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December 25, 2022, 07:44:44 PM
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We cannot force them to do what they want because there is a reason why they do not want to accept our advice to them. Others is also right that another reason is the lack of financial and also knowledge about the things we want to suggest to them. I'm not a rich person , but I want to change my lifestyle, so I study the investments that everyone's suggest to me , and for me I'll check if there's a good return in case I'm enticed.

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December 25, 2022, 07:52:54 PM
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No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to.


How can you blame someone who barely eat 2 times meal in a day or once without proper dieting when he is skeptical to invest in bitcoin. The less rich (I don't want to say poor) will find it difficult to invest and tie up money that was suppose to be used for other home front issues like especially feeding. Some homes barely feed daily so you don't expect such homes to have left out money to put in "cage" to mature. In fact such homes will easily be convinced to go into agriculture because they understand that terrain very well and not bitcoin.


They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.


Yes because they wish it was something they can do. Usually poor people are not risk takers. They only concern about the immediate needs but the rich plan for tomorrow or future and coupled with having loose money to invest. This is the reason for the rich to keep being rich.

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December 25, 2022, 07:56:17 PM
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Why say in general poor people and investing? As much as I want people to invest in bitcoin, I try to understand first their situation. Maybe they're just living paycheck to paycheck and can't get out of the rat race. They want to invest too but it is that they're on an unfortunate situation and they can't allocate money for investing. Instead of investing, they'll just spend it for their daily expenses for food and every other important needs they need to cater.

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December 25, 2022, 08:11:27 PM
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This is quite inconsiderate; you cannot judge others by their financial situation; it's impossible to know what someone has gone through. You can't promote Bitcoin as a panacea; you're implying that Bitcoin will magically transform someone from poor to rich. Someone who's barely making ends meet isn't even able to save for an emergency, let alone invest. On top of that, not everyone is familiar with the technology behind cryptocurrencies; thus, they're not comfortable purchasing something that they're not knowledgeable about and doesn't even guarantee them profit.

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December 25, 2022, 08:36:33 PM
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You can’t always expect everyone to think and reason the same as you do. People have different opinions and cause of that, we may never see eye to eye on certain things and how we manage to get past our differences is what makes us better individuals.
Just cause an individual is financially poor, it doesn’t mean he also has poor reasoning. We should not conclude in a hurry and not judge an individuals reasoning capabilities with his financial muscle. You probably would have heard of the saying “you do not judge a book by its cover”.

I would assume you think yourself to have a higher reasoning capability than the so called poor people. You should have known that aside their financial situation which admittedly has a great impact on their thoughts and actions, there are other various reasons that would make them behave and act the way they do.
I know lots of wealthy people that according to your thesis, should have the maximum reasoning capability, wouldn’t want to hear a word about bitcoin cause they believe it to be a sham. You and I know it isn’t a sham so in this case, the wealthy folks have got poor reasoning capabilities.

Avoid stereotyping and have an open mind. Never look down or think ill on anyone cause of their financial status.
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December 25, 2022, 08:44:56 PM
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No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

Poor people comes out of lots of reason to not disgrace themselves of having no money to invest.  You can put yourself on their shoes, saying you just have enough fund for your daily needs, and have to look for the money to pay your bills.  Do you think you can have the luxury to invest to a venture?  Poor people would rather put their money to the table and fill their belly than risk it to an unknown venture to them. 

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

Remember, before anything else, they need to have more than enough fund to sustain their living and pay their bills.  When that condition is fulfilled, you can see a different version of them.  Talking is easy but making them to have enough fund is harder.  If you wanted to help them give them the opportunity to earn more funds for their expenses not by investment but by giving them job, a steady source of income that can sustain their living.  If they have more than enough funds, then that is the time you can talk about investments.
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December 25, 2022, 09:17:49 PM
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It is a classic but nevertheless true: your thinking and beliefs about money greatly influence the decisions you will take in your life and the risks that you will be willing to assume. This will in turn influence your financial situation and eventually will also reinforce those beliefs. That many times passes from generation to generation and it creates a social immobility.

