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January 16, 2023, 08:23:52 AM
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It's not moving because that's how it works. Trading signals are not reliable, even if you paid to join those trading signal groups. Learn to trade by yourself, it's more better in the long run, rather than putting your luck on someone else that might be a not real pro trader but just pretending to be one to earn money from your subscriptions.
While people prefer paying for signals for trading, from my perspective i think they objectives towards doing that is directly relying on someone. While it's very obvious that a signal group platform so many of them is not guaranteed or assured that their information is vital. So from my perspective or understanding, it's better for someone to develop it own method of understanding trading.
Yes, it's better that way, although developing a trading understanding method certainly takes a lot of time,
but I think that's the price we have to pay and the result makes us comfortable in trading using our own method,
it all depends on each person because they also have their own way.
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January 16, 2023, 03:09:47 PM
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Most indicators work well, especially the lagging ones, in trending markets (either rallying up or down) and not when the market is ranging and choppy. A lot of indicators get confused whenever that happens, even traders do get lost too during such time. We find it difficult whenever the market becomes erratic and such a situation is evident during ranging market. At a time like that, it's best to stick to line indicators of pivots and S&R. So, OP you don't have to get frustrated. This too will soon pass and the signals will return with their near accurate predictions once the bear or bull returns..

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January 16, 2023, 06:31:31 PM
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when the market is still in bearish mode there will be no signals that work well, there will be no valid ones because market sentiment cannot be predicted. But when the market is in a bullish mode, many signals will start to appear because the bull market makes several signals work well.
During an extreme bull market, the signals provide resistance areas at a specific point, but the market keeps breaking them and vice versa during bear market. So you can't exactly say that signals work well during bull mode and not in bearish times. Actually they dont work out any of the times. However I'd say they work during a sideways market since here traders sell at resistance and buy at support a lot of times before they loose everything during sudden breakouts in either direction 😁
I take every signal with a grain of salt.
The effectiveness of trading signals can vary depending on market conditions. In a bear market, it can be more challenging for analysts to provide accurate predictions as market sentiment is generally more negative and uncertain. However, during a bull market, signals may be more likely to work well as the market is generally more positive and trending upward.

As per the known fact that signals may not work well during extreme market conditions, such as during a bubble or a crash, as the market can be highly volatile and unpredictable. Sideways market is a good point, as the market is more stable and the signals can be relatively accurate.

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January 16, 2023, 08:58:52 PM
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when the market is still in bearish mode there will be no signals that work well, there will be no valid ones because market sentiment cannot be predicted. But when the market is in a bullish mode, many signals will start to appear because the bull market makes several signals work well.
During an extreme bull market, the signals provide resistance areas at a specific point, but the market keeps breaking them and vice versa during bear market. So you can't exactly say that signals work well during bull mode and not in bearish times. Actually they dont work out any of the times. However I'd say they work during a sideways market since here traders sell at resistance and buy at support a lot of times before they loose everything during sudden breakouts in either direction 😁
I take every signal with a grain of salt.
The effectiveness of trading signals can vary depending on market conditions. In a bear market, it can be more challenging for analysts to provide accurate predictions as market sentiment is generally more negative and uncertain. However, during a bull market, signals may be more likely to work well as the market is generally more positive and trending upward.

As per the known fact that signals may not work well during extreme market conditions, such as during a bubble or a crash, as the market can be highly volatile and unpredictable. Sideways market is a good point, as the market is more stable and the signals can be relatively accurate.
When can say its effective if it goes along with the market trend or market condition on which we could really make it count to be a good and working kind of strategy but we know that this market does have lots of variations when it comes to its behavior and there's no such pattern is able to be created and this is what makes it pain in the ass when it comes on making technical analysis on which its always not been easy.
Signals arent really that bad to look at for some people who do made them out but eventually you could make one too which it would really be just that the same because everything that is been
thrown out would be neither be working or not and that would be based up on market condition.
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January 16, 2023, 11:20:10 PM
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This always happen since as saying says no accurate prediction comes at all and signals doesn't guarantee to work for long term or it accurately says anything. So maybe as the market moves always in multiple direction maybe its time to change your strategy so that you can cope up the current market changes and adopt new trading strategy to gain possible profits with this.

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January 17, 2023, 04:42:44 AM
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The effectiveness of trading signals can vary depending on market conditions. In a bear market, it can be more challenging for analysts to provide accurate predictions as market sentiment is generally more negative and uncertain. However, during a bull market, signals may be more likely to work well as the market is generally more positive and trending upward.

As per the known fact that signals may not work well during extreme market conditions, such as during a bubble or a crash, as the market can be highly volatile and unpredictable. Sideways market is a good point, as the market is more stable and the signals can be relatively accurate.
You are right, however it is interesting that signals do not work when the conditions of the market present extreme volatility, which is precisely the moment when more profits can be made in a short amount of time and when those following those signals need them the most.

