[ANN] [banned mixer] | Best Bitcoin Mixer | Low fees | Fully automated

[NotATether]

Chipmixer was just seized, both the clearnet and TOR site. I can't find anything about it right now, like news articles or anything, so I don't have any more information. It seems like it just happened in the past few hours. Definitely something to monitor and cautiously see if there are any opportunities for taking on more users. Perhaps lower fees for the time being as an incentive?

I still believe whatever issues it is, definitely,it will be settled,no problem remains forever,If it the need for using money to get out of the situation,then they should come down to settle it.But I believe You mix is not going to experience such dilemma and complications like other mix believe me. Yo mix is accepted by so many and more people are still giving it a try and are also attesting to the fact that the mix indeed is one of the best,and are not in competition with any other mix,it is just originally made with the way it is.

No, that's not how it works at all.

Fed does not care if YoMix is "accepted by so many". If they paint a target on your back then your days are definitely numbered.

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[Dzwaafu11]

Even though there are many mixers available, I think Yomix is among the best so far. Nevertheless, Yomix is constantly working to improve.  Yomix appears to be working toward continued growth. I'm not sure if using bitcoin will not be a challenging without mixers.
Yomix recently announced its introduction a few months ago, and they've been among the greatest mixers so far. This is my first post here, and I'm happy to be participating in these great mixer

[martyns]

Even though there are many mixers available, I think Yomix is among the best so far. Nevertheless, Yomix is constantly working to improve.  Yomix appears to be working toward continued growth. I'm not sure if using bitcoin will not be a challenging without mixers.
Yomix recently announced its introduction a few months ago, and they've been among the greatest mixers so far. This is my first post here, and I'm happy to be participating in these great mixer

Yomix has given us every reason never to have
a doubt,but to believe in it's ability,and it has so far gotten to the ears of so many people,and so many persons are anticipating to give it a try.I know there are several other mixers who are giving it stern competition,but with the potentials I've seen in Yomix,it's is unarguably one of the best so far,and I am using  this medium to tell forum mates that haven't given a try to it before, to try it and see the mix.and you will be surprised how good it is.

[JollyGood]

Do you realise your post seems more of an advertisement for YoMix rather than a constructive post? It is somewhat similar to those that were flooding the Chipmixer threads to support it when they were wearing the CM signature.

Furthermore, the post you replied to (nioctib_100) was written on 15th March yet you replied to it on 14th April. That in itself is strange to a degree. In that post apart from stating Chipmixer was seized there was nothing of substance mentioned yet you ignored informative well articulated posts by many members (including NotATether, coupable and SFR10) specifically to reply to that post. I am not stating it is the case here but usually it is one of the giveaway signs that sort of conduct is associated with alt-accounts.

As for your comments about praising YoMix and you wanting for those reading your post to believe you when you said many things including YoMix being original and it not being in competition with others, it is difficult to believe you unless you provide some sort of evidence. As you are a strong proponent for YoMix could you explain to the uninitiated what the benefits of choosing YoMix are over say for example MixTum, Unijoin, Wasabi, Coinomize, Whirwind and other mixers?

Chipmixer was just seized, both the clearnet and TOR site. I can't find anything about it right now, like news articles or anything, so I don't have any more information. It seems like it just happened in the past few hours. Definitely something to monitor and cautiously see if there are any opportunities for taking on more users. Perhaps lower fees for the time being as an incentive?

I still believe whatever issues it is, definitely,it will be settled,no problem remains forever,If it the need for using money to get out of the situation,then they should come down to settle it.But I believe You mix is not going to experience such dilemma and complications like other mix believe me. Yo mix is accepted by so many and more people are still giving it a try and are also attesting to the fact that the mix indeed is one of the best,and are not in competition with any other mix,it is just originally made with the way it is.

[examplens]

You need to fix the Letter of Guarantee popup window when it is in night mode. Grey lettering on a grey background is quite unreadable.
Maybe it's not that much of a priority, because there are options for downloading and copying, but it should definitely be clearer to the human eye.

[Flexystar]

I am in touch with YoMix for a long now but it surprises me all the time. I was reading through the blogging section of the YoMix website and came to know that we can send any number of coins. Though there is only a limited output address that is 5, does it mean if someone pushes the mixer with N-number of coins then it is still going to be stable and will give mixed coins anyway? How does that work, if the input is higher than YoMixe's balance coin, or does it work on a versatile algorithm? Just read my question as a common user if it is a stupid one, considering I'm not tech-savvy on that part. 

