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December 21, 2022, 08:14:18 PM
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Well i start this topic most for fun, but also to share with you some hints, facts, lucky elements, superstitions and fortuity around Argentina World Cup 2022 what ended in the champion.

First to all most of you already know, but im Argentinian , so i have so more acces to info from here.

We start with like the title said, Scaloni the manager of the national team , the theory its based in a photo taken circa 1980 in the picture were, Cesar Luis Menotti ( manager champion from 1978) Carlos Salvador Bilardo ( manager champion from 1986 ) and one guy.... and that guy its incredible similar to Lionel Scaloni (in that time he was like 5 years old).




Im going to keep adding more in the next hours and days , keep tracking.


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December 23, 2022, 05:43:36 PM
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Some coincidences.

1- In 1978 and 1986, Argentina played the final against a country that had been a finalist in the previous edition.

🇳🇱Holland was in 1974 and 🇩🇪Germany in 1982 and now France was in 2018.

2- In 1986, the referee was 🇧🇷 Romualdo Arppi Filho, born on January 7, 1939.

🇵🇱 Szymon Marciniak, referee of Sunday's final, was born on January 7, 1981.

3- In 1986, there were several results that are repeated in this world cup.

🇨🇦 Canada participating.
🇲🇦 Morocco passing the group stage in group F and beating Portugal (3-1 in 1986 and 1-0 in 2022).
🇧🇷 Brazil being left out in 4th due to penalties.

4- One related to PSG. Ronaldinho joined in 2001 and was champion the following year. Mbappé joined in 2017 and was champion the following year.

Messi joined in 2021...

5- In 1978 and 1986, Argentina played the final with its starting jersey. This was not repeated in any of the other three finals played by our country. And in 2022 Argentina use the starting jersey, so its 3/3.

6- Only in 1978 and 1986, the goalkeeper of the opposing team wore a yellow shirt.

Lloris will use the same color.

7- In 1986, Argentina reached the final 8 years after reaching their last final.

In 2022, Argentina reaches the final 8 years after the last final played.

8- Only one World Cup had been played in Qatar, the under 20s in 1995. Argentina lost 1 game in the group stage (0-1 vs. Portugal) and won the final against Brazil, the defending champion.

In 2022, Argentina loses a match in the group stage and plays the final against the defending champion.


9- Gualeguay (alittle city of Argentina) is also part of a coincidence.

It was the only city from Entre Rios represented in both 1986 (Burruchaga) and 2022 (Lisandro Martínez).

10- The last time a Cordovan wore the number 9 of the Argentine national team was Cuciuffo, in 1986.

Now, it is also used by one born in Córdoba, Julián Álvarez.

11- Maradona left Barcelona in 1984, to play in the league of the country that had been world champion (Italy).

Messi left Barcelona in 2021, to play in the French league (last world champion).

12- Belgrano (an Argentinian team) came out twice champion of the Argentine promotion to first division.

In 1986 and in 2022.

Well we have some more but this are very well recopilated by this guy, all credit to him. Its in spanish and i traslate and add some hints to make the post more clearfull

https://twitter.com/Tomiconcina1/status/1603575924582031360



If some of you like this kind of post let me know and i can bring more.

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December 23, 2022, 05:52:09 PM
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How this is related to gambling discussion?

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December 23, 2022, 06:11:21 PM
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How this is related to gambling discussion?

So where should the topic be?
It's a football related topic that's talking about a football manger. If this kind of topic is not in gambling discussion then where should it be? He's clearly talking about the coincidences with what happened this year and what happened other years that Argentina won the world cup which is definitely a gambling discussion topic.

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December 23, 2022, 06:19:38 PM
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How this is related to gambling discussion?

How this is related to gambling discussion?

So where should the topic be?
It's a football related topic that's talking about a football manger. If this kind of topic is not in gambling discussion then where should it be? He's clearly talking about the coincidences with what happened this year and what happened other years that Argentina won the world cup which is definitely a gambling discussion topic.


Harapan answer perfectly for me. But im gonna add some more, maybe you are not so envolved in sportbetting but a lot , of bettors make bets only for this kind of historical things. Its weird i know but its the reality.

And also a lot of gambling threads here are most talk about the sports or whatever around the gambling itself.

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December 23, 2022, 08:33:30 PM
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I do enjoy these kinds of posts, but in a really trivial way -- problem is I'd enjoy them BEFORE a tournament where you might have brought it up before the World Cup, and every Argentina win (and eventual titles) could carry bets based entirely on the Time Traveller strategy Wink

Nevertheless, this post is worth more than 90% of gambling posts on this forum. Would merit if I actually had any.

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December 23, 2022, 08:45:36 PM
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That 7th point of the second post of you man in this thread,that is the most brilliant of all points,Argentina had won their 1986 cup after having been in the final in 1978 and now Argentina won the 2022 world cup after having been in the final in 2014 and they were near winning it there too but luck which is the most determining factor in such events was not with Argentina.

I think that they also lost in 1990,the first final I saw as a 6 year old kid with Maradona losing to a Klinsman penalty against Germany and I cried a lot at that time because even me being not in South America at that time,everybody was talking about Maradona so I was already a fan of Argentina.It is sad how Maradona could not live to see this title but that is life.

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December 23, 2022, 09:37:50 PM
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Well, this is a kind of thread one does not see around here everyday.
Thanks for taking the time to share. I guess it would have been also very productive to share it before the finals of the world cup.
Most people who bet on football teams are not aware of the amount of history, coincidences and superstition behind them.

