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December 30, 2022, 12:46:17 PM
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For example,  a company like Tesla, holds over billion dollars in Bitcoin and is known to have accepted Bitcoin payments in the past. It is one of the top choices amongst a host of others who use and accept crypto currency for payments and trade.
Tesla has no bitcoin again that is officially declared, all sold. Yes, not accepting bitcoin payment again, but bitcoin remain to be a valuable coin.

I have not seen such information that Tesla has sold all its bitcoins. According to the quarterly report https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/EIUQEC_2022_Q2_Quarterly_Update_Deck_J8VLIK.pdf 75% of previously purchased BTC were sold in the period from April to June 2022 in the amount of $936 million. Given this fact, it can be assumed that Tesla currently owns 10 thousand bitcoins worth approximately $165 million.

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December 30, 2022, 01:44:59 PM
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That is like the traditional investing of stocks where you are part owner of the company of that stocks but you are not really the owner of it.
But why? You can even hold and have crypto as you buy it so why choose to have nothing in your possession and you will let it be entrusted to a broker? I guess that's the right term for that platform you are asking for.

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December 30, 2022, 03:20:30 PM
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... Why though? You can perfectly buy crypto by yourself in exchanges and you guarantee yourself that you own it with a hardware wallet (or something similar in terms of security). I mean I guess it's possible but I probably wouldn't think of it like that if I were to ever do it. I guess some options are businesses, projects, or maybe NFT's?  Stocks of a company even can count I guess? I'm basically suggesting anything that can be substituted for something with value here. Some would probably take specific contracts or something though.

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December 30, 2022, 03:57:28 PM
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Either this is the right choice or even more complicated because it involves purchasing with a third party. Meanwhile, you can easily buy and send Bitcoin directly to your wallet without involving a specific product or company. Buying using P2P services is nothing but simple and easy and of course only you and the seller are involved, direct, exposed and of course not complicated through the stages that have to follow layered procedures.

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December 30, 2022, 04:19:43 PM
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Sounds like buying a warped product or stock. I am not aware to invest in crypto in such as way. It's like buying ETF and I am not well aware of this. I won't prefer though to buy or invest in such as way. We can control crypto it is our wallet where you can't control if you buy stock. You may buy a stock like Coinbase, it's not directly crypto but you are investing in a crypto exchange. I suggest buying direct coins and holding on your wallet.

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December 30, 2022, 04:53:13 PM
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I see no reason why I would go through this kind of stress when I can just buy Bitcoin or any other crypto through peer - to - peer.
The whole process mentioned in Op is just so complicated and also looks like something that's going to stress those involved in it.

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I have not seen such information that Tesla has sold all its bitcoins. According to the quarterly report https://tesla-cdn.thron.com/static/EIUQEC_2022_Q2_Quarterly_Update_Deck_J8VLIK.pdf 75% of previously purchased BTC were sold in the period from April to June 2022 in the amount of $936 million. Given this fact, it can be assumed that Tesla currently owns 10 thousand bitcoins worth approximately $165 million.
Thanks for the correction, I have forgotten that, all I remembered was that Tesla sold its bitcoin holding, but just reread the news now to see it was only 75% that was sold. If roughly 42000 BTC was bought, then we can assume that Tesla still has roughly 10500 BTC holding. I have edited that already.

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December 30, 2022, 08:23:07 PM
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If you don't want to buy crypto from any exchanges then only P2P is your best option but as you said above your other option is to mine the Crypto it's not hard to build a mining rig or if you don't want to build then you can buy ASIC units it is PlugNPlay and mine a coin.

Another option is that you can build your own website and sell services, digital goods, or any product you can offer then accept Crypto as their payment. Don't forget the signature campaign, you already wearing a signature it means you are earning coins or BTC that's another option.


Right. Accepting you salary in the form of bitcoin or any cryptocurrency will always be considered a crypto investment too, as you can easily keep them in your wallet while waiting for it’s value to surge high. If you can save some of it, then don’t bother to buy anymore at any centralized exchanges as there is still transaction fee added. Or you can just open your own business exchange if you have sufficient funds, and maximize your crypto hodlings.
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December 30, 2022, 11:45:47 PM
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Are there any other methods you know, that one can buy/invest in crypto from without using a regular exchange or trader?

^If you have a business then, yes.
You can accept BTC as a payment in your merchant in exchange for the product that you have sold, for example, a coffee shop or a grocery store that accepts BTC. Without investment, could be yes, but there is an exchange that considers investment as well.
As the link says, buying ETF seems like you are buying coins but not directly in crypto, but I don't understand this thing, is that ETF safe for saving your fund to the asset that you don't have full control of? Considering all fo this is a very high-risk decision.
There are a lot ways to invest in crypto without buying from exchanges. You can join signature campaigns and earn bitcoin, or you can work with crypto jobs available and still earn crypto, or you can even put up a business wherein you can accept bitcoin as a payment. All your goods and services can be paid through btc, that way that you can earn a lot of bitcoin and serves as your main investments in crypto.

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December 31, 2022, 09:48:33 AM
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But if I would ask you why do you want to go through that rough methods to acquire crypto related stocks instead buying directly?
Do you know is very risky involving yourself to such investment and what could be your aim of doing that after knowing the real deal with bitcoin itself. When it comes of investment it doesn't implies any difficulty rather you talking precautions on the kinds of investment you venture into, for instance, you can have direct access to buy bitcoin from any exchange or p2p and moved it directly to a safe and secure wallet which you think is more reliable and accessible to you than any exchanges or any other means which you ever think of. From the current trends and happening also note that any platform you don't have control over your funds doesn't really belong to you.
There are some people who are used to doing unorthodox methods to make money because they think that in this world you need to think outside of the box to make money. In reality just investing 10% of your salary into bitcoin and keep doing that every time you get a paycheck, then when you have 20% of the money ready, go buy a house and pay 20% downpayment and 80% of it would be loans, and keep doing the same thing, save 10% of your salary and put it on bitcoin, and pay the loan back with the rent, and if its anything more than you could cut down on your expenses.

When you are ready get another house with 20% down payment if bitcoin is up, and then 80% loan, if you want you can refinance both and get a third one as well. This would put a lot of debt on you, but you would have 3 houses to rent out so that should help you a lot. If you can push through like this in life, by 50-60 years old, you should be a big landlord.

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December 31, 2022, 03:41:37 PM
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It must be a passive approach in my view.

A passive approach it is indeed, because am certain one wouldn't have to go through the stress of regular payments if the investment is broken down into percentages within a time frame. Also, for persons who have very busy schedules and have this idea as a sure way to retirement without the knowledge of those close and around (family and friends), using a trusted broker with the right knowledge about crypto investment is a good idea.

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