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December 04, 2022, 07:47:15 PM
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If you place a bet with a large bet and suddenly your number comes out, the dealer must pay your winnings. But some bookmakers can't pay it because they don't have enough money in their balance. But I'm not sure if there is a way to cheat the number that will come out later because it depends on your luck unless the dealer cheats the number. And usually, if it's a lottery, people tend to buy the numbers in large quantities because they think that one of the numbers will come out and he will be the winner.
In our country, some small lottery bookmakers only accept minimal amount for betting so that if the number wins, they can easily pay the winner. Otherwise, if the bettor wants to put higher bet, he should do it at the main betting place. However, when asked if the game is rigged or there are some anomalies in the lottery company, that’s what I’ve been hearing ever since, but until now those are not yet proven.

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December 04, 2022, 08:02:58 PM
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I don't see it different with other lotteries in other countries,

(a) still based on pure luck
(b) if this is under the government regulated lottery, then they will have to pay the winner

So not sure how they are going to rigged it, again here in our country it will be supervised and then show in live tv what numbers are drawn.

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December 04, 2022, 08:07:26 PM
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Some people receive lottery lucky number in dream and some even consult spirit to help them to guess the right lucky number, but I have not hard how effective that is but if it can aid in winning does that mean the spirit has the power to see the future to know the right lottery number?

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December 04, 2022, 09:03:54 PM
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Government lotteries are very common and it's not that hard to win. The problem is that by guessing 2 numbers you get the first lowest prize and this is usually the amount needed to buy 1 or 2 more tickets. It's just to make you keep playing. The real difficulty comes when you're about to win big money. This is also where math comes in. Chances of you winning a grand prize are so low that you'll most likely be buying tickets all your life and never win anything.

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December 04, 2022, 09:15:19 PM
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Some people receive lottery lucky number in dream and some even consult spirit to help them to guess the right lucky number, but I have not hard how effective that is but if it can aid in winning does that mean the spirit has the power to see the future to know the right lottery number?
There will always belief about this one, it has been a trend since someone is winning and claiming that he dreamed about that numbers so probably many will also follow it. If you are going to place a bet in lottery most of the time its a combination of your favorite number and important dates to remember, if you are lucky enough then there’s a higher chance of winning but then again, this is not guaranteed so better not to expect that much.

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December 04, 2022, 09:40:51 PM
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My neighbor is very fond of lottery gambling like this and even to get numbers he sometimes performs a ritual to the graves of the dead to ask for clues to the numbers that will come out of the lottery, sometimes he also uses formulas from lottery numbers that have come out as a formula to calculate and get the numbers that will come out of the lottery even though I have reminded you that it is better to play a casino than a lottery like that

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December 04, 2022, 09:54:32 PM
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My neighbor is very fond of lottery gambling like this and even to get numbers he sometimes performs a ritual to the graves of the dead to ask for clues to the numbers that will come out of the lottery, sometimes he also uses formulas from lottery numbers that have come out as a formula to calculate and get the numbers that will come out of the lottery even though I have reminded you that it is better to play a casino than a lottery like that
Some gamblers have this kind of practice, although it's not advisable to ask anything to the dead. Occultism and necromancy are dangerous practices which have negative consequences for the individuals involved on them. Some people will say it's superstition, and it doesn't really matter, since you don't get involved with it. In this case the doubt is better than the certain...

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December 04, 2022, 10:04:45 PM
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It’s a type of lottery, but with your preferred arrangement? I haven’t heard of togel ever it’s just here that I read this, but if it is a type of lottery, then it’s obvious that it’s still a lot game and just you need to get the right numbers right?

I don’t get the dead and dead Magic. What is that for?
In the lottery game in my country, many people associate lottery luck with magic, it's just a term, but here I ask whether there is an element of cheating in the lottery. thanks

I think the people in your country believes in such superstitious belief. Though there is nothing wrong with that given that there are various cultures in the world, but you have to understand that the lottery is specifically tied with the game of luck. You can even watch it live when the lottery/sweepstakes office gets a number from this machine which is purely random, I believe.

Like what some have mentioned, there are people who choose their numbers depending on several factors. For example, my father chooses dates of all our birthdays as his number on the lottery. Again, everything is all about luck!

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December 04, 2022, 10:47:13 PM
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Lottery is always random at best, though there can always be some sort of "trick" to fool people into believing that the numbers are picked at random even when cheating is already happening behind the scenes. There's no real way to know which numbers will be drawn/picked on the lottery no matter how many "methods" or "tricks" your seniors are sharing. At the end of the day, it's just another game of chance and whosoever is lucky that day will win that pot no matter what. Superstitions and other black magic sorcery does not work with these, unfortunately.

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December 04, 2022, 11:03:45 PM
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Lottery is always random at best, though there can always be some sort of "trick" to fool people into believing that the numbers are picked at random even when cheating is already happening behind the scenes. There's no real way to know which numbers will be drawn/picked on the lottery no matter how many "methods" or "tricks" your seniors are sharing. At the end of the day, it's just another game of chance and whosoever is lucky that day will win that pot no matter what. Superstitions and other black magic sorcery does not work with these, unfortunately.

It is so rare to find a winner that employs so-called black magic although it's not cheating but is unlikely to alter your luck based on matra I do find a lot of winners that rely on the combination of their birthday and favorite numbers its not cheating or black magic it just happens because it's based on luck.

