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December 01, 2022, 02:36:38 PM
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Russian billionaire Vyacheslav Taran was killed when the helicopter he was traveling in crashed near Monaco. Reports in Ukrainian media have previously alleged that Taran, who was co-founder of trading and investment platform Libertex and foreign exchange trading group Forex Club.

Just last week, the founder of Hong Kong-based digital asset company Amber Group Tiantian Kullander died suddenly in his sleep. The 30-year-old had built the company into a $3 billion ‘fintech unicorn.’

A month before Kullander’s death, MakerDAO developer and crypto millionaire Nikolai Mushegian apparently drowned in Puerto Rico.

Back in July 2021, the crypto industry was rocked by the news that controversial Romanian crypto billionaire Mircea Popescu — also known as ‘the father of bitcoin toxicity‘ — had drowned in Costa Rica.

More details - https://protos.com/russian-billionaire-latest-crypto-tycoon-to-die-mysteriously/
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December 01, 2022, 02:44:30 PM
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Various conspiracy theories aside — not sure what's so special about this? People die all the time of random causes, and yes — including billionaires.

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December 01, 2022, 02:45:26 PM
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I thought there was some stories about a person who had a lot of money in bitcoin and was "taken" by the bad guys and had to be rescued by Liam Neeson in a daring and dangerous mission Cheesy
It turned out to be sad but disappointing stories about random natural deaths...

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December 01, 2022, 02:52:12 PM
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Various conspiracy theories aside — not sure what's so special about this? People die all the time of random causes, and yes — including billionaires.

I wonder if there's a chance they all faked their death to escape their "fame" and live a life of decent luxury off some of their wealth (a few million $ is more than enough to comfortably live off and maintain an anonymity).

Dying in your sleep was a leading cause of death in the UK for the 20-40 age group until a few years ago iirc (unrelated to excess drugs or alcohol consumption - I think it accounted for about 1 in 100 000 20-40 year olds).



It didn't say where the plane crash landed though (unless I missed a citation). I could imagine it'd be easy to go completely missing in places like Russia and China if you have the funds to make it happen (or aren't liked by the regimes).
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December 01, 2022, 02:52:23 PM
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There's no written if the crypto billionaires death because of his mistake on crypto like he's invest in shitcoin and then rekt, criminals use $5 wrench attack to attack him, or something that about low privacy concern problem. I think there's many people dead are dangerous and there's no sign about the death, but since they're not a popular people, the journalist didn't aware with those people.

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December 01, 2022, 03:03:03 PM
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I wonder if there's a chance they all faked their death to escape their "fame" and live a life of decent luxury off some of their wealth (a few million $ is more than enough to comfortably live off and maintain an anonymity).

Dying in your sleep was a leading cause of death in the UK for the 20-40 age group until a few years ago iirc (unrelated to excess drugs or alcohol consumption - I think it accounted for about 1 in 100 000 20-40 year olds).



It didn't say where the plane crash landed though (unless I missed a citation). I could imagine it'd be easy to go completely missing in places like Russia and China if you have the funds to make it happen (or aren't liked by the regimes).


Some of these "deaths" can definitely be very fishy depending on what situation they're in before their "deaths", but yea — in the end we're just speculating without much facts to back up the theories.

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December 01, 2022, 03:17:16 PM
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We frequently hear about billionaires being killed. So whether they use cryptocurrency or not. I literally can not think of any crypto-related reasons for killing missions. They are being targeted by criminals. It is not necessary that they use cryptocurrency. Criminals are everywhere, and they frequently seek out crime. So I'm curious why only crypto billionaires will be at danger.

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December 01, 2022, 03:18:28 PM
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Various conspiracy theories aside — not sure what's so special about this? People die all the time of random causes, and yes — including billionaires.

As a billionaire, you can't have a normal death, no matter how you die people will always find fault with something and claim it was a set-up.

A few years ago I was at a party with a few of my old colleagues and friends all happening at our host's father who is the local representative for the leading party, everyone was having a fun time, dancing and so on, he managed to step on the dress of his daughter, and missed the side of the table with his head by a few cm when he fell. Everyone at that moment agreed including him (while laughing), no way that if something bad would have happened would outsiders believe the story of him dying like that, for sure it must have been an assassination.

