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December 19, 2022, 04:26:44 PM
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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.
There was when I was very much concerned about the activities of 1xbit and their promoters but at a certain time I had to understand that they are part of the community.
A community where scam is not moderated there is no how you will have to push 1xbit out of it.
Instead of bothering yourself about how to eliminate 1xbit you can help in spreading the news that the company is a scam company so that newcomers will avoid them. 1xbit is very much interested in promotion which means they invest huge amounts of money in promotion and they have a lot of games which they used to lure in gamblers. Be prepared to see 1xbit as one of the longest lasting gambling company in this forum as long as the forum still exist

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December 19, 2022, 04:27:32 PM
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December 19, 2022, 04:56:52 PM
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December 19, 2022, 05:48:43 PM
Last edit: December 19, 2022, 06:21:28 PM by Rikafip
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This whole thing makes no sense to me. I'm speaking from personal experience, not what random users think about them; shouldn't customer feedback hold more weight in this case? And as a long-time customer of 1xbet, I can tell you that they have proven to be trustworthy since their arrival in my region in 2018. I don't care, and I can't tell what's going on in other regions. My dudes from our gambling Twitter NG are making more than $30k in dollar equivalent and making instant withdrawals without any hassle.
Just because you didn't have any issues with 1xBet doesn't mean that others had the same experience, or that they are not connected with 1xBit. By the way, there are some interesting news coming from Curacao regarding 1xBet as they have been sued by players for not paying them their winnings, after which it was declared bankrupt. That of course won't stop them as they moved out from there and will continue their business elsewhere.

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Further investigation revealed that 1xCorp owed millions of dollars in unpaid taxes and winnings, but was managing to juggle its debts in order to stay afloat. The court eventually ruled in favor of SBGOK and declared the operator bankrupt. However, some skillful legal maneuvering allowed 1xCorp to overturn the initial court decision by disputing SBGOK’s rights to represent players. What followed was a prolonged legal tug-of-war. As of the writing of this article, 1xCorp is in the process of appealing the court’s latest verdict, but it appears the company is just stalling the inevitable.

SBGOK originally claimed that the 17 players it represented were due 1.6 million Netherlands Antillean guilders (approximately €830,000) in a mixture of fiat and cryptocurrency. Three more individuals have since levied individual claims, and the Curaçao government joined in by demanding €1.3 million in unpaid taxes

And 89/100 of our comedy celebrities are 1xbet ambassadors with customized promcodes
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1) Are 1xBit and 1xBet the same company?
From the evidence I saw, I believe that they are controlled by the same group of people.


2) If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, can the opinion about 1xBet influence the opinion about 1xBit (and vice versa)?
That's up to you to decide, even though its obvious to me.

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December 19, 2022, 07:49:47 PM
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This whole thing makes no sense to me. I'm speaking from personal experience, not what random users think about them; shouldn't customer feedback hold more weight in this case? And as a long-time customer of 1xbet, I can tell you that they have proven to be trustworthy since their arrival in my region in 2018. I don't care, and I can't tell what's going on in other regions. My dudes from our gambling Twitter NG are making more than $30k in dollar equivalent and making instant withdrawals without any hassle.
Just because you didn't have any issues with 1xBet doesn't mean that others had the same experience, or that they are not connected with 1xBit. By the way, there are some interesting news coming from Curacao regarding 1xBet as they have been sued by players for not paying them their winnings, after which it was declared bankrupt. That of course won't stop them as they moved out from there and will continue their business elsewhere.

