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December 09, 2022, 06:59:24 AM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Best is If you Open position everyday long or short keep the position Open few HOURS and cash Out the profit then forget about Market and btc go do your normal life things.
Biggest mistake traders do are this they Open positions like eth btc then those coins tend to move slow and while they waiting they might change their mind and making mistakes.
You should only focus on few HOURS how to cash out money from Market that's it.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.

I been making mistakes like i Open btc short when i know Market is up but still btc did not moved like few days so it means i did not make any money few days i was waiting like a fool instead of that If i was gona long and short other coins i would Made money everyday.

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.

But btc are great Market indicator so i use btc price as Market indicator to know when to long or short.

If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.
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December 09, 2022, 09:14:55 AM
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Control your emotion, believe me, emotion is your biggest number one enemy. Especially the fear and greed know how to stop loss and know how to take profit.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

Please don't stay away from BTC since if you can predict BTC moves you can predict the most market is going. In fact, most of traders that I have followed what they do first is predict BTC moving after that they start to analyze the altcoin. Bitcoin waves is real.

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December 09, 2022, 09:43:29 AM
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.

While you can definitely make life-changing money in crypto if you know what you're doing — the words "crypto", "trading", and "stable" doesn't really go well together. Even the best traders have bad trading days.

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December 09, 2022, 09:55:40 AM
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These tips are for futures trading and are generally not suitable for beginners. Therefore, the problem is in the method more than being a good way to achieve profits or vice versa.
Opening futures contracts in highly volatile currencies and support and resistance points cannot be predicted well, which makes it better to invest in different methods such as day/spot trading.

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December 09, 2022, 11:25:12 AM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
When you cannot predict the direction of market, how you could make money? I mean you need the clear idea about where market is heading and without that you cannot make money hence being conscious about market direction is recommended but not sure why you are asking to focus on making profit by not bothering about the market sentiment.

Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.
You keep repeating about bitcoin negatively but you never mention about what contracts you are trading in futures. If you find BTC market is slow in crypto space, I am afraid that you may not find any other asset suitable for futures trading as in my opinion bitcoin market alone is too volatile compared to any other cryptocurrencies.

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December 09, 2022, 11:46:05 AM
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If you use btc futures without having sufficient analytical skills, you will not get profits but will experience losses, making your capital run out. Apart from that, you also have to control your emotions in trading because this has made many people lose opportunities to make profits. But as traders, we have our own way of analyzing the market to find a time when we can trade.

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December 09, 2022, 12:02:24 PM
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Only it is not.  My portfolio has been in a stable decline over the past year.  This does not mean I am not hopeful, it only means I know and admit it is not a STABLE income.  When it finally starts rising however, it makes up for all these months of losses.

I wonder for how long can you continue thinking you can predict each and every Bitcoin short or long successfully.  For many of us, Dollar Cost Averaging is much more profitable than predicting the lowest or the highest points.  It always does wonders for me.  Buy, buy, buy.  It only takes a few minutes instead of hours of analysis and then all there is is a waiting game.

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OP, you have given all the advice that should NOT be done by plebs like us, ESPECIALLY during where and how the market currently is. NOW, it's time to save as much as we can and accumulate. There might be another crash, large or small, but the next months whether the crash happens, or doesn't happen, WILL be the time for ACCUMULATION = Buy and HODL. Tell me during 2025 if I'm wrong or not. Cool

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December 09, 2022, 12:28:13 PM
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.

While you can definitely make life-changing money in crypto if you know what you're doing — the words "crypto", "trading", and "stable" doesn't really go well together. Even the best traders have bad trading days.

Many newbies got mis informed towards crypto can change their life and this lead them to think about that they can earn fast money by just simply trading their money in the market or believe on someones signal saying that they can be rich trading at them. They need to know that they are dealing with unpredictable things so what we need is to stay focus on everything and gather all information to be more equip in terms of trading some coins in the market. They should not be comfortable on learning basic things because as you said even advance traders lose all their money on bad decisions they made.

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Control your emotion, believe me, emotion is your biggest number one enemy.
It is hard to control if you are trading too much. Over trading means emotional decisions which usually don't lead to happy endings.

If you over trade, you will be rekted and will be angry with the market.

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Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Trading shit coins is bad
Trading future with shit coins is worse

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December 09, 2022, 01:36:52 PM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Best is If you Open position everyday long or short keep the position Open few HOURS and cash Out the profit then forget about Market and btc go do your normal life things.
Biggest mistake traders do are this they Open positions like eth btc then those coins tend to move slow and while they waiting they might change their mind and making mistakes.
You should only focus on few HOURS how to cash out money from Market that's it.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.

I been making mistakes like i Open btc short when i know Market is up but still btc did not moved like few days so it means i did not make any money few days i was waiting like a fool instead of that If i was gona long and short other coins i would Made money everyday.

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.

But btc are great Market indicator so i use btc price as Market indicator to know when to long or short.

If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.

   - In short, you are implying that if bitcoin is to be turned into a daily income trading it is not an effective method. In this regard, if the equivalent of your money is below 100$ and you do this day trading, you will get very little, it depends on your knowledge of graph or chart analysis. Future trading is not advisable or applicable to newbies, because you will only get confused. After all, it is the opposite of spot trading.

So it seems that what you are suggesting is a good thing to do now to earn money every day is the scalping method, right? If this is the case, remember that it's also a bit risky, you might forget dude. Even if you are not scalping if you have 200$ to trade in Bitcoin, you can earn from this amount 5-10$ per day, depending on the increase and decrease in the value of bitcoin, this is based on my experience, even Just check your trading activity twice a day.

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Sorry, but it can't be possible and is not suitable for all traders. Remember that not all traders have a future in Futures Trading, they preferred to do spot trading as it was easier and less risky.

I think we are opposite to each other because I love Bitcoin and I keep this coin as my trading pair, not these shitcoins.
We are here to make money - it was right. And we do trade in the way we think we are comfortable, not in a way to become miserable.  

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December 09, 2022, 02:10:10 PM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Best is If you Open position everyday long or short keep the position Open few HOURS and cash Out the profit then forget about Market and btc go do your normal life things.
Biggest mistake traders do are this they Open positions like eth btc then those coins tend to move slow and while they waiting they might change their mind and making mistakes.
You should only focus on few HOURS how to cash out money from Market that's it.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.

I been making mistakes like i Open btc short when i know Market is up but still btc did not moved like few days so it means i did not make any money few days i was waiting like a fool instead of that If i was gona long and short other coins i would Made money everyday.

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.

But btc are great Market indicator so i use btc price as Market indicator to know when to long or short.

If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.

   - In short, you are implying that if bitcoin is to be turned into a daily income trading it is not an effective method. In this regard, if the equivalent of your money is below 100$ and you do this day trading, you will get very little, it depends on your knowledge of graph or chart analysis. Future trading is not advisable or applicable to newbies, because you will only get confused. After all, it is the opposite of spot trading.

So it seems that what you are suggesting is a good thing to do now to earn money every day is the scalping method, right? If this is the case, remember that it's also a bit risky, you might forget dude. Even if you are not scalping if you have 200$ to trade in Bitcoin, you can earn from this amount 5-10$ per day, depending on the increase and decrease in the value of bitcoin, this is based on my experience, even Just check your trading activity twice a day.


In short i use 20x Lev sometimes Even higher.
I make sure STOP LOSS will last long few hours or at least i try to make sure.
So i Open trade and usually 30-50% nothing special daily profit usually i hold position 3hours to 12hours.
I Open 2 trades usually daily one trade with stop loss closer and the other position with stop loss further.
I use 100-200$ per trade and my stop loss will be like 20$ loss If hit stop loss when i use 100$

So Simple and effective way sometimes my pos will hit sl but usually 5 trades of 7 are good not hit stop loss.

I dont see any reason why cant earn few thousends $ monthly with this method.

I dont overthink about Market all i do i try to do right entry timing to get at least some profit
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December 09, 2022, 03:47:23 PM
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In short i use 20x Lev sometimes Even higher.
I make sure STOP LOSS will last long few hours or at least i try to make sure.
So i Open trade and usually 30-50% nothing special daily profit usually i hold position 3hours to 12hours.
I Open 2 trades usually daily one trade with stop loss closer and the other position with stop loss further.
I use 100-200$ per trade and my stop loss will be like 20$ loss If hit stop loss when i use 100$

So Simple and effective way sometimes my pos will hit sl but usually 5 trades of 7 are good not hit stop loss.

I dont see any reason why cant earn few thousends $ monthly with this method.

I dont overthink about Market all i do i try to do right entry timing to get at least some profit

Let us suppose for a moment that you can actually get those results in a consistent basis, since you claim that you can get 30%-50% daily and it is nothing special for you to achieve this then we need to wonder, can the majority of the people get those results? And the answer should be clear and that is this is not possible, your profits need to come from somewhere or more specifically from someone, and as such what works for you may not necessarily work for someone else.

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I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.

Yeah right!
If that would be true and you were making money each day so easily, then
- you would not try to make pennies by selling signal servcies and you wouldn't be that desperate to offer 75% discount after jsut a week

...I think 130$ for start Will be fair monthly fee becouse you make this money back in 1-2 days and the rest of the days it's your own profit. ..
Let's get serious here If you want to join with my trading team then you can join with 33$ for start with 33$ you can change your life better...


- your predictions or signals posted in the same topic would have been accurate, not a straight fail 4 times in a row ending with a loss
In short, your history tell us you're one of the last persons to give advice on trading here and another lesson for newbies looking for a quick buck that in most case signal trading ends in them falling for scams, either with fake random hints or victims of a pump and dump schemes when they help others buy buying their shitcoins.
So, if you can make a few thousand a month just by playing with a hundred $ with your technique, why are you wasting your time selling it for 33$, a fraction of a normal day's profit? Rhetorical question, because you have already proven it doesn't work!

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December 09, 2022, 04:54:29 PM
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Focus on BTC, especially with the BTC dominance being so low.
This shows the focus will be mostly on Bitcoin.

If you trade, do either spot or leverage, and when using leverage use a maximum of 4x and don't leave positions open for longer than 1 week.

My 5 cents.
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Only it is not.  My portfolio has been in a stable decline over the past year.  This does not mean I am not hopeful, it only means I know and admit it is not a STABLE income.  When it finally starts rising however, it makes up for all these months of losses.

I wonder for how long can you continue thinking you can predict each and every Bitcoin short or long successfully.  For many of us, Dollar Cost Averaging is much more profitable than predicting the lowest or the highest points.  It always does wonders for me.  Buy, buy, buy.  It only takes a few minutes instead of hours of analysis and then all there is is a waiting game.

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That's why he kept empathising on staying away from btc even when he admit btc is a good market indicator.
If you are a futures trader despite your portfolio is down you can still make profit opening a long or short position.
Futures traders who actually understand the market properly profit from every market condition and that's what the OP is emphasising on but unfortunately not everyone in crypto trade Futures. Hence it is not the best way for some to earn stable income.

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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.

While you can definitely make life-changing money in crypto if you know what you're doing — the words "crypto", "trading", and "stable" doesn't really go well together. Even the best traders have bad trading days.
Trading can certainly change and improve the quality of one’s life, but it can also put you into deterioration if you are not able and good enough to manage the risk. However, if you can be a good and bad trader sometimes, that’s fair enough, at least you are still making money with crypto trading or investing.

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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
What do you mean, mate?
I don't think predicting market trends is a problem. It is the way to know your opportunity to buy or sell. Predicting is a necessary part of trading or investment. If you can't predict the market trends, you don't know when the best time to collect crypto assets and take the profits.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Almost all crypto coins move slowly in the current market condition, not only BTC.
If you are not familiar with future trading, sure you need to stay away. But if you know well it, why do you need to stay away?

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
If you are trading crypto coins, you can't expect stable income.
For me, the income from crypto trading is always hard to predict. Crypto price is very volatile and the market trend is unpredictable. It is the factor to make it difficult to get a stable income in crypto trading.


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These tips are for futures trading and are generally not suitable for beginners. Therefore, the problem is in the method more than being a good way to achieve profits or vice versa.
Opening futures contracts in highly volatile currencies and support and resistance points cannot be predicted well, which makes it better to invest in different methods such as day/spot trading.
The most recommendable thing is that you should really make yourself get deal with spot trades first before touching up futures because you cant really make yourself get a hold with futures if you do directly
deal with it, and this is where most newbies do really intend to do so because they are in rush on trying out to make profits and doesnt mind off about the risk on which futures could give out.
One thing is into their mind that they could make or gain profits in a short time as possible which it is really a very wrong mindset to have as a trader.
You arent doing good trades but rather you are already doing gambling because of that particular intent you do have in mind.

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December 09, 2022, 09:08:28 PM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Stay away from btc
Why?
Because you said you don't need to try to predict the market?
How about if I just hold the BTC and do my DCA strategy for the future? Where the price is potentially increasing? I don't want to miss that chance.

Dont try to predict Market too much.
If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Future trading is not for all because of the risk. That's why people prefer other type of trading or investment to suit their playstyles.

You should only focus on few HOURS how to cash out money from Market that's it.
How about if they have a job and don't have time to spend HOURS to check the market regularly? That's why long-term and HODL exist in the first place.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.
"Don't care" is really a bold statement and yeah that's your choice I guess.
And also not reading any news about Bitcoin is really weird for me.

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December 09, 2022, 09:09:11 PM
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OP, you have given all the advice that should NOT be done by plebs like us, ESPECIALLY during where and how the market currently is. NOW, it's time to save as much as we can and accumulate. There might be another crash, large or small, but the next months whether the crash happens, or doesn't happen, WILL be the time for ACCUMULATION = Buy and HODL. Tell me during 2025 if I'm wrong or not. Cool
As long as there are great opportunities in the market, then definitely accumulation for bitcoin and long term hodling will always be the best outlet. That way, you won’t have to mind the big and small market crash, or the short and long market crash, because if you are hodling potential coins and your portfolio is filled with bitcoin, that’s enough reason that you can optimize profits in the future.

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December 09, 2022, 09:12:22 PM
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Specific on the futures, for the newbies do not futures if you are new to it.

It is highly recommended that you shouldn't get into it. And this isn't only just for the newbies.

Also the old timers, if you cant bear the risk of futures. Just do not do it, I have seen a lot of lives ruined by it.
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December 09, 2022, 09:46:57 PM
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Specific on the futures, for the newbies do not futures if you are new to it.

It is highly recommended that you shouldn't get into it. And this isn't only just for the newbies.

Also the old timers, if you cant bear the risk of futures. Just do not do it, I have seen a lot of lives ruined by it.
Futures trading isn't for everyone, in fact, even experts never choose their life to be there but rather stay where they feel they are profitable.
It was indeed that newbies must know the huge risk in Futures trading and ask themselves if they are capable enough otherwise, never try it.
If OP is doing good in futures trading, then we have to accept also that we are different from him. Sometimes we think that some people are gifted and some could really take on risky tasks.

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December 09, 2022, 09:49:37 PM
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Specific on the futures, for the newbies do not futures if you are new to it.

It is highly recommended that you shouldn't get into it. And this isn't only just for the newbies.

Also the old timers, if you cant bear the risk of futures. Just do not do it, I have seen a lot of lives ruined by it.
I will try not to fall for futures trading although some strategies can be profitable too. Right now I tend to focus on long term investing rather than trading, but I can still take advantage of trading something if I have good momentum. Futures trading is indeed profitable, but the risk will be very high for those who do not know how to control their emotions and are too greedy. Ignore futures trading, this is my current way of staying focused on long term goals.

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December 09, 2022, 09:59:57 PM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Best is If you Open position everyday long or short keep the position Open few HOURS and cash Out the profit then forget about Market and btc go do your normal life things.
Biggest mistake traders do are this they Open positions like eth btc then those coins tend to move slow and while they waiting they might change their mind and making mistakes.
You should only focus on few HOURS how to cash out money from Market that's it.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.

I been making mistakes like i Open btc short when i know Market is up but still btc did not moved like few days so it means i did not make any money few days i was waiting like a fool instead of that If i was gona long and short other coins i would Made money everyday.

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.

But btc are great Market indicator so i use btc price as Market indicator to know when to long or short.

If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.
Do not just focus on making money, sometimes greed comes in when you are totally motivated with profits. Just grab every opportunity whatever the market gives, that way you will never have to compromise yourself. And for best results, stick to bitcoin. There will always be potential coins coming out in the market but do not give us enough guarantee to make us profitable in the end.

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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.

While you can definitely make life-changing money in crypto if you know what you're doing — the words "crypto", "trading", and "stable" doesn't really go well together. Even the best traders have bad trading days.
Its undeniable that there are money in trading, but its not always as it is. Trading may also means losing your money, that even skilled traders are not free from it. However, if your aim is to optimize profits, then understand that it won't be possible instantly. Stable income is good, but trading cannot guarantee it all the time.

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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.

While you can definitely make life-changing money in crypto if you know what you're doing — the words "crypto", "trading", and "stable" doesn't really go well together. Even the best traders have bad trading days.
Its undeniable that there are money in trading, but its not always as it is. Trading may also means losing your money, that even skilled traders are not free from it. However, if your aim is to optimize profits, then understand that it won't be possible instantly. Stable income is good, but trading cannot guarantee it all the time.
^We need a stable source of income and it could be trading is another way of making an income which you cannot rely on this alone.
Definitely right, it is undeniable that you can make a profit in trading but the question is, how consistent it is? Probably you have earned today but what if tomorrow you will lose? So just an amount that you can afford, trading is a very risky part, I would rather hold my asset than do trading which is holding as I can see is much more profitable than trading. However, OP has good advice that could learn those who wanted to make money in trading.
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Trading is not the only way to make "stable" money. One of the most common but not so highly paid methods would be having BUSD and then getting a fixed return for that on binance for example. I mean obviously not many would do that because it is far less than the inflation so why would you, but it shows you that its possible. Or how about proof of stake for ETH nowadays, it became possible a few months ago, and yes ETH does move, but you could make some income from it as well. All in all, its filled with methods of making a stream of income if you want to, but not with trading, that's just way too volatile.

