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WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said on Friday the United States will likely hit the $31.4 trillion statutory debt limit on Jan. 19, forcing the Treasury to launch extraordinary cash management measures that can likely prevent default until early June.

"Once the limit is reached, Treasury will need to start taking certain extraordinary measures to prevent the United States from defaulting on its obligations," Yellen said in a letter to new Republican House of Representatives Speaker Kevin McCarthy and other congressional leaders.

She urged the lawmakers to act quickly to raise the debt ceiling to "protect the full faith and credit" of the United States.

"While Treasury is not currently able to provide an estimate of how long extraordinary measures will enable us to continue to pay the government's obligations, it is unlikely that cash and extraordinary measures will be exhausted before early June," the letter said.

Republicans now in control of the House have threatened to use the debt ceiling as leverage to demand spending cuts from Democrats and the Biden administration. This has raised concerns in Washington and on Wall Street about a bruising fight over the debt ceiling this year that could be at least as disruptive as the protracted battle of 2011, which prompted a brief downgrade of the U.S. credit rating and years of forced domestic and military spending cuts.

The White House said on Friday after Yellen's letter that it will not negotiate over raising the debt ceiling.

"This should be done without conditions," White House spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters. "There’s going to be no negotiation over it."

House Republicans are planning to move a "debt prioritization" measure by the end of March that would call on the U.S. Treasury to continue making certain payments once it reaches the debt ceiling, but details have not been finalized, a person familiar with the plan told Reuters. The proposal was first reported by the Washington Post.

The Republican plan will call on the Treasury Department to keep making interest payments on the debt, the Post reported, citing sources. It may also stipulate the Treasury should continue making payments on Social Security, Medicare and veterans benefits, and fund the military, the newspaper said.

The plan was part of a private deal reached this month to resolve the standoff between right-wing hardliners in the House and McCarthy over his election as House speaker, the Post said.

Yellen's estimate expressing confidence that the government could pay its bills only through early June without increasing the limit marks a deadline considerably sooner than forecasts by some outside budget analysts that the government would exhaust its cash and borrowing capacity - the so called "X Date" - sometime in the third quarter of calendar 2023.

Analysts have noted that some Treasury bills maturing in the second half of the year are sporting a premium in their yields that may be tied to elevated risk of a default in that window.

"You could read this partly as trying to get Congress to act sooner rather than later," said Bipartisan Policy Center economics director Shai Akabas, adding that Treasury was being conservative in its approach.

Yellen said that there was "considerable uncertainty" around the length of time that extraordinary measures could stave off default, due to a variety of factors, including the challenges of forecasting the government's payments and revenues months into the future.

PENSION INVESTMENTS SUSPENDED

As of Wednesday, Treasury data showed that U.S. federal debt stood $78 billion below the limit, with a Treasury operating cash balance of $346.4 billion. The department on Thursday reported an $85 billion December deficit as revenues eased and outlays grew, particularly for debt interest costs.

Yellen said in her letter that the Treasury this month anticipates suspending new investments in two government retiree funds for pensions and healthcare, as well as suspending reinvestments in the Government Securities Investment Fund, or G Fund, part of a savings plan for federal employees. The retirement investments are restored once the debt ceiling is raised.

"The use of extraordinary measures enables the government to meet its obligations for only a limited amount of time," Yellen wrote to McCarthy and other congressional leaders.

"It is therefore critical that Congress act in a timely manner to increase or suspend the debt limit. Failure to meet the government’s obligations would cause irreparable harm to the U.S. economy, the livelihoods of all Americans, and global financial stability," Yellen wrote.


https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/yellen-urges-us-congress-act-quickly-debt-limit-2023-01-13/


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Raising the US debt ceiling has been a hot topic over the past two years.

Everytime the topic emerges in news cycles. I wonder what would happen if the US defaults. And all of the americans on state pension, welfare, unemployment, food stamps and other programs no longer receive their monthly checks. The worst case scenario, is not a good one.

Retired americans on social security are the largest viewer demographic for television news. They don't know who Alex Jones is. They're typically insulated from the information and news stories making the rounds on social media and the internet. Which means they could be the most surprised and unprepared demographic, if a US default were to occur.

Pension earning americans are also usually the most likely demographic to preach job security. College education. Pulling oneself up by their boot straps. They're the most likely age bracket to look down upon younger generations for not being as successful or independent on an age comaprison basis. Netizens typically refer to them as "boomers".

I don't know what type of motivation or reasoning people need to try harder to be more successful and have a larger margin of safety for their futures. For me, the thought of millions of americans across the country losing their sole source of income simultaneously, in the event of a US default. Has to be one of the more motivating trends I have seen over the past two years. The united states thus far, hasn't see the type of riots or widespread social upheavel that other nations have post 2020.

