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January 09, 2023, 07:29:02 PM
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These AI "art" generators make the work of low quality crypto news sites really simple, now they don't have to hire artist to draw a physical bitcoin for 1000th time, they can have AI do it in seconds for free.
You need to spend 24$-30$ bucks monthly to use the AI without limits, and have a decent length of spare time to try different combinations until reaching the results you are looking for. And the results aren't totally smooth. There are sitll many imperfections someone would need to fix manually. As you can see the bull I've posted in OP has an extra frontal undeveloped leg. Tongue

Maybe some of these news sites would even use AI to write articles, I'm sure the quality won't suffer because it's all nonsense either way.
Probably so. There are AIs modifying and creating songs as well, although the quality is low and sometimes bizarre, morbid.

The quality of AI art is impressive, but still it's nothing more than copying of existing human art, it lacks originality, it lacks concepts. It's only good for creating boring and forgettable illustrations for cheap products.
I'm impressed with some results in many ways. I can't say they are original, but sometimes the AI recovers concepts which are amazing, but were forgotten for a long time already in history. Things that people nowadays couldn't re-create or reproduce with the same accuracy if it wasn't for the AI. Especially if you want to portray past decades and centuries on your images.

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January 09, 2023, 07:42:45 PM
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These AI "art" generators make the work of low quality crypto news sites really simple, now they don't have to hire artist to draw a physical bitcoin for 1000th time, they can have AI do it in seconds for free.
You need to spend 24$-30$ bucks monthly to use the AI without limits, and have a decent length of spare time to try different combinations until reaching the results you are looking for. And the results aren't totally smooth. There are sitll many imperfections someone would need to fix manually. As you can see the bull I've posted in OP has an extra frontal undeveloped leg. Tongue

 It is that imperfection "perhaps" that makes it art... for some.

 Those amounts that you mention remind us that above all we are in a business that seeks profit rather than creating works of art, unfortunately for those who think like this, art cannot be massive.

Oh! and fortunately for society this is still the case.

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January 09, 2023, 09:08:42 PM
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These are what came out from my try for this in AI. Could do much more but I am lazy so can't think of what else to feed the AI to get more good results.
These two are created by Nightcafe AI. I have also tried midjourney which is very good, but you need premium subscription in order to use that unlimited times. But I have tried some with my free trial to create a portrait from my own image, and it was bang on.
As AI is progressing so fast and are getting capable of doing these crazy stuffs, I wonder what it could do to the market if someone use it in wrong way.
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Using center makes it good looking IMO. Also are you the girl in the images?

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January 09, 2023, 11:06:52 PM
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Using center makes it good looking IMO. Also are you the girl in the images?
thanks, and sorry to disappoint you. But I'm not the girl on the image. It was a totally random AI generated anime face. if you want to see me then here's my own portrait made using midjourney AI.

I would say it's 85% match to my actual face. And the AI did a great job turning my ugly face to this. The facial features are there but slightly changed in order to match the prompt I guess.
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January 10, 2023, 06:55:16 AM
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I would say it's 85% match to my actual face. And the AI did a great job turning my ugly face to this. The facial features are there but slightly changed in order to match the prompt I guess.
Very good, well done!



Updated OP with more AI generated Bitcoin images. I didn't resist and purchased the monthly subscription to continue doing more experiments while trying to improve the final quality of the images. Wink

I hope you like the new images!

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January 10, 2023, 11:12:33 AM
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These AI "art" generators make the work of low quality crypto news sites really simple, now they don't have to hire artist to draw a physical bitcoin for 1000th time, they can have AI do it in seconds for free. Maybe some of these news sites would even use AI to write articles, I'm sure the quality won't suffer because it's all nonsense either way.

The quality of AI art is impressive, but still it's nothing more than copying of existing human art, it lacks originality, it lacks concepts. It's only good for creating boring and forgettable illustrations for cheap products.
they already are. peole use gpt-3 for article content from 2022 already, as for quality all depend on setup and seting you can honestly creat high quality article wit hai.
as for ai art, in the first palce what you mean orignality? concept can be created by you when prompt the generated image,
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January 11, 2023, 02:48:24 AM
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Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI

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January 12, 2023, 10:32:05 AM
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Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI
If you would actually read anything in this thread you'd notice most was soley done by AI indeed, some other pictures were slightly post-edited.
There is such thing as an obviously AI-generated-image anymore. Some are, yes, but in the right hands I bet you would not be able to tell which is which.
AI is not getting smart, it's still very dumb actually. Just read some discussions about chatgpt. That being said, these "AI-apps" are great tools for producers of any kind and are already taken off a ton of workload from real humans.