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December 25, 2022, 09:46:40 PM
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More precisely, why is it difficult for poor people to accept the knowledge you provide because according to my assumption they do not have sufficient understanding of how money can be made by investing, in my opinion, this depends on how understanding the world of finance is, not a few poor people can get rich (didn't you witness it ?) which means that not all poor people are the same. Understanding money is not easy because it takes time, thought, experience and courage to take risks. it also depends on job level and salary. there was no time for the poorest person to do such a thing as his one month's wages only filled half of it let alone having a child, there was no reason for him to fail in sacrificing time and money. This sounds logical for a married person.
However, if you want to continue to motivate people about the financial world, the people you suggest should be young people who are still free in their lives, I think they will respond better than poor people who have families.
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December 25, 2022, 10:15:12 PM
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That's quite inconsiderate. Can you imagine many people don't have the luxury to invest because at the end of the month they only have debts left?

In some countries like Nigeria where most salary earned by citizen is below $100, it is highly difficult to invest just as he said. Therefore investing for such people may be difficult as their salary isn't even enough for their spending not to talk of saving.

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Also so people are rich but don't really believe in investing. They rather believe to work for people than working on their own.

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December 25, 2022, 10:43:07 PM
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No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

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listen to friends who are as hopeless as them, they think more than a university professor and do less than a blind man.
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.
I've been poor with the past years of my life and I know how it feels to be there. I'm not saying that I'm rich but I've got a better life at least for now and quite far from being poor. It's a tough situation and very thoughtless to say that they're not thinking about to invest.
How much is their daily wage and how much it will go to their expenses and bills? Yes, we're motivating them but this is a tough way, I don't think this is tough love but weighing things and what we'll say should really be considered.

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December 25, 2022, 10:48:34 PM
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Poor people are poor for a reason and it's usually for their own fault: for not having initiative to work a little more, for declining doing more effort, for rejecting learning something new, added to the fact they can't control expenses properly and are constantly spending all the money they have on the current moment. Poor people are the biggest spenders and the ones who the least enjoy the money they spend, because they do it almost automatically, without measuring the consequences and how the spending could be more advantageous for them.

Poor people need to change their mindset in order to leave the precarious life they are inserted in. It's totally possible and they surely can, but they have to be strong and show genuine desire to change it at first place! It's an inner battle against themselves everyone has to face sometimes, for different reasons.

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December 25, 2022, 11:13:45 PM
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The #1 rule of investing is "never invest what you can not afford to lose", and poor people can't lose anything, because losing your last money is devastating, it means going into debt, not being able to cover basing necessities, etc.

All those stories about someone getting out of poverty by investing $100 or $400 are not the norm, they are the exception, and for every such story there a hundreds of stories about someone who invested $100 into a high risk scheme or scam and lost it.

Bitcoin is also not a get rich quick scheme anymore. The days of x50 bull markets are over, and doubling or tippling the price is not good enough to go from poor to rich.

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December 25, 2022, 11:33:59 PM
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Used to be my line of thinking before I took the leap of faith and tried investing for my own business. It's really hard to come out of that mindset especially if you were only focused on survival for most of the time. The difference between poor people and those in the middle class is that the former will never have other options but to survive and be practical, whereas the latter will at least have an option to use their money somewhere and can be lavish every once in a while, or use their money in investments without really hurting much of their finances.

While bitcoin may provide people something that they can count on as an investment, it's not a hundred percent certainty that it will always give you positive returns. Better make sure that your investments are for the long term in order to not get hurt by the volatility of your "investment."

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December 25, 2022, 11:54:44 PM
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It is a classic but nevertheless true: your thinking and beliefs about money greatly influence the decisions you will take in your life and the risks that you will be willing to assume. This will in turn influence your financial situation and eventually will also reinforce those beliefs. That many times passes from generation to generation and it creates a social immobility.