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December 09, 2022, 11:34:09 PM
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.

While you can definitely make life-changing money in crypto if you know what you're doing — the words "crypto", "trading", and "stable" doesn't really go well together. Even the best traders have bad trading days.
Its undeniable that there are money in trading, but its not always as it is. Trading may also means losing your money, that even skilled traders are not free from it. However, if your aim is to optimize profits, then understand that it won't be possible instantly. Stable income is good, but trading cannot guarantee it all the time.
^We need a stable source of income and it could be trading is another way of making an income which you cannot rely on this alone.
Definitely right, it is undeniable that you can make a profit in trading but the question is, how consistent it is? Probably you have earned today but what if tomorrow you will lose? So just an amount that you can afford, trading is a very risky part, I would rather hold my asset than do trading which is holding as I can see is much more profitable than trading. However, OP has good advice that could learn those who wanted to make money in trading.
You cant really rely alone with trading if we do speak about on how to survive on day or in everyday living which we know that we do have needs and expenses for us to live which we know that relying yourself

with trading does really need that certain extent on which you could able to sustain.If you do find yourself that able to survive then it would really be that great but if not then it better and always wise
to have some day stable job because you cant really rely directly with trading alone specially if you arent really that good enough.
Trading is a very long process for you to find out whether you could sustain or not, lots have tried and lots had failed and only a few which they could really make out some
money through it.This is why its never been wise on dependent on something which cant really give out constant profits.

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December 09, 2022, 11:50:39 PM
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I will try not to fall for futures trading although some strategies can be profitable too. Right now I tend to focus on long term investing rather than trading, but I can still take advantage of trading something if I have good momentum. Futures trading is indeed profitable, but the risk will be very high for those who do not know how to control their emotions and are too greedy. Ignore futures trading, this is my current way of staying focused on long term goals.
It is not a must to try future trading, specifically if you doubt it. IMHO, future trading seems like gambling, totally hard to predict the price move and you risk all your funds till zero. I prefer spot trading that has a lower risk, at least my funds won't end at zero balance. So, besides long-term investment, spot trading will fit with us that don't want to take a too-high risk. Because of this reason, I support your idea to ignore future trading since it has too high risk for our funds.


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That's why he kept empathising on staying away from btc even when he admit btc is a good market indicator.
Bitcoin Futures is already risky enough.  Altcoin Futures are like playing roulette.

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This post is directed to future traders, and as a beginner, I don't even try bothering myself with trading of futures because I know and I've heard so much about the high risk and volatility involved in it.
I do understand your point a d the reason why you talked Bitcoin so down especially for future trading, most people might want to condemn you because you spoke so I'll of Bitcoin because they are believers and possibly holders of Bitcoin, without taking out time to read your message well.
I know of a friend who has to wait for two or possibly three days while trading futures with Bitcoin and this because it also takes too much time for the trade to git a stop loss (SL) or take profit (TP), and most times the moment the trade hits green, he wouldn't have to wait for tp but rather end the trade.
So I guess OP is trying to advice that, if you want to trade futures, do so with cryptos that wouldn't take much time to accertain it's outcome.

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In short i use 20x Lev sometimes Even higher.
I make sure STOP LOSS will last long few hours or at least i try to make sure.
So i Open trade and usually 30-50% nothing special daily profit usually i hold position 3hours to 12hours.
I Open 2 trades usually daily one trade with stop loss closer and the other position with stop loss further.
I use 100-200$ per trade and my stop loss will be like 20$ loss If hit stop loss when i use 100$

So Simple and effective way sometimes my pos will hit sl but usually 5 trades of 7 are good not hit stop loss.

I dont see any reason why cant earn few thousends $ monthly with this method.

I dont overthink about Market all i do i try to do right entry timing to get at least some profit


   - Because not all individual cryptocurrency traders are like you and can make a lot of money in this state of crypto income. The fact that you have made it a topic here cannot be considered credible because it can be thought that you are just telling a story. After all, you have not shown any link to make this topic that you are talking about credible mate.

Although I'm not saying that it's not good to use a stop loss, it's okay, but my point is that we all have different skill levels in understanding trading here. If you're making a lot of money trading with the strategy you're doing, that's good on your part, it's that simple.

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December 10, 2022, 05:57:57 AM
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Specific on the futures, for the newbies do not futures if you are new to it.

It is highly recommended that you shouldn't get into it. And this isn't only just for the newbies.

Also the old timers, if you cant bear the risk of futures. Just do not do it, I have seen a lot of lives ruined by it.
Futures trading isn't for everyone, in fact, even experts never choose their life to be there but rather stay where they feel they are profitable.
It was indeed that newbies must know the huge risk in Futures trading and ask themselves if they are capable enough otherwise, never try it.
Although I've seen a very few people that been doing this and doing well but still, they're not assured with profiting there. There's the good and bad days but more of a little profit.

That's why newbies can try it out but don't expect that you'll do good at it with your first tries. It takes a lot of time and money to be well on it or else, don't do it and get on the spot.

Specific on the futures, for the newbies do not futures if you are new to it.

It is highly recommended that you shouldn't get into it. And this isn't only just for the newbies.

Also the old timers, if you cant bear the risk of futures. Just do not do it, I have seen a lot of lives ruined by it.
I will try not to fall for futures trading although some strategies can be profitable too. Right now I tend to focus on long term investing rather than trading, but I can still take advantage of trading something if I have good momentum. Futures trading is indeed profitable, but the risk will be very high for those who do not know how to control their emotions and are too greedy. Ignore futures trading, this is my current way of staying focused on long term goals.
That's why I also chose to be an investor and it's passive and not stressing unlike going into trades and even more with futures. We get to choose where we're doing good and making better money.

I guess it is what it is when someone experiences how it goes with futures and has done being a long term investor.
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Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

Loooool, in cryptocurrency for futures trading, bitcoin is best suited for several objective reasons:

1- Bitcoin has a historical bull trend and never falls below certain levels that were set in the past bear cycle.
2- Bitcoin is easy to predict in terms of price bands. For example, if I am leveraging and risking my position to liquidate at the $3,000 mark, then I can rest assured because there is a 99% chance that this liquidation will never occur.
3 -Bitcoin never falls endlessly down, by 97-99%, as many altcoins do, which makes it a good asset to trade, because the trader more or less understands the market framework.

What you should definitely stay away from in futures trading is altcoins, because they are centralized, often dependent on one person, extremely volatile and have no bottom. Even investing in altcoins is risky, let alone trading on margin.


Plus does OP truly believe plebs like us can beat those traders who are indeed more capable, traders who have more capital to go through long bear markets, more data behind what's truly happening, and their market bots that automate their profitable trades? Beat them simply by drawing lines in a chart, and following some self-written, arbitrary trading rules? I believe plebs must keep everything simple, Buy the DIP, and HODL.

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December 10, 2022, 08:33:17 AM
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In short i use 20x Lev sometimes Even higher.
I make sure STOP LOSS will last long few hours or at least i try to make sure.
So i Open trade and usually 30-50% nothing special daily profit usually i hold position 3hours to 12hours.
I Open 2 trades usually daily one trade with stop loss closer and the other position with stop loss further.
I use 100-200$ per trade and my stop loss will be like 20$ loss If hit stop loss when i use 100$

So Simple and effective way sometimes my pos will hit sl but usually 5 trades of 7 are good not hit stop loss.

I dont see any reason why cant earn few thousends $ monthly with this method.

I dont overthink about Market all i do i try to do right entry timing to get at least some profit


   - Because not all individual cryptocurrency traders are like you and can make a lot of money in this state of crypto income. The fact that you have made it a topic here cannot be considered credible because it can be thought that you are just telling a story. After all, you have not shown any link to make this topic that you are talking about credible mate.

Although I'm not saying that it's not good to use a stop loss, it's okay, but my point is that we all have different skill levels in understanding trading here. If you're making a lot of money trading with the strategy you're doing, that's good on your part, it's that simple.
As crypto traders, we also need capital, and there will be a difference in how much money we use every time we trade. The profit we generate will also be different because it depends on the capital we use. He can say he can earn thousands of dollars trading once because he uses bigger capital than us. And that's what makes our profits different.

Using a stop loss is okay to anticipate big losses that can occur at any time. But what's more important is how we can analyze the market to minimize those losses. And with the help of a stop loss, it will be useful for us in trading, and each of us will have a different strategy.
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...The problem with most retail traders is that they set too high expectations for their trades, as a result, the market does not reach their take-profit levels and the trade instantly turns from profitable to losing, although it had the potential to extract some profit.

This really confirms once again the words that the main problem that leads to loss is greed. Thus, without fixing a profit at the level of 5-10%, after which a profitable position becomes unprofitable, the trader turns into an investor at one moment.

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December 10, 2022, 12:11:49 PM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
What do you mean, mate?
I don't think predicting market trends is a problem. It is the way to know your opportunity to buy or sell. Predicting is a necessary part of trading or investment. If you can't predict the market trends, you don't know when the best time to collect crypto assets and take the profits.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Almost all crypto coins move slowly in the current market condition, not only BTC.
If you are not familiar with future trading, sure you need to stay away. But if you know well it, why do you need to stay away?

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
If you are trading crypto coins, you can't expect stable income.
For me, the income from crypto trading is always hard to predict. Crypto price is very volatile and the market trend is unpredictable. It is the factor to make it difficult to get a stable income in crypto trading.




I mean yes i can see that btc are high but it don't mean it will drop down immediately.
Sometimes you have to wait for btc like Week when it start moving.
It's all good my trading method are just Im eating everyday.
I got no time to wait when btc start moving so i trade coins everyday what are volatile enough.

It works for me and Im sure it works others If you want to learn and understood.
My point is: i got to eat everyday so i Open one position for few HOURS then i check again and will decide how much money i'll take it from the table and closing the trade.

My mindset is Simple, i Open exchanger and will decide wich coin Will give me some money in next few HOURS.

My margin are 100-200 per trade so with 30%profit per trade Im happy enough.
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OP, you have given all the advice that should NOT be done by plebs like us, ESPECIALLY during where and how the market currently is. NOW, it's time to save as much as we can and accumulate. There might be another crash, large or small, but the next months whether the crash happens, or doesn't happen, WILL be the time for ACCUMULATION = Buy and HODL. Tell me during 2025 if I'm wrong or not. Cool
As long as there are great opportunities in the market, then definitely accumulation for bitcoin and long term hodling will always be the best outlet. That way, you won’t have to mind the big and small market crash, or the short and long market crash, because if you are hodling potential coins and your portfolio is filled with bitcoin, that’s enough reason that you can optimize profits in the future.
Exactly, accumulating and holding is more suitable than futures trading at this point, but I like to pay attention to market news, especially Fuds or someone's catastrophic failures in the market. I am also a holder, but I want to accumulate bitcoin at the cheapest and lowest possible price, so I want to take advantage of every opportunity. By following market news, we will avail and save a lot of money because the same amount of money you will buy more bitcoins when the bitcoin price drops.

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accumulating and holding is more suitable than futures trading at this point, but I like to pay attention to market news, especially Fuds or someone's catastrophic failures in the market. I am also a holder, but I want to accumulate bitcoin at the cheapest and lowest possible price, so I want to take advantage of every opportunity. By following market news, we will avail and save a lot of money because the same amount of money you will buy more bitcoins when the bitcoin price drops.
Holding must be superior than any other trading strategies. Futures may seem like highly profitable one but when you cannot keep your technical part up all the times, a highly profitable one will turn down as a highly losable one. OP sounds like making big profits in futures trading but I am not ready to listen to them even they show verifiable proof for their words.

Coming back to your scenarios, you may not need to bother about news and market sentiments when you are holding for years. Now, we read people are holding for decade and do you think such people still bother FUDs? I mean that your level of profits and level of peace of mind will purely depend on how long you remain as a holder of bitcoins.
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accumulating and holding is more suitable than futures trading at this point, but I like to pay attention to market news, especially Fuds or someone's catastrophic failures in the market. I am also a holder, but I want to accumulate bitcoin at the cheapest and lowest possible price, so I want to take advantage of every opportunity. By following market news, we will avail and save a lot of money because the same amount of money you will buy more bitcoins when the bitcoin price drops.
Holding must be superior than any other trading strategies. Futures may seem like highly profitable one but when you cannot keep your technical part up all the times, a highly profitable one will turn down as a highly losable one. OP sounds like making big profits in futures trading but I am not ready to listen to them even they show verifiable proof for their words.

Coming back to your scenarios, you may not need to bother about news and market sentiments when you are holding for years. Now, we read people are holding for decade and do you think such people still bother FUDs? I mean that your level of profits and level of peace of mind will purely depend on how long you remain as a holder of bitcoins.
Futures would be hard for inexperienced traders to do especially if you can't deal with the volatility of the market and couldn't go along with the prices of crypto. It would be better to buy and hold for a long-term run because potential coins like Bitcoin are worth holding and would be good for long-term investment. You only have to be patient. It's fine to check on prices but you should know how to manage your emotions.
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No one needs advice, or shares advice if they are really making money out of it. Just obey and listen the facts and traders are good to go. The basic thing that any trader needs to understand is that, don’t go for money. I mean don’t be greedy. No one can become millionaire overnight. Take calculated risk and trade the amount that you can afford to lose. It’s fine to at first lose, in order to understand the process. At last be confident and be cautious to the market.

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Futures would be hard for inexperienced traders to do especially if you can't deal with the volatility of the market and couldn't go along with the prices of crypto...

In this case, an inexperienced trader will lose his deposit very quickly. Futures trading is dangerous not only for beginners, but also for experienced traders who also lose their money. But an experienced trader has the advantage that he uses risk management, which limits losses.

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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
These are meaningful lessons and reasons. Well, sometimes, the result will depend on how we start the way and what we expect the goal. If we are only focusing on how to be rich and make money so highly in the quick time, we will be hurried in deciding something. And the result will be losing.

For future trading, this is always a high risk to do, moreover for newbies or someone who is starting to do future trading. This is a high risk, very risky. I do agree that futures trading may be good on altcoins, but once more, the change in altcoins are also very drastic and this will be going to come opposite for us, so we must be also ready for all probabilities happen in the market and make the solution quickly.
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These are meaningful lessons and reasons. Well, sometimes, the result will depend on how we start the way and what we expect the goal. If we are only focusing on how to be rich and make money so highly in the quick time, we will be hurried in deciding something. And the result will be losing.

For future trading, this is always a high risk to do, moreover for newbies or someone who is starting to do future trading. This is a high risk, very risky. I do agree that futures trading may be good on altcoins, but once more, the change in altcoins are also very drastic and this will be going to come opposite for us, so we must be also ready for all probabilities happen in the market and make the solution quickly.

make money fast and want to get rich overnight. that is the thought of a newbie who doesn't know the full extent of the crypto world. Wealth may be built overnight, but all of that also takes process. Moreover, trading also requires qualified skills and strong capital to be able to make profits consistently.
Especially when talking about futures trading which incidentally has a bigger risk and could lose everything if you can't set a strategy on futures trading. The risk is very big if you are not ready, crypto price fluctuations will run quickly and if you are not ready Futures trading will be liquidated and capital will disappear.

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This is possible if you don't have anything to do apart from watching your screen for the whole day. If you don't have a job, you can do this and stare at your screen, and what you're saying is very sensible because ETH and BTC only moves fast whenever something is happening big, but most of the time they are slow movers and can go for weeks without much % change. I would have done this too if I don't have a full-time job: learn trading, get some profits, then call it a day but nah, I will still work with my job until I get tired of it and maybe venture into investing once I have the capital.

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This is possible if you don't have anything to do apart from watching your screen for the whole day. If you don't have a job, you can do this and stare at your screen, and what you're saying is very sensible because ETH and BTC only moves fast whenever something is happening big, but most of the time they are slow movers and can go for weeks without much % change. I would have done this too if I don't have a full-time job: learn trading, get some profits, then call it a day but nah, I will still work with my job until I get tired of it and maybe venture into investing once I have the capital.

everyone has their own preference on this market. but what i don't want about OP's advice is not to read the news. in my opinion, it is best if you know what is happening around you, because that would give you idea where the market is heading. just like the failure of FTX, if you don't know such news, you would wonder why the market was going down at that time period.
trading is not for all. if you have stable job, not really advisable to get into trading wherein you have no assurance of getting profits. much better if you can do a side job in trading to hone your skills and also do your regular job. in time, you will gain such trading skills and tricks that will give you edge on this venture.

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Dont try to predict Market too much.
This can't be helped, we're in a speculative market and people won't do any other thing but predict. But sometimes, you're right that there's no need to predict a lot of the market.
It's stressful and we can do nothing whatever the market shows us. So, to avoid the stressful red days of the market, just keep yourself away from the market and don't think of it a lot.

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The future players tactics should be different as compared to the normal traders.Because the market response was the cause of the future.It’s essential to be active in the future trading,to withdraw when the market was change from normal stand to the extreme conditions.When the market was responding green or red both affect the person involved to the future trading.

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This is possible if you don't have anything to do apart from watching your screen for the whole day. If you don't have a job, you can do this and stare at your screen, and what you're saying is very sensible because ETH and BTC only moves fast whenever something is happening big, but most of the time they are slow movers and can go for weeks without much % change. I would have done this too if I don't have a full-time job: learn trading, get some profits, then call it a day but nah, I will still work with my job until I get tired of it and maybe venture into investing once I have the capital.
Yes, indeed something like this will take a lot of time for us to stay under control and also look at price movement charts. You are right if this can be done by people who only focus on trading and have no other job or in other words trading is their main income. But if we have other jobs, it will be difficult to divide the time and we can use it during holidays or free time. And even for free time only a few hours to stay in front of the screen (time is limited).

