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January 06, 2023, 05:46:23 PM
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I have been researching Real Estate Tokenization for many years and I'm keen to hear your thoughts on the subject. I've gathered a great deal of knowledge on the topic and I'm excited to share what I believe is the most promising project in the space. But first let's talk about real estate tokenization.


Real estate tokenization has the potential to revolutionize the industry and become a multi-trillion dollar industry over the next five years. Tokenization allows for fractional ownership of real estate assets, making them much more accessible to the average investor. It removes the need for expensive administrative fees and eliminates the need for middlemen, making it much more cost-effective for investors. Additionally, tokenized assets are much more liquid and transferable, allowing for easier trading and faster settlement. This increased liquidity, access, and cost-effectiveness will likely attract a large number of investors, leading to an increase in demand and driving up the value of tokenized real estate assets. Furthermore, tokenization has the potential to open up the real estate market to a much larger global audience, potentially increasing the industry’s size and value. As such, it is not unreasonable to expect that tokenization will become an integral part of the real estate industry, driving its value to a multi-trillion dollar level over the next five years.


There is no question that cryptocurrencies are here to stay and will only continue to grow in popularity and acceptance in various industries. I have created a PDF that outlines my optimistic outlook for the best project in the tokenization of real estate space; please take a look at it on my website and let me know your thoughts. If you have any questions about tokenization, do not hesitate.. cheers

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January 06, 2023, 06:56:42 PM
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You can't launch real estate token yet. There is not legislation for this. every firm that will try to do this will have to be fully regulated. There is no way to eliminate middleman. You own x% of real estate but there have to be someone who is renting it, fixing, maintaining etc. There is someone who pick it, bought it from regular market and do all papers to offer as token.

For those wanting to own fraction of real estate there are REITS - ETFs from regulated funds investing in real estates all around the globe. There is no reason to invest now in this sector.
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January 06, 2023, 07:04:37 PM
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You can't launch real estate token yet. There is not legislation for this. every firm that will try to do this will have to be fully regulated. There is no way to eliminate middleman. You own x% of real estate but there have to be someone who is renting it, fixing, maintaining etc. There is someone who pick it, bought it from regular market and do all papers to offer as token.

For those wanting to own fraction of real estate there are REITS - ETFs from regulated funds investing in real estates all around the globe. There is no reason to invest now in this sector.


this is simply not true... there are many ways to tokenize real estate today and sell a portion of the asset.. legally today..

ETF's are very expensive, not specific to a property or property owner you want to invest with and aren't available to many people around the world...

tokenization is open to everyone with a smart phone..
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January 06, 2023, 07:07:27 PM
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Did you think is working?

Tell us some of the projects who actually connect "Real Estate" sector to crypto that actually worked right now. Since 2017/2018 there a lot projects who try to do this (AI, Real Estate things, etc). Ended the same, failing, scamming, and abandoning.

I don't thing is gonna to work, not everything need a blockchain.

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January 06, 2023, 07:11:53 PM
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I remember writing about this a few years ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185915.msg54164595#msg54164595
To my surprise, the project is working and developing
http://www.realt.co/

https://blog.stomarket.com/realt-releases-new-yam-defi-marketplace-ec4e1997524a
"In April 2022, RealT unveiled its first true ‘DeFi’ play with the beginning of its RMM beta. The RMM was a great stride of progress for RealT and the entire real estate tokenization industry.."

I would take a look at them
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January 07, 2023, 01:19:51 PM
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I have been researching Real Estate Tokenization for many years and I'm keen to hear your thoughts on the subject. I've gathered a great deal of knowledge on the topic and I'm excited to share what I believe is the most promising project in the space. But first let's talk about real estate tokenization.
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So you are so heavily invested in BST and you made a PDF to tell us why you did it? Sounds like BlockSquare haven't been completely honest with you. Tech suitable for something like this doesn't exist yet. It's not going to be suitable for ETH or any existing blockchains, nor there is layer 2 solution. You can tokenize synthetic assets but that's nothing special.

Using tokenization on current blockhains doesn't solve any problems. In fact it just creates an unnecessary layer of other problems, starting from the fact that transactions should be reversable if you want to satisfy regulators. They also should be private on L1 in order to prevent front running. And this that's just a surface. That's why all these projects are going to fail. They are not creating solutions nor they are taking out a middle man, the are taking out A middle man and replacing it with them. They are creating smoke and mirrors.

If you really want to take a look a platform who is trying to solve this, google dusk network.