Billionaire dying in a car crash? No way, all of them have f1 skills! Billionaire dying in a plane crash? No billionaire can die falling from 1 mile in the sky, dying from disease? We all know billionaires are mutants that can't catch any diseases! You have hundreds of teenagers dying after falling from a building or electrocuted on a train taking selfies but now way a billionaire the same age would die trying to go on a late swimming after smoking pot all night.
Of course, that changes in Russia, where a lot commit suicide by stabbing themselves in the back 20 times after falling from the 5th floor of a two stories high building.




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December 01, 2022, 03:28:52 PM
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Dangerous life of crypto-billionaires
Life itself is very dangerous because there are so many causes of accident, sickness and death. Billionaires are always targets of criminals and most times they are attacked and sometimes they loose their lives. These billionaires are also targets of competitors and business associates. Most business competitors would go to any length to outsmart or silence competition. Another common cause of the death of the rich is lack of rest. Most of them work themselves to death because they hardly rest or have time to seek medical attention. Lastly most business owners might not be able to stand the shame of losing their business or go bankrupt, so they commit suicide immediately they perceive that the business have started dying or is slipping out of their control

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December 01, 2022, 05:10:43 PM
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Interesting how the article is connecting all the dots and making it feel like it’s the truth. But I don’t think we should make big deal out of this. They are billionaires and they always do many things in their lives that we don’t know of!

They might be on drugs, booz, weed and what not? They could be having bad lifestyle which is leading them to die in their sleeps.

It could be merely mechanical fault in the helicopter and much more.

Just the way you have stated a prediction in one way, the above one is to look at it in another. I don’t think we should take this seriously.
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December 01, 2022, 05:37:47 PM
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Probably some random accident or unfortunate events. But even normal people who are involved in crypto might also experience the same. Cause ecen though they got died or intentionally been killed, those asset werent gonna be on the assailant and the victim knows this too. Though who knows but there are other people who are richer on them to be killed this way.

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December 01, 2022, 06:04:34 PM
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Various conspiracy theories aside — not sure what's so special about this? People die all the time of random causes, and yes — including billionaires.

One thing is for sure, if you are fortunate to be so rich to be deemed as a crypto billionaire, it’s a good idea to keep it on the down low, as good as you possibly can. This kind of thing stinks of corruption, some kind of business deal gone wrong, I don’t know.

Tell as few people as possible about your bitcoin/crypto position if you are a millionaire or billionaire. There is too much danger out there, especially in the current financial climate.

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It didn't say where the plane crash landed though (unless I missed a citation). I could imagine it'd be easy to go completely missing in places like Russia and China if you have the funds to make it happen (or aren't liked by the regimes).

An article from news.Bitcoin.com stated that the helecopter crash somewhere in the area of Villefranche-sur-Mer.  I believe the body and the plane had been found but according to the news[1] the cause of the crash is unconfirmed. 

Then the news continues by citing several deaths of company heads, where some of the death are somehow suspicious, like the one that fall out of the window of the hospital
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Lukoil's company Chairman Ravil Maganov, 67, died after reportedly falling out of a window of a Moscow hospital, also in September.

And being drawned after falling off a boat.

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The group includes the 39-year-old Managing Director of Russia’s Corporation for the Development of the Far East and the Arctic, Ivan Pechorin, who drowned after falling off a boat near Vladivostok on Sept. 10.

Those are indeed suspicious but well, it is not related to the crypto industry, so who cares  Cheesy





[1] https://news.bitcoin.com/russian-billionaire-and-crypto-businessman-dies-in-helicopter-crash-in-france/
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December 01, 2022, 06:20:37 PM
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Death happens to all, whether one is rich, poor or crypto billionaire everyone is supposed to die one day. No one can escape death out of his/her strength or with his/her wealth. What had happened naturally being connected with some controversy so to make the article reach all levels of people.