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December 11, 2022, 12:26:38 PM
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Dont try to predict Market too much.
This can't be helped, we're in a speculative market and people won't do any other thing but predict. But sometimes, you're right that there's no need to predict a lot of the market.
It's stressful and we can do nothing whatever the market shows us. So, to avoid the stressful red days of the market, just keep yourself away from the market and don't think of it a lot.

When we predict too much in the market, it will create a lot of noise . You will then not follow your strategy even though it was met since you predicted too much. Just keep it simple, see only what you can see. This is mostly known when you keep trading for a few years as you think you need a new approach or strategy as you get bored with your current strategy. Learn to rest also and the best time is the red days . A lot of traders when on a downtrend will be away and take a vacation as they know that they will be losing money on that trend.
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December 11, 2022, 12:59:50 PM
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accumulating and holding is more suitable than futures trading at this point, but I like to pay attention to market news, especially Fuds or someone's catastrophic failures in the market. I am also a holder, but I want to accumulate bitcoin at the cheapest and lowest possible price, so I want to take advantage of every opportunity. By following market news, we will avail and save a lot of money because the same amount of money you will buy more bitcoins when the bitcoin price drops.
Holding must be superior than any other trading strategies. Futures may seem like highly profitable one but when you cannot keep your technical part up all the times, a highly profitable one will turn down as a highly losable one. OP sounds like making big profits in futures trading but I am not ready to listen to them even they show verifiable proof for their words.

Coming back to your scenarios, you may not need to bother about news and market sentiments when you are holding for years. Now, we read people are holding for decade and do you think such people still bother FUDs? I mean that your level of profits and level of peace of mind will purely depend on how long you remain as a holder of bitcoins.
Futures would be hard for inexperienced traders to do especially if you can't deal with the volatility of the market and couldn't go along with the prices of crypto. It would be better to buy and hold for a long-term run because potential coins like Bitcoin are worth holding and would be good for long-term investment. You only have to be patient. It's fine to check on prices but you should know how to manage your emotions.
Even for professional traders, futures trading will always be difficult for them. Professional traders also cannot guarantee that they can make profits continuously, there will still be losses in futures trading. I have not seen anyone claim that they always win in trading, but as for holding, if you are consistent, you will never lose a bitcoin holding.

@RealMalatesta, Decade holders can ignore all the news, good or bad, but as a regular accumulator like me, I would be interested in Fuds because for me Fuds are opportunities.


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December 11, 2022, 05:44:43 PM
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Dont try to predict Market too much.
This can't be helped, we're in a speculative market and people won't do any other thing but predict. But sometimes, you're right that there's no need to predict a lot of the market.
It's stressful and we can do nothing whatever the market shows us. So, to avoid the stressful red days of the market, just keep yourself away from the market and don't think of it a lot.

When we predict too much in the market, it will create a lot of noise . You will then not follow your strategy even though it was met since you predicted too much. Just keep it simple, see only what you can see. This is mostly known when you keep trading for a few years as you think you need a new approach or strategy as you get bored with your current strategy. Learn to rest also and the best time is the red days . A lot of traders when on a downtrend will be away and take a vacation as they know that they will be losing money on that trend.

Most traders are having are struggling during this kind of season and even professional traders are having a hard time dealing with the bearish market. Checking and predicting the price all the time might be the reason for you to lose track so you better keep calm and wait for the market recovery to happen. If you trust the coin that you're holding, then the best thing to do is to wait and have patience until the market reach a better situation again. Weak hands won't make you rich so if you want to gain good profit, you should be emotionally prepared for the possibilities.
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It is just plain simple that if people are into long-term, just go with Bitcoin. If you are actively trading whether it is really your expertise or just your hobby, then it could be different coins every day. I think there are some people misinterpreting what you're saying or what you're trying to imply.
Day trading did not work for me so I just went up straight hold for Bitcoin. I understand that taking it slow does not work for you and you decided to day trade or like you mentioned "trade coins everyday". Everyone has their own strategy in the end.
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December 11, 2022, 07:26:57 PM
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Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

Please don't stay away from BTC since if you can predict BTC moves you can predict the most market is going. In fact, most of traders that I have followed what they do first is predict BTC moving after that they start to analyze the altcoin. Bitcoin waves is real.
My thoughts too. Sticking with bitcoin is probably something way to go towardd trading. Perhaps OP is more comfortable with trading altcoins and thats good enough for him or her so, I won't question it but even in doing that, it doenst do you much good to not look at the moves btc is making.
Most of the movements you observe in other coins are highly influenced by the news that plays out in btc and so, why should you ignore bitcoin.

Also, about the Jews, of course there are lots of fud being spread out as news and some do have effects on traders which in turn affects the market and news remains very much a part of fundamental analysis so how then do you not do that. Perhaps your more about the technical analysis if you do ay of those at all but, a combination of both isn't a bad idea.

Haven't said this, I'll say whatever works is what you should be doing but first, test the methods before relying on them.

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December 11, 2022, 08:06:56 PM
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Control your emotion, believe me, emotion is your biggest number one enemy. Especially the fear and greed know how to stop loss and know how to take profit.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

Please don't stay away from BTC since if you can predict BTC moves you can predict the most market is going. In fact, most of traders that I have followed what they do first is predict BTC moving after that they start to analyze the altcoin. Bitcoin waves is real.

Good Luck Smiley

Mate, if its slow mover then definitely easy to predict the window of its landing price. I think that will easily make some good cash for ya! However, I get it why are you saying that and that's because of the current market situation for the bitcoin. The case is reverse actually, bitcoin is very volatile and easily making drifts up and down by 2-5% biweekly basis, or may be more. If you find proper sweet spot to make an entry for the futures then definitely it can payback huge amount of money.

Moreover, trading in any instrument is basically same the TA and FA story. What hardens the traders life is consistency and patience breakage! If they loose any of it, the trade is gonna get messed up.
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It is just plain simple that if people are into long-term, just go with Bitcoin. If you are actively trading whether it is really your expertise or just your hobby, then it could be different coins every day. I think there are some people misinterpreting what you're saying or what you're trying to imply.
Day trading did not work for me so I just went up straight hold for Bitcoin. I understand that taking it slow does not work for you and you decided to day trade or like you mentioned "trade coins everyday". Everyone has their own strategy in the end.
After all the panic created against stable coins, I can totally day that having Bitcoin as you focus is better because the whole market is at risk and only Bitcoin remains decentralized which I believe many will also shift into this option if there’s another stable coin collapsed. Long term holding is meant for Bitcoin, while trading should only be with altcoins, don’t hold on any exchanges better to store it on your own wallet to be more secured.
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As is the case in all markets, we must be careful and follow the advice that we were able to trade successfully and learn from the experiences of others, so my advice to everyone who wants to make money through trading is to look for a good and reliable trading platform to trade through, as many fraudulent platforms have spread in our days These, which have attractive offers, we must always be vigilant when depositing our money in a platform, also if you are a trader who wants to earn money, you must develop a risk management strategy, as it is one of the most important tips and you must diversify your trading in different currencies as it is wrong to trade a currency several times in a row, and the trader must not be greedy and collect profits as soon as he gets them, also trading needs patience and you cannot achieve a large profit if you are not committed to a well-thought-out plan and strategy

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Op your method of making money might be different from other people method of making money, so what i want you to understand is that, everyone is of different opinions and strategies of been successful in the cryptocurrency market, so it's very good for you to device your own method, but imposing on other people as ever it's the best criteria or method of been progress in trading is not obtainable from my perspective.

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Exactly, accumulating and holding is more suitable than futures trading at this point, but I like to pay attention to market news, especially Fuds or someone's catastrophic failures in the market. I am also a holder, but I want to accumulate bitcoin at the cheapest and lowest possible price, so I want to take advantage of every opportunity. By following market news, we will avail and save a lot of money because the same amount of money you will buy more bitcoins when the bitcoin price drops.

Accumulating some Bitcoin at the very lows of its price in the bear market will always make you more profits than any other means of making money in the market. With accumulating, you don't even have to pay attention to Market news.

Just go on with your regular activities in life and whenever the market takes a major hit, you can just jump in to buy some Bitcoin. The only advice anyone here to make money should focus on is getting into good position now that Bitcoin is low and fill up their bags.

Nobody should be worries about what the price will be in future as it'll always be moving upwards. More money will be coming into the market and Bitcoin will be among the project that benefits from this new money.

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It is just plain simple that if people are into long-term, just go with Bitcoin. If you are actively trading whether it is really your expertise or just your hobby, then it could be different coins every day. I think there are some people misinterpreting what you're saying or what you're trying to imply.
Day trading did not work for me so I just went up straight hold for Bitcoin. I understand that taking it slow does not work for you and you decided to day trade or like you mentioned "trade coins everyday". Everyone has their own strategy in the end.
It is a need for us where we become productive and profitable for a reason that not all are become traders or really wanted to be. Just like you, you preferred to become an investor and holder which I believe was the best choice. We have to live in a place that we think we are comfortable with. Some impatient individuals will choose to trade either.

However, all of these are totally a way to earn a profit. But there is one thing I could say - keep our greediness not to the maximum level otherwise, this could lead us to lose.



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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.
This where greed begins. There is no assurance crypto will guarantee a stable income that flows everyday. In our regular business we experience losses how much more a market with no fixed direction. Future trading works well with BTC just that the trader will have to know the exact timing to access the market to stay in profit.

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If you use btc futures without having sufficient analytical skills, you will not get profits but will experience losses, making your capital run out. Apart from that, you also have to control your emotions in trading because this has made many people lose opportunities to make profits. But as traders, we have our own way of analyzing the market to find a time when we can trade.
That's why i do emphasis to people that going into trading without knowing the concept of trading will deprived you many things such as a trading without direction, i believe that that trading have to do with different strategies and if you know the rudiments of trading you wont venture into lost subsequently, for someone to make a tangible profit you will learn and understand the advantages and disadvantages of trading.

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Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
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I don't agree with this. Even if Bitcoin or other pairs move too slowly, you can still make money if you are a good trader.
Pair that is moving slow will not matter if you are doing trading, it will always depends on your analysis, technical analysis is the best if you are just for money and doing trades, always trust your analysis.

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It's okay to do futures trading if you are well versed in this matter and you know something about technical analysis, but if you know yourself that you don't have enough ideas or knowledge about it and lack knowledge about technical analysis is not advisable for newbies.

Now, in carrying out the trading activity to generate income at least in this industry, since we are still in the current bear market, we have many methods that can be done and consider first is scalping we can earn quickly here with this strategy but also quickly our assets will be lost if you make a slow decision to buy and sell here and you must be sure of the coins you will trade as well. Then the trading position is also good, it's safer compared to the scalping method in my opinion. But you should know how to use your emotions correctly in this matter so that you don't waste or lose your assets dude.

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I been making mistakes like i Open btc short when i know Market is up but still btc did not moved like few days so it means i did not make any money few days i was waiting like a fool instead of that If i was gona long and short other coins i would Made money everyday.


To know the trend of the market is a good strategy and this will help you not to trade opposite market. Trading opposite market is the reason for loses. So shorting a bear market will get your order filled faster and you cash out. I believe the aspect that you don't need to waste time in the market to take your profit but some order takes longer time for it to go your direction. In any case, ideally I stop my order before the next opening of trade.
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To know the trend of the market is a good strategy and this will help you not to trade opposite market. Trading opposite market is the reason for loses. So shorting a bear market will get your order filled faster and you cash out. I believe the aspect that you don't need to waste time in the market to take your profit but some order takes longer time for it to go your direction. In any case, ideally I stop my order before the next opening of trade.
making trades must determine what strategy you want to use. from your explanation maybe you use a short-term strategy and some orders as mid-term.
a bearish market like today makes you buy more because it is a good opportunity to double your profits. The opposite market is indeed not good to fight, we just need to follow the flow and take advantage of the opposite market. Stop your order if the target is reached or has been hit by a stop loss, it will be better than having to hold longer without a strategy.
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Control your emotion, believe me, emotion is your biggest number one enemy. Especially the fear and greed know how to stop loss and know how to take profit.
You're spot on! Emotion is the game killer and OP should watch it. I sensed they're already getting carried away with the little winnings they're recording. My two cents to OP will be that they shouldn't allow their emotions get in the way. Treat every winning as a normal thing. Don't see it as something extraordinary.

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Please don't stay away from BTC since if you can predict BTC moves you can predict the most market is going. In fact, most of traders that I have followed what they do first is predict BTC moving after that they start to analyze the altcoin. Bitcoin waves is real.
You're right. That's how I follow trades most times. I look at what Bitcoin is doing to gauge what altcoins should be doing because once Bitcoin catches cold or sneezes others get the infection, so to say.

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The future players tactics should be different as compared to the normal traders.Because the market response was the cause of the future.It’s essential to be active in the future trading,to withdraw when the market was change from normal stand to the extreme conditions.When the market was responding green or red both affect the person involved to the future trading.

Futures trading strategy is very serious if the trader uses high leverage then he must be active to avoid any unwanted results. And if the market is at extreme levels of volatility, then high leverage should be avoided at that time. I don't do futures trading regularly but sometimes I take a position if I see the market situation is a bit better. When we hit the target as expected, I close the position and exit the market.
Because emotion is a very big factor in futures trading, you will never be able to retain profits until you can control emotions in futures trading.

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Control your emotion, believe me, emotion is your biggest number one enemy. Especially the fear and greed know how to stop loss and know how to take profit.

This is the single and greatest advice that anyone must have- control your emotions and consider the market as something that is natural. Remember that cryptocurrencies are the most volatile currency- they change their prices at any given time, as compared to stocks where there is only as definite time where people can trade.

Though this may be the case, it is relatively difficult to take hold of one's emotions especially if that person trades or has hundreds to millions of dollars worth of BTC in their wallet. Like the slightest increase/decrease on the price could imply a loss/gain of thousands of dollars on their end. While that may be the case, it is important to consider that on top of having courage and control over your emotions, a proper construction of a contingency plan is essential.

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No one needs advice, or shares advice if they are really making money out of it. Just obey and listen the facts and traders are good to go. The basic thing that any trader needs to understand is that, don’t go for money. I mean don’t be greedy. No one can become millionaire overnight. Take calculated risk and trade the amount that you can afford to lose. It’s fine to at first lose, in order to understand the process. At last be confident and be cautious to the market.
I think when it comes to trading in a very unpredictable market, no one is considered expert or professional in the real sense. Everyone here acts as a pleb, trying to win over the market with no guaranteed results. That is why if you want to create good trades, never go with money. Avoid being greedy and never chase profits all the time. Just stay calm and focus on the market, and stick to bitcoin. And never lost your patience as it’s always the best key to succeed.
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Dont try to predict Market too much.
Predicting the market is one of the ways we analyze the market. But you are right, when we are too much predicting, we will get worse conditions dizzy, stressed, and make no focus more on the market goal. It is needed to make analyze the market effectively.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
I am not sure to trade in Futures Market, moreover for everyone who are lack knowledge and ability to stay away from the Futures Market. This is risky, high risk.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.
Oh, I see, this will be good enough for the daily focus and daily target to earn money, so we can cash out every day. This seems to be for daily trader purposes.

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No one needs advice, or shares advice if they are really making money out of it. Just obey and listen the facts and traders are good to go. The basic thing that any trader needs to understand is that, don’t go for money. I mean don’t be greedy. No one can become millionaire overnight. Take calculated risk and trade the amount that you can afford to lose. It’s fine to at first lose, in order to understand the process. At last be confident and be cautious to the market.
I think when it comes to trading in a very unpredictable market, no one is considered expert or professional in the real sense. Everyone here acts as a pleb, trying to win over the market with no guaranteed results. That is why if you want to create good trades, never go with money. Avoid being greedy and never chase profits all the time. Just stay calm and focus on the market, and stick to bitcoin. And never lost your patience as it’s always the best key to succeed.
Sticking to Bitcoin would be hard since there would really be those people who would be testing out their fate when it comes on switching or touching up altcoins which is really that a very common behavior for

those current crypto investors that we do have in the market today, it is really that evident or something could be seen if we do pertain about market capitalization and volume which you could
really see that it is really a demand or consideration on there.
People do really just ends up on being greedy on the time that they do make out some gains.They do forgot on having that risk management thing along the way.
Somehow as a human being then its not really something that could be avoided for longing to make even more profits or simply with money.
Just take it slow and dont make yourself rushed on doing things.

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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.
This where greed begins. There is no assurance crypto will guarantee a stable income that flows everyday. In our regular business we experience losses how much more a market with no fixed direction. Future trading works well with BTC just that the trader will have to know the exact timing to access the market to stay in profit.
Actually you are right in your conception over manual business getting lose, but you can't compare the lost of manual business and trading, because the lose in trading might be efficient than the one in the business, but let us just consider both as a risk, and if you don't get lose in trading what should be the remedy is to study and comprehend the rudiments of trading before venturing into it, so one of the factors while some get lost in any kind trading they venture into is the ability to peruse into it and as well known the functionalities of trading before enrolling in it.

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Anyways for each crypto users, whatever floats their boats anyway. Some works for others and some does not work for some people as well.

I missed those days when I was still learning day trading, but meh I doubt that I will be back to learning it again.
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Few years ago people here in Bitcointalk are staying away from futures. Now I see an increasing number of profitable future traders here in Bitcointalk. May I know how what is your win rate for example in 20 trades or 10 trades how many are wins and loss (liquidated or hit by stop loss)?

Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Best is If you Open position everyday long or short keep the position Open few HOURS and cash Out the profit then forget about Market and btc go do your normal life things.
Biggest mistake traders do are this they Open positions like eth btc then those coins tend to move slow and while they waiting they might change their mind and making mistakes.
You should only focus on few HOURS how to cash out money from Market that's it.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.