And in that case why bother to use signals at all? As whatever accuracy they may have during a ranging market does not compensate not taking advantage of the massive movements we can observe in a matter of days, weeks or months during a bull or a bear market.
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January 17, 2023, 07:00:01 AM
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I have said many times earlier also that these signal groups are mere trick to scam innocent investors and those who don't have any knowledge of the market but in end they are fools who believe in what they say.It has never been good option for me and trading on your own is best because they will pump the shitcoins and tell you to buy and when you do the results will be loss only and what they offer afterwards? You were late in selling and other bullshit talks so best is to avoid them as much you can.

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January 17, 2023, 08:55:59 AM
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I have said many times earlier also that these signal groups are mere trick to scam innocent investors and those who don't have any knowledge of the market but in end they are fools who believe in what they say.It has never been good option for me and trading on your own is best because they will pump the shitcoins and tell you to buy and when you do the results will be loss only and what they offer afterwards? You were late in selling and other bullshit talks so best is to avoid them as much you can.

It was really funny that some of the owners of these signal groups claiming that they have high winning strategies that are a sure win per trade but if it is true then why they  are still managing telegram group. I am just sad on those people who got victim on this but at the same time others newbie wants this because they think it is easy life and not learning trading. Ive also encountered someone that said to me that I give him signal whenever I do a trade so that he can profit too, lol those kind of people are just very lazy
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January 17, 2023, 09:00:44 AM
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I have said many times earlier also that these signal groups are mere trick to scam innocent investors and those who don't have any knowledge of the market but in end they are fools who believe in what they say.It has never been good option for me and trading on your own is best because they will pump the shitcoins and tell you to buy and when you do the results will be loss only and what they offer afterwards? You were late in selling and other bullshit talks so best is to avoid them as much you can.
Yes in the end they will try to cheat you so never trust signal groups,
it's better to trade in your own way because even if you lose we can learn,
As a trader or investor it is very important to have knowledge and skills that we can get by learning.
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January 17, 2023, 10:34:59 AM
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I have said many times earlier also that these signal groups are mere trick to scam innocent investors and those who don't have any knowledge of the market but in end they are fools who believe in what they say.It has never been good option for me and trading on your own is best because they will pump the shitcoins and tell you to buy and when you do the results will be loss only and what they offer afterwards? You were late in selling and other bullshit talks so best is to avoid them as much you can.
Indeed they're not reliable. These signals are existing to fool the investors/traders who are looking for info on what coins are good to buy and likely to pump hard. They will shill a certain coin and encourage the members to buy and will dump it after. A classic strategy to take advantage the people who don't have knowledge about it and also lazy to do their own research. So it would be best for us to exert an effort and learn to trade by gaining knowledge and not by relying on these signals.

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January 17, 2023, 11:40:40 AM
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Whenever you are depending on signal, this is what it always turn out to be because you don't have a self skill to study the signal yourself rather depending on any other source to trade. There is something you have to understand about using a signal to trade, if their signals fails then you lose your money and you don't know how trusted they seems to be by giving you a signal. So learn to use signal instead that of another fellew.
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January 17, 2023, 07:05:53 PM
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You need to put in some level of effort in building your trading skills and be less dependent on third-party signal providers unless you want to keep losing your trades.

Between signals have never worked anyway, soyouu should get used to that and avoid altcoin trading if you must rely on trading signals.

 
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When can say its effective if it goes along with the market trend or market condition on which we could really make it count to be a good and working kind of strategy but we know that this market does have lots of variations when it comes to its behavior and there's no such pattern is able to be created and this is what makes it pain in the ass when it comes on making technical analysis on which its always not been easy.
Signals arent really that bad to look at for some people who do made them out but eventually you could make one too which it would really be just that the same because everything that is been
thrown out would be neither be working or not and that would be based up on market condition.

It worked at the beginning, but not for the next. The signal is only a prediction which is not necessarily the same because it is only a reference.
Technical analysis will work perfectly if combined with fundamental analysis, the two will be in sync, and doing risk management and financial management will help trade more perfectly. Don't really trust signals, because there are lots of fake signals that only benefit the signal maker. rather than relying on unclear signals, it is better to develop a trading strategy and learn every basic science that is mandatory.
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January 17, 2023, 07:49:52 PM
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You need to put in some level of effort in building your trading skills and be less dependent on third-party signal providers unless you want to keep losing your trades.

Between signals have never worked anyway, soyouu should get used to that and avoid altcoin trading if you must rely on trading signals.

If you can build trading knowledge, it is easy to check whether the signals will work or not and you can avoid taking wrong trades. But when a trader tries to trade using third party signals without any trading knowledge, they will face losses. So relying on other's signals for trading is not the right decision. Many traders make huge profits from altcoin trading, so altcoin trading is not always bad if you have a good knowledge of crypto trading.

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January 17, 2023, 08:23:59 PM
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Any good signals ?
Right now many signals don't work how they use to be
Yesrterday shiba signal long was given out from the trading signals channels still not moving
Do you even believe in trading signals before? I don't believe in signals because I believe those giving signals are just after their pocket, they will ask you to pay before they add you to their group, and after paying and you have being added to the group, they will just end up giving wrong signal, the signal providers don't really have anything to lose, they are just providing the signal but they won't also follow it.