The other interesting bullet point I read is Affiliate Program.

Seriously I did nothing about this until I read about it in the blog. Is this program still running and pays us a 50% commission for whatever they mix? I am so happy to read this one and willing to get my hands on digital marketing right away.

The question:
What are the perks?
The 50% commission is straight or is it associated with 50% of fees etc?

Would love to know this from @yomix, please. Cheers!

Advantages and benefits:
Multi-transactions and almost instant mixing.
Low fee, supports all address formats.
The system is adapted for any number of coins.
Multitransaction and delay after mixing.
Intuitive interface, full translation into 8+ languages.
The regular, Clean version is available without using JavaScript
There is also a TORv3 mirror
Affiliate program, which allows you to get 50% of the commission.
Customer service is available 24/7/365
Deposits on various sites and a thread on Bitcointalk
With Yo!Mix mixer your Bitcoins will become completely anonymous from prying eyes.

[coupable]

I am in touch with YoMix for a long now but it surprises me all the time. I was reading through the blogging section of the YoMix website and came to know that we can send any number of coins. Though there is only a limited output address that is 5, does it mean if someone pushes the mixer with N-number of coins then it is still going to be stable and will give mixed coins anyway? How does that work, if the input is higher than YoMixe's balance coin, or does it work on a versatile algorithm? Just read my question as a common user if it is a stupid one, considering I'm not tech-savvy on that part.

In general, the mixer maintains a huge reserve capable of covering almost all operations. However, a maximum number of coins must be specified in each process, since there is a hypothesis that more than one user mixes large amounts at the same time, and the total of those coins is greater than the mixer's reserves. I would also like to know how the system is supposed to work in such cases.
I was also surprised to see this part in the Faq section :

/en/pages/faq]You can mix any number of coins, since we do not limit the maximum number. Our system automatically adjusts itself to the necessary volume and guarantees to send back to you the mixed coins within 48 hours (as long as you didn’t specify the delay of more than 48 hours).

The other interesting bullet point I read is Affiliate Program.
Seriously I did nothing about this until I read about it in the blog. Is this program still running and pays us a 50% commission for whatever they mix? I am so happy to read this one and willing to get my hands on digital marketing right away.

The question:
What are the perks?
The 50% commission is straight or is it associated with 50% of fees etc?

The referral owner will get half of the commission that the mixer will take from the mix session, and not half of the total amount to be mixed. This means that if the mixer take a commission from 1% to 3%, then you will get a commission from 1% to 1.5%, according to the commission that will be deducted in each transaction.

[PawGo]

How does that work, if the input is higher than YoMixe's balance coin, or does it work on a versatile algorithm? Just read my question as a common user if it is a stupid one, considering I'm not tech-savvy on that part. 

Ponzi?
Does Yomix use the same rule as (in)famous Chipmixer that coins received are 'older' than coins sent?

This means that if the mixer take a commission from 1% to 3%, then you will get a commission from 1% to 1.5%, according to the commission that will be deducted in each transaction.

I think you wanted to write: 0.5% - 1.5%

[YoMix]

How does that work, if the input is higher than YoMixe's balance coin, or does it work on a versatile algorithm? Just read my question as a common user if it is a stupid one, considering I'm not tech-savvy on that part. 

Ponzi?
Does Yomix use the same rule as (in)famous Chipmixer that coins received are 'older' than coins sent?

This means that if the mixer take a commission from 1% to 3%, then you will get a commission from 1% to 1.5%, according to the commission that will be deducted in each transaction.

I think you wanted to write: 0.5% - 1.5%

Obviously not
In case deposit amount is higher than our balance you'll just need to wait other users deposits. As we have pretty good inflow and enough our own reserves i don't think it'll happen.

[Flexystar]

How does that work, if the input is higher than YoMixe's balance coin, or does it work on a versatile algorithm? Just read my question as a common user if it is a stupid one, considering I'm not tech-savvy on that part. 

Ponzi?
Does Yomix use the same rule as (in)famous Chipmixer that coins received are 'older' than coins sent?

This means that if the mixer take a commission from 1% to 3%, then you will get a commission from 1% to 1.5%, according to the commission that will be deducted in each transaction.

I think you wanted to write: 0.5% - 1.5%

Obviously not
In case deposit amount is higher than our balance you'll just need to wait other users deposits. As we have pretty good inflow and enough our own reserves i don't think it'll happen.