I been making mistakes like i Open btc short when i know Market is up but still btc did not moved like few days so it means i did not make any money few days i was waiting like a fool instead of that If i was gona long and short other coins i would Made money everyday.

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.

But btc are great Market indicator so i use btc price as Market indicator to know when to long or short.

If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.
This where greed begins. There is no assurance crypto will guarantee a stable income that flows everyday. In our regular business we experience losses how much more a market with no fixed direction. Future trading works well with BTC just that the trader will have to know the exact timing to access the market to stay in profit.
Actually you are right in your conception over manual business getting lose, but you can't compare the lost of manual business and trading, because the lose in trading might be efficient than the one in the business, but let us just consider both as a risk, and if you don't get lose in trading what should be the remedy is to study and comprehend the rudiments of trading before venturing into it, so one of the factors while some get lost in any kind trading they venture into is the ability to peruse into it and as well known the functionalities of trading before enrolling in it.
That's why I don't think we can stop learning even though in some moments when trading we get profit,
it is very important to keep learning because trading is not easy,
Losing in real trading is also normal and we will not always be profitable

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December 15, 2022, 05:11:19 PM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

If you want to make huge amount of money, then you gonna have to take high risks. I mean if the expected return is high, then only you will make more money right? Nevertheless if you are capable enough to bear losses, then only try this path, else when the coins will turn into pebbles, no one can gurantee that.
Also Bitcoins are for slow investment to be honest. But atleast here the profits are guranteed. Let’s hope for the best and see how far we can go.

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December 16, 2022, 08:32:42 AM
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Few years ago people here in Bitcointalk are staying away from futures. Now I see an increasing number of profitable future traders here in Bitcointalk. May I know how what is your win rate for example in 20 trades or 10 trades how many are wins and loss (liquidated or hit by stop loss)?
I think that's because people back in time are still a noob but many years have past and these people already gain a lot of experience and knowledge. They are now ready to engage in harder things but I think there are also a good number of newbies who join in.

This is very alarming but if there is no way to stop them then they themselves can once they incur a big loss in a short period of time. Before we engage in the real thing, it's important to practice first using the demo version. Once you saw that your wins are more than your losses then maybe that is the time to take baby steps in the real thing by using small capital. Increase it only once your results mostly win.

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December 16, 2022, 09:28:29 AM
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.


I don't believe you that the most important in crypto to stable income everyday because that is not main reason why crypto was created, I think it was created to serve as alternative to fiat currency, so things can get easier in term of transaction not to involve the third parties. Now that everyone aim is to make profit from crypto that doesn't necessary you make the profit everybody but your target should always be how will you make that big profits  from crypto.it doesn't necessarily you make income everyday in crypto once you can also make huge profits one day.
btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.
If you have huge amounts of money and you want to trade Bitcoin is not that slow in making reasonable profit from it, but if you are investing small amount of money you found it difficult to make some reasonable profits. at is why you see that Bitcoin always slow to increase in price.

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December 16, 2022, 10:38:26 AM
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Few years ago people here in Bitcointalk are staying away from futures. Now I see an increasing number of profitable future traders here in Bitcointalk. May I know how what is your win rate for example in 20 trades or 10 trades how many are wins and loss (liquidated or hit by stop loss)?
I think that's because people back in time are still a noob but many years have past and these people already gain a lot of experience and knowledge. They are now ready to engage in harder things but I think there are also a good number of newbies who join in.
This is why I don't blame newbies for their fault but rather help them to understand how this happened because it was the same experience we did before. Fortunately, we learn from our mistakes and make good trades after. But those who never change their way will remain failures in their goals. 
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This is very alarming but if there is no way to stop them then they themselves can once they incur a big loss in a short period of time. Before we engage in the real thing, it's important to practice first using the demo version. Once you saw that your wins are more than your losses then maybe that is the time to take baby steps in the real thing by using small capital. Increase it only once your results mostly win.
Therefore, we let these people learn from what they are doing now and hope for a change someday. Because I believe that their experience teaches and guides them to the right path. If we are in trading for several months and still suffering big losses, it was an indication that this is not for us. In some cases, we also have to accept that this field isn't for us and that we need to give up and look at what is best for us.

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December 16, 2022, 11:03:14 AM
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
how can you make a stable profit if you don't seem to have much faith in bitcoin?
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Stay away from btc


If you said bitcoin was slow moving I would say that's what you want for steady profits.
because the movement of bitcoin is a little slow but it sure gives the best and is more stable compared to shitcoin.
and all coin, altcoin or shitcoin prices still depend on btc. if you stay away from btc do you really not think about it.

and it looks like the way you gave is not good for beginners.

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December 16, 2022, 11:13:05 AM
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Just wanna add up that not all the traders only wants short term trades, like scalping, and day trading, I think the one you were trying to say OP are those who enter a position for a long term with a very low leverage, like 3x leverage to avoid early liquidation. We're in a bear market, everything moves slow because prices keeps dumping and only pumps a little to gives us a bull trap setup.

Trading is a great way to make profits but expecting to get big profits overnight when you're just a beginner is a very bad mindset to have.
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December 16, 2022, 11:24:37 AM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
What do you mean, mate?
I don't think predicting market trends is a problem. It is the way to know your opportunity to buy or sell. Predicting is a necessary part of trading or investment. If you can't predict the market trends, you don't know when the best time to collect crypto assets and take the profits.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Almost all crypto coins move slowly in the current market condition, not only BTC.
If you are not familiar with future trading, sure you need to stay away. But if you know well it, why do you need to stay away?

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
If you are trading crypto coins, you can't expect stable income.
For me, the income from crypto trading is always hard to predict. Crypto price is very volatile and the market trend is unpredictable. It is the factor to make it difficult to get a stable income in crypto trading.



Indeed, it is very difficult to  generate stable income from trading activities during the bear run unless you are an expert trader and you have experience of working in future market where you can take both (long and short positions but we can generate some income by staking our coins on reliable DEFI projects. I also do staking as well provide liquidity but my preference is always Ethereum based projects which in my opinion is most secure and reliable network.









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December 16, 2022, 03:59:58 PM
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You should only focus on few HOURS how to cash out money from Market that's it.
the price of bitcoin cannot be predicted when it will move, so when you make some open position - cashing out in a few hours is quite impossible.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.
how come you don't keep an eye on the news? news is the most important thing for a trader in analyzing bitcoin price movements, you sound like you are doing gambling rather than trading lol.

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.
i am not a futures trader but in the crypto market, bitcoin price movement is the fastest.  and alluding to getting a stable income every day, are you aware of what you say, how can you do that when the crypto market is a very volatile market.

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December 16, 2022, 04:27:33 PM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

If you want to make huge amount of money, then you gonna have to take high risks. I mean if the expected return is high, then only you will make more money right? Nevertheless if you are capable enough to bear losses, then only try this path, else when the coins will turn into pebbles, no one can gurantee that.
Also Bitcoins are for slow investment to be honest. But atleast here the profits are guranteed. Let’s hope for the best and see how far we can go.
True I agree with you and the irony is that sometimes some people think that by investing in Bitcoin it will provide quick profits,
surely thinking like that is wrong especially with the current conditions I think we need patience when investing in Bitcoin,
besides that investing in Bitcoin is much safer

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December 16, 2022, 04:41:13 PM
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That is why am using my monthly salary to buy potential coins that will add value to my income in future because I want to be part of those that will smile when the price rise higher.

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Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
I don't think, Bitcoin move slowly in the market because Bitcoin price make others cryptocurrencies price to move also and whenever Bitcoin price is dumping in the market other cryptocurrencies price will be dumping that made many people to prefer Bitcoin in a long team trading. I have achieved a lot of income from Bitcoin as a future trader and it has really help me to increase in profits making in the society.

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Indeed, it is very difficult to  generate stable income from trading activities during the bear run unless you are an expert trader and you have experience of working in future market where you can take both (long and short positions but we can generate some income by staking our coins on reliable DEFI projects. I also do staking as well provide liquidity but my preference is always Ethereum based projects which in my opinion is most secure and reliable network.
This is a very simple lesson and yet many people simply refuse to learn it, the bear market is hard for everyone, only those which are incredibly skilled can obtain profits with it and constant profits is even harder than that, so I will suggest to everyone to lower their expectations during a bear market, if you can come out of the bear market with just a few losses which do not affect your capital too much you should be happy about it, as the rest of investors are probably in way worse shape than you.

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If you want to make huge amount of money, then you gonna have to take high risks. I mean if the expected return is high, then only you will make more money right? Nevertheless if you are capable enough to bear losses, then only try this path, else when the coins will turn into pebbles, no one can gurantee that.
Also Bitcoins are for slow investment to be honest. But atleast here the profits are guranteed. Let’s hope for the best and see how far we can go.
Without a lot of capital, big profits are just an illusion. The average person thinks altcoin can make them rich for as little as $100 - $500 investing, but even if they do, they tend to lose a lot more than investing in bitcoin. So far bitcoin has lost 75% in value since last year, but when this bear market is over and the bullish start then a lot of positive things can be expected.

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Keep your focus on how to make money.
That is why am using my monthly salary to buy potential coins that will add value to my income in future because I want to be part of those that will smile when the price rise higher.
Just keep on doing that but be sure that you've chosen a good crypto that you're buying and not just random stuff in the market. I don't want to give that discouragement but that's a vital thing when you're choosing the coins to invest.
Because you'll never know if it will blow or it will blow you with your money leaving you behind. We're all going to be good in the future and that's why we're investing and not losing hope in the market that we're part of.

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This is a very simple lesson and yet many people simply refuse to learn it, the bear market is hard for everyone, only those which are incredibly skilled can obtain profits with it and constant profits is even harder than that, so I will suggest to everyone to lower their expectations during a bear market, if you can come out of the bear market with just a few losses which do not affect your capital too much you should be happy about it, as the rest of investors are probably in way worse shape than you.

The most common mistake in a bear market is that investors start buying coins too early, hoping that the price has reached a minimum. But after a slight correction, the price continues to decline, but there is no money for another purchase.

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This is a very simple lesson and yet many people simply refuse to learn it, the bear market is hard for everyone, only those which are incredibly skilled can obtain profits with it and constant profits is even harder than that, so I will suggest to everyone to lower their expectations during a bear market, if you can come out of the bear market with just a few losses which do not affect your capital too much you should be happy about it, as the rest of investors are probably in way worse shape than you.

The most common mistake in a bear market is that investors start buying coins too early, hoping that the price has reached a minimum. But after a slight correction, the price continues to decline, but there is no money for another purchase.

This is also my mistake before buying to early and getting panic to sell it at a loss as it keeps declining. Knowledge is the key, before you buy a coin you should analyze it first and see where to buy also don't go all in, buy at multiple prices that you analyzed. But again we will keep committing mistakes but make sure that you will learn from them and you know the reason why it was a mistake so that you cant do it again the next time you buy
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The most common mistake in a bear market is that investors start buying coins too early, hoping that the price has reached a minimum. But after a slight correction, the price continues to decline, but there is no money for another purchase.
The bear market is not a favorable season because coins and projects dumps while some failed to make it out of the bear market. Mistakes are made everyday in the market, we could just hope for the best in the possible future rather than complaining about our past mistakes, the same thing applies to gains and losses. These are the main facts concerning the market, no matter how one gather experience or is an high profile trader or investor, he or she will stilll suffer losses either at a bigger or lower rate.

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December 17, 2022, 11:45:14 AM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Best is If you Open position everyday long or short keep the position Open few HOURS and cash Out the profit then forget about Market and btc go do your normal life things.
Biggest mistake traders do are this they Open positions like eth btc then those coins tend to move slow and while they waiting they might change their mind and making mistakes.
You should only focus on few HOURS how to cash out money from Market that's it.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.

I been making mistakes like i Open btc short when i know Market is up but still btc did not moved like few days so it means i did not make any money few days i was waiting like a fool instead of that If i was gona long and short other coins i would Made money everyday.

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.

But btc are great Market indicator so i use btc price as Market indicator to know when to long or short.

If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.
You're contradicting yourself mate. You said you don't care about btc price and you end up saying you use btc price as market indicator. Every expert trader must not do away with btc market analysis for a fruitful trading. Why don't you read news? It is very important to make yourself conversant with the happenings around the world. You have nothing to lose but rather gain useful knowledge.
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Control your emotion, believe me, emotion is your biggest number one enemy. Especially the fear and greed know how to stop loss and know how to take profit.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

Please don't stay away from BTC since if you can predict BTC moves you can predict the most market is going. In fact, most of traders that I have followed what they do first is predict BTC moving after that they start to analyze the altcoin. Bitcoin waves is real.

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Good advice. It is not easy to predict Bitcoin price correctly over period of time but somebody is doing is successfully then he must be highly skilled in Technical analysis & should be making good profit. In my opinion key to success in trading is good technical and risk management skills.

There is again FUD in the market about Binance  which is shaking the market and Bitcoin is trading below 16,700 and BNB is trading below $220 now which is a major fall and general investors are worried about the future of Binance. Hopefully, the episode of FTX will not repeated with Binance.









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That's why I don't think we can stop learning even though in some moments when trading we get profit,
it is very important to keep learning because trading is not easy,
Losing in real trading is also normal and we will not always be profitable

That's wrong  conception, because the objective of anyone who's into trading is to ensure that they have achieved their objectives in trading, so average trader what they have in mind is to make profit, so don't encourage anyone to venture into lose because of it wants to learn better in trading, lose will come when their is mistake from you, and you will stand to correct such error not to repeat itself, so the essence of understanding more in trading it's when you make a mistake and get lost, the lost will make you to correct your error.

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That's why I don't think we can stop learning even though in some moments when trading we get profit,
it is very important to keep learning because trading is not easy,
Losing in real trading is also normal and we will not always be profitable

That's wrong  conception, because the objective of anyone who's into trading is to ensure that they have achieved their objectives in trading, so average trader what they have in mind is to make profit, so don't encourage anyone to venture into lose because of it wants to learn better in trading, lose will come when their is mistake from you, and you will stand to correct such error not to repeat itself, so the essence of understanding more in trading it's when you make a mistake and get lost, the lost will make you to correct your error.
Mistakes and errors are learning curves and stepping stones for you to make yourself better and make yourself able to learn up which would really make you avoid on future similar scenarios that you might experience.
Majority of people do really comes into that main goal which is to make profits here on crypto space or whatever market you are involved with. If you do really longing for that target or goal
then it would be wise that you should really know on how to do things and adapt accordingly.Make yourself that versatile and make yourself that sensible towards on your past actions
and trying out to sustain yourself on future things that you do tend to do.

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Mistakes and errors are learning curves and stepping stones for you to make yourself better and make yourself able to learn up which would really make you avoid on future similar scenarios that you might experience.
Majority of people do really comes into that main goal which is to make profits here on crypto space or whatever market you are involved with. If you do really longing for that target or goal
Making profit as i said is primarily objectives of any investor, using this illustration or scenario, a gambler intensions or mindset of participating into gambling is to be able to win gambling, but a process whereby it loses, it will put heads on ground to know where the mistake come from, so referring to traders, their major objectives or plans is to make money, and that factor alone will encourage to learn more any factor that will make you not to venture into profit, and secondly we do learn from our mistakes which is the primary or basic things we as traders have to know.

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   -  So what you want to convey is that crypto traders do this position trading that you are saying OP right? And then come back depending on the time that an individual trader chooses whether it is 1 hour, 2 hours, or more.

Although we are all here in crypto trading, we all want to make a profit every day, but it's not as easy as you say when you do it in actual trading dude. It looks easy but the truth is that it is difficult to apply that in real life.

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   -  So what you want to convey is that crypto traders do this position trading that you are saying OP right? And then come back depending on the time that an individual trader chooses whether it is 1 hour, 2 hours, or more.

Although we are all here in crypto trading, we all want to make a profit every day, but it's not as easy as you say when you do it in actual trading dude. It looks easy but the truth is that it is difficult to apply that in real life.

In tutorials and articles, you can easily spot when to trade, and also, it can be quickly analyzed, but when you start to trade in the real moving market, you will see a lot of noise, and you will be confused about where to start. As always, when we practice, it can be easy, but jumping into the real market, it is difficult; that is why some of them will be creating demo accounts to practice. Earning profit daily is difficult, and it is not guaranteed you will win every day as there are days that you will lose a lot.
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When you feel at ease with a strategy cause it's working quite fine with your trading but that doesn't mean it might go fine with another just in the way you have expressed it. The hours in and out trading strategy OP is talking about can be likened to scrapping in trading. A situation where a trader cut out profits little by little no matter the amount it is, and then accumulate them but that doesn't mean losses won't be incurred too.
All u can say is that, as long as it is BTC any form of pattern that works fine for you , just keep to be wether be it hodl for long or short or scrapping the motive is on profit making.

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When it comes to futures, we want our money to grow with the lowest possible risk and the biggest potential returns and rates of return. Although there are wise ways to approach it, there are no quick fixes to become wealthy.


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December 21, 2022, 09:48:49 PM
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When it comes to futures, we want our money to grow with the lowest possible risk and the biggest potential returns and rates of return. Although there are wise ways to approach it, there are no quick fixes to become wealthy.


If you do pertain about holding a specific coin for longer years or duration then it wont really be having that lesser risk on some point, there's no way we could able to determine whether it would really be that something
worth on doing so.This is do entirely depending on which coin or project you are been holding on. If you are really going or after for the money then it would really be needing for you to accept all the potential risk
way ahead or something that you would encounter along the way.Never make yourself that greedy and never make yourself that too impulsive when it comes to decisions and other things.
Deal up the risk and face it out and make out some back up plans if one plan do mess out.