Everyone's life is in danger, just because one is a crypto billionaire and if someone have targeted him/her and ended the life then it is fearful for the Cryptocurrency authority to make things better to overcome the prevailing situation.
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It could be a set of natural causes, some could be more than that, but it doesn't seem like there's anything related to being crypto billionaires there specifically. Moreover, while crashing on a private helicopter is something that would not have happened without the wealth, dying in one's sleep or drowning are quite possible without it. I would not attach too much meaning to these events, and I generally agree with others that there is probably nothing to these situations other than people dying of natural causes. Of course, having immense wealth and being public about it makes a person a target, but it does not mean that these particular people were killed or that crypto wealth carries more risk than any other wealth in terms of becoming a target.

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December 01, 2022, 06:29:28 PM
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Those may have been accidents. I would not rule out coincidence just yet. But if they were truly killed because of their huge wealth, then obviously there would be more clues. So unless you are saying the governments themselves are somehow a part of this, I doubt these were murders.

Not many people drown or crash in their private helicopters. But it does happen. Even to completely normal, regular people with no absurd wealth.

I could however believe that some billionaire tried to fly the helicopter and crashed because he was not a good helicopter pilot, just a billionaire with too much time on his hands. Or if some rich guy slips off his yacht, that he spends all day on, and drowns because he was drunk or on drugs.

That I could believe.

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December 01, 2022, 06:37:43 PM
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It's always like this mate they always look for a cause of death or trying to find out impossible things or even channeling it to be food poison, taking an expired drink or content that is not meant for consumption. This made me flash back a well known reputable man in state who died very young at age 45 years old so the family term it to be a death that was planned and placed it with african charm which is very possible to maneuver from the part of my country where I came from. After some thorough investigation was carried it was said to be he is a ritualist and it's a life he chooses on which is known to be "Get Rich and Die Young". Is a kind of secrets society which is very common to our country and they where all shock how he could take such decision.
Being wealthy is a serious challenge because they don't live a free life like the average men out there, living a life full of protection, security and with all kinds of monitoring which is more common to Africans.

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The thing with some billionaires is that they have gotten themselves involved in some things that you never can imagine, Danger to life becomes the consequences of some of their involvements, that is some reason that you see some move around with a lot of security detail because they sometimes are targets for assassination's. Becoming successful in your field so much that you attain billionaire status can also get you enemies in the same line of work somethings for reasons even you do not know.

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December 01, 2022, 07:11:00 PM
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Various conspiracy theories aside — not sure what's so special about this? People die all the time of random causes, and yes — including billionaires.

As a billionaire, you can't have a normal death, no matter how you die people will always find fault with something and claim it was a set-up.

A few years ago I was at a party with a few of my old colleagues and friends all happening at our host's father who is the local representative for the leading party, everyone was having a fun time, dancing and so on, he managed to step on the dress of his daughter, and missed the side of the table with his head by a few cm when he fell. Everyone at that moment agreed including him (while laughing), no way that if something bad would have happened would outsiders believe the story of him dying like that, for sure it must have been an assassination.

Billionaire dying in a car crash? No way, all of them have f1 skills! Billionaire dying in a plane crash? No billionaire can die falling from 1 mile in the sky, dying from disease? We all know billionaires are mutants that can't catch any diseases! You have hundreds of teenagers dying after falling from a building or electrocuted on a train taking selfies but now way a billionaire the same age would die trying to go on a late swimming after smoking pot all night.
Of course, that changes in Russia, where a lot commit suicide by stabbing themselves in the back 20 times after falling from the 5th floor of a two stories high building.

This dude made me laugh.  Grin
Obviously he is so true about the incidences being claimed as conspiracy theories. I mean there is no way billionaire can die that easy considering they have lot of money to take care of. But someone will always find a way to kill them so that they can have all of their properties and money in their names.

Obviously that is an absolute joke mate. All we are doing is flogging a dead horse here. It's meaningless to discuss the deaths of billionaires. The point is they are gone and they left pretty heavy stash behind them which by default will get inherited to their decedent's (surprisingly they could be the one writing those conspiracy theories Wink)
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December 01, 2022, 07:16:27 PM
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Death is something natural, every living thing must die, so its not new for billionaires to die but I don't think its is related to crypto, billionaires can do so many kind of things to secure their wealth and will always have a rival that wants them dead so that he can reign.