But I think that if the US defaults on its debt. And it slowly begins to dawn on the entire country, what that would mean for them and their bottom line. We could see some significant shifts that have been silent thus far. And that things might get ugly.
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here a lil lesson

the US treasury does not trade with other countries direct. the treasury trades with the Bank of America(central bank)

US gov owns both treasury and BoA
the treasury is technically a trust. and no one technically owns the treasury and thus the debt is not "citizens" liability.. but media and gov will pretend it is debt that citizens owe and not the politicians. (even though politicians are the decision makers so politicians should take responsibility for their decisions)

the debt from treasury is a debt to the US bank.. meaning us government (owner of both entities) could EASILY just write off that debt.. to itself

however this then would look bad for BoA(central bank corporate arm of government) who hold the bonds and sell bonds to other countries central banks and domestic/foreign commercial banks. thus making future offerings of bonds to those outsiders less appealing..

so whats the other option you may ask.. well its easy.
raise the debt ceiling. and push the problem into the next sitting government in 2024+

us government wont default
unless the BoA fails its payments to its creditors/investors(domestic commercial and international central banks).. those creditors/investors wont be begging to get paid by the BOA. meaning the BoA wont be forced to demand funds from treasury.
if BoA failed to pay outsiders. BoA can invoke "force majeure" which can delay repayments, change interest rates to lower amounts or spread payments over a lengthier period
its like when people instead of going bankrupt, do a individual voluntary agreement/debt relief order, or other restructuring plans before even getting close to filing for bankruptcy..

so before the treasury has to worry about bankruptcy it has the buffer of the BoA

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January 17, 2023, 03:47:11 PM
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Us Default is imminent...

If I had a satoshi for every article that claimed US will default or that the government will go bankrupt I would now have more coins than Satoshi. Heck, the US defaulted on its debt more times than Bitcoin got killed and that by an order of two of magnitudes.

Retired americans on social security are the largest viewer demographic for television news. They don't know who Alex Jones is. They're typically insulated from the information and news stories making the rounds on social media and the internet. Which means they could be the most surprised and unprepared demographic, if a US default were to occur.

Wait, do you consider now listening or not knowing about the pathetic lying piece of *** counterfeit viagra salesman Alex Jones a bad thing?
Sorry but the ones that are not brainwashed by the same clickbait headlines and fake articles and constant doom and gloom that was predicted for decades are actually the ones who would act far more rationally in the even of a crisis.

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January 17, 2023, 04:03:24 PM
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But as stompix says, it makes good headlines. And more importantly it gets the sheep that do listen to the doomsayers like A--x J---s to buy the gold that the people are advertising on his show for only 20% more then they could probably buy it locally. And lets not forget the canned food and shotgun advertisers that are also popular with that group of people.

OTOH, it does make BTC look better and might even partly responsible in a very small way for the bump in prove over the last few days so can't complain about that.

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Even though we are all aware that a default is highly unlikely, I still do not know entirely why the government of the United States is considered one of the safest borrowers, if some much FUD and dependence on the politicians exist.

Granted, neither Republican nor Democrats wants their country to default and go downhill, but playing with such prospect for the sake of political leverage sounds... I don't know... "non-patriotic"?

In the end, it is about how much Republicans are willing to stretch the line to get spending cuts.

Also, I wonder if USA will be ever able to reduce her debt and make increases of the ceiling a thing of the past.

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Raising the US debt ceiling has been a hot topic over the past two years.

Everytime the topic emerges in news cycles. I wonder what would happen if the US defaults. And all of the americans on state pension, welfare, unemployment, food stamps and other programs no longer receive their monthly checks. The worst case scenario, is not a good one.

Retired americans on social security are the largest viewer demographic for television news. They don't know who Alex Jones is. They're typically insulated from the information and news stories making the rounds on social media and the internet. Which means they could be the most surprised and unprepared demographic, if a US default were to occur.

Pension earning americans are also usually the most likely demographic to preach job security. College education. Pulling oneself up by their boot straps. They're the most likely age bracket to look down upon younger generations for not being as successful or independent on an age comaprison basis. Netizens typically refer to them as "boomers".

I don't know what type of motivation or reasoning people need to try harder to be more successful and have a larger margin of safety for their futures. For me, the thought of millions of americans across the country losing their sole source of income simultaneously, in the event of a US default. Has to be one of the more motivating trends I have seen over the past two years. The united states thus far, hasn't see the type of riots or widespread social upheavel that other nations have post 2020.

But I think that if the US defaults on its debt. And it slowly begins to dawn on the entire country, what that would mean for them and their bottom line. We could see some significant shifts that have been silent thus far. And that things might get ugly.

It's been a hot topic for a lot longer than the last two years and is used as a political hot potato for bargaining purposes. The opposition party at the time tries to extract the maximum benefit out of it if possible, but it depends on the composition of the house and the senate. At least this time if the democrats are able to just turn a handful of Republicans around they'll be able to stop it going over the precipice. Whoever refuses to negotiate or forces the US government to shutdown will be the big losers - nobody will come out of that situation looking good and Republicans have not been able to do much with it the last couple times it comes up, they just like to shout a lot of scary headlines before backing down.

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January 18, 2023, 10:02:16 PM
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US default is not possible, until one day it is...  all previous empires in world history went down in flames why can't US follow suit one day?

You have to be completely retarded to go bust when you're in control of the dominant global reserve currency but for some reason I'm getting more and more convinced it's totally possible and will happen sooner or later.  Roll Eyes
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