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Oh dude, it is harder than it looks or it seems to be. The market does not go the same way from what you see in the tutorial. That was exactly my experience when I was learning to day trade and I mainly use Youtube to learn some skills since I need an actual execution of the said teachings.
Although not really crypto-related, but I still manage to learn DSA in programming without any tutorial though it would be efficient for me to still learn through tutorials.
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When it comes to futures, we want our money to grow with the lowest possible risk and the biggest potential returns and rates of return. Although there are wise ways to approach it, there are no quick fixes to become wealthy.

Even some people didn't care about the risk as long as there is a way to make a big return, the right thing is that we make the risk to become minimum by doing analysis, practicing, and learning. It's true that we can't become wealthy in an instant so we should guide our friends so they won't be trapped by the influencer out there.


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When it comes to futures, we want our money to grow with the lowest possible risk and the biggest potential returns and rates of return. Although there are wise ways to approach it, there are no quick fixes to become wealthy.

Those that approach the way wrongly in the past, find it difficult to get a good results because they didn't apply personal research on their struggle before taking the risk in the community. I think, this is the best time to embrace the risk to get wealthy because those that embraced this risk some years ago in their investment got something good in return that made them to prefer this season we are which is the best way to become a great investors in the future. Many investors will not miss this season to approach the market because the market price can change at anytime.

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December 22, 2022, 07:04:31 AM
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
What do you mean, mate?
I don't think predicting market trends is a problem. It is the way to know your opportunity to buy or sell. Predicting is a necessary part of trading or investment. If you can't predict the market trends, you don't know when the best time to collect crypto assets and take the profits.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Almost all crypto coins move slowly in the current market condition, not only BTC.
If you are not familiar with future trading, sure you need to stay away. But if you know well it, why do you need to stay away?

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
If you are trading crypto coins, you can't expect stable income.
For me, the income from crypto trading is always hard to predict. Crypto price is very volatile and the market trend is unpredictable. It is the factor to make it difficult to get a stable income in crypto trading.


Though it is not easy to generate income from trading crypto currencies, because it is highly volatile,  but if you develop good trading strategy, manage risk, learn technical skills and stay up to date with new trends in the market then you can make well informed decision to enter and exit in the market at right time and make regular income.









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Though it is not easy to generate income from trading crypto currencies, because it is highly volatile,  but if you develop good trading strategy, manage risk, learn technical skills and stay up to date with new trends in the market then you can make well informed decision to enter and exit in the market at right time and make regular income.

Trading isn't as hard or easy as people think, the issue is that people don't learn before they try to earn, they just wake up and want to earn as the professionals that have spent years training are earning and that's where they get it all wrong. A trader that spends time traininyhim or her self will find success easily but that which just gamble what the the market will be met with losses beyond expectations.

My advice to any trader looking to make money from the industry is to be dedicated to this skills and put more resources into learning and when him shift attention to earning, he'll find it more easier than his peers.

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I think that BTC is one of the most acceptable and most successful coin in which people make investment and use it for trading. But future trading is not successful option, holding is advantageous so keeping BTC for few months or year may give you double income. May be people decrease their income due to their mistakes,  impatience and less information about BTC. But actually BTC can become a cause of your success as for lengthy period if you keep it you will be undoubtedly enhance the worth but wait is necessary because everything is achieved with wait and efforts.

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I been making mistakes like i Open btc short when i know Market is up but still btc did not moved like few days so it means i did not make any money few days i was waiting like a fool instead of that If i was gona long and short other coins i would Made money everyday.

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.


I'm not sure about this thread, but when you say you opened a BTC short position and the market isn't up, that's a little suspicious, and the way you explained it, you don't know the current trend because you're only looking at "everyday time."Also, if you have a steady income, could you show us proof?

I'm not sure if you're imagining things, but I'd say yes, BTC has a slow movement, but it's good to trade because I don't like really fast-paced markets because I can't analyze fast and also because I don't have a lot of screen time on my PC, so trading and holding BTC is good for me. 
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Keep your focus on how to make money.
Dont try to predict Market too much.
Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.
Best is If you Open position everyday long or short keep the position Open few HOURS and cash Out the profit then forget about Market and btc go do your normal life things.
Biggest mistake traders do are this they Open positions like eth btc then those coins tend to move slow and while they waiting they might change their mind and making mistakes.
You should only focus on few HOURS how to cash out money from Market that's it.

I don't read any news i dont care much about btc and price but everyday i make money becouse i Open position for few HOURS and then whatever money i make i cash out this money.

I been making mistakes like i Open btc short when i know Market is up but still btc did not moved like few days so it means i did not make any money few days i was waiting like a fool instead of that If i was gona long and short other coins i would Made money everyday.

Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.

But btc are great Market indicator so i use btc price as Market indicator to know when to long or short.

If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.


Everyone has their own position, vision and trading opportunities. It is difficult to say which strategy is good, because everyone determines it well. It is very good that you shared your vision and strategy in cryptocurrency trading, I am sure that many, like me, will be able to try it out. But still, cryptocurrency trading is largely an unpredictable process, and for successful trading, you need to have a lot of important information and, of course, experience.


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January 05, 2023, 08:05:25 PM
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I like to keep my money for future use. As a saving or as an investment plan. I am not into altcoins anymore as they are centralized shitcoin. Price movements could be predicted through BTC's movements, but I doubt if their full intention was to pump and dump.
Altcoin's price is not determined by trading volume, but who is controlling and willing to put what amount of money in there. And you have always the chance of getting scammed by whales.
BTC it is for me, no matter who says what.
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January 05, 2023, 08:40:35 PM
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Trading future is quite risky for newbies. It is not by opening hourly spots. Very much disastrous things can happen within minutes in futures.
Btc is slow sure in futures but you can't do without btc because he is the chief indicator.
My advice is that anyone going future should ensure they know what they are doing because it's a risky trading option.

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Everyone has their own position, vision and trading opportunities. It is difficult to say which strategy is good, because everyone determines it well. It is very good that you shared your vision and strategy in cryptocurrency trading, I am sure that many, like me, will be able to try it out. But still, cryptocurrency trading is largely an unpredictable process, and for successful trading, you need to have a lot of important information and, of course, experience.
It's true, apart from experience, traders also need good funds and strategies.
In the process traders also need time before they make profit. Sometimes day trades don't really pay off and here they need some adjustments to their strategy where it is more likely for them to try longer timeframes. But I think as long as the market is still in a bearish condition, it is very good to use it for long term investment where accumulation and DCA is a good strategy.

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I like to keep my money for future use. As a saving or as an investment plan. I am not into altcoins anymore as they are centralized shitcoin. Price movements could be predicted through BTC's movements, but I doubt if their full intention was to pump and dump.
Altcoin's price is not determined by trading volume, but who is controlling and willing to put what amount of money in there. And you have always the chance of getting scammed by whales.
BTC it is for me, no matter who says what.
Altcoins are shits, I've got some but that some from over the years and that some have thought thought some bitter lessons that, I tend to hook up with only bitcoin that I've known best. You still can't accurately predict its price action but, you get to understand the benefits that might come from hodling.

Speaking of if there plans are to pump and dump? The backbones to any project remains in the team. If a project is to succeed, it is the team and if it is to fail, it as well remains with the team. There schemes determines if investors are going to sell most or all of there hodlings off with one bearish move or hodl till it greens again. Perhaps not there plan but, they just might not have done enough to keep it alive either.

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January 05, 2023, 10:58:54 PM
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Control your emotion, believe me, emotion is your biggest number one enemy. Especially the fear and greed know how to stop loss and know how to take profit.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

Please don't stay away from BTC since if you can predict BTC moves you can predict the most market is going. In fact, most of traders that I have followed what they do first is predict BTC moving after that they start to analyze the altcoin. Bitcoin waves is real.

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If you can’t be good in trading btc, might as well that you will also find it hard to be profitable from trading altcoins. So stick to bitcoin regardless of how the market performs. And as a trader, never go all for money because you will definitely fall from that mindset. Just take advantage in every possible chances, and do stoploss whenever it’s badly needed.
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January 05, 2023, 11:14:18 PM
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Control your emotion, believe me, emotion is your biggest number one enemy. Especially the fear and greed know how to stop loss and know how to take profit.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

Please don't stay away from BTC since if you can predict BTC moves you can predict the most market is going. In fact, most of traders that I have followed what they do first is predict BTC moving after that they start to analyze the altcoin. Bitcoin waves is real.

Good Luck Smiley

If you can’t be good in trading btc, might as well that you will also find it hard to be profitable from trading altcoins. So stick to bitcoin regardless of how the market performs. And as a trader, never go all for money because you will definitely fall from that mindset. Just take advantage in every possible chances, and do stoploss whenever it’s badly needed.
Or simply having that risk management which is always been the suggested thing to be having as an investor or trader specially on this unpredictable market.Its true that you
should really make yourself chase up for profits or making money because it would really be just making you desperate which is something not that recommendable when it comes to
this matter. Just mind off about dealing with unpredictable market, always set stop loss and dont have that gambler like mind or behavior because trading is a
different thing which it should be differently treated as well.
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January 05, 2023, 11:34:45 PM
 #119

Control your emotion, believe me, emotion is your biggest number one enemy. Especially the fear and greed know how to stop loss and know how to take profit.

Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

Please don't stay away from BTC since if you can predict BTC moves you can predict the most market is going. In fact, most of traders that I have followed what they do first is predict BTC moving after that they start to analyze the altcoin. Bitcoin waves is real.

Good Luck Smiley

If you can’t be good in trading btc, might as well that you will also find it hard to be profitable from trading altcoins. So stick to bitcoin regardless of how the market performs. And as a trader, never go all for money because you will definitely fall from that mindset. Just take advantage in every possible chances, and do stoploss whenever it’s badly needed.
Or simply having that risk management which is always been the suggested thing to be having as an investor or trader specially on this unpredictable market.Its true that you
should really make yourself chase up for profits or making money because it would really be just making you desperate which is something not that recommendable when it comes to
this matter. Just mind off about dealing with unpredictable market, always set stop loss and dont have that gambler like mind or behavior because trading is a
different thing which it should be differently treated as well.

If you can't handle the risk, better not to deal with a gambler type of trader. It will backfire on you if you rush your investment. I agree that having stop-loss will help you if you are in a daily or in a short-term trading practices, it will avoid you to suffer from deep downfall, though there's also a disadvantage which you needed to consider, the volatility can harm your strategy as short dump can have a quick pump back which already triggered your position.

Things that you needed to assess and consider before you put your step inside the market, make sure that you are willing and ready to work on this side of this business.

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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.

While you can definitely make life-changing money in crypto if you know what you're doing — the words "crypto", "trading", and "stable" doesn't really go well together. Even the best traders have bad trading days.
Well, we are here for one certain reason and that is to gain money. But since trading is also uncertain, then expect that it won’t always be profitable. And one big mistake in trading will eventually make you lose everything. So always be cautious when trading, even in investing, as they can make you instant wealthy, and they can also end up making you the poorest of them all.

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January 06, 2023, 07:33:35 AM
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Many newcomers were given false information about how crypto could alter their lives, which led them to assume that they could make quick cash by just trading their money in the market or believing in a signal from someone claiming they could become wealthy by trading at them. They must understand that they are dealing with unforeseen circumstances, therefore we must maintain our attention and gather all the necessary data to be better prepared to trade coins on the market. Since you pointed out, even advanced traders lose all of their money due to poor selections they make, they shouldn't feel at ease studying the fundamentals.
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I like to keep my money for future use. As a saving or as an investment plan. I am not into altcoins anymore as they are centralized shitcoin. Price movements could be predicted through BTC's movements, but I doubt if their full intention was to pump and dump.
Altcoin's price is not determined by trading volume, but who is controlling and willing to put what amount of money in there. And you have always the chance of getting scammed by whales.
BTC it is for me, no matter who says what.
Altcoins are shits, I've got some but that some from over the years and that some have thought thought some bitter lessons that, I tend to hook up with only bitcoin that I've known best. You still can't accurately predict its price action but, you get to understand the benefits that might come from hodling.

Speaking of if there plans are to pump and dump? The backbones to any project remains in the team. If a project is to succeed, it is the team and if it is to fail, it as well remains with the team. There schemes determines if investors are going to sell most or all of there hodlings off with one bearish move or hodl till it greens again. Perhaps not there plan but, they just might not have done enough to keep it alive either.
This is the fact that many doesn't yet understand. People are still trading buying alts and also making good profits, but to what limit? There's also the thing remains surrounding new projects. Investors are getting all the benefits selling at high and dumping the price and only then they unlock buyer's sell option. And you can't even sell at your buying price. This is just one of many ways that alt coin market works. This will become a full page post if i keep talking about that. So I will just stop here.
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January 06, 2023, 08:42:49 PM
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Well, we are here for one certain reason and that is to gain money. But since trading is also uncertain, then expect that it won’t always be profitable. And one big mistake in trading will eventually make you lose everything. So always be cautious when trading, even in investing, as they can make you instant wealthy, and they can also end up making you the poorest of them all.
Sure, making money is always the main reason to trade crypto coins. There is nothing wrong if a trader wants to make money from trading. But since no guarantee to always get profits, we must use safe money in trading. Most people agree that we must use the money that we can afford to lose. It is the best way to avoid huge losses. However, you won't lose everything as long as you trade in the spot market. You only end up with a big decrease of your funds if you trade carelessly. But if you trade in the future market, it is simply the way to lose everything.



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January 06, 2023, 09:27:40 PM
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It is certainly true that the primary goal of trading crypto coins is to make money. There is nothing wrong with this, as long as traders are aware of the risks involved and take steps to manage those risks effectively. Using safe money, or money that can be afforded to lose, is a good way to minimize potential losses. Trading in the spot market, rather than the futures market, can also help to reduce the risk of losing everything, as traders in the spot market have the ability to sell their assets at any time. However, it is important for traders to be aware that even in the spot market, there is always the potential for significant losses, and it is essential to approach trading with caution and to educate oneself about the various risks involved.
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Do not confuse things, it is not a lie, in trade you can earn money, but you have to know how to do it, many enter with the hope of becoming millionaires and no, sometimes things can be reversed, if we can put it in context The ways that they have to win in fast trading are few, it is said that 95% of traders always fail, so for a person to be profitable it is quite rare, only 5% of traders win, because sometimes they are much less who wins, so whoever wants to enter the world of trading has to know that they have to be very patient, otherwise they will most likely lose money, that is something one must have as a premise.

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I like to keep my money for future use. As a saving or as an investment plan. I am not into altcoins anymore as they are centralized shitcoin. Price movements could be predicted through BTC's movements, but I doubt if their full intention was to pump and dump.
Altcoin's price is not determined by trading volume, but who is controlling and willing to put what amount of money in there. And you have always the chance of getting scammed by whales.
BTC it is for me, no matter who says what.
Altcoins are shits, I've got some but that some from over the years and that some have thought thought some bitter lessons that, I tend to hook up with only bitcoin that I've known best. You still can't accurately predict its price action but, you get to understand the benefits that might come from hodling.

Speaking of if there plans are to pump and dump? The backbones to any project remains in the team. If a project is to succeed, it is the team and if it is to fail, it as well remains with the team. There schemes determines if investors are going to sell most or all of there hodlings off with one bearish move or hodl till it greens again. Perhaps not there plan but, they just might not have done enough to keep it alive either.
This is the fact that many doesn't yet understand. People are still trading buying alts and also making good profits, but to what limit? There's also the thing remains surrounding new projects. Investors are getting all the benefits selling at high and dumping the price and only then they unlock buyer's sell option. And you can't even sell at your buying price. This is just one of many ways that alt coin market works. This will become a full page post if i keep talking about that. So I will just stop here.

It was their strategy to lock in the sell option in order to prevent dumps, but it can also result in massive losses for investors. It was really different before  that is the main reason I don't now invest in alts, mostly on those new projects, as I am always thinking they will die after a couple of months, and it is very risky. I still trade alts, but only the top coins because they are far safer than the new ones because profit is easy because the price is low and you can buy in bulk.
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January 14, 2023, 06:36:33 AM
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It is certainly true that the primary goal of trading crypto coins is to make money. There is nothing wrong with this, as long as traders are aware of the risks involved and take steps to manage those risks effectively. Using safe money, or money that can be afforded to lose, is a good way to minimize potential losses. Trading in the spot market, rather than the futures market, can also help to reduce the risk of losing everything, as traders in the spot market have the ability to sell their assets at any time. However, it is important for traders to be aware that even in the spot market, there is always the potential for significant losses, and it is essential to approach trading with caution and to educate oneself about the various risks involved.
Spot and futures trading is just as risky. although futures trading of course has a higher risk. unfortunately, now a lot of newbies are coming to markets like Binance to trade futures, which of course beginners won't have.
their goal remains the same to make money. but without knowledge and skills, it's like gambling and wasting their money. they come only to lose.



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January 14, 2023, 11:47:25 AM
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It is certainly true that the primary goal of trading crypto coins is to make money. There is nothing wrong with this, as long as traders are aware of the risks involved and take steps to manage those risks effectively. Using safe money, or money that can be afforded to lose, is a good way to minimize potential losses. Trading in the spot market, rather than the futures market, can also help to reduce the risk of losing everything, as traders in the spot market have the ability to sell their assets at any time. However, it is important for traders to be aware that even in the spot market, there is always the potential for significant losses, and it is essential to approach trading with caution and to educate oneself about the various risks involved.
Spot and futures trading is just as risky. although futures trading of course has a higher risk. unfortunately, now a lot of newbies are coming to markets like Binance to trade futures, which of course beginners won't have.
their goal remains the same to make money. but without knowledge and skills, it's like gambling and wasting their money. they come only to lose.
It is a need for them to assess their capabilities because trading will simply don't work having only the basic knowledge and skill of trading but also requires a deep understanding of the market and most of all, the capability to control their emotions. I don't want to stop traders from doing what they want to do whether it was futures trading or spot trading as long as they recognized their weaknesses and correct their mistakes. Because I believe that people will change their approach and choose the place where they know they can do it well.

