26 BTC Stolen

[rasengan]

I confirmed a screenshot with minerjones on telegram whose username was initially mtmantis and later changed to minerjones on telegram. However, now my 26BTC are gone and also their accounts on telegram are deleted.

The major issue I have here is that I received a screenshot of the BitcoinTalk message I had sent to minerjones which is how I had confirmed that it was the same user from here.

Currently it appears the position being taken is that the telegram account was a scam. This leads me to believe that either his account on BitcoinTalk or BitcoinTalk itself is compromised.

Either way it looks like I’m out 26BTC.  It’s upsetting, but I’m more worried about others on here who could be at risk. I feel like this amount of money can really negatively affect someone should a scam be pulled like this.

Anyway it’s unlikely to be resolved but I also wanted to note that whoever can find this guy and bring him to me can have the 26BTC or whatever else they have on them of equivalent or, if not, highest value if they don’t have the coins on them.  I don’t need the money at all just the culprit. Also, please do so without harming him and if you’re in a jurisdiction that requires licensing for bounty hunting please make sure you do so and consult your attorney before proceeding in all jurisdictions.  In the meantime I have a team working on subpoenaing and following the rabbit hole likely to a vpn, but if not I do know that there will be dire consequences for this gentleman’s actions.

I’ll be moving on as I already lost a half mil here definitely don’t want to waste valuable time!  Please message me about this if you have the culprit otherwise I hope BitcoinTalk can have a security analysis because being able to share private messages from a BitcoinTalk account is very scary.

Best,
Andrew

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[JanEmil]

If you sent from a wallet that can be shared maybe post the trxID. I personally can't help but got help myself (alot less) from user here that somehow could track the BTC to exchange where I had a friend that got the funds locked.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I confirmed a screenshot with minerjones on telegram whose username was initially mtmantis and later changed to minerjones on telegram. However, now my 26BTC are gone and also their accounts on telegram are deleted.

The major issue I have here is that I received a screenshot of the BitcoinTalk message I had sent to minerjones which is how I had confirmed that it was the same user from here.

Currently it appears the position being taken is that the telegram account was a scam. This leads me to believe that either his account on BitcoinTalk or BitcoinTalk itself is compromised.

Either way it looks like I’m out 26BTC.  It’s upsetting, but I’m more worried about others on here who could be at risk. I feel like this amount of money can really negatively affect someone should a scam be pulled like this.

Anyway it’s unlikely to be resolved but I also wanted to note that whoever can find this guy and bring him to me can have the 26BTC or whatever else they have on them of equivalent or, if not, highest value if they don’t have the coins on them.  I don’t need the money at all just the culprit. Also, please do so without harming him and if you’re in a jurisdiction that requires licensing for bounty hunting please make sure you do so and consult your attorney before proceeding in all jurisdictions.  In the meantime I have a team working on subpoenaing and following the rabbit hole likely to a vpn, but if not I do know that there will be dire consequences for this gentleman’s actions.

I’ll be moving on as I already lost a half mil here definitely don’t want to waste valuable time!  Please message me about this if you have the culprit otherwise I hope BitcoinTalk can have a security analysis because being able to share private messages from a BitcoinTalk account is very scary.

Best,
Andrew

minerjones telegram is "minerjones" the problem with telegram is that there can be many accounts where the display name is "minerjones" you have to look at the profile to see if it is actually the "@minerjones" username.

I am pretty much 110% sure that minerjones would not scam you.  I can also tell you that the legitimate "minerjones" account is still active and not deleted - having talked with him just this morning.

it could also be that the bitcointalk.org dm you sent to "minerjones" and received a screenshot of on telegram was not from the real minerjones.

[DirtyBirdE]

Wow that’s horrible. I’m sorry this happened to you and even more sorry that such a beautiful museum quality cas coin is gone to a scammer. Hate to say it but when you posted that these coins were going to be part of a 40btc deal I expected a post like this to be made soon after.