But can belief matter much in having money? You can have the belief but you need to work today out so the channel for wealth is created. Belief that is not supporting to decision and dream is not a perfect belief, it will not grow the finance of the individual because things won't falling proper. If you have a belief system that is not in line with your dreams then it won't be perfect for financial growth.
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December 26, 2022, 04:56:24 AM
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their main reason must be because they are “lazy”. a poor person who always works as hard as possible and never gives up is a person who is never lazy.

if we told them about running a new business there would definitely be 2 responses.

 1. they will reject it for various reasons, such as unexpert or lack of experience. if we tell them about running a new business, they will think twice. That is, a business must need a lot of capital, and they will see where the capital is coming from, and keep thinking but if they don't do anything it will be useless. thinking about effort and success, but he himself is not trying.

2. there are those who are happy to accept the advice that we pass on to them, and they will try their best to be in that field of business. that's my opinion.

 but once again this is advice from me, for me and for you.

 never look down on the poor. sometimes there are people who are poor, but they live with gratitude and happiness.

sometimes we also need to learn from them. that, the poor will not always be poor and the rich will not always be rich
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December 26, 2022, 05:54:00 AM
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No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

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The worst people to serve are the Poor people. Give them free, they think it's a trap. Tell them it's a small investment, they'll say can't earn much. Tell them to come in big, they'll say no money. Tell them try new things, they'll say no experience. Tell them it's traditional business, they'll say hard to do. Tell them it's a new business model, they'll say it's MLM. Tell them to run a shop, they'll say no freedom. Tell them run new business, they'll say no expertise.

They do have some things in common:

listen to friends who are as hopeless as them, they think more than a university professor and do less than a blind man.
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

I Don't think the breakdown between poor and rich is correct here! It's all about the risk taking appetite of a human being. For example, Mr. Warren Buffet is extremely against the whole idea of cryptocurrency. He denied to invest in cryptos. He isn't poor. It's just that he is unwilling to take risk into crypto market. That's what the issue is!

I know people who have become poorer after investing in cryptos because they took loan for investment and didn't make any profit. That's what is is! Nothing to do with rich and poor.

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December 26, 2022, 06:28:37 AM
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I Don't think the breakdown between poor and rich is correct here! It's all about the risk taking appetite of a human being. For example, Mr. Warren Buffet is extremely against the whole idea of cryptocurrency. He denied to invest in cryptos. He isn't poor. It's just that he is unwilling to take risk into crypto market. That's what the issue is!

I know people who have become poorer after investing in cryptos because they took loan for investment and didn't make any profit. That's what is is! Nothing to do with rich and poor.
I have meet some honest people who are really honest. They can share their bread and can earn a happy living.
While on the other hand I have seen people who are rich and scammer because they have no way to earn money but to loot others and to get the money from other people. They are the worse of all the creatures.

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December 26, 2022, 06:34:11 AM
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You called them poor and you still criticize them for not investing? I don't know what the word "poor" means in your own perspective but going by general definition of poor, you can not expect such people who hardly feed and shelter for themselves to take a risk in investment. You can not risk like them if you don't earn like them.

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December 26, 2022, 07:02:22 AM
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You called them poor and you still criticize them for not investing? I don't know what the word "poor" means in your own perspective but going by general definition of poor, you can not expect such people who hardly feed and shelter for themselves to take a risk in investment. You can not risk like them if you don't earn like them.
I know many poor people who know how to invest and make their living better by investing and saving.
In Fact some people - -  like me dont know how to invest and when they do - it is a mess.

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December 26, 2022, 07:03:47 AM
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Generally, poor people find it difficult to invest money on anything, they are too obsessed with how much they have presently, when you advice them to invest they will ask when they will reap what they sow and knowing that it's years down the road they will feel somehow.

It's true that this depends on human nature too because I started as a poor fellow before investing, I just get used to invest all along and it favors me, in the end, one has to be willing to lose it all before gaining a lot back and many poor people don't like this.

If we look deeply into this you will find out that poor people are raised in such a way, investment was never part of their game from father and grand fathers down the line, this is why I believe that been poor sometimes can be an error in the lineage thing. It

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