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January 14, 2023, 02:06:39 PM
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only 5% of traders win, because sometimes they are much less who wins, so whoever wants to enter the world of trading has to know that they have to be very patient, otherwise they will most likely lose money


In trading it is true that patient matters but that is when you have not pulled the wrong trigger. If you send the wrong other then the patients will be about how much that you have in your account especially if your order is against the wave or trend. Patients for me is usually before jumping into an order but not for accumulation of loses, to loses I rather exit than to patiently wait for my account to burn out.
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January 14, 2023, 03:05:58 PM
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If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.
seems a quick profits strategy.  Grin Tbh honest with you mate based on my experience with such way. For me i don't if it will works to anybody as it's required alot of work to do and you must have so much effort to that of course. For example analysing the graph everytime and accumulating data to get the right direction of the trend.. IMV 99% of traders cannot afford such task and always ended losses afterwards because its not that so easy like what you think mate.
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January 14, 2023, 08:07:13 PM
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It was their strategy to lock in the sell option in order to prevent dumps, but it can also result in massive losses for investors. It was really different before  that is the main reason I don't now invest in alts, mostly on those new projects, as I am always thinking they will die after a couple of months, and it is very risky. I still trade alts, but only the top coins because they are far safer than the new ones because profit is easy because the price is low and you can buy in bulk.

Alts projects were good back in the day, because they were trying to build a new thing which will help the people, and their use cases were good. And nowadays, all I see is scammers are creating new projects in order to scam people or just people who are creating something similar to what already exists. And also they claim that they are better than those existing ones. In the end, lack of creativity, copying and all those other stuffs leads t o their downfall.
All that which have survived in the past are still leading the alt market. But I still doubt them as they are totally centralized.
But it's up to people if or if not they want to use their money to invest in alts. I'm sure they will avoid the altcoins once they realize how much risk they carry.
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January 14, 2023, 10:24:53 PM
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It is certainly true that the primary goal of trading crypto coins is to make money. There is nothing wrong with this, as long as traders are aware of the risks involved and take steps to manage those risks effectively. Using safe money, or money that can be afforded to lose, is a good way to minimize potential losses. Trading in the spot market, rather than the futures market, can also help to reduce the risk of losing everything, as traders in the spot market have the ability to sell their assets at any time. However, it is important for traders to be aware that even in the spot market, there is always the potential for significant losses, and it is essential to approach trading with caution and to educate oneself about the various risks involved.
Spot and futures trading is just as risky. although futures trading of course has a higher risk. unfortunately, now a lot of newbies are coming to markets like Binance to trade futures, which of course beginners won't have.
their goal remains the same to make money. but without knowledge and skills, it's like gambling and wasting their money. they come only to lose.
That's them beginners in making decisions don't try to think and do research first,
they just want to make a quick profit and that mindset is wrong,
better learn first to improve knowledge and skills is much more important.

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January 15, 2023, 01:45:33 AM
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It was their strategy to lock in the sell option in order to prevent dumps, but it can also result in massive losses for investors. It was really different before  that is the main reason I don't now invest in alts, mostly on those new projects, as I am always thinking they will die after a couple of months, and it is very risky. I still trade alts, but only the top coins because they are far safer than the new ones because profit is easy because the price is low and you can buy in bulk.

Alts projects were good back in the day, because they were trying to build a new thing which will help the people, and their use cases were good. And nowadays, all I see is scammers are creating new projects in order to scam people or just people who are creating something similar to what already exists. And also they claim that they are better than those existing ones. In the end, lack of creativity, copying and all those other stuffs leads t o their downfall.
All that which have survived in the past are still leading the alt market. But I still doubt them as they are totally centralized.
But it's up to people if or if not they want to use their money to invest in alts. I'm sure they will avoid the altcoins once they realize how much risk they carry.

When those investors are already aware of or get scammed on those new projects, they tend not to invest anymore unless they see the most promising one, which is very rare right now. I was also investing in ICOs before, but when I saw there were a lot of shitcoins coming out, I quit. Furthermore, many new coins are now being copied by others, and some were simply created for fun or as a meme. I just recall that those coins before had very promising roadmaps and white papers, but right now some new coins with their white papers are garbage.
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January 15, 2023, 06:54:13 PM
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It was their strategy to lock in the sell option in order to prevent dumps, but it can also result in massive losses for investors. It was really different before  that is the main reason I don't now invest in alts, mostly on those new projects, as I am always thinking they will die after a couple of months, and it is very risky. I still trade alts, but only the top coins because they are far safer than the new ones because profit is easy because the price is low and you can buy in bulk.

Alts projects were good back in the day, because they were trying to build a new thing which will help the people, and their use cases were good. And nowadays, all I see is scammers are creating new projects in order to scam people or just people who are creating something similar to what already exists. And also they claim that they are better than those existing ones. In the end, lack of creativity, copying and all those other stuffs leads t o their downfall.
All that which have survived in the past are still leading the alt market. But I still doubt them as they are totally centralized.
But it's up to people if or if not they want to use their money to invest in alts. I'm sure they will avoid the altcoins once they realize how much risk they carry.

When those investors are already aware of or get scammed on those new projects, they tend not to invest anymore unless they see the most promising one, which is very rare right now. I was also investing in ICOs before, but when I saw there were a lot of shitcoins coming out, I quit. Furthermore, many new coins are now being copied by others, and some were simply created for fun or as a meme. I just recall that those coins before had very promising roadmaps and white papers, but right now some new coins with their white papers are garbage.
Even with good roadmaps and good vision, many fail to succeed due to many factors. Whale's attack, scammers, hacking and all of that. But most of them are just scams to take away your money.
For these promising roadmap, investors are quite easily fooled by this. Even if you are a pro investor, you can easily fall for this. This kind of sudden attacks are unpredictable. So it is very hard to decide where to invest. As is said before, even the old ones that have been here with us for ages could also be a bad choice considering the fact that they are centralized, unlike BTC which is not.
If anyone comes to me for advice to invest in something, I would really suggest them to choose BTC as their only priority.
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January 15, 2023, 09:21:51 PM
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When those investors are already aware of or get scammed on those new projects, they tend not to invest anymore unless they see the most promising one, which is very rare right now. I was also investing in ICOs before, but when I saw there were a lot of shitcoins coming out, I quit. Furthermore, many new coins are now being copied by others, and some were simply created for fun or as a meme. I just recall that those coins before had very promising roadmaps and white papers, but right now some new coins with their white papers are garbage.
For the majority yes but for a few number of people, they remain to be the same. No matter how much times they get fooled, they seem to can't learn but keeps on investing on riskier things again and again. Some times we just need to be scammed first before we learn but this process can possibly be skipped.

It shouldn't always be followed if we want to save much money. We can do it by learning a lot of things first. Make a research and ask questions that you don't understand. It's not that promising coins are now rare, it's just that the number of scams projects have only increase by a lot of folds but if we dig deeper, we can still be able to find them.
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Many newcomers were given false information about how crypto could alter their lives, which led them to assume that they could make quick cash by just trading their money in the market or believing in a signal from someone claiming they could become wealthy by trading at them. They must understand that they are dealing with unforeseen circumstances, therefore we must maintain our attention and gather all the necessary data to be better prepared to trade coins on the market. Since you pointed out, even advanced traders lose all of their money due to poor selections they make, they shouldn't feel at ease studying the fundamentals.
You are correct mate,after hearing how you can make quick quick cash if you trade,another important question to ask is that,since you started trading,can you boast of always making profit just as the way they exergerated it while telling you?You will always get the answer as No, because trading is a risky game,and success is never guaranteed,that's why you must have some necessary skills in order to trade and make profit.
Trading is fast and can earn one quick cash,but when when you loose,you should also be matured to to know that it is part of the game.
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January 16, 2023, 04:40:12 AM
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If you use btc futures without having sufficient analytical skills, you will not get profits but will experience losses, making your capital run out. Apart from that, you also have to control your emotions in trading because this has made many people lose opportunities to make profits. But as traders, we have our own way of analyzing the market to find a time when we can trade.
You are right, but you have to know that trading in this aspect have different perspective to follow, and i believe that before someone can as well make a profit in trading you can as well known the basic things concerning trading before you can take a good step of opportunity in trading, despite that some us scale through in trading with luck, but that doesn't mean that their opportunity comes everytime. To be prosper in trading at the basic knowledge have to be there.

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Frankly, if you want to make money, don't trade often. Just buy Bitcoin and wait until it goes up. It may take a long time and crashes can happen meanwhile, but don't panic, keep your focus on your primary goal that is to make money with Bitcoin on long term. If you do day trading or future trades, you are already under severe risk of loss, doesn't matter the method you are using on your execution, so prefer the safest route which decreases risks, while still keeping a decent profit margin.

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January 17, 2023, 05:27:36 PM
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Agreed, bitcoin investment is the best way to make money but effects aren't like that it isn't as easy as it's now, but tolerance and an logical approach will yield good returns. The crypto request has now come a raging wild west with unanticipated rudiments coming into the request. You'll read what cryptocurrencies are and the easiest way to make plutocrat with cryptocurrencies with lower threat than complex strategies. 
Being best is subjective but obviously, we're in a bitcoin forum so everyone here is going to say that it is the best and that includes you and me.
Those that are still doubting the potential of bitcoin are just missing the days that they should have rendered already by keeping bitcoin.
There's no need for them to be that technical so that they can have it. It's a matter of understanding on what bitcoin is and soon, the halving will come and more people will get to know what will be the effect of it.

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Frankly, if you want to make money, don't trade often. Just buy Bitcoin and wait until it goes up. It may take a long time and crashes can happen meanwhile, but don't panic, keep your focus on your primary goal that is to make money with Bitcoin on long term. If you do day trading or future trades, you are already under severe risk of loss, doesn't matter the method you are using on your execution, so prefer the safest route which decreases risks, while still keeping a decent profit margin.
But, trading often can give us a lot of income. Don't tell me you don't like it? We only need to know first that we are good at it, if not then it will be better to minimize our trading activity to avoid more losses. Hodling or investing is much easier than trading, so we can prioritize it if it seems that we don't have a talent in trading.

The only downside of it is that it might take time for us to earn since bull run doesn't come too often. Apart form having a solid patience, it's also important to have a self control and not to be emotional because there might be negative news that come along the way and we will see that our portfolios are badly affected.

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Frankly, if you want to make money, don't trade often. Just buy Bitcoin and wait until it goes up. It may take a long time and crashes can happen meanwhile, but don't panic, keep your focus on your primary goal that is to make money with Bitcoin on long term. If you do day trading or future trades, you are already under severe risk of loss, doesn't matter the method you are using on your execution, so prefer the safest route which decreases risks, while still keeping a decent profit margin.
Traders need to realize that you make money waiting and you do not make money trading. A professional trader might, in my opinion, use certain tactics to trade just once a month and still profit. And for this reason, I concur with your initial assertion that you shouldn't trade frequently if you want to be successful. It is just like the 80/20 rule or principle. So I can say that 80 percent of the money you make trading comes from 20 percent of the times when you do not trade.

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Frankly, if you want to make money, don't trade often. Just buy Bitcoin and wait until it goes up. It may take a long time and crashes can happen meanwhile, but don't panic, keep your focus on your primary goal that is to make money with Bitcoin on long term. If you do day trading or future trades, you are already under severe risk of loss, doesn't matter the method you are using on your execution, so prefer the safest route which decreases risks, while still keeping a decent profit margin.
But, trading often can give us a lot of income. Don't tell me you don't like it? We only need to know first that we are good at it, if not then it will be better to minimize our trading activity to avoid more losses. Hodling or investing is much easier than trading, so we can prioritize it if it seems that we don't have a talent in trading.

The only downside of it is that it might take time for us to earn since bull run doesn't come too often. Apart form having a solid patience, it's also important to have a self control and not to be emotional because there might be negative news that come along the way and we will see that our portfolios are badly affected.
It's true that trading is much more complicated, but still, whether it's trading or investing, it's important to learn first,
there is certainly a lot that we need to prepare, both knowledge, skills and self-control are equally important,
and most importantly never get bored to learn.

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January 18, 2023, 06:03:56 PM
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Frankly, if you want to make money, don't trade often. Just buy Bitcoin and wait until it goes up. It may take a long time and crashes can happen meanwhile, but don't panic, keep your focus on your primary goal that is to make money with Bitcoin on long term. If you do day trading or future trades, you are already under severe risk of loss, doesn't matter the method you are using on your execution, so prefer the safest route which decreases risks, while still keeping a decent profit margin.
But, trading often can give us a lot of income. Don't tell me you don't like it? We only need to know first that we are good at it, if not then it will be better to minimize our trading activity to avoid more losses. Hodling or investing is much easier than trading, so we can prioritize it if it seems that we don't have a talent in trading.

The only downside of it is that it might take time for us to earn since bull run doesn't come too often. Apart form having a solid patience, it's also important to have a self control and not to be emotional because there might be negative news that come along the way and we will see that our portfolios are badly affected.
It's true that trading is much more complicated, but still, whether it's trading or investing, it's important to learn first,
there is certainly a lot that we need to prepare, both knowledge, skills and self-control are equally important,
and most importantly never get bored to learn.
Also, dont make yourself that easily quit when you do experience up some losses because this is where people do usually falls on on which on the time that they do experience losses then they do turn their backs
and never came back which is really that a wrong mindset to have.You should really be that dedicated or persevere if ever you do really wanted to be successful on either investment or trading career.
You should really make yourself that expecting for losses along the way because this is a normal thing that you would really be experiencing because not everything would turn out to be positive.
Bare yourself with these things so that you would really easily get frustrated and discourage.

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January 18, 2023, 06:11:44 PM
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What is the point of those advices? Stay focus, concentrate, dont take rush decisions, follow your goal. This has been advices million times already.

OP, why dont you give examples? All you say is, "FOCUS", "TRADE OFTEN", "MAKE SHORT AND LONG POSITIONS". That is water. Like books about successful success. And the best from you "open position, wait few hours, take any profit and close it". Marvellous. Teach me how this works on bear market.

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Agreed, bitcoin investment is the best way to make money but effects aren't like that it isn't as easy as it's now, but tolerance and an logical approach will yield good returns. The crypto request has now come a raging wild west with unanticipated rudiments coming into the request. You'll read what cryptocurrencies are and the easiest way to make plutocrat with cryptocurrencies with lower threat than complex strategies. 
For we to make money in the cryptocurrency market we must know what we are doing to avoid unnecessary drama because the market does not care about our holdings and it will be too risk for us to be trading in the market and not understand the next decision to take.
Cryptocurrency market is a sureway to make money if we are ready to learn the techniques especially learn from the pro traders that had been in the market for a longer period of time.

Making profits in the market also take diligent research and the nature of how the market works to that in case we are not Lucky enough to make profits in a single day, our loses won't be much.

What is the point of those advices? Stay focus, concentrate, dont take rush decisions, follow your goal. This has been advices million times already.

OP, why dont you give examples? All you say is, "FOCUS", "TRADE OFTEN", "MAKE SHORT AND LONG POSITIONS". That is water. Like books about successful success. And the best from you "open position, wait few hours, take any profit and close it". Marvellous. Teach me how this works on bear market.
What kind of advise do you expect op to givr since he is not ready to give any strategy could make us ask a lot of questions.
This is just in a form of advise and I really appreciate his endeavours.









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January 21, 2023, 08:22:53 AM
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.

But btc are great Market indicator so i use btc price as Market indicator to know when to long or short.

If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.

I am not sure if futures trading is really the best way to achieve a stable income every day. When trading with futures we have a leveraged position that moves stronger than the actual underlying asset. Bitcoins for example is up 25% over the last month, so who ever holds some BTC futures should have made a lot of money in the last few month. Which is already a big move in my opinion. But it's true that alt coins tend to move much more quickly than bitcoins. So any investor who is looking for the highest returns will have to invest in altcoins instead of bitcoins. The problem with the extra high return is that they also come from the most risky projects. We can't expect stable and constant income when trading those coins and futures on those coins. The chance of facing a loss are much higher then when investing in the bitcoin market.
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January 21, 2023, 08:50:49 AM
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Frankly, if you want to make money, don't trade often. Just buy Bitcoin and wait until it goes up. It may take a long time and crashes can happen meanwhile, but don't panic, keep your focus on your primary goal that is to make money with Bitcoin on long term. If you do day trading or future trades, you are already under severe risk of loss, doesn't matter the method you are using on your execution, so prefer the safest route which decreases risks, while still keeping a decent profit margin.
Traders need to realize that you make money waiting and you do not make money trading. A professional trader might, in my opinion, use certain tactics to trade just once a month and still profit. And for this reason, I concur with your initial assertion that you shouldn't trade frequently if you want to be successful. It is just like the 80/20 rule or principle. So I can say that 80 percent of the money you make trading comes from 20 percent of the times when you do not trade.

That's also not entirely true, as a trader, their profits mainly come from trading, you can't make them hold it all to make a profit without trading. Trading can generate bigger profits than holding if you are a good trader. I still see many people day trading, and they still make consistent profits. It is not a matter of frequent trading or not, what is important in trading or holding is to have a plan, and we need to follow that plan seriously and how we manage ourselves.

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January 21, 2023, 09:40:45 AM
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Most important in crypto is stable income everyday.
Just becouse btc are so slow i dont trade btc with futures much but If i do then i also trade others i dont keep my hopes on btc much.

But btc are great Market indicator so i use btc price as Market indicator to know when to long or short.

If you follow this plan you can get better results from trading like i said dont focus on too much market trend but try to find coin short or long it in few HOURS take the money and close the trade.