Get educated about Bitcoin. Check out Andreas Antonopoulos on Youtube. An old but gold talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc744Z9IjhY

Daniel Schmachtenberger on The Meta-Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kBoLVvoqVY&t=288s One of the most important talks about the current state of this planet. Go check it out.
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Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI

Well lets see how long it will take for an AI to take on the bitcoin cryptography. If it is possible to find private keys, then yes we actually will be doomed!
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Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI
Well lets see how long it will take for an AI to take on the bitcoin cryptography. If it is possible to find private keys, then yes we actually will be doomed!
That is what people say about the risk of quantum computers for bitcoin.

I believe all hackers would have to do is to discover the 12 secret words, and their respective sequence, from 2048 available words.

However, it must be a very powerful and fast program to find the correct solution in an acceptable time period, as there is an insane number of different possible combinations. At some point AIs might become a threat on this matter, but I guess it's too far from happening yet.

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Well lets see how long it will take for an AI to take on the bitcoin cryptography. If it is possible to find private keys, then yes we actually will be doomed!
That is what people say about the risk of quantum computers for bitcoin.

I believe all hackers would have to do is to discover the 12 secret words, and their respective sequence, from 2048 available words.

However, it must be a very powerful and fast program to find the correct solution in an acceptable time period, as there is an insane number of different possible combinations. At some point AIs might become a threat on this matter, but I guess it's too far from happening yet.

Well maybe this can be possible if AI has the brain of a quantum computer  Roll Eyes but we are totally doomed since they might predict everything  Grin but before that maybe bitcoin cryptography change too.

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As a hobbyist artist, I must say I have got mixed feelings about artificial intelligence and art.
On one hand, I believe it is cool how the technology has advanced to the point a program can understand the concept behind an artistic piece, this was science fiction not long ago. On the other hand, I am afraid this could negatively impact my fellow professional artists, who already struggle to make a living out their passion...

Anyways, cool pictures. OP.


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Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI
Well lets see how long it will take for an AI to take on the bitcoin cryptography. If it is possible to find private keys, then yes we actually will be doomed!
That is what people say about the risk of quantum computers for bitcoin.

I believe all hackers would have to do is to discover the 12 secret words, and their respective sequence, from 2048 available words.

However, it must be a very powerful and fast program to find the correct solution in an acceptable time period, as there is an insane number of different possible combinations. At some point AIs might become a threat on this matter, but I guess it's too far from happening yet.

I have to admit that AI is really growing rapidly, I haven't thought about it being able to actually decrypt bitcoin's private key, but it is really replacing humans in many areas. It is both worrisome and gratifying at the same time to see this development. The more technology develops, the more benefits it will bring to people, but at the same time, it will also take away a lot of people's jobs. As for whether AI can figure out bitcoin's private key, it's a question that should be taken care of, anything is possible.

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I just want to say that op's images are amazing. My  Internet connection is very weak right now, but I think I'll try playing with AI later. I tried it before with some online services where you could also give prompts and choose styles, but the images, while sort of beautiful, were often too bizarre, usually because of objects not being fully there, faces and bodied generally being muffled or overstretched, etc. Yours are much better. I'd love to hear more about these results. Like, how many tries does it take to make a good image, or how many minutes/hours it took to get all the images in the original post? I see you've mentioned a free trial of 25 images, but also that you've purchased a subscription.

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I just want to say that op's images are amazing. My  Internet connection is very weak right now, but I think I'll try playing with AI later. I tried it before with some online services where you could also give prompts and choose styles, but the images, while sort of beautiful, were often too bizarre, usually because of objects not being fully there, faces and bodied generally being muffled or overstretched, etc. Yours are much better. I'd love to hear more about these results. Like, how many tries does it take to make a good image, or how many minutes/hours it took to get all the images in the original post? I see you've mentioned a free trial of 25 images, but also that you've purchased a subscription.
I can only say what I experienced about 3 months ago. Things are changing very quickly, so take it with a grain of "probably already different".
- As you cannot directly influence the composition of these images (at least with MJ) but only indirectly by tweeking some parameters and adjusting your prompt, it usually took between 5 - 25 tries (renders) to come close to what I had in mind. Sometimes it also seemed impossible to really get there
- Rendertimes depend a lot on activity, servers were often overwhelmed so you would wait between maybe 15 seconds to 10 minutes just for one image
- it's a lot of trial and error but also needs some knowledge on advanced parameters to get to the desired result. Back then there were already some decent guides and a good discussion forum, so you should be able to find a lot
- imho postwork (in PS, or Gimp etc) is necessary almost always if you want to use these images in a professional context
- don't expect to get too much done with the free version, 25 renders are gone in no-time
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As a hobbyist artist, I must say I have got mixed feelings about artificial intelligence and art.
On one hand, I believe it is cool how the technology has advanced to the point a program can understand the concept behind an artistic piece, this was science fiction not long ago. On the other hand, I am afraid this could negatively impact my fellow professional artists, who already struggle to make a living out their passion...