If you want to stay long in Cryptocurrency and you want to make money, don't depend on anyone for signal, learn to do your analysis yourself.

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January 17, 2023, 08:29:31 PM
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Any good signals ?
Right now many signals don't work how they use to be
Yesrterday shiba signal long was given out from the trading signals channels still not moving
Do you even believe in trading signals before? I don't believe in signals because I believe those giving signals are just after their pocket, they will ask you to pay before they add you to their group, and after paying and you have being added to the group, they will just end up giving wrong signal, the signal providers don't really have anything to lose, they are just providing the signal but they won't also follow it.

If you want to stay long in Cryptocurrency and you want to make money, don't depend on anyone for signal, learn to do your analysis yourself.

That is what I am thinking, even before, I don't believe on these trading signal groups.
I tried joining free trading signal groups before just to see what they work.
But unfortunately, what I observed was that they gave a heads-up bit late, so it was not a heads-up anymore.
Hence, leaving the others to buy at the peak of the price, and they can't sell it afterwards because the price has gone down significantly already.
So I don't think something change with signal groups even the paid ones, much better if you will orient yourself with actual trading.
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January 17, 2023, 08:39:57 PM
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Any good signals ?
Right now many signals don't work how they use to be
Yesrterday shiba signal long was given out from the trading signals channels still not moving
Do you even believe in trading signals before? I don't believe in signals because I believe those giving signals are just after their pocket, they will ask you to pay before they add you to their group, and after paying and you have being added to the group, they will just end up giving wrong signal, the signal providers don't really have anything to lose, they are just providing the signal but they won't also follow it.

If you want to stay long in Cryptocurrency and you want to make money, don't depend on anyone for signal, learn to do your analysis yourself.

That is what I am thinking, even before, I don't believe on these trading signal groups.
I tried joining free trading signal groups before just to see what they work.
But unfortunately, what I observed was that they gave a heads-up bit late, so it was not a heads-up anymore.
Hence, leaving the others to buy at the peak of the price, and they can't sell it afterwards because the price has gone down significantly already.
So I don't think something change with signal groups even the paid ones, much better if you will orient yourself with actual trading.
Joining free groups arent really that bad if you do really tend to snip out some trading ideas and some hints but wont really be that enough for you on making yourself believe that it would really a reliable thing for

you to make those things as your main indications on making up a decision towards your trading position or analysis.Its not bad if you do know on how to analyze off things basing into others peoples views and
analysis.Just put up into your mind that if signals and methods does precisely work then it would be really that normal that people would really be following someone who does have more chances of profitable
winning trades. Signals arent that bad if it came from other people but dont make yourself comes into a point that you are really that paying for it because it doesnt really even work and not worth at all.

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If you can build trading knowledge, it is easy to check whether the signals will work or not and you can avoid taking wrong trades. But when a trader tries to trade using third party signals without any trading knowledge, they will face losses. So relying on other's signals for trading is not the right decision. Many traders make huge profits from altcoin trading, so altcoin trading is not always bad if you have a good knowledge of crypto trading.
I would like to point out that giving out such "signals" can be done by anyone who has a crafty mindset with a basic knowledge of how the market works. It does not need to be accurate because the groups are anonymous and nobody is coming after the owner in case they fuck up.

To be honest, it is a type of a scam where they pump the coins that are owned by them while the owners of the group dump. But you dont need to be a pro trader to understand this, rather your intuition is enough of how it works.

Learn trading on your own, see how to analyse the charts and if nothing goes in your head, just buy low and sell high - that much even a newbie can do if they have patience.

 
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Learn trading on your own, see how to analyse the charts and if nothing goes in your head, just buy low and sell high - that much even a newbie can do if they have patience.

yes, it is a fairly easy practice for a newbie to trade to implement. but trading like that requires patience, and also of course not panicking too much when you see that conditions don't go according to plan.
several signal groups mostly help provide signals for futures trading which are of great interest to beginners at this time. like a bet in the casino, that's what many beginners think.



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January 20, 2023, 03:00:15 PM
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Any good signals ?
Right now many signals don't work how they use to be
Yesrterday shiba signal long was given out from the trading signals channels still not moving.

I understood If there is no pmp but dont have Even the dmps what's going on ?

Traders going mad now depresion is here.

How long we have to wait ? Feels like we going insane crypto Market should function normally always when price High then it will fall immediately down so when we short we get Nice profit.

The question is Will we stay in crypto If it's not working ?
Unlikely we stay.



LMAO  Grin If you are trading crypto just with the help of those trading signals group then you are about to lose all your money.
Signals doesn't work in the long run. At some point of time you start losing money.
This is why you actually need to start learning about investing and trading.
Only when you get to know what it is actually about then you will find out the blunders you have been doing since the beginning.

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