If they are dying by drowning,then let billionaires not put jacuzzi in their compound maybe these will prevent their untimely death. People die everyday just the way children are given birth to everyday but we do hear about the billionaires death because they are public figures. Sometimes the information about their death is false,they might have died through a different way.

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December 01, 2022, 07:41:32 PM
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Who cares about how crypto billionaires die and what is so special in creating a thread like this in the Bitcoin discussion boards, all the names you mentioned are not members of this forum none that we know, so what is the essence of this thread?

After all one day all of us will still die but how we will die is unknown to us all, so what I can say is RIP to all of them.
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I don’t think this is limited to just crypto billionaires. Mysterious things happen to extremely wealthy individuals all the time. Lottery winners for example are some of the most murdered people on the planet. Unfortunately there are a lot of people out there that would do anything for money no matter who they hurt, and billionaires tend to have enough valuables on their person to make life dangerous for them around opportunists.

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Russian billionaire Vyacheslav Taran was killed when the helicopter he was traveling in crashed near Monaco. Reports in Ukrainian media have previously alleged that Taran, who was co-founder of trading and investment platform Libertex and foreign exchange trading group Forex Club.

As a matter of fact there were a lot of Russian billionaires and influential people that died this year.

There's definitely something going on there because they happened to start dying after the sanctions were imposed and the rich begun to criticize the government. Especially a lot of people with connections to Gazprom happened to die.
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December 01, 2022, 09:20:24 PM
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Various conspiracy theories aside — not sure what's so special about this? People die all the time of random causes, and yes — including billionaires.
Even if it there was merit to the conspiracies (which I'm not alluding too) anyone with a lot of money, and are publicly known for that could be at risk. It's not specifically because they're invested in Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies. Since, most people who are rich tend to have nice houses, and cars, and whatever other luxury items it's generally quite well known when you've got money.

Same goes for Bitcoin. In fact, you could say that stealing someone's physical money would be a lot easier than someone's Bitcoin password or private key. Anyway, thought it would be important to establish that this isn't exclusive to cryptocurrencies, and the risk is the same regardless.
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Various conspiracy theories aside — not sure what's so special about this? People die all the time of random causes, and yes — including billionaires.
People cant just make themselves not to make out those thinking and brainstorming that this involved some foul play, but it isnt really surprising right? When you do have the money or been known as billionaire

whether here on crypto space or into those typical or usual companies then expect that your life will really be that on danger.Just let those authorities do their job and make out those investigation.

This is why when you do own soo much money then you should really be mindful about security yet you wont know on whose spotting you out and waiting for some opportunity
or even trying to be killed by one of your competition which everything or every angle does impose risks.

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You can imagine your situation when your wealth is in the billions and the keys to that wealth lie in your computer or on your hard disk. You will have nightmares and every bad scenario will come to your mind, especially if you do not have the technical qualifications to understand it. These are the fears that banks exploit to deduct part of your money in return for guarding and preserving it, in addition to giving up your privacy almost completely because it cannot carry out its tasks for the benefit of unknown people.
That is the tax of wealth. This is supposed to be an incentive for those wealthy people to develop their knowledge and technical skills in order to at least protect their money.
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December 01, 2022, 09:49:02 PM
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People cant just make themselves not to make out those thinking and brainstorming that this involved some foul play, but it isnt really surprising right? When you do have the money or been known as billionaire

whether here on crypto space or into those typical or usual companies then expect that your life will really be that on danger.Just let those authorities do their job and make out those investigation.

This is why when you do own soo much money then you should really be mindful about security yet you wont know on whose spotting you out and waiting for some opportunity
or even trying to be killed by one of your competition which everything or every angle does impose risks.
Every billionaire out there will be exposed to the same risks, so they have to be careful with their wealth. I tend to see billionaires leaving their hometowns and migrating to safer countries or cities just to increase the security of their lives from threats, these are not just crypto billionaires but almost every other billionaire.