Anyways, cool pictures. OP.
I would say that the technology have slowly killed the living of many people. Usually, those who are not related online/digital but in exchange of it, it is that many opportunities have also opened up but only to those who have a knowledge on online/digital.

Maybe those traditional artist can try upgrading and try doing digital arts because this can be the future. If not then they are free to find a new career. I just do not say that the pictures shared by the OP are all nice. This wasn't the first time I saw this but there is a one thread here last time who upload almost the same pictures. It seems that we are now being invaded by the AI but I still prefer those good old drawings tbh.

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Maybe those traditional artist can try upgrading and try doing digital arts because this can be the future. If not then they are free to find a new career. I just do not say that the pictures shared by the OP are all nice. This wasn't the first time I saw this but there is a one thread here last time who upload almost the same pictures. It seems that we are now being invaded by the AI but I still prefer those good old drawings tbh.

I have read and even seen videos of people on Youtube comparing the implementation of artificial intelligence to art to the invention of the camera, long time ago.
Their point of view is that cameras obviously did not replace artist but rather made artists not to focus too much on painting things in the real world, since people started to take pictures of politicians, cities, urban spaces, etc.

Allegedly, this pushed artist to explore new styles and draw more fantastical and surrealistic things which are only to be found within the imagination.
I am not sure how comparable was that invention of the camera to the artificial intelligence.

What do you think, do you believe it is a fair point what those people say?

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- As you cannot directly influence the composition of these images (at least with MJ) but only indirectly by tweeking some parameters and adjusting your prompt, it usually took between 5 - 25 tries (renders) to come close to what I had in mind. Sometimes it also seemed impossible to really get there
Sometimes I just give up when I see the AI isn't understanding what I mean. But I still try changing one word or another on the prompt before. I've never gone too far like 25 renders. I usually go until 4-5 attempts, although many of the results in OP were achieved in one try.

- Rendertimes depend a lot on activity, servers were often overwhelmed so you would wait between maybe 15 seconds to 10 minutes just for one image
Here it always render pretty fast. I think I've never waited more than 3 minutes. It worths mentioning there is something called "fast" mode. By acquiring the subscription you have 15 hours of renders on this mode. After that, your prompts join a kind of row, where you have to wait other people's renders (in fast mode) to complete first, until you finish yours.

- it's a lot of trial and error but also needs some knowledge on advanced parameters to get to the desired result. Back then there were already some decent guides and a good discussion forum, so you should be able to find a lot
You can ask any doubts in Discord MJ server itself. There is a specific channel for this kind of doubt and people there are very helpful.

- imho postwork (in PS, or Gimp etc) is necessary almost always if you want to use these images in a professional context
Yes, as you can see my Neanderthal on the last image has 6 fingers. Still realistic, but MJ doesn't know counting fingers with precision. Cheesy

- don't expect to get too much done with the free version, 25 renders are gone in no-time
Indeed, a subscription is a must. Paid 30$ on the second tier for a month.

Added to the personal experience of @Kryptowerk, I also wrote mine. I hope it clears your doubts out, @kryptqnick.

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January 16, 2023, 06:41:34 AM
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I have to admit that AI is really growing rapidly, I haven't thought about it being able to actually decrypt bitcoin's private key, but it is really replacing humans in many areas. It is both worrisome and gratifying at the same time to see this development. The more technology develops, the more benefits it will bring to people, but at the same time, it will also take away a lot of people's jobs. As for whether AI can figure out bitcoin's private key, it's a question that should be taken care of, anything is possible.

Those two things are very different.

A private key is a specific, unique series of symbols, from a vast set of combinations.

A generated image from text, although impressive, is way simpler to obtain that the private key, in terms of probabilities.

Think about it, given a single image, you could generate millions of images that look basically the same to the human eye but are represented by different raw numbers (each pixel is usually encoded by 3 eight-bit numbers). JPG compression is based on this concept, they can represent an image with another image that looks the same to a human, using way less information.

Then, you have the semantics. "A picture of a cat" has virtually an infinite number of outputs. You can have a close-up, another farther away, different colors or types of cats, etc. The interpretation of the prompt will basically generate an infinite amount of valid outputs.

And so on...

On the other hand, a private key is unique and even if it's one bit off, it simply won't work at all.

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