I am not sure if futures trading is really the best way to achieve a stable income every day. When trading with futures we have a leveraged position that moves stronger than the actual underlying asset. Bitcoins for example is up 25% over the last month, so who ever holds some BTC futures should have made a lot of money in the last few month. Which is already a big move in my opinion. But it's true that alt coins tend to move much more quickly than bitcoins. So any investor who is looking for the highest returns will have to invest in altcoins instead of bitcoins. The problem with the extra high return is that they also come from the most risky projects. We can't expect stable and constant income when trading those coins and futures on those coins. The chance of facing a loss are much higher then when investing in the bitcoin market.


We can't deny the fact that in that kind of trade, the chance of losing is much greater than winning your position. It's been practiced by traders who have better knowledge of the business. It will going to depend on how you perceive and project your opportunity and how good you are in handling the possible losses that it may take.

If you push with this kind of practices and you are already immune with losses and you manage to have more good outcome for sure you will continue to enhance and keep this as good practices while working with the market.

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If you don't understand the correct market indicators, the value of losing here will be high trading futures and options has potential for profit, but also potential for danger. This type of trading is not suitable for all investors when the market opens, this strategy helps traders to get the maximum advantage of the tight action from large buy and sell orders. The concept of going short or long is not so simple first, you need to understand the relationship between price and volume these two factors should be compatible. Volume is quite essential for every type of breakout which ensures breakout before entry.

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Keep your focus on how to make money.
 

As a trader in crypto currency or forex market; your main focus should not be how to make money; instead your main focus should be how you can gradually grow your capital while understanding that you will not make profits every trade. Keeping your emotions in check means; you are able to know when to stay away from a market and when to get stucked in a market.

Please keep in mind that in crypto currency or forex; it is important to understand the trading psychology.


Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

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I think that the best option is to devote enough time to learning. From my own experience, I can say that this brings results, because I myself started working on a demo account of the Amarkets broker.
Lol,everyone needs money,but not to the essence of your growth,and besides, bitcointalk forum is not a forum for making money,it is a forum set to know more about Bitcoin,and other affairs going on in the society.Whats best to do while you are here is to read good comments made by people in the different topics  so that you can apply it when you want.
Bitcointalk forum has everything one can ever ask for,the only thing required of bitcointalkers is that they should continue to make research,learn,and take ideas from experienced people.
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 Everyone who enters the crypto space aims to make a profit here, what is needed is that we first know the correct procedure so that we can get the correct way to earn bitcoin or cryptocurrency.

   And we also know that crypto trading is the main way for us to gain from it. As long as we don't imitate others who send their emotions and have no self-discipline, we must stay calm if something bad happens in the market so that we can keep thinking correctly and learn to do our research on things that are not we are sure or we don't know.



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There are not rule for every one disallowed earn money here in Bitcointalk Forum, you don't know about other reputation and skill having before active in this forum. Indeed there are not spam post, making educative post and give more knowledge not problem for growing up his account level and earn money here.

Beside has decision how to get more knowledge about Bitcoin and want to update about altcoin for investing and trading, I don't think wrong when people come in to  Bitcointalk forum for earning money trough not any rule break and he made or promoting with scam project.

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January 26, 2023, 03:41:33 AM
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Stay away from btc If you are futures trader btc moving too slow.

I disagree with you OP, because whenever Bitcoin price is moving in the market other cryptocurrencies price will be moving also, showed that Bitcoin price is making other cryptocurrencies price to pump. If you want to become great in your investment, try everything possible within your power to include Bitcoin in your investment, because there is a big hope of winning something big at the end of your investment. I don't think, the price of Bitcoin is moving slowly because the price just moved from $20,000 to $23,234  that made many traders to believe that Bitcoin still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies.

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The future of Bitcoin is uncertain and highly debated among experts in the field. Some believe that the decentralized nature of Bitcoin and its growing acceptance as a form of payment will lead to it becoming a widely used global currency. However, others believe that the lack of regulation and potential for illegal activity will lead to it being banned by governments and eventually becoming obsolete.

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The future of Bitcoin is uncertain and highly debated among experts in the field. Some believe that the decentralized nature of Bitcoin and its growing acceptance as a form of payment will lead to it becoming a widely used global currency. However, others believe that the lack of regulation and potential for illegal activity will lead to it being banned by governments and eventually becoming obsolete.
Yes, we know for ourselves that the development of the times is also accompanied by technological developments and that will continue to happen,
so there will be a possibility that Bitcoin becomes a global currency,
but what is clear is better just follow the development.

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The future of Bitcoin is uncertain and highly debated among experts in the field. Some believe that the decentralized nature of Bitcoin and its growing acceptance as a form of payment will lead to it becoming a widely used global currency. However, others believe that the lack of regulation and potential for illegal activity will lead to it being banned by governments and eventually becoming obsolete.
Yes, we know for ourselves that the development of the times is also accompanied by technological developments and that will continue to happen,
so there will be a possibility that Bitcoin becomes a global currency,
but what is clear is better just follow the development.
I can see that there had been similar advise just like the one op had explain and we need to need that making money in the market is not as easy as we think. The possibility of Bitcoin becomi6a global currency is there but the problem is that we don't know when that time would come. We are still anticipating for now and we hope that sooner the world will collectively accept Bitcoin as one of the means of payment of services.

Making money in the market for now need lot of knowledge so that we can easily penetrate into the market so we can aswell hustle for what we really want which is for the money.









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The future of Bitcoin is uncertain and highly debated among experts in the field. Some believe that the decentralized nature of Bitcoin and its growing acceptance as a form of payment will lead to it becoming a widely used global currency. However, others believe that the lack of regulation and potential for illegal activity will lead to it being banned by governments and eventually becoming obsolete.
Yes, we know for ourselves that the development of the times is also accompanied by technological developments and that will continue to happen,
so there will be a possibility that Bitcoin becomes a global currency,
but what is clear is better just follow the development.
I can see that there had been similar advise just like the one op had explain and we need to need that making money in the market is not as easy as we think. The possibility of Bitcoin becomi6a global currency is there but the problem is that we don't know when that time would come. We are still anticipating for now and we hope that sooner the world will collectively accept Bitcoin as one of the means of payment of services.

Making money in the market for now need lot of knowledge so that we can easily penetrate into the market so we can aswell hustle for what we really want which is for the money.

Knowledge that can give the right timing to invest your money, there are things that are really hard to understand but if you have the right sets of knowledge and ideas you'll be able to manage how to make money from this industry. It's not an easy task but surely doable if you know where to start and where you get the right skills to create your own strategy. Making money is what all of us are aiming but the proper executions is always depends from how you will execute your strategy and what are the ratio between good investment and bad investment.

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Literally, there are process you go through before you actually get to the road to succes, Which includes proper planning, Focusing on your journey, having a good strategy and being patient with the process, having done these then one day you will be one of those people who will share their testimonies as regards to how Bitcoin has helped change their life.

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In this case, an inexperienced trader will lose his deposit very quickly. Futures trading is dangerous not only for beginners, but also for experienced traders who also lose their money. But an experienced trader has the advantage that he uses risk management, which limits losses.
Yes , but the experienced trader has an advantage than the beginner, but once you establish a trade plan, secure ur position, sticking to an exit plan with the stop-loss order, and giving it a substantial investment of time and energy and for beginners not using all the Money in there account to buy or sell many contract futures, learn from margin calls and be patient you are good to go. But substantial time and energy is needed .a beginner won't really know this things but I believe an experienced trader does know it and it will guide him or her .
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Literally, there are process you go through before you actually get to the road to succes, Which includes proper planning, Focusing on your journey, having a good strategy and being patient with the process, having done these then one day you will be one of those people who will share their testimonies as regards to how Bitcoin has helped change their life.
To be honest, from several people I know who started learning about investing or trading Bitcoin, it's very difficult to see people who have the patience to process. everything you say is true, but it's hard to teach beginners to be patient.
more of the newbies think about the instant profit they can get when they see news on social media regarding the crypto market experiencing pumps and so on.
before focusing on the goal, beginners should understand the risks first.



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I just think it is safest to just buy and hold because the bullish move is getting strengthened every day. Or better still be patient enough to wait for the next support zone to get activated then a buy position can be opened with a reasonable stop loss and take profit to limit loss and grab the profit if either activates

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before focusing on the goal, beginners should understand the risks first.
Yes, it's true that for beginners, apart from having to know what the risks are in investing in crypto, there must also be a good diversification portfolio and don't involve emotions when trading, such as fear and FOMO. In addition, there must also be a Plan B if something happens at any time and make sure the exchanger is trusted so that the safety of our assets is maintained.

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I just think it is safest to just buy and hold because the bullish move is getting strengthened every day. Or better still be patient enough to wait for the next support zone to get activated then a buy position can be opened with a reasonable stop loss and take profit to limit loss and grab the profit if either activates
I have seen that new investors lose money most of the time but if they invest after thinking well they will gain many times. I don't trust any coin other than bitcoin as I have invested in several coins.  I have lost a lot of money by doing this. But if I invest in Bitcoin, I never think that it will be a loss, it can always be a profit.

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First of all, I would advise you to take the time to study. This aspect plays a very important role in trading and should not be underestimated. When I started working with a broker from AMarkets, I initially used a demo account for work in order to gain experience.
Some person's study,and it doesn't look like they do because they don't implement what they study.Making money is everyone targets in crypto but wise decisions only brings profits other than making desperate decisions which one will regret later. Crypto is not a get rich quick scheme, it's profits is stage by stage depending on your account size, the same way your losses comes in different measures. Before mapping out the plans to reach in crypto, several steps are taken before it can be achievable, other than guessing and following trends in the market. Always trade carefully because the market is highly risky and not everyone can withstand the pressure when they're running at a loss.
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January 31, 2023, 06:40:09 AM
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before focusing on the goal, beginners should understand the risks first.
Yes, it's true that for beginners, apart from having to know what the risks are in investing in crypto, there must also be a good diversification portfolio and don't involve emotions when trading, such as fear and FOMO. In addition, there must also be a Plan B if something happens at any time and make sure the exchanger is trusted so that the safety of our assets is maintained.
some traders must have already chosen their favorite exchange for trading. it is also possible that more traders trade their crypto assets on local exchanges. it makes it easier for them to withdraw funds for those who don't like holding assets on the exchange because that's risky too.
some traders may use some planning. but for day traders I guess they will not focus too much on some planning. they will focus on market analysis. to get profits faster.



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January 31, 2023, 08:44:28 AM
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I just think it is safest to just buy and hold because the bullish move is getting strengthened every day. Or better still be patient enough to wait for the next support zone to get activated then a buy position can be opened with a reasonable stop loss and take profit to limit loss and grab the profit if either activates
I have seen that new investors lose money most of the time but if they invest after thinking well they will gain many times. I don't trust any coin other than bitcoin as I have invested in several coins.  I have lost a lot of money by doing this. But if I invest in Bitcoin, I never think that it will be a loss, it can always be a profit.
I think it's because they don't have enough knowledge and skills because after all it will affect us whether it's investing or trading,
maybe it's better for new investors to learn first and I think it's much more important,
for long-term investment indeed Bitcoin is the right choice but if necessary there is no harm in glancing at the top altcoins.

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January 31, 2023, 12:16:51 PM
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I have seen that new investors lose money most of the time but if they invest after thinking well they will gain many times. I don't trust any coin other than bitcoin as I have invested in several coins.  I have lost a lot of money by doing this. But if I invest in Bitcoin, I never think that it will be a loss, it can always be a profit.

Trust me, old investors will also keep losing money. Traders lose money all the time, and it's a known statistic in all types of trading markets that the majority lose money. Read any kind of investment tool and you'll see the fine print mention this. It doesn't matter if it is foreign exchange, stocks, IPO, it's a given that most people lose money, and even government bonds people lose money because they need to sell it before maturity date (so they have to pay a fee).

The thing to learn is not that they will gain many times from thinking well. But to expect that you will most likely lose, but that your chances are better with smaller gains over the longer term, and from not making trading your main investment of time.

Do your normal job well. Put aside savings, then put aside investments, and invest in proven things like Bitcoin. And still, expect to lose Smiley

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Trust me, old investors will also keep losing money. Traders lose money all the time, and it's a known statistic in all types of trading markets that the majority lose money.
I don't agree with this. Might say they also lose money while still learning but if we say ALWAYS and ALL the time - meaning they didn't do anything to improve their strategies or correct their mistakes. If this is really happening, then we could assume that they no longer stay in the market today as they don't have the reason either.
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The thing to learn is not that they will gain many times from thinking well. But to expect that you will most likely lose, but that your chances are better with smaller gains over the longer term, and from not making trading your main investment of time.

Do your normal job well. Put aside savings, then put aside investments, and invest in proven things like Bitcoin. And still, expect to lose Smiley
You will certainly suffer losses to any form of investment if you never know how to do it. That is why we don't just simply buy coins or anything but also invest first in enhancing our knowledge and investment skills. We can't just empty our brain otherwise we lose them all.

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Trust me, old investors will also keep losing money. Traders lose money all the time, and it's a known statistic in all types of trading markets that the majority lose money.
I don't agree with this. Might say they also lose money while still learning but if we say ALWAYS and ALL the time - meaning they didn't do anything to improve their strategies or correct their mistakes. If this is really happening, then we could assume that they no longer stay in the market today as they don't have the reason either.

You don't have to agree with this. Facts are facts, and that is why I brought up statistics. It is why I brought up the fineprint you get and see whenever you sign an agreement to invest money in something actually regulated by the law.

I did not say that ALL investors lose money, I said traders lose money all the time (this doesn't mean some don't make profit). I was responding to someone who said new investors lose money, but I point out that even old ones do, and all the time. If you're an exchange owner, I guarantee every time you open your dashboard, nett is traders lose.

The moment you open a trade you lose (fees, commissions, spread). You always have to close a trade at a better price you bought/sold.

If this is really happening, then we could assume that they no longer stay in the market today as they don't have the reason either.

Again, we don't have to assume because of statistics. It is really happening. I was not giving an opinion.

Look it up yourself, but I can share one article that has about 10 citations.

https://tradeciety.com/24-statistics-why-most-traders-lose-money

According to them, 1% of traders only have net profit long term.

So you can bet your ass most traders no longer stay in the market.

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February 01, 2023, 06:19:36 PM
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I just think it is safest to just buy and hold because the bullish move is getting strengthened every day. Or better still be patient enough to wait for the next support zone to get activated then a buy position can be opened with a reasonable stop loss and take profit to limit loss and grab the profit if either activates
I have seen that new investors lose money most of the time but if they invest after thinking well they will gain many times. I don't trust any coin other than bitcoin as I have invested in several coins.  I have lost a lot of money by doing this. But if I invest in Bitcoin, I never think that it will be a loss, it can always be a profit.
I think it's because they don't have enough knowledge and skills because after all it will affect us whether it's investing or trading,
maybe it's better for new investors to learn first and I think it's much more important,
for long-term investment indeed Bitcoin is the right choice but if necessary there is no harm in glancing at the top altcoins.

Very important indeed to have a better understanding before taking any steps into any kind of business that you are planning to participate, there are many people who losses their investment because of this wrong impression that they can quickly earn money just following the trend or following someone who already inside the business, without the right ideas you will find yourself ending up losing your entire capital.

It's needed to make sure that your knowledge is fully equipt by all the information that you need, it will be your tools to find  a good success from this venue of investment.

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The most important thing I advised to pay attention to is the need for training. I advise you not to forget to give this time. Because otherwise the result may not be the most positive.
Its common sense on which if you are tending to deal up with something then it would really be just that normal that you should do your assignment on taking up those steps on making yourself learn.
Even though it might not be all in a short span of time but making yourself at least do know on what you should gonna do.Mistakes and errors are common on which it is really that normal
but instead on freaking out then it would be better if you do make yourself thabe versatile and could easily make out adjustments and trying to cope up on things
basing on what you had experience and what you are facing on.
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The most important thing I advised to pay attention to is the need for training. I advise you not to forget to give this time. Because otherwise the result may not be the most positive.
Training and that's to add for the experience.

Those that are good and got enough money and are able to make money through trading, they've trained through their experience. And they make every loss that they've made into a big lesson.

You need to have something back with those losses for you to learn and that's needed as you trade and want to make money off it.

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The most important thing I advised to pay attention to is the need for training. I advise you not to forget to give this time. Because otherwise the result may not be the most positive.
Training and that's to add for the experience.

Those that are good and got enough money and are able to make money through trading, they've trained through their experience. And they make every loss that they've made into a big lesson.

You need to have something back with those losses for you to learn and that's needed as you trade and want to make money off it.
if they are only oriented towards the end result, it is indeed very tempting, let alone being able to profit stably every day, but in the process, of course they are very heavy, going through many stages, both joy and sorrow. short-term trading can be used as a livelihood as long as we can trade correctly, so that we can analyze, set targets and risk losses, because of course there is nothing instant to gain, gain experience and use mistakes to improve ourselves

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The most important thing I advised to pay attention to is the need for training. I advise you not to forget to give this time. Because otherwise the result may not be the most positive.
Training and that's to add for the experience.

Those that are good and got enough money and are able to make money through trading, they've trained through their experience. And they make every loss that they've made into a big lesson.

You need to have something back with those losses for you to learn and that's needed as you trade and want to make money off it.
if they are only oriented towards the end result, it is indeed very tempting, let alone being able to profit stably every day, but in the process, of course they are very heavy, going through many stages, both joy and sorrow. short-term trading can be used as a livelihood as long as we can trade correctly, so that we can analyze, set targets and risk losses, because of course there is nothing instant to gain, gain experience and use mistakes to improve ourselves

Daily trading and being able to profit is of course a fun thing, freedom of time is a very expensive thing nowadays, there are lots of free tools and training on the internet to be successful as a crypto trader, of course we have to go through bad and boring things because maybe we will often lose because they are inexperienced.



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February 02, 2023, 07:45:30 AM
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The most important thing I advised to pay attention to is the need for training. I advise you not to forget to give this time. Because otherwise the result may not be the most positive.
Training and that's to add for the experience.

