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January 29, 2023, 09:26:26 AM
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It's no longer like that.
As you see in the following image, I just imported a wallet that has been generated by electrum and has never received any fund into bluewallet successfully.
Hmm, good to know. Did you ever try it before and what would happen? Did Blue Wallet provide an error mentioning that the seed import didn't work or that it was a wrong seed format...?
Additionally, have you checked if both wallets generate the same addresses? I really hope it works and Blue Wallet doesn't produce errors if you went ahead and used that imported (unfunded) Electrum wallet.

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January 29, 2023, 09:36:29 AM
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Did you ever try it before and what would happen? Did Blue Wallet provide an error mentioning that the seed import didn't work or that it was a wrong seed format...?
I don't remember exactly. If I am not wrong, there was a message saying "no wallet found" or something like that.

Additionally, have you checked if both wallets generate the same addresses?
Yes. I checked the addresses. Bluewallet generates the same addresses as electrum.

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January 29, 2023, 12:57:13 PM
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He mentioned that the Android version used is ColorOS V12.1 with the Helio G35 Octa Core Processor specification.
Isn't that a high version of Android?
He can use Electrum instead if the crash continues. Signature verification. I use Bluewallet with Helio G96 phone and it works perfectly, but it is better than Helio G35.
This means that the problem experienced by one of our friends lies in the Android version used by him. I also think that if his android is snapdragon, it might not be a problem bouncing out when trying to open the BlueWallet app.

I will try to get back to him in the near future with a recommendation for an Electrum Wallet.

Blue Wallet is better than Trust Wallet.
I agree, and one of the main features for which I use bluewallet is its "pay-to-many" feature. I guess there is no other mobile wallet currently which supports this feature.
For now I am more comfortable using BlueWallet on Android with its convenience. However, I have not tried using other android wallets other than Trust Wallet before switching to BlueWallet. Who knows there are more conveniences from BlueWallet.

I've tried to search on several boards about tutorials on how to make a BlueWallet wallet, but I couldn't find it.
The only topic I know is from 2019: A great lesser known wallet! [BlueWallet].
That's right. When I did a search before creating this topic, I also saw that topic, but it wasn't about tutorials as I originally intended. However, due to some suggestions from some people that I thought made sense, I was happy to comply to make this topic broader in discussion not only limited to tutorials.

I talked to them on Telegram, but they didn't seem to care.
Maybe they are busy.
Can we hear what they have to say about your question after they answer the one you asked via Telegram?
At least I can personally discover something new.

@OP
As others have pointed out, I think you should edit and correct Step #1 that talks about searching and finding the wallet on the Play Store. Say that the wallet should only be downloaded from links posted on the official website instead.
Thank you Pmalek. I'll add your suggestion, because it's really a good suggestion to make it easier for people to get access to their official site.

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January 29, 2023, 01:10:15 PM
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Thank you Pmalek. I'll add your suggestion...
It's better now. However, it's not a song.
It's better if you download the song directly from BlueWallet's official website, either the App Store or Play Store.
I guess you had something else on your mind when you made that correction. And since you made a hyperlink to the App Store, it looks better if a similar hyperlink also exists for the Android version on Play Store.

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January 30, 2023, 10:49:17 AM
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Did anybody use BlueWallet with LN? I've been just researching these days on it and I've seen today a pretty ugly post about it on Reddit (claiming that very often he cannot send out transactions).
So, is anybody around here using BlueWallet for LN often enough to say a few words on it?

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January 30, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
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Did anybody use BlueWallet with LN?
I did.

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(claiming that very often he cannot send out transactions).
Unfortunately, this has happened to me too. It doesn't work all the time, but I'm not sure if BlueWallet or "the other side" is the blame.

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I noticed you only mentioned about 12 seed phrases in the opening post, but it's worth noting that you can also import and generate 24 seed phrases...

Steps:
  • Click the three dots in the upper right corner
  • Go to General
  • Enable "Advanced Mode"
  • Go back to the main page and click the "+ button" to add a wallet
  • Choose "Bitcoin", then click "Provide entropy via dice rolls"
  • When you reach 256 bits, click "Save" and then "Create".

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This means that the problem experienced by one of our friends lies in the Android version used by him


but it must not show up in google play there then. anyway it's their bug. So i think it's not about android
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I noticed you only mentioned about 12 seed phrases in the opening post, but it's worth noting that you can also import and generate 24 seed phrases...
Yes, that's right. I didn't mention as you did in your opening post that Blue Wallet users can also take this step. This is the real intention so that the discussion about Bule Wallet can be more broadly discussed so that those of us who are still in the learning stage about bitcoin wallet techniques, especially Blue Wallet, can listen to any valuable input.

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  • Click the three dots in the upper right corner
  • Go to General
  • Enable "Advanced Mode"
  • Go back to the main page and click the "+ button" to add a wallet
  • Choose "Bitcoin", then click "Provide entropy via dice rolls"
  • When you reach 256 bits, click "Save" and then "Create".
Thank you very much @SFR10 for your additional input with very easy to understand steps for those who want to apply this method in the app.
Can I add a picture to those steps?
If you can, maybe tomorrow I will add it.



This means that the problem experienced by one of our friends lies in the Android version used by him
but it must not show up in google play there then. anyway it's their bug. So i think it's not about android
I've messaged one of their contacts via Telegram and politely enquired about the issues that one of the Blue Wallet users is experiencing as I've asked here. I even mentioned the Android version used by the user who was having trouble using the Blue Wallet app, but to date they have not replied.
So, I don't dare to respond to what you said.