But in crypto, one has to keep their financial privacy safe and never flaunt it anywhere. Threats will always be lurking, people need money and they will do anything for it.

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December 01, 2022, 09:59:24 PM
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If im a billionaire then i would really allocate some budget on having security or buddy guards which would really be always with me or whenever i do go and just like the rest been saying that risk and danger is already
on your side.You cant really just make yourself that able to avoid when you are on health problems or some accident like drowning, slipping, get crashed by a car or something that do happen naturally.
If its your time then its your time but as much as possible you should really avoid yourself on these risk or hazard. Its true that this isnt only happening on billionaires but all of us humans
where accidents and health issues or safety issue could really happen and this is why making yourself aware on surrounding is a must.

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December 01, 2022, 10:07:54 PM
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If im a billionaire then i would really allocate some budget on having security or buddy guards which would really be always with me or whenever i do go and just like the rest been saying that risk and danger is already
on your side.

And that would really help you if you got into a situation like these people. I'd like to remind you that one of them died in a helicopter crash and the other one died in his sleep. Mircea Popescu that's mentioned by OP drowned while swimming in the sea. I'm sure if they had a bodyguard they'd all be fine Cheesy

In reality every day hundreds of people die. The more bitcoiners there are the more frequent deaths among them will be.

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Russian billionaire Vyacheslav Taran was killed when the helicopter he was traveling in crashed near Monaco. Reports in Ukrainian media have previously alleged that Taran, who was co-founder of trading and investment platform Libertex and foreign exchange trading group Forex Club.

Just last week, the founder of Hong Kong-based digital asset company Amber Group Tiantian Kullander died suddenly in his sleep. The 30-year-old had built the company into a $3 billion ‘fintech unicorn.’

A month before Kullander’s death, MakerDAO developer and crypto millionaire Nikolai Mushegian apparently drowned in Puerto Rico.

Back in July 2021, the crypto industry was rocked by the news that controversial Romanian crypto billionaire Mircea Popescu — also known as ‘the father of bitcoin toxicity‘ — had drowned in Costa Rica.

More details - https://protos.com/russian-billionaire-latest-crypto-tycoon-to-die-mysteriously/

I don't think we can correlate their death to their crypto assets, it is what it is, you can die in your sleep just like the rest of us, or killed in a helicopter crash like Kobe a couple of years ago.

It just so happen that they have billions of crypto by the time of their death that's why it is some tied in.

But death is common to us, whether you are crypto rich or just average joe or not even having a single sat. That is call life.

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Death is something we inevitably face, obviously we will never know the reason but it is a sure thing.
The thing is, if the billionaire died from being murdered then things would be very different. We must have heard that billionaires are killed through careful planning, the killers are caught and jailed. Whereas when they become crypto billionaires then what's in it for them as long as the killer can't access their wallet.

Same goes for Bitcoin. In fact, you could say that stealing someone's physical money would be a lot easier than someone's Bitcoin password or private key. Anyway, thought it would be important to establish that this isn't exclusive to cryptocurrencies, and the risk is the same regardless.
The risks are the same, but they can never access the wallet if they don't have the key. Everyone needs to avoid risks, they also need to back up their wallet to keep it safe and better someone needs to think about something like inheritance.

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If im a billionaire then i would really allocate some budget on having security or buddy guards which would really be always with me or whenever i do go and just like the rest been saying that risk and danger is already
on your side.

And that would really help you if you got into a situation like these people. I'd like to remind you that one of them died in a helicopter crash and the other one died in his sleep. Mircea Popescu that's mentioned by OP drowned while swimming in the sea. I'm sure if they had a bodyguard they'd all be fine Cheesy

In reality every day hundreds of people die. The more bitcoiners there are the more frequent deaths among them will be.
In short, theres no security could help you out on these cases no matter how many it would be which money isnt something that could save you up 100% specially on accidents
like this. Aerial crash? Getting drowned due to some reason? You would definitely die in together with your security.  lol
Its true that if its your time to die then its your time and there's no way for you to avoid it no matter how much money you do have in bank or on your pocket.
Financial status cant really save you up from death.