Those that are good and got enough money and are able to make money through trading, they've trained through their experience. And they make every loss that they've made into a big lesson.

You need to have something back with those losses for you to learn and that's needed as you trade and want to make money off it.
if they are only oriented towards the end result, it is indeed very tempting, let alone being able to profit stably every day, but in the process, of course they are very heavy, going through many stages, both joy and sorrow. short-term trading can be used as a livelihood as long as we can trade correctly, so that we can analyze, set targets and risk losses, because of course there is nothing instant to gain, gain experience and use mistakes to improve ourselves
It's like that, but sometimes some people tend to want instant things without the need for a process which is impossible,
it's not easy though as long as you have the knowledge and skills I think it will be very helpful in short term trading,
Never stop learning and keep looking for experience.

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The most important thing I advised to pay attention to is the need for training. I advise you not to forget to give this time. Because otherwise the result may not be the most positive.
Training and that's to add for the experience.

Those that are good and got enough money and are able to make money through trading, they've trained through their experience. And they make every loss that they've made into a big lesson.

You need to have something back with those losses for you to learn and that's needed as you trade and want to make money off it.
if they are only oriented towards the end result, it is indeed very tempting, let alone being able to profit stably every day, but in the process, of course they are very heavy, going through many stages, both joy and sorrow. short-term trading can be used as a livelihood as long as we can trade correctly, so that we can analyze, set targets and risk losses, because of course there is nothing instant to gain, gain experience and use mistakes to improve ourselves
To say that you want to earn stably through trading every day, I doubt it that you can perfect the entire week without very loss. Trading isn't just all about day trading or what. But it's all about being patient and the most patient observes and understands what act must be done.

I know that there are few day traders that rely on trading but, there will be times that they don't have to make a profit within the day because the market isn't on their favor so, they have to wait and look for some other day to profit with their trades.

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Trust me, old investors will also keep losing money. Traders lose money all the time, and it's a known statistic in all types of trading markets that the majority lose money.
I don't agree with this. Might say they also lose money while still learning but if we say ALWAYS and ALL the time - meaning they didn't do anything to improve their strategies or correct their mistakes. If this is really happening, then we could assume that they no longer stay in the market today as they don't have the reason either.
You don't have to agree with this. Facts are facts, and that is why I brought up statistics. It is why I brought up the fineprint you get and see whenever you sign an agreement to invest money in something actually regulated by the law.

I did not say that ALL investors lose money, I said traders lose money all the time (this doesn't mean some don't make profit). I was responding to someone who said new investors lose money, but I point out that even old ones do, and all the time. If you're an exchange owner, I guarantee every time you open your dashboard, nett is traders lose.

The moment you open a trade you lose (fees, commissions, spread). You always have to close a trade at a better price you bought/sold.
I do agree that traders lose money all the time, it is one of those things where it would be very hard for people to realize how they are not even remotely close to what they should be doing, it's something that requires a lot of time and a lot of knowledge and information and the right timing to make profit from trading and there are so many people out there who doesn't really make that profit and that causes them to not understand why.

If you knew why you lost, then you would not repeat that too frequently, but even if you are a veteran trader and traded for years, you will have moments where you make a bad trade. It's just the way the market works, nobody can be perfect.

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The most important thing I advised to pay attention to is the need for training. I advise you not to forget to give this time. Because otherwise the result may not be the most positive.
Training and that's to add for the experience.

Those that are good and got enough money and are able to make money through trading, they've trained through their experience. And they make every loss that they've made into a big lesson.

You need to have something back with those losses for you to learn and that's needed as you trade and want to make money off it.
if they are only oriented towards the end result, it is indeed very tempting, let alone being able to profit stably every day, but in the process, of course they are very heavy, going through many stages, both joy and sorrow. short-term trading can be used as a livelihood as long as we can trade correctly, so that we can analyze, set targets and risk losses, because of course there is nothing instant to gain, gain experience and use mistakes to improve ourselves
To say that you want to earn stably through trading every day, I doubt it that you can perfect the entire week without very loss. Trading isn't just all about day trading or what. But it's all about being patient and the most patient observes and understands what act must be done.

I know that there are few day traders that rely on trading but, there will be times that they don't have to make a profit within the day because the market isn't on their favor so, they have to wait and look for some other day to profit with their trades.

That's possible, it's not easy to gain profits from time to time but the chance that you will have more winning trade than losing if you understand how the market works and how you will take advantage of your good knowledge when anticipating the next market movements, it's not many that have this capability but there are some quiet traders who can earned with day trading and enjoying how they make some good money maker for their investment.

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I think that this thread has been widely read by many people, because in part everyone wants to make money, whoever is here in the forum and says that they do not want to make money, and that they are only here to be enthusiastic or something is a big lie Of course there will be millionaires who are for that reason, but in percentage it is not like that, it should be 1% perhaps at best, but everyone here sees a magical way to see if they can make money, and I think that money can be made , but not from one day to the next, but having enough time and patience to do it, this is something that can be achieved if you trade but I think you should wait at least 5 years with few but consistent money inflows.


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The most important thing I advised to pay attention to is the need for training. I advise you not to forget to give this time. Because otherwise the result may not be the most positive.
Training and that's to add for the experience.

Those that are good and got enough money and are able to make money through trading, they've trained through their experience. And they make every loss that they've made into a big lesson.

You need to have something back with those losses for you to learn and that's needed as you trade and want to make money off it.
if they are only oriented towards the end result, it is indeed very tempting, let alone being able to profit stably every day, but in the process, of course they are very heavy, going through many stages, both joy and sorrow. short-term trading can be used as a livelihood as long as we can trade correctly, so that we can analyze, set targets and risk losses, because of course there is nothing instant to gain, gain experience and use mistakes to improve ourselves
To say that you want to earn stably through trading every day, I doubt it that you can perfect the entire week without very loss. Trading isn't just all about day trading or what. But it's all about being patient and the most patient observes and understands what act must be done.

I know that there are few day traders that rely on trading but, there will be times that they don't have to make a profit within the day because the market isn't on their favor so, they have to wait and look for some other day to profit with their trades.

That's possible, it's not easy to gain profits from time to time but the chance that you will have more winning trade than losing if you understand how the market works and how you will take advantage of your good knowledge when anticipating the next market movements, it's not many that have this capability but there are some quiet traders who can earned with day trading and enjoying how they make some good money maker for their investment.
That's the importance of continuing to learn whether it's knowledge or skills,
market movements are difficult to predict and in-depth analysis is needed which is not easy to do,
having a lot of experience seems to help to make a profit with day trading.

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I think that this thread has been widely read by many people, because in part everyone wants to make money, whoever is here in the forum and says that they do not want to make money, and that they are only here to be enthusiastic or something is a big lie Of course there will be millionaires who are for that reason, but in percentage it is not like that, it should be 1% perhaps at best, but everyone here sees a magical way to see if they can make money, and I think that money can be made , but not from one day to the next, but having enough time and patience to do it, this is something that can be achieved if you trade but I think you should wait at least 5 years with few but consistent money inflows.



Agreed as a maximum of people wait for a miracle to become millionaires such as holding shitcoins and expecting it can boom to 100$ and I am going to be Millionaire. Actually, this category of people use to live in their comfort zone and dear if you can't trigger your comfort zone then you can't make money. I crypto, as you advise time, is money and Yes you have to wait for some results but 5 years I think it can be 2 years if you are well aware and consistent in the crypto market a single Cycle Bear to Bull run can return you as much you are expecting higher the bid higher the profit.

I am not aware of what people are suggesting to each other but I think sometimes you need to be lucky and sometimes you need to be patient but consistency is important in both.

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Many people who enter here especially to earn money with trading is that they do not give up, but yes, do not give up if you study the market enough, what you can do is read a lot about trading, but not technical analysis but also of how to understand or comprehend the market, if a person is studious, he knows that a book will give him more wisdom than an academy will not, not concentrating on technical analysis is an option, when a person knows how to analyze the trading system of how to As the market moves, it is easier to use technical analysis to make decisions more precise, so I see these things that way, my advice is to study and read books before trading.

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Many people who enter here especially to earn money with trading is that they do not give up, but yes, do not give up if you study the market enough, what you can do is read a lot about trading, but not technical analysis but also of how to understand or comprehend the market, if a person is studious, he knows that a book will give him more wisdom than an academy will not, not concentrating on technical analysis is an option, when a person knows how to analyze the trading system of how to As the market moves, it is easier to use technical analysis to make decisions more precise, so I see these things that way, my advice is to study and read books before trading.

Reading the book and keep research or analyze how to be success in trading I don't think enough, there are not matter with how expert you are for predicting about Bitcoin or altcoin price always get loss from whales speak up. Waste all your chart checking every time when whales make good or bad news about cryptocurrency and have bigger impact price later.

I don't waste my time reading the book and learning technical or analysis about how Bitcoin and altcoin price later, I am waiting when have drop values about fewest percent is the moment buy back and take profit about 4% until 8% without waste time keep researching only without any try for investing.

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February 11, 2023, 07:25:03 PM
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Many people who enter here especially to earn money with trading is that they do not give up, but yes, do not give up if you study the market enough, what you can do is read a lot about trading, but not technical analysis but also of how to understand or comprehend the market, if a person is studious, he knows that a book will give him more wisdom than an academy will not, not concentrating on technical analysis is an option, when a person knows how to analyze the trading system of how to As the market moves, it is easier to use technical analysis to make decisions more precise, so I see these things that way, my advice is to study and read books before trading.

You wouldn't care in all of this when you are really that tending to hold for long term.If you do decide to go for short term calls then getting in would be your main concern.All of us here on this market is really here for

money on which it would really be that impossible for us not to do our best on dealing it up specially with volatility.There's no way that you could really not able to think and this is our main priority on why we are here.
It is really just that you shouldnt really make yourself greedy and dont make yourself in a rush because this would create lots of mistakes and errors which would causes up losses.
There's no way for us to be a perfect investor which losses are inevitable, thing here is that you do know on what you are doing.

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February 12, 2023, 06:12:19 PM
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Many people who enter here especially to earn money with trading is that they do not give up, but yes, do not give up if you study the market enough, what you can do is read a lot about trading, but not technical analysis but also of how to understand or comprehend the market, if a person is studious, he knows that a book will give him more wisdom than an academy will not, not concentrating on technical analysis is an option, when a person knows how to analyze the trading system of how to As the market moves, it is easier to use technical analysis to make decisions more precise, so I see these things that way, my advice is to study and read books before trading.


The book can give basis but the actual experienced will give you the right understanding with how the market works and how it can bring you the money that you are aiming to earned, it's not easy but things are doable if you are keen to succeed from this venture, there are many available channel where you can find information that can be added to be a good basis when starting your investment or your trading activities.

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February 23, 2023, 07:24:30 PM
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You forgot mention very important point here and that's: stay away from the ponzi schemes. Crypto space is full of that and you wont believe how one gets deceived into the grim unreal world of investments. Bitcoin followed by other currencies were actually meant to relieve the stress of centralized burden of transactions from the shoulders of user.

However, soon few of the people started turning it into the business models of making quick money. Whether it is ICO sales, cool graphical roadmaps, utility coins, or whatever that lures people, had scam scheme one another after one.

Back then also we had such advice topics but somehow there is always that one new person who gets scammed, Better learn from the mistakes of everyone who shares their bad events. Smiley
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You forgot mention very important point here and that's: stay away from the ponzi schemes. Crypto space is full of that and you wont believe how one gets deceived into the grim unreal world of investments. Bitcoin followed by other currencies were actually meant to relieve the stress of centralized burden of transactions from the shoulders of user.

However, soon few of the people started turning it into the business models of making quick money. Whether it is ICO sales, cool graphical roadmaps, utility coins, or whatever that lures people, had scam scheme one another after one.

Back then also we had such advice topics but somehow there is always that one new person who gets scammed, Better learn from the mistakes of everyone who shares their bad events. Smiley
The cryptoccurrency seen is crawlin with Ponzi schemes left and right, and you need to be on the lookout for these shady characters. Dont fall for snake-oil salesmens phony promises of insane returns with no risk. My dad, that's a dead givaway of a Ponzi scheme.

A lack of transparency is another red flag to be on the lookout for. If the people behind the investment are keeping things quiet about how things work, or if they are not providing you with the information you require, this is a major red flag. Legitimite investments are open and transparent about their returns, so dont let anyone fool you.

Remember, if somethin appears to be too good to be true, it probably is. Alwayss doo your homework and thoroughly research any investment opportunity before handin over your money. Keep it safe out there, homies!
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Although for a long time every time I went to BTC futures I took losses otherwise not losses but profits were not much due to slow movement.Still I am heavily dependent on BTC because cryptocurrency BTC has created a position to which all other tokens or coins move.Your choice of coin or project will have a major impact on how this plays out It would be necessary for you to embrace all potential danger up front or whatever you might run across along the way if you were truly going or seeking the money.
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You forgot mention very important point here and that's: stay away from the ponzi schemes. Crypto space is full of that and you wont believe how one gets deceived into the grim unreal world of investments. Bitcoin followed by other currencies were actually meant to relieve the stress of centralized burden of transactions from the shoulders of user.

However, soon few of the people started turning it into the business models of making quick money. Whether it is ICO sales, cool graphical roadmaps, utility coins, or whatever that lures people, had scam scheme one another after one.

Back then also we had such advice topics but somehow there is always that one new person who gets scammed, Better learn from the mistakes of everyone who shares their bad events. Smiley

Good to point that out since ponzi is always there to circulate around this market, there are many different ways that scammers will offer to bring interest to both newcomers and old timers. They are good in alluring people most for those who are aiming for quick benefits, they are willing to take the risk for a quick outcome.

Scammers will introduce new sets of ideas, having a deeper knowledge of how they promote this kind of business is really important, basing things with experienced either your own or with someone who got scammed.

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Even the best traders have bad trading days.
Yes, of course the best traders have bad days. There are many traders who can make predictions on trading platforms. Sometimes all those traders also have to fall into bad situations. The market does not always influence the analysis, sometimes it is influenced very badly. I have personally seen that many times after taking the trading from the market one has to suffer a lot of losses and it takes a long time to recover from those losses. So trading platforms can never guarantee that you will never incur losses.
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February 25, 2023, 07:51:09 PM
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Many people who enter here especially to earn money with trading is that they do not give up, but yes, do not give up if you study the market enough, what you can do is read a lot about trading, but not technical analysis but also of how to understand or comprehend the market, if a person is studious, he knows that a book will give him more wisdom than an academy will not, not concentrating on technical analysis is an option, when a person knows how to analyze the trading system of how to As the market moves, it is easier to use technical analysis to make decisions more precise, so I see these things that way, my advice is to study and read books before trading.

You wouldn't care in all of this when you are really that tending to hold for long term.If you do decide to go for short term calls then getting in would be your main concern.All of us here on this market is really here for

money on which it would really be that impossible for us not to do our best on dealing it up specially with volatility.There's no way that you could really not able to think and this is our main priority on why we are here.
It is really just that you shouldnt really make yourself greedy and dont make yourself in a rush because this would create lots of mistakes and errors which would causes up losses.
There's no way for us to be a perfect investor which losses are inevitable, thing here is that you do know on what you are doing.
It is true, but there is something to keep in mind, I read a very interesting book by Warren Buffet who said that his secret was to find the most appropriate action (with a lot of research) and that could generate a great profit in the long term, and due to to his fundamental analysis or research, he found the best stock and then bought it, of course he said that you should wait 8 to 10 years to see the benefits.

If we make a simple analogy, we can assume that we have a great advantage, that the safe action is bitcoin, and that we just have to buy and that's it, follow-up and a lot of patience, and since bitcoin does not take that many years to rise, it is likely that we will see very good results in a short time, we don't know, it may be like a lottery, but it is a great prize.

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easy to say but its really hard to applied,I understand emotions can't be used when trading because you won't be able to control them, but if we are proficient, I think making consistent profits every day is not difficult.

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March 07, 2023, 02:20:00 PM
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Several newcomers were given false information about how crypto could alter their lives, which led them to assume that they could make quick cash by just trading their money in the market or believing in a signal from someone claiming they could become wealthy by trading at them. They must understand that they are dealing with unforeseen circumstances, therefore we must maintain our attention and gather all the necessary data to be better prepared to trade coins on the market. Since you pointed out, even seasoned traders lose all of their money due to poor selections they make, they shouldn't feel at ease knowing the fundamentals.
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easy to say but its really hard to applied,I understand emotions can't be used when trading because you won't be able to control them, but if we are proficient, I think making consistent profits every day is not difficult.
Just like on what you had said on your first sentence that it would really be that easy to say but it is really that hard to be done specially when you are already on that actual situation on which
you cant really be able to assure out that you could really be having consistent profit specially  here on trading space.Even veterans or professionals couldnt really be having that kind of
of conditions on making money which losses are inevitable still.The advantage is that when it comes to situation handling then these fellas does know on what to do if ever they do
encounter some common situations or scenarios.Making money is never been easy and simple on this unpredictable market.
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March 07, 2023, 09:25:55 PM
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Several newcomers were given false information about how crypto could alter their lives, which led them to assume that they could make quick cash by just trading their money in the market or believing in a signal from someone claiming they could become wealthy by trading at them. They must understand that they are dealing with unforeseen circumstances, therefore we must maintain our attention and gather all the necessary data to be better prepared to trade coins on the market. Since you pointed out, even seasoned traders lose all of their money due to poor selections they make, they shouldn't feel at ease knowing the fundamentals.
They may gamble on trading that it will make them rich overnight , Moreover, trading in this way can be called a kind of gambling because despite not having any knowledge for trading, not being able to read how the handles are ups and downs, moreover, trading without knowing the basics means just leaving it to luck and investing in the hope of profit.So don't keep in mind that only profit will be made in trading, first get good knowledge about this and then try.


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