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Thank you very much @SFR10 for your additional input with very easy to understand steps for those who want to apply this method in the app.
Can I add a picture to those steps?
If you can, maybe tomorrow I will add it.
You're very welcome... Sure, but I forgot to mention something so please insert a sub-bullet for #5: There are three ways to get the 256 bits [coin flip, dice and icosahedron] and if you don't provide enough entropy, it'd use its RNG to get the remaining bytes for you.



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February 06, 2023, 08:02:49 AM
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Can anyone provide a solution behind the problems received by one of the users of the Android version of BlueWallet.

When he installed the BlueWallet application there were no stuck or error problems during the download process on Google Playstore. But when he opened the BlueWallet application, it could be said that he could not open it because the application suddenly closed by itself.

There are some people trying to provide advice related to the obstacles experienced by him, such as suggesting to clean the cache, who knows the smartphone used is full of caches. The user has done some suggestions but still when tried to open the BlueWallet application it cannot.

Who knows, I can forward suggestions from friends here to him in the thread Local Bahasa indonesia (Indonesian).

Thank you.

That seems strange, the download is fine and then it can't be opened in the blue wallet. I suddenly became curious about this bluewallet.

And according to what I discovered, the bluewallet is not the best option to use to hide our assets that are bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. Because this is what I saw on reddit,

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And according to what I discovered, the bluewallet is not the best option to use to hide our assets that are bitcoin or other cryptocurrency.
Bluewallet is surely a good option. It's open-source and non-custodial. So, it gives you full control over your fund and there is nothing hidden from the users. It also allow you to make offline transactions.
Note that bluewallet only supports bitcoin and can't be used for altcoins.

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And according to what I discovered, the bluewallet is not the best option to use to hide our assets that are bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. Because this is what I saw on reddit,
That's not what the Reddit post is talking about. If you want to hide your assets, use Bitcoin Core on Tor with manual coin control. Bitcoin Core does meet all requirements the Reddit guy is looking for.

Different wallets have different purposes. If there would be "a best wallet" for every use, everyone would use it. That would lead to terrible centralization, so I'm glad I still get to choose.

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That seems strange, the download is fine and then it can't be opened in the blue wallet. I suddenly became curious about this bluewallet.

And according to what I discovered, the bluewallet is not the best option to use to hide our assets that are bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. Because this is what I saw on reddit,

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Every work made by humans must have a weak point. Perhaps the problem experienced is not in the application but in the android version as explained by several people who have good knowledge in technical matters.

Blue Wallet is one of the good Bitcoin wallets for users who want to store assets because it is Open-Source and Non-Custodial. If I'm not mistaken, an administrator even suggested Blue Wallet of the many best Bitcoin wallets to use after the FTX incident with good intentions and goals for all of us in safeguarding assets.
Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts

If you think Blue Wallet is not the best choice, there are still many other good wallets that you can use to safeguard your valuable assets.

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And according to what I discovered, the bluewallet is not the best option to use to hide our assets that are bitcoin or other cryptocurrency.
If you mean for cold storage, definitely not. You should use very well tested software like Bitcoin Core or Electrum, and use your own node to load up the wallet from non-airgapped device as watch-only.

BlueWallet is best if you want to use lightning, don't want to run a node, and don't care about self-custody nor about the comparably high routing fee. It's also a good on-chain wallet, because as said is open-source and perhaps the most reviewed across all Android Bitcoin wallet software.

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Another convenience found in Blue Wallet is being able to import from wallets that are currently used, such as Trust Wallet, by entering 12 phrases.

Blue wallet supports only bitcoin so if you import the trust wallet by entering the phrases, how will it import the altcoins stored in the trust wallet ?  Or it will only show your bitcoin present in trust wallet?

My second question, Electurm or Blue Wallet, which one you think is better?

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Electurm or Blue Wallet, which one you think is better?
I'd choose Electrum on a desktop, and BlueWallet on mobile. There is no "one wallet fits all".
Try for yourself Smiley

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Blue wallet supports only bitcoin so if you import the trust wallet by entering the phrases, how will it import the altcoins stored in the trust wallet?
It won't show the altcoins. Both wallets generate BIP39-compatible seeds, but only one is a multicurrency wallet while the other isn't.  

Or it will only show your bitcoin present in trust wallet?
Assuming both wallets use the same derivation paths, and I think they do, only your bitcoin will be recovered.

My second question, Electurm or Blue Wallet, which one you think is better?
I agree with LoyceV on this one. I use Electrum myself, but only the desktop version. I don't like the mobile version as it lacks important features compared to the desktop one. Blue Wallet on mobile has more advanced options than its Electrum counterpart. It also looks and feels better.

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February 12, 2023, 02:01:08 PM
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Another convenience found in Blue Wallet is being able to import from wallets that are currently used, such as Trust Wallet, by entering 12 phrases.
Blue wallet supports only bitcoin so if you import the trust wallet by entering the phrases, how will it import the altcoins stored in the trust wallet ?  Or it will only show your bitcoin present in trust wallet?

My second question, Electurm or Blue Wallet, which one you think is better?
Good question.
When I import Trust Wallet phrases into Blue Wallet, it is only Bitcoin and Altcoins are not shown in Blue Wallet.
This is as far as I am concerned while using the mobile version of Blue Wallet.



Actually, both questions have been answered. Your first question has been answered by Pmalek and your second question has been answered by LovceV. Both answers given by them both in my opinion are quite appropriate so I think the answer has represented what you want to get.

Thank you LovceV and Pmalek.

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My second question, Electurm or Blue Wallet, which one you think is better?

For me personally electrum never really worked as expected on android - it was constantly crashing at the most inconvenient places. That said, even if it worked great I think bluewallet is much, much more polished and a better user experience - and it's available on ios as well, which electrum is not.
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