Do not make deals off of the forum unless you are 1000% sure you know who you’re dealing with.

[MoparMiningLLC]

also - maybe explain what happened - so I am trying to figure out how you lost 26btc - I know you were selling 2 coins on forums, 1btc  cas and a 25btc cas - you ended both threads stating that they were sold for 40btc in some deal.

You sold 2 coins to someone off the forums correct? if so, how does minerjones become part of it? was he in possession of your coins? Did he receive funds from the buyer? did he send the coins out?

[PreciousMetapsICT]

If packaged is still in route - you can do a package intercept with USPS. They will return the package to you for a small fee.

[Jambo USA]

I confirmed a screenshot with minerjones on telegram whose username was initially mtmantis and later changed to minerjones on telegram. However, now my 26BTC are gone and also their accounts on telegram are deleted.

The major issue I have here is that I received a screenshot of the BitcoinTalk message I had sent to minerjones which is how I had confirmed that it was the same user from here.

Currently it appears the position being taken is that the telegram account was a scam. This leads me to believe that either his account on BitcoinTalk or BitcoinTalk itself is compromised.

Either way it looks like I’m out 26BTC.  It’s upsetting, but I’m more worried about others on here who could be at risk. I feel like this amount of money can really negatively affect someone should a scam be pulled like this.

Anyway it’s unlikely to be resolved but I also wanted to note that whoever can find this guy and bring him to me can have the 26BTC or whatever else they have on them of equivalent or, if not, highest value if they don’t have the coins on them.  I don’t need the money at all just the culprit. Also, please do so without harming him and if you’re in a jurisdiction that requires licensing for bounty hunting please make sure you do so and consult your attorney before proceeding in all jurisdictions.  In the meantime I have a team working on subpoenaing and following the rabbit hole likely to a vpn, but if not I do know that there will be dire consequences for this gentleman’s actions.

I’ll be moving on as I already lost a half mil here definitely don’t want to waste valuable time!  Please message me about this if you have the culprit otherwise I hope BitcoinTalk can have a security analysis because being able to share private messages from a BitcoinTalk account is very scary.

Best,
Andrew

Any chance you'd post the screenshot of the DM you sent (that he sent to you) here? Or BTC addy/ TX ID? Also curious like the other user said how you went from selling something for 40btc to sending someone 26btc. Super interested in how this all happened, hope you keep us up to date!

Thanks,
Jambo

[rasengan]

Let me be clear - I don't think minerjones did it, however it's very possible that either his account or this entire forum are compromised.

I'm really lucky to not really care so much about the half mil value as I have been fortunate enough to have a lot of successful businesses operating, but I would like the person caught.

Also, to be clear, I confirmed the username as well as the screenshot validity.

Best,
Andrew

[Eclipse33]

Was the coin stolen or was the crypto used to pay for the coin stolen?

Clarify here.

A physical coin can be easily recovered, 26 liquid BTC to a scammer with a VPN not so much (Although still possible).

Either way you should have had a pro facilitating this transaction, this is such nonsense.

[minerjones]

This is the PM I received from them and replied:



1) I do not escrow on Telegram
2) I would never ask you to ship a coin of that value. Would be a required in person meeting
3) Was the payment address PGP signed?  Should have been... and can always verify here: https://keybase.io/minerjones
4) Can you provide the tracking number for the package? Where was it shipped?
5) My Telegram account always has been and is @minerjones  You should always verify the screen name versus the account name

Weird, and now I get am PM from your stating my Telegram account disappeared?
It's still there.. been chatting with people like MoparMining, Jan Emil, Kryptowerk today... they can all verify this




"I hope BitcoinTalk can have a security analysis because being able to share private messages from a BitcoinTalk account is very scary"

You got scammed on Telegram, not this forum....

