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January 02, 2023, 12:18:52 PM
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I haven't seen the fight nor did I do a review on the full replay yet. But I did read and heard from a lot of people on social media that Franco deserved the win. Today I reviewed the punch stats and I am surprised that Ioka seems to have edged Franco. Based on the unbiased per-round punch stats, I have it 115-113 or 7 to 5 in favor of Ioka. Although there are times that jabs can be as good or even better than power punches, I just considered that generally, power punches weigh more than jabs. So I gave Franco rounds 4, 6, 7, 11, and 12 for a total of 5 rounds only. I agree that a rematch should happen or if not, let them face the other champions and stars in their division like Chocolatito, Estrada, and Bam.


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January 02, 2023, 12:31:08 PM
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I haven't seen the fight nor did I do a review on the full replay yet. But I did read and heard from a lot of people on social media that Franco deserved the win. Today I reviewed the punch stats and I am surprised that Ioka seems to have edged Franco. Based on the unbiased per-round punch stats, I have it 115-113 or 7 to 5 in favor of Ioka. Although there are times that jabs can be as good or even better than power punches, I just considered that generally, power punches weigh more than jabs. So I gave Franco rounds 4, 6, 7, 11, and 12 for a total of 5 rounds only. I agree that a rematch should happen or if not, let them face the other champions and stars in their division like Chocolatito, Estrada, and Bam.



I just watched the replay and I must say that Ioka scored good points, but Franco just got around the ring better and delivered some power punches, and some that might be seen as a power punch from some perspectives but those didn't land. I guess the public's emotion is high and really tensioned which caused the opinion that the judging is biased for Ioka (although there have been a lot of professional opinion about this for a while now too).

Stats don't lie, and if Ioka delivered more jabs and punches that connected compared to Franco, then the Japanese deserves the win. I guess this could have been handled better by the judges and the organizers. Then again, if they responded to the accusations, they will just fan the flame even more.

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January 02, 2023, 01:07:19 PM
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Stats don't lie, and if Ioka delivered more jabs and punches that connected compared to Franco, then the Japanese deserves the win. I guess this could have been handled better by the judges and the organizers. Then again, if they responded to the accusations, they will just fan the flame even more.

Fans do remember the later rounds, I guess Franco did better in the later rounds. Enough for this accusation, it will take nowhere, instead, they should start negotiating for a rematch, that way they'll be able to satisfy the fans and eliminate their doubts about the transparency of the result. Also, that stats alone cannot be a big basis on how the judges should score the fight, they have their criteria, so it's their decision that will be followed.

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January 02, 2023, 02:32:07 PM
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Fans do remember the later rounds, I guess Franco did better in the later rounds. Enough for this accusation, it will take nowhere, instead, they should start negotiating for a rematch, that way they'll be able to satisfy the fans and eliminate their doubts about the transparency of the result. Also, that stats alone cannot be a big basis on how the judges should score the fight, they have their criteria, so it's their decision that will be followed.
I think matches that ended in draw, mostly there's will be a rematch to prove which one is better. But in the first fight, Joshua should win to be honest, even though a rematch would happen, still Joshua's side isn't get any advantage and it would be possible if Ioka will win the rematch. So, all thing that Joshua already put in the first match was useless. I just hope if Joshua can win via knock out, so there's no excuse and biased scorecard from the judges.

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January 02, 2023, 03:54:59 PM
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Fans do remember the later rounds, I guess Franco did better in the later rounds. Enough for this accusation, it will take nowhere, instead, they should start negotiating for a rematch, that way they'll be able to satisfy the fans and eliminate their doubts about the transparency of the result. Also, that stats alone cannot be a big basis on how the judges should score the fight, they have their criteria, so it's their decision that will be followed.

It should be settled for another fight because this one is close and I'm sure that they will gonna work hard to prove to everyone who really wins the first fight. Just other fights from the past, most likely they settled it after the 2nd time they fought in the ring. This sometimes happens in boxing especially when the two boxers took their opponent's punches lightly.

But they deserve to fight once more this year or else their rivalry will extend until they are no longer in their primes.

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January 02, 2023, 04:59:46 PM
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Stats don't lie, and if Ioka delivered more jabs and punches that connected compared to Franco, then the Japanese deserves the win. I guess this could have been handled better by the judges and the organizers. Then again, if they responded to the accusations, they will just fan the flame even more.

Fans do remember the later rounds, I guess Franco did better in the later rounds. Enough for this accusation, it will take nowhere, instead, they should start negotiating for a rematch, that way they'll be able to satisfy the fans and eliminate their doubts about the transparency of the result. Also, that stats alone cannot be a big basis on how the judges should score the fight, they have their criteria, so it's their decision that will be followed.

I think Joshua is very clear about it, he is thinking about unification, it is his only objective, everything was not very clear to some, a better verdict can be expected and especially from the fans themselves, in my case Joshua has a lot to prove and that is what it will do, I think that it has already begun to move all its chips, and it will create more of the things that can give it more respect and above all recognition, the suspicions regarding them are many, I have a personal opinion and here in The forum also gives opinions, but I think that they all pursue the same objective, the great revenge that is undoubtedly what will give the spicy touch that we are looking for.

Ioka-Franco Aftermath: Franco Aims For Estrada Unification, While WBO Expected To Order Ioka-Nakatani



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Joshua Franco still has the same target in mind for his next fight even with one less belt at stake.

A title unification with lineal/WBC junior bantamweight champion Juan Francisco Estrada is still the priority for San Antonio’s Franco. The goal has not changed even after the reigning WBA titlist was forced to settle for a twelve-round, majority draw versus WBO champ Kazuto Ioka in their New Year’s Eve clash in Tokyo, Japan.

Judge Stanley Christodoulou (115-113) had Franco winning the year-ending unification clash but was overruled by ringside officials Ferlin Marsh (114-114) and Jose Roberto Torres (114-114) who both scored it dead even. The hope was for a two-belt titlist to emerge from the contest and next face Mexico’s Estrada (44-3, 28KOs), who was ringside for the event and equally keen on further unifying the division

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/ioka-franco-aftermath-franco-aims-estrada-unification-wbo-expected-order-ioka-nakatani--171544

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