for various reasons.

I suggest for you to start doing some research on the judicial system in UK instead of undermining their integrity.

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June 30, 2021, 06:02:36 AM
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Cobra is Satoshi? 🤔

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June 30, 2021, 07:17:25 AM
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Cobra is Satoshi? 🤔
no, we all know theymos is Satoshi Wink

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June 30, 2021, 08:20:18 AM
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Like Cobra said, all the more reason to prove why Bitcoin is needed. I can't believe that clown is still forcing himself upon the community. Worse, I can't believe he actually has droves of supporters still crazy enough to fall for him.

Then again, I've seen enough of this world to know I should believe all that is happening.
Actually great that Cøbra lost this case because that means that his points about why we need bitcoin more than ever. Although it's a sad day for bitcoin with the whitepaper being taken down. The real problem in the case of people still believing in something like this is that people aren't informed and they are afraid of the truth so they want someone that can tell them sweet lies.

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June 30, 2021, 09:44:09 AM
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just wondering if there are legal loopholes

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IF ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS A DEFENDANT DISOBEYS THIS ORDER THAT INDIVIDUAL
MAY BE HELD TO BE IN CONTEMPT OF COURT AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY A FINE,
IMPRISONMENT, CONFISCATION OF ASSETS OR OTHER PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW
IF ANY A COMPANY OR OTHER ORGANISATION WHICH IS A DEFENDANT DISOBEYS
THIS ORDER THAT COMPANY OR ORGANISATION MAY BE HELD TO BE IN CONTEMPT
OF COURT AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY A FINE, CONFISCATION OF ASSETS OR OTHER
PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW. ANY DIRECTOR OR OFFICER OF THAT COMPANY OR
ORGANISATION MAY ALSO BE PUNISHED BY A FINE, IMPRISONMENT, CONFISCATION
OF ASSETS OR OTHER PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW

EG if court order is that "COBRA" cannot display it on his website bitcoin.org
what if a cough cough randomly created pseudonym cough..  took over ownership of bitcoin.org
(not revealing the human name behind a just thought up creation)

whereby the 'new owner' is not bound by the court order. and where the new 'ownership'  updates every month.. meaning CSW has to re-file every time 'ownership' changes

imagine it
next week its owned by venomousworm.
next month its owned by hissyhissywigglything
following month owned by sliverslivernolegs


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June 30, 2021, 11:16:31 AM
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whereby the 'new owner' is not bound by the court order. and where the new 'ownership'  updates every month.. meaning CSW has to re-file every time 'ownership' changes

Doesn't work like that, unfortunately. Once there is a final decision of the court against an infringement that caries weight no matter how many owners the website will change, the target is the paper and (if specified) the website, not the individual, the new owner will be only served an infringement claim by CSW lawyers and unless they will want to go to court and battle over the ownership of the bitcoin paper they will have to obey and remove it.
Sucks, it leads to situations where you're the owner of a new business and you realize that you must give up your name and brand as the previous owner hasn't informed you about everything, but that's what we have here. Imagine how torrent and filesharing websites would have tried to use this loophole if it actually existed.

There is only one way to settle those things once and for all, and it's what COPA is trying.

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June 30, 2021, 11:42:16 AM
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We should have something like IPFS.

https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/IPFS

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June 30, 2021, 11:59:14 AM
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I'm still confused... if court has accepted that he's "Satoshi Nakamoto" or only his claim over whitepaper. What does this claim really mean?
Another attempt to double or tripple FUD.

Craig Wright is not and will never be recognized as Bitcoin founder. Never. He was detected by many plagiarism attempts. It makes sense to wipe out any attempt from him or any governments that support Craig Wright.

Craig Wright Accused of Plagiarism Again. Cointelegraph is a shit online newspaper but you can dig more to find more researches about Craig Wright plagiarism.

Its crazy though that this Judge recognises e copyright of the whitepaper.
How did this Judge land at his decision? has he not done any research to back up
his claims of being Satoshi. TBH it just doesnt make any sense how Wright has got
so far with his "quest"


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June 30, 2021, 12:08:53 PM
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Since when was the whitepaper intellectual property? This judgement is beyond absurd.
Totally absurd. Faketoshi Wankamoto and a UK court. LOL

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June 30, 2021, 12:15:49 PM
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I'm still confused... if court has accepted that he's "Satoshi Nakamoto" or only his claim over whitepaper. What does this claim really mean?
Another attempt to double or tripple FUD.

Craig Wright is not and will never be recognized as Bitcoin founder. Never. He was detected by many plagiarism attempts. It makes sense to wipe out any attempt from him or any governments that support Craig Wright.

Craig Wright Accused of Plagiarism Again. Cointelegraph is a shit online newspaper but you can dig more to find more researches about Craig Wright plagiarism.

Its crazy though that this Judge recognises e copyright of the whitepaper.
How did this Judge land at his decision? has he not done any research to back up
his claims of being Satoshi. TBH it just doesnt make any sense how Wright has got
so far with his "quest"

I think Cobra didn't defend himself so it is like winning by default. But it is indeed a sad day for us. For all crypto enthusiasts, we all know that CSW is a fake one and not the real author of that whitepaper. But unfortunately, this winning may lead to confusion especially for newcomers in crypto. I hope they will educate themselves and know the real identity of CSW. I just hope, he would stop spreading more lies to the public.
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November 25, 2022, 06:01:23 PM
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<...> pay at least £35,000 ($48,600) in legal costs <...>
I thought that the ruling was kind of the end of the cases as is (was), but there must still be some trailing aspects going on behind the scenes in relation to the payment of the legal costs. Now, over a year later, the below linked article states that the High Court in London recently ruled that Cøbra needs to dox himself if he is to contest the payment of the legal costs he was condemned to pay in the 2021 sentence.

As far as I can see, Cøbra would need to reveal his identity (were he to contest the fees) because the defendants need to:
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<…> identify themselves in the manner indicated in the application notice.
It therefore seems that the self-doxing is derived from the need to provide his identity on a form, with no way around it.

The judge does point out though that:
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<…> should Cøbra not wish to unmask themselves, they can request anonymization. That, however, will not prevent the claimant from learning their name.
I figure that above means that there is a chance to anonymize information to outsiders (i.e. publicly published appeal results is my guess), though not to their opponents (Craig & Co.), which would have no trouble in making it public somehow I figure.

See: https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/11/25/bitcoinorgs-cobra-must-unmask-to-challenge-craig-wrights-legal-costs-uk-court-rules/
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easy fix
cobra is just a random pseudonym, no one knows the identity of

let one of the lawyers of cobra become the named party making a dispute of costs.

hire a homeless guy to be cobra for a day

EG there can be more then one cobra or no cobra at all. or everyone is cobra

change ownership of bitcoin.org to be now owned by cabro

(if SBF can swap CEO of an entity.. within a day.. so could cobra. put it into lawyers name temporarily to give lawyer power of attorney over "business dealings")

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