Pretty good chance that we are getting fresh coins. Must be working on some tagging system I believe. Anyways, my next payout is going through the YoMix for sure. I did use chipmixer back in time, and that was the first time usage of mixer for me. I almost got confused as to how I received my coins. Then one of the friend told, I actually get the keys for it using which I can load my wallet.

This means that if the mixer take a commission from 1% to 3%, then you will get a commission from 1% to 1.5%, according to the commission that will be deducted in each transaction.

I think you wanted to write: 0.5% - 1.5%

Okay, so definitely need to focus on big bulls to make their transactions via YoMix considering we will be earning % of commission fees. Hmm, not bad though. A similar range is booked by exchangers in maker and taker fees.
Is anyone doing it already with success?

@yomix Will the network congestion affect our transactions and will it increase the fees taken by YoMix?

[NotATether]

@yomix Will the network congestion affect our transactions and will it increase the fees taken by YoMix?

That would be quite silly, because the situation of the mempool is very volatile and fees can drop at any time. That means by the time they start putting their heads together to agree on a new fee, the transaction backlog would've already been cleared.

Nobody should consider increasing the fees taken by any service unless the network endures a prolonged and sustained backlog of transactions for at least several months.

[Flexystar]

@yomix Will the network congestion affect our transactions and will it increase the fees taken by YoMix?

That would be quite silly, because the situation of the mempool is very volatile and fees can drop at any time. That means by the time they start putting their heads together to agree on a new fee, the transaction backlog would've already been cleared.

Nobody should consider increasing the fees taken by any service unless the network endures a prolonged and sustained backlog of transactions for at least several months.

It seems we still have high congestion at this time point as well. This week I was going to use the service for trial with my payout but it seems the network is still jammed. To take out the bitcoin from my wallet itself would take fee of ~$30 at this point. I don't how I am supposed to send my coins and use the services effectively.

As per NotATether, I know YoMix has its predefined charges which means I only have to worry about moving my coins from my wallet with such high fees. 

It's already 5 days ago since when congestion started. Reminds me 2017.
Let us hop it comes down soon and I am able to use YoMix soon. 

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It seems we still have high congestion at this time point as well. This week I was going to use the service for trial with my payout but it seems the network is still jammed. To take out the bitcoin from my wallet itself would take fee of ~$30 at this point. I don't how I am supposed to send my coins and use the services effectively.

As per NotATether, I know YoMix has its predefined charges which means I only have to worry about moving my coins from my wallet with such high fees. 

It's already 5 days ago since when congestion started. Reminds me 2017.
Let us hop it comes down soon and I am able to use YoMix soon. 

The current state of Bitcoin Network is really unfortunate. 

It does not make sense if you are transferring or mixing Bitcoins worth a few hundreds of USD. The current transaction fees do not matter if one is mixing let's say 1 BTC or even 0.5 BTC

I was trying to mix some coins, and they do have even a red banner with a warning

[Flexystar]

It seems we still have high congestion at this time point as well. This week I was going to use the service for trial with my payout but it seems the network is still jammed. To take out the bitcoin from my wallet itself would take fee of ~$30 at this point. I don't how I am supposed to send my coins and use the services effectively.

As per NotATether, I know YoMix has its predefined charges which means I only have to worry about moving my coins from my wallet with such high fees. 

It's already 5 days ago since when congestion started. Reminds me 2017.
Let us hop it comes down soon and I am able to use YoMix soon. 

The current state of Bitcoin Network is really unfortunate. 

It does not make sense if you are transferring or mixing Bitcoins worth a few hundreds of USD. The current transaction fees do not matter if one is mixing let's say 1 BTC or even 0.5 BTC

I was trying to mix some coins, and they do have even a red banner with a warning

Yeah that is where I stopped actually about the whole thing. I really wanted to put a nice review about YoMix last week but I am still waiting for the network fees to comes down. At this point I dont have or I have no desire to mix more than 0.5 bitcoin, 

I am actually seeing dropped affiliate commission too due to this reason only. It might be that they are not mixing the coins for the same reason as we have and thus no commission at all.

There should have been some sort of way out with mixer. For example, getting collective coins in a batch and lowering the fees for sender. But not sure how this would work if fees are in the court of senders wallet and not the other way around. Anyways this is way temporary issue it seems.