I hope the celebrations there in your country are not too loud, so you can sleep.  Smiley



 

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December 24, 2022, 01:13:37 AM
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Thanks for yours comments!!! , in the next days im gonna try to bring some new material about the "fuel" of the team and some really interestings butterflies effects in this story.

I do enjoy these kinds of posts, but in a really trivial way -- problem is I'd enjoy them BEFORE a tournament where you might have brought it up before the World Cup, and every Argentina win (and eventual titles) could carry bets based entirely on the Time Traveller strategy Wink

Nevertheless, this post is worth more than 90% of gambling posts on this forum. Would merit if I actually had any.

I post some similiar in the local board, but i not post before because i fear this its not gonna happen , so i keep the secret.

Well, this is a kind of thread one does not see around here everyday.
Thanks for taking the time to share. I guess it would have been also very productive to share it before the finals of the world cup.
Most people who bet on football teams are not aware of the amount of history, coincidences and superstition behind them.

I hope the celebrations there in your country are not too loud, so you can sleep.  Smiley



 

Thanks man, see you in local board Wink , and yes a lot of times we dont know about some historical clues in events.


That 7th point of the second post of you man in this thread,that is the most brilliant of all points,Argentina had won their 1986 cup after having been in the final in 1978 and now Argentina won the 2022 world cup after having been in the final in 2014 and they were near winning it there too but luck which is the most determining factor in such events was not with Argentina.

I think that they also lost in 1990,the first final I saw as a 6 year old kid with Maradona losing to a Klinsman penalty against Germany and I cried a lot at that time because even me being not in South America at that time,everybody was talking about Maradona so I was already a fan of Argentina.It is sad how Maradona could not live to see this title but that is life.

All the points have some magic, for me the best can be the PSG related (point 4) and the qatar one (8 point)

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December 24, 2022, 01:18:24 AM
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ABOUT THE COINCIDENCES I BROUGHT IN MY LAST POST.

An advertising campaign for the most important brewery in Argentina is based on the same thing.

This was the main advertising of this beer before starting the world cup.

I share the link of the advertising what its translated so you can enjoy its a good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsPC_c60M14&ab_channel=RominaLipinski

In this advertising take part Franco Armani one of the players of the team, the second goalkeeper in this WC and first in Rusia 2018.

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December 24, 2022, 02:31:43 AM
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I do enjoy these kinds of posts, but in a really trivial way -- problem is I'd enjoy them BEFORE a tournament where you might have brought it up before the World Cup, and every Argentina win (and eventual titles) could carry bets based entirely on the Time Traveller strategy Wink
Yes, it would have been great to know all those coincidences before the World Cup happened. There were so many hidden signals indicating Argentina was the chosen one for the victory. It all mean the perfect alignment of the stars to give Messi the title he was waiting since the beginning of his career. By reading all those points I guess the result couldn't be different.

If someone points out decent coincidences like this for a next tournament, I'm going to place some bets based on it. At least, it seems more accurate than the traditional analyzes that lead many gamblers to losses this World Cup.

How this is related to gambling discussion?

So where should the topic be?
It's a football related topic that's talking about a football manger. If this kind of topic is not in gambling discussion then where should it be? He's clearly talking about the coincidences with what happened this year and what happened other years that Argentina won the world cup which is definitely a gambling discussion topic.
Maybe Off-Topics?

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December 24, 2022, 02:45:44 AM
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How this is related to gambling discussion?

It’s related to Football, and winning and losing, so definitely this belongs here. Moreover OP, I like the fact that you have gathered so many information and sharing us here. According to me time travel is complete impossible , the photo that is spreading here and there are just publicity stunt by media to gain more TRPs on their respective channels. Argentina won this world cup only due to pure skills and dedication. Don’t forget the goal keeper who saved the penalties and made Argentina win, according to me he was the real MVP of that game along With Messi.

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You are really having a lot of fun now that Argentina won the world cup, but I cannot blame you, even a team like Argentina which is full of talent took 36 years to become a champion again while being led by one of the best players in history, so it makes sense that you are so happy about it, and about the picture the resemblance is uncanny, that guy, whoever he is, does in fact look like the twin brother of Scaloni, I wonder if we will ever know who he really is?
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How this is related to gambling discussion?

It’s related to Football, and winning and losing, so definitely this belongs here. Moreover OP, I like the fact that you have gathered so many information and sharing us here. According to me time travel is complete impossible , the photo that is spreading here and there are just publicity stunt by media to gain more TRPs on their respective channels. Argentina won this world cup only due to pure skills and dedication. Don’t forget the goal keeper who saved the penalties and made Argentina win, according to me he was the real MVP of that game along With Messi.

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You are really having a lot of fun now that Argentina won the world cup, but I cannot blame you, even a team like Argentina which is full of talent took 36 years to become a champion again while being led by one of the best players in history, so it makes sense that you are so happy about it, and about the picture the resemblance is uncanny, that guy, whoever he is, does in fact look like the twin brother of Scaloni, I wonder if we will ever know who he really is?

Obviously man its impossible to time travel. But not was so used by the media was the people on Twitter what generate the myth.

And yes we know who is this guy in the photo, and is a very sad history behind him.

He is Hugo "tomate" Pena a well know player who played in River and San Lorenzo here, he dies at the 29 years ( in 1981 ) for a electric discharge when he was seeing television with his daughter.

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Scaloni is a real legend, he will go down in history as a King in Argentina. What he’s done makes him immortal, he was brought in to begin with & people didn’t expect great things. He has exceeded all expectations & won the Copa America & now World Cup. Statistically speaking he could be viewed as one of, if not, the best Argentina coach ever. I tip my hat to his excellence.

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