Trouble has been brewing in Curaçao since November 2021 when 1XCorp was declared bankrupt by a local court. Player advocacy group SBGOK filed a lawsuit on behalf of several players whose winnings 1xBet allegedly failed to pay out. According to Curaçao’s Attorney General, failure to honor even a single due claim was a sufficient cause to declare a company bankrupt.
man One branch out of possible eight having mismanaged player funds and being sued does not necessarily imply that the entire company is scam; it only demonstrates how poorly 1xbet Curacao is run. The article is humorous and contradictory. Was 1xbet's refusal to abide by the local court's order sufficient grounds for declaring them bankrupt? Well, as I mentioned earlier, 1xBet is operating successfully in my area and for the most part throughout Africa. It has physical offices in every state of operation. Funny enough, there are always complaints about payouts and withdrawal on every bookies page. There is always going to be that one person who would break the rules, cry later, and then post something online to spread fear.

the domain registrant of 1xbet is visible tracing to real life identity while that of 1xbit is not. can they really be the same ownership?

The fact that the domain is registered with a privacy service does not mean anything. Anyone can do that. Besides, 1XBET is also a white label software provider, so you can even run "your own" casino on top of their platform. This was exactly the case with 22bet.com, BetWinner, Melbet.com, KawBet.com, Pnxbet, Cleobet, Adkinsbet and many other scam sites from the same BetB2B platform.
i don't know about the others but 22bet, Betwinner and Melbet are not scammers, these are still popular gambling site in my region and i have an account with these three as well. verified and trusted.

Barcelona will never allow sponsorship from a scam company, i guess we are missing something

Of course they would, and they did. Money makes many things possible. After all, it is a $10 million deal per season.

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Why would Barca renounce the 1xbet sponsorship due to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine when we are led to believe that anything associated with Russia is evil or detrimental to society? Man, it's already 2023, and everyone is sick of the media's constant attempts to politicize everything. What connections do these articles make with the OP and the 1xbit/1xbet discussion? Cool

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That situation has been ongoing for years and will probably remain without any form of resolution too. The 1xbit forum representative tried to address the accusations for a period of time updating the thread with information but in the end the number of complaints (genuine and fake) became too much for them to keep on posting about how they resolved the issues, countered them or addressed them.

Some may have withdrawn funds before getting scammed, not all were that fortunate.

There’s been an open allegation against them on the forum for a long time which is yet to be resolved but the company still goes about its business on the forum, opening new signature campaigns as if nothing’s happened. They are quite untouchable because scams are not moderated on the forum. It’s a tricky thing what to believe, @Saint-loup says he was able to withdraw his winnings from the casino successfully, other people may not be so lucky. some of the problems users are having with the casino are partly their own fault of not reading the T&C and the issues are not particular to 1xbit but other online casinos as well. But they have such a bad reputation that it's embedded in my mind that they are not to be trusted. Personally I wouldn't risk using this casino when there are reputable casinos.

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Barcelona will never allow sponsorship from a scam company, i guess we are missing something

Of course they would, and they did. Money makes many things possible. After all, it is a $10 million deal per season.

And the same thing again. Your argument is dismantled, as I explained before, by the fact that 1xbet.es does not accept deposits in cryptocurrencies. You don't say anything about that?

To say that Barcelona knows it is a scam site, when there is not a single piece of evidence that 1xbet.es is one is ridiculous.

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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

Don't be too hasty in taking a conclusion about something in life 1xbit may be a scamming casino indeed there's no doubt about that because it has chosen to have that kind of reputation on the forum because of the present and past ugly shades but let's consider they never go against any of the forum's rules and regulations that could warrant their ban, just as you and i or any other person can perform evil outside the forum and yet comes here without receiving a ban because that's your type of personality as long as you ain't against the rules here, but should incase the forum is aware of such thing that you do and with evidence, then it will only tag you to serve as warning for those who will be coming across with you on the forum.
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It seems we have a complicated situation here and some questions. Two come to my mind:
1) Are 1xBit and 1xBet the same company?
2) If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, can the opinion about 1xBet influence the opinion about 1xBit (and vice versa)?
I don't have enough statement about 1xBet and 1xBit are the same company or not, regarding with 1xBet have many football club become their official partner. For 1xBit have many scam accusation thread and this casino gambling claimed as scam and not allowed for promoting through signature code and get negative feedback if any one want advertising with 1xBit.