[Kryptowerk]

This is the PM I received from them and replied:



1) I do not escrow on Telegram
2) I would never ask you to ship a coin of that value. Would be a required in person meeting
3) Was the payment address PGP signed?  Should have been... and can always verify here: https://keybase.io/minerjones
4) Can you provide the tracking number for the package? Where was it shipped?
5) My Telegram account always has been and is @minerjones  You should always verify the screen name versus the account name

Weird, and now I get am PM from your stating my Telegram account disappeared?
It's still there.. been chatting with people like MoparMining, Jan Emil, Kryptowerk today... they can all verify this

Can verify MJ is NOT compromised. The photos of some coins of mine he sent today via telegram from @minerjones are proof of that.

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Also, to be clear, I confirmed the username as well as the screenshot validity.

I don't think that's possible - do you have screenshots to show for the telegram communication? Like people mentioned before: It's easy to mix up "display name" and the telegram handle (@xyzusername). In this case I think there is no way @minerjones was in any way involved in the communication you had via Telegram.

In any case, sorry for your loss. Just happy to hear it does not seem to affect your life too much.

[minerjones]

Looks like both coins were redeemed within a few minutes of you posting this

https://chain.so/address/BTC/1GL4KQsBryksJCtzWCGqbgSxfowadf2jTT

https://chain.so/address/BTC/1CAepSnHbASSc8McPA8abDLXvwHGEUju9x

[QuakerBull]

Let me be clear - I don't think minerjones did it, however it's very possible that either his account or this entire forum are compromised.

I'm really lucky to not really care so much about the half mil value as I have been fortunate enough to have a lot of successful businesses operating, but I would like the person caught.

Also, to be clear, I confirmed the username as well as the screenshot validity.

Best,
Andrew

Well, that sounds a bit arrogant to say even if you are a billionaire, half mil$ is not an amount you can disparage. something here sounds fishy for some reason,

1. MJ responded to you on the 25th saying it's an imposter so why did you finalize the deal afterward?
2.  who the hell is shipping cas25 by mail? that's the most outrageous and irresponsible to do.
3. how come you can't intercept the package and retrieve the coins?

[NeuroticFish]

I am overly puzzled how can anybody do 26 BTC worth of trades and don't ask for a signed message as proof of identity....  
Sorry for your loss, OP  

[pinky1234]

This shit doesnt make sense. i  have deals with many scammers before . but this . idk everyones here.
i look at your previous post .



" Shipping: Someone will meet you in person for this transaction as long as you are local to the USA. "


HOw da fuck did you loose 26btc. not common . 

1 - send coin to a address . mailing coin.
2-  peeling you coin and giving him access.
3- your account now its hacked ... asking for bread.

[JanEmil]

It's still there.. been chatting with people like MoparMining, Jan Emil, Kryptowerk today... they can all verify this

I confirm. Like 30min ago about shipment to my friend.

Have been 6 years community admin on telegram. The place have so much scam. Not even the username can be fully trusted.
Each letter scammers can find one that like almost the same from other alphabet. Have seen so many get scammed there.

Hope you get hold of the scammer and heat him with a flamethrower.

[Suzuki Matt]

Something is not adding up here. I'm sorry to hear about the loss. But without all the information it's hard to help. Maybe you could post the info you have like the screen shots and whatnot. This community might be able to help but the evidence is needed.

[Agrawas]

Now that u have redeemed the coin, how much u selling the redeemed coins for?

[BTCOVERFIATS]

Did you ship the coins before receiving payment? Sorry for your loss but a transaction of that scale for me would have required an in person meeting

[bitbollo]

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 I received a screenshot of the BitcoinTalk message I had sent to minerjones which is how I had confirmed that it was the same user from here.
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did you have a screenshot of this conversation ? did you saved the image of PM received on telegram?
I think this is the most weird part also because:  
 

$50 000: If you can access any user's PMs arbitrarily, without any interaction from the user, and without any secret data such as user passwords.

Being able to access to PMs is one of the bounty https://bitcointalk.org/sbounties.php regarding forum security...
I don't want to doubt what you say, but actually you were clearly told (to your direct question) that you were interacting with a scammer/impersonator...