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Is there a leak in the lottery numbers? like in your country which uses an air mix lottery machine, can that be adjusted? I sometimes think that the lottery is a lot of cheating,
That's just a belief that's playing in every gambler and lottery bettor's mind.

is it possible from our luck? Thank you
A lottery is a luck-based gambling game and that's really what you're going to need to win there. But if it's possible to cheat, possible depending on the operator or if someone has found a bug in their system. We don't know for sure if someone finds one and he'll abuse it until the operators have noticed that someone's winning huge at most times.

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Here in my area those you mentioned are still used in guessing their betting numbers either the olds and youngster. The numbers shows on their dreams, also they so called "analyze" the date and time of death anniversary of the family member who "died" and come up a betting number and will be used to stake, birth date of someone in family circle is used as well. Well, in some way those number shows, but i still think it is just pure luck.

About the city/place where the lottery takes, as long as there is no transparency of the method used and it's not public, the chance of it for being rigged is too high.

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Some people receive lottery lucky number in dream and some even consult spirit to help them to guess the right lucky number, but I have not hard how effective that is but if it can aid in winning does that mean the spirit has the power to see the future to know the right lottery number?
This is the most belief i find all these years ,

People dreamed of Numbers and when they put bet in lottery (specially those 2 digits lottery) that the combination takes place and they won.

but like what said by many (not of all) that this is a luck base game and you can never guess what will come without luck bringing you.

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Some people receive lottery lucky number in dream and some even consult spirit to help them to guess the right lucky number, but I have not hard how effective that is but if it can aid in winning does that mean the spirit has the power to see the future to know the right lottery number?
This is the most belief i find all these years ,

People dreamed of Numbers and when they put bet in lottery (specially those 2 digits lottery) that the combination takes place and they won.

but like what said by many (not of all) that this is a luck base game and you can never guess what will come without luck bringing you.

A fortune teller consults the spirit all the time to foretell the client's fate, they should really be richer than Elon if they can really foresee which numbers to come out on the lottery. Unfortunately, they are also scams.

Luck games like the lottery though are giving hope to people. My father keeps spending on these tickets and his drawer is full of these tickets. Never really see him win a dime.


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A fortune teller consults the spirit all the time to foretell the client's fate, they should really be richer than Elon if they can really foresee which numbers to come out on the lottery. Unfortunately, they are also scams.
Yeah , funny how Fortune teller saw our future when they dont see theirs , this is one of the most stupid belief I ever saw all these time.

Even a cousin of mine keeps believing in fortune tellers but still Life is miserable lol.

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Luck games like the lottery though are giving hope to people. My father keeps spending on these tickets and his drawer is full of these tickets. Never really see him win a dime.

sometimes this is only for their complete relief mate, i also have an uncle that bets in lottery all His life yet he never gather that amount he spent from the amount he wins.

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I haven’t heard of togel ever it’s just here that I read this, but if it is a type of lottery, then it’s obvious that it’s still a lot game and just you need to get the right numbers right?

That's what indigenous Indonesians (especially in rural areas) call the lottery, generally they have difficulty pronouncing borrowed words. And (answering the op's first question) because of the difficulty in accessing and transferring money from ticket sales, ticket retailers sometimes also become bookies (called local bookies) with jackpot results based on lottery center draws (from Singapore and Macau). At this point, the payout of winnings will depend on whether the local bookies can afford to pay. Lottery winners are not entitled to claim winnings to the central dealer in any way.

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It is so rare to find a winner that employs so-called black magic although it's not cheating but is unlikely to alter your luck based on matra I do find a lot of winners that rely on the combination of their birthday and favorite numbers its not cheating or black magic it just happens because it's based on luck.

Yeah , I once win in small time lottery using the combination of my birthday and my wife and yes this adds flavor.

But guess how much i spent before winning? it took me at least almost a year before taking wins  Grin this means one thing mate that in gambling it is more that you will lose than what you can take out.
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(1) here I ask my seniors if we guess the numbers correctly but we bet the numbers with very high bets whether the dealer will issue our numbers
"togel" aka "toto gelap" or in English - illegal lottery (because in Indonesia, any kind of gambling is illegal),

I've concern about this and I heard about that fraudulent issue but I can't prove it, The issue is, the top dealer filters all bettor numbers and finds a few numbers and a few bet that is used, when they find it then that number is taken out. And, before Chinese New Year, they usually issue numbers that are not used by bettors.

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I don't see it different with other lotteries in other countries,

(a) still based on pure luck
(b) if this is under the government regulated lottery, then they will have to pay the winner

So not sure how they are going to rigged it, again here in our country it will be supervised and then show in live tv what numbers are drawn.

Lotteries and every betting site is being run on trust, which is why the lotteries should show transparency and trustworthiness if there are reports of rigging the game they will support and many wills opted not to bet, like in your country, our country is also supervising the lottery draw because the government-owned and run the lottery it also televised with an independent panel of observant, the drawing is above suspicious 30% of the profit of the lottery goes to the government coffer that supports the health system and this is a huge amount, so they make it a point not to lose support from the bettors.

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Now I understand why the OP had a question about a possible refusal of payments, but refusal and fraud with the announcement of the results during the lottery itself are slightly different things, although they are aimed at deceiving participants, it's just that the first one can be longer in time and bring more profit to the organizers.
In Indonesia, of course, participation in gambling can lead to a prison term, but they have one legally licensed lottery, which is free.
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