Seems can't find with 1xBet ANN thread in Bitcointalk forum, except they don't have any program with signature campaign but not any user have signature code for advertising with 1xBet. There are legal casino gambling or not I don't have specific answer after looking many football team have logo at their T-Shirt with 1xBet.

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It seems we have a complicated situation here and some questions. Two come to my mind:
1) Are 1xBit and 1xBet the same company?
2) If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, can the opinion about 1xBet influence the opinion about 1xBit (and vice versa)?
I don't have enough statement about 1xBet and 1xBit are the same company or not, regarding with 1xBet have many football club become their official partner. For 1xBit have many scam accusation thread and this casino gambling claimed as scam and not allowed for promoting through signature code and get negative feedback if any one want advertising with 1xBit.

Seems can't find with 1xBet ANN thread in Bitcointalk forum, except they don't have any program with signature campaign but not any user have signature code for advertising with 1xBet. There are legal casino gambling or not I don't have specific answer after looking many football team have logo at their T-Shirt with 1xBet.

1xBet has no ANN thread on Bitcointalk or Signature Campaign as it is a FIAT service. Its equivalent in the crypto world is 1xBit. There are many indications that it is the same company, but there is no clear evidence for this.
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I don't have enough statement about 1xBet and 1xBit are the same company or not, regarding with 1xBet have many football club become their official partner. For 1xBit have many scam accusation thread and this casino gambling claimed as scam and not allowed for promoting through signature code and get negative feedback if any one want advertising with 1xBit.

Seems can't find with 1xBet ANN thread in Bitcointalk forum, except they don't have any program with signature campaign but not any user have signature code for advertising with 1xBet. There are legal casino gambling or not I don't have specific answer after looking many football team have logo at their T-Shirt with 1xBet.
The fact is that 1xbet is heavily on marketing and sponsoring tournaments and clubs nowadays. They are the same company under different names. I read some articles about them using different names to advertise on tv and making it legal to post ads on tv where betting promotion is restricted.
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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.
1xbit gambling site, not only advertised on Bitcointalk, the ratio is 10/100: 10 here and 100 spread on Google & the internet, which one is dangerous, of course 1xbit advertising is more dangerous outside than here, thankfully 1xbit users on Bitcointalk have a 1xbit scam gambling site warning, as you know, of course users can see the warning and think well 1xbit is dangerous to place bets.

How about 1xbit ads outside of Bitcointalk that have no warning at all, users who see big bonuses, bets are paid multiple times, easy to access and in the end users have problems, you should prevent 1xbit ads on google and free internet without warning, careless users are warned here who keep falling into the same holes.

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December 20, 2022, 04:29:28 PM
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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.
1xbit gambling site, not only advertised on Bitcointalk, the ratio is 10/100: 10 here and 100 spread on Google & the internet, which one is dangerous, of course 1xbit advertising is more dangerous outside than here, thankfully 1xbit users on Bitcointalk have a 1xbit scam gambling site warning, as you know, of course users can see the warning and think well 1xbit is dangerous to place bets.

How about 1xbit ads outside of Bitcointalk that have no warning at all, users who see big bonuses, bets are paid multiple times, easy to access and in the end users have problems, you should prevent 1xbit ads on google and free internet without warning, careless users are warned here who keep falling into the same holes.

If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, maybe it would be good to write a petition to FC Barcelon and Serie A to take a closer look on this matter and stop advertising this scammers?!
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December 20, 2022, 07:11:37 PM
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It seems we have a complicated situation here and some questions. Two come to my mind:
1) Are 1xBit and 1xBet the same company?
2) If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, can the opinion about 1xBet influence the opinion about 1xBit (and vice versa)?
I don't have enough statement about 1xBet and 1xBit are the same company or not, regarding with 1xBet have many football club become their official partner. For 1xBit have many scam accusation thread and this casino gambling claimed as scam and not allowed for promoting through signature code and get negative feedback if any one want advertising with 1xBit.

Seems can't find with 1xBet ANN thread in Bitcointalk forum, except they don't have any program with signature campaign but not any user have signature code for advertising with 1xBet. There are legal casino gambling or not I don't have specific answer after looking many football team have logo at their T-Shirt with 1xBet.