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An article from news.Bitcoin.com stated that the helecopter crash somewhere in the area of Villefranche-sur-Mer.  I believe the body and the plane had been found but according to the news[1] the cause of the crash is unconfirmed. 

Then the news continues by citing several deaths of company heads, where some of the death are somehow suspicious, like the one that fall out of the window of the hospital
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Lukoil's company Chairman Ravil Maganov, 67, died after reportedly falling out of a window of a Moscow hospital, also in September.

And being drawned after falling off a boat.

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The group includes the 39-year-old Managing Director of Russia’s Corporation for the Development of the Far East and the Arctic, Ivan Pechorin, who drowned after falling off a boat near Vladivostok on Sept. 10.

Those are indeed suspicious but well, it is not related to the crypto industry, so who cares  Cheesy





[1] https://news.bitcoin.com/russian-billionaire-and-crypto-businessman-dies-in-helicopter-crash-in-france/

I thought they were just suspicious because they were Russian and only one of the people mentioned in the op to do with crypto was Russia so that makes it a bit different.

The Lukoil thing happened just after its joint ownership was confiscated from a European entity too (which I thought made it more significant).

I guess a plane crash in French territory is harder to fake.
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It feels like I'm watching a movie when reading the OP's first post.  Grin

It seems to me, this only matters or their death is big deal because they are cryptocurrency billionaires and they have something to do with cryptocurrency.
But for me, some could be here are conspiracy but I also believe that there are some people behind this tragedy to them, maybe something to do with their money but if there is no really proof, I won't believe it. I will consider it as the normal death of a normal person.

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Although the rich are famous and rich, their life risk factor is much higher than that of ordinary people. Therefore, the private jets, vehicles, family residences, and company offices of billionaires have undergone special security treatment, with face recognition and electronic monitoring everywhere. It is still difficult for "criminals" to kill. Regardless of whether a billionaire owns cryptocurrency or not, there will be "criminals" who want to kill him.
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One thing is for sure, if you are fortunate to be so rich to be deemed as a crypto billionaire, it’s a good idea to keep it on the down low, as good as you possibly can. This kind of thing stinks of corruption, some kind of business deal gone wrong, I don’t know.

Tell as few people as possible about your bitcoin/crypto position if you are a millionaire or billionaire. There is too much danger out there, especially in the current financial climate.

Pretty much — not even just as a crypto billionaire, but even just as a decently wealthy person in general, especially when living in the more rural-ish provincial areas.

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I think, when you have so much money.... you do things that might be more dangerous ...than what other people might be doing that has less money. The average person will not Jet Ski around an island or take up sky diving or go to exotic (dangerous) places, that might put then into situations that might be more dangerous than usual.

They might even die of natural causes, because they eat too much of the wrong kind of foods and they might drink too much or use too much drugs. (A lot of poor people do a lot of physical exercise every day as part of their work.... rich people might exercise much less and die from high cholesterol or a weak heart or diabetes complications etc..)  Roll Eyes

A lot of these rich people have very high stress levels.... because they have several businesses or risky investments.

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Who cares about how crypto billionaires die and what is so special in creating a thread like this in the Bitcoin discussion boards, all the names you mentioned are not members of this forum none that we know, so what is the essence of this thread?

After all one day all of us will still die but how we will die is unknown to us all, so what I can say is RIP to all of them.

Interestingly, do you always participate only in those topics where only forum members are discussed?


As a matter of fact there were a lot of Russian billionaires and influential people that died this year.

There's definitely something going on there because they happened to start dying after the sanctions were imposed and the rich begun to criticize the government. Especially a lot of people with connections to Gazprom happened to die.


You're right. I also went to look to see how many deaths had happened recently of people with good capital who were strangely dead. Ten top managers die of suicide or accidents. Another strangely falls out of the window; the other is buried in the river. The death of Vyacheslav Taran will of course be discussed, as the events of recent months encourage people to speculate all over the place, including the murder or even the desire to remain anonymous while faking their death.

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