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There should have been some sort of way out with mixer. For example, getting collective coins in a batch and lowering the fees for sender.

Won't this compromise privacy? You know, the major reason we always opt for a mixer is privacy.
Also, I don't think batch transaction will lower the fees dramatically.

Imagine a jump in the normal transaction fee rate from let's 3 sats/vbyte a few weeks to 300 sats/vbyte today... That's a 9,900% increase in fees

Anyways this is way temporary issue it seems.

Temporary, if the Devs and bitcoin community do something about it.

[Smartvirus]

Won't this compromise privacy? You know, the major reason we always opt for a mixer is privacy.
Also, I don't think batch transaction will lower the fees dramatically.

Imagine a jump in the normal transaction fee rate from let's 3 sats/vbyte a few weeks to 300 sats/vbyte today... That's a 9,900% increase in fees

Anyways this is way temporary issue it seems.

Temporary, if the Devs and bitcoin community do something about it.

If the Devs do something about it... is the fees a function of having logs of transactions that clogs the network or some predefined fee. I guess it isn't the second and with that be the case, what can the Devs or community really do about the fee.

At this time, the fee seemed to have dropped compared to days ago when you can't even process your transaction with 100sat/byte. 50sat/byte could go from the last I checked around 14 o'clock forum time.
Still, it's a fee for a while and your drives to use them coins is the push to initiate transactions.

I don't see a way in which mixers can have it easier since, they use same network as the rest of the bitcoin community. Compounding coins comes with mo advantage as, the number of confirmations would play a role too.

[Agbe]

@yomix Will the network congestion affect our transactions and will it increase the fees taken by YoMix?

That would be quite silly, because the situation of the mempool is very volatile and fees can drop at any time. That means by the time they start putting their heads together to agree on a new fee, the transaction backlog would've already been cleared.

Nobody should consider increasing the fees taken by any service unless the network endures a prolonged and sustained backlog of transactions for at least several months.

The fee is reducing now. So very soon everything will be alright. If YoMix server is congested then even though you increase the fee, the transaction will not go fast because they have to finish the ones that were there first before any other one. So instead you just wait patiently for your turn.
There were some transactions that took full one week to arrive last week. The transactions were done since last week Monday on the 8th of May 2023 and it arrived on Monday their week 15th May 2023. So all what I am saying is patient because the congestion of the Mempool is reducing.

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I don't see a way in which mixers can have it easier since, they use same network as the rest of the bitcoin community. Compounding coins comes with mo advantage as, the number of confirmations would play a role too.

In other words, you want a mixer to work like an exchange, whereby they combine transactions in order to save fees?

You do realize this can make the job easier for Chainalysis companies and anyone trying to snoop people's transactions with all the co-spending happening in a certain pattern. I am not expert in different mixing techniques, but my intuition tells me this can mess up the much intended privacy.

[coupable]

I don't see a way in which mixers can have it easier since, they use same network as the rest of the bitcoin community. Compounding coins comes with mo advantage as, the number of confirmations would play a role too.

For deposits, the user is responsible for adjusting the fees and paying attention to the state of the network before sending to the mixer. The mixer's task can be to extend the validity of the deposit address because transactions may take much longer than expected and the sender is not able to use the RBF feature for one reason or another.
But for withdrawals, the Mixer is solely responsible for them and they must be done efficiently regardless of the state of the network if they set fixed fees for Mix operations. The only solution, in my opinion, could be to choose one of these two ideas:
1- Stopping the mixer until the end of the wave of the high fees crisis.
2- Adopting the chip method, as was done by ChipMixer, and placing the responsibility for the withdrawal on the user.

[nioctib_100]

It's a cost of doing business to have to pay the fee on the withdrawal. Yobit would make a gain if fees drop, and they make less when fees go up. They should price the mixer service at whatever they think it needs to be in order to stay profitable as fees fluctuate. A contractor who builds a house puts in his initial bid and can't change it 6 months later because the price of wood went up (in the same way he wouldn't lower it when the price of wood drops). Stopping the mixer now is like a contractor refusing to continue building the house after giving the initial quote or promise. Yobit is a 'good mixer' when we can trust that we can withdraw our coins regardless of the current transaction fee. It'd be really damaging to shut anything down when fees go high. Simply raise your fees, which is totally fair, and I think we would all understand that. If Yobit wants to be really innovative, they could even create a moving average fee: something that tracks the average transaction fee of the past week or so and adjusts their pricing model accordingly.