1xBet has no ANN thread on Bitcointalk or Signature Campaign as it is a FIAT service. Its equivalent in the crypto world is 1xBit. There are many indications that it is the same company, but there is no clear evidence for this.

Going through some investigation on internet I have found information which suggests the parent company behind the operation of 1xbet to be a company called 1X Corp N.V.

This company is allegedly also behind the Bitcoin Casino 1xbit, both supposedly de-facto based in Russia.

I am not sure if both casinos are illegitimate or it is only 1xbit, I assume it would be harder for a fiat casino to scam their clients they way 1xbit does, but again I have no evidence right now.

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December 20, 2022, 07:26:36 PM
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One of the reasons 1xbit is having more customers (if the gambling site is having more customers), is because it is advertising even beyond this forum, I have seen its ads on many other sites too.
They are not just advertising online but sponsoring major sports leagues as well, this year PSG announced them as their regional partner in Africa and Asia and i have seen their advertisements in television. What is surprising is that they are still active and these major sports teams are taking these sponsorship despite all the scam accusation and even refusing to pay millions of dollars to the users even after a court verdict.

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If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, maybe it would be good to write a petition to FC Barcelon and Serie A to take a closer look on this matter and stop advertising this scammers?!
Do you really think they are unaware of these scam accusation, just a google search would provide all these details and these teams are only interested in taking the money rather than looking for the reputation of the club.
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December 20, 2022, 07:38:33 PM
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If 1xBit and 1xBet are the same company, maybe it would be good to write a petition to FC Barcelon and Serie A to take a closer look on this matter and stop advertising this scammers?!
Do you really think they are unaware of these scam accusation, just a google search would provide all these details and these teams are only interested in taking the money rather than looking for the reputation of the club.

There are only two options: Either they don't know that 1xBet and 1xBit are the same company, or FC Barcelona and Serie A have better research than Bitcointalk users.
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December 20, 2022, 07:38:49 PM
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I don’t think 1xbit is a worthy discussion. We know they know we can’t kick them out of the forum. It’s obvious they do not care about their trust rating on bitcointalk, they get enough publicity outside the forum with zero or minimal confrontation. No one except us here at bitcointalk care about the illegal activities of 1xbit, they have zero confrontation on the other websites they advertise their casino. if you search on the internet “is 1xbit a scam” you will find a bitcointalk thread about 1xbit on the first page. That’s why the victims of 1xbit keep on coming here to lay their complaints forgetting that bitcointalk isn’t the official page of 1xbit.
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December 20, 2022, 08:36:17 PM
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You are welcome too flumpnuggets 😘
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I really don't want to bump the 1xxxshit related topics so I am out from the it.

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December 20, 2022, 08:40:04 PM
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The structure of the forum (not just related to 1xbit but all websites that range between highly suspect and out-and-out scams) is as such that they are not moderated in the forum and that is why they have been space to breathe here.

As you rightly said, we cannot kick them out and as they have lost all concerns about their trust ratings there is not way to tackle them. One way to cause some form of disruption to their plans within the forum is to discourage members from participating in their signature campaigns.

There is no solution to the problem unless they authorities close it down or they actually address every single complaint against them and settle all outstanding issues then start a journey towards being a genuine trustworthy business. Unfortunately, things do not seem like they will change any time soon.

I don’t think 1xbit is a worthy discussion. We know they know we can’t kick them out of the forum. It’s obvious they do not care about their trust rating on bitcointalk, they get enough publicity outside the forum with zero or minimal confrontation. No one except us here at bitcointalk care about the illegal activities of 1xbit, they have zero confrontation on the other websites they advertise their casino. if you search on the internet “is 1xbit a scam” you will find a bitcointalk thread about 1xbit on the first page. That’s why the victims of 1xbit keep on coming here to lay their complaints forgetting that bitcointalk isn’t the official page of 1xbit.

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