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January 07, 2023, 10:47:42 PM
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I have been researching Real Estate Tokenization for many years and I'm keen to hear your thoughts on the subject. I've gathered a great deal of knowledge on the topic and I'm excited to share what I believe is the most promising project in the space. But first let's talk about real estate tokenization.
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So you are so heavily invested in BST and you made a PDF to tell us why you did it? Sounds like BlockSquare haven't been completely honest with you. Tech suitable for something like this doesn't exist yet. It's not going to be suitable for ETH or any existing blockchains, nor there is layer 2 solution. You can tokenize synthetic assets but that's nothing special.

Using tokenization on current blockhains doesn't solve any problems. In fact it just creates an unnecessary layer of other problems, starting from the fact that transactions should be reversable if you want to satisfy regulators. They also should be private on L1 in order to prevent front running. And this that's just a surface. That's why all these projects are going to fail. They are not creating solutions nor they are taking out a middle man, the are taking out A middle man and replacing it with them. They are creating smoke and mirrors.

If you really want to take a look a platform who is trying to solve this, google dusk network.

It is all business and trends.  Because tokenization is hot, people will launch this kind of project in all sectors even though it is really not necessary.  They launch it for the purpose of milking investors since it is hot and on-trend then, later on, find unfixable problems and abandon the idea.  We have seen several crypto projects that focuses in Real Estate but most of them are dead now.

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January 08, 2023, 12:26:28 AM
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I have been researching Real Estate Tokenization for many years and I'm keen to hear your thoughts on the subject. I've gathered a great deal of knowledge on the topic and I'm excited to share what I believe is the most promising project in the space. But first let's talk about real estate tokenization.
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So you are so heavily invested in BST and you made a PDF to tell us why you did it? Sounds like BlockSquare haven't been completely honest with you. Tech suitable for something like this doesn't exist yet. It's not going to be suitable for ETH or any existing blockchains, nor there is layer 2 solution. You can tokenize synthetic assets but that's nothing special.

Using tokenization on current blockhains doesn't solve any problems. In fact it just creates an unnecessary layer of other problems, starting from the fact that transactions should be reversable if you want to satisfy regulators. They also should be private on L1 in order to prevent front running. And this that's just a surface. That's why all these projects are going to fail. They are not creating solutions nor they are taking out a middle man, the are taking out A middle man and replacing it with them. They are creating smoke and mirrors.

If you really want to take a look a platform who is trying to solve this, google dusk network.

It is all business and trends.  Because tokenization is hot, people will launch this kind of project in all sectors even though it is really not necessary.  They launch it for the purpose of milking investors since it is hot and on-trend then, later on, find unfixable problems and abandon the idea.  We have seen several crypto projects that focuses in Real Estate but most of them are dead now.


you couldn't be more wrong about your post.... they have been working since 2017 on this and they have taking minimal money from investors





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January 08, 2023, 12:41:41 AM
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I have been researching Real Estate Tokenization for many years and I'm keen to hear your thoughts on the subject. I've gathered a great deal of knowledge on the topic and I'm excited to share what I believe is the most promising project in the space. But first let's talk about real estate tokenization.
I didn't need token but i need a land or certificate of title as proof of ownership for my real estate lol. Owning token didn't make you as a real ownership of property since there's no regulation that said owning token proves you to be the real ownership. You shall not make it become complicated while if can be done easily. Don't be so stuped man. The tokenization for real estate will never work.
Crypto can be used only for payment system when you wanna try to buy real estate but owning real estate needs a land or certificate of title. You buy a real estate used crypto and then you get certificate as proof of ownership.
It's legal in front of the law. The tokenization didn't represent you as real owner. It can be faked easily.

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January 08, 2023, 08:17:39 AM
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tokenization is open to everyone with a smart phone..

Yep, everyone is free to get scammed by someone who claims that his token is collateralized by real estate when in fact its collateralized by air and fancy words.

this is simply not true... there are many ways to tokenize real estate today and sell a portion of the asset.. legally today..

Name a few that are provably fair and give me 100% certain that I own part of property.

ETF's are very expensive, not specific to a property or property owner you want to invest with and aren't available to many people around the world...

Majority of costs of REITS (real estate etfs) are cost that are inevitable even for tokenized assets (property maintaining, renting etc.).

"Buffett Says Focus on the Forest, Forget the Trees". Its better to have 0.1% share of 100 properties rather than 10% in 1 property. Costs per single property also goes down when company owns 100 of them.
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January 08, 2023, 09:58:33 AM
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Fractional ownership can be solved without tokenization or blockchain. The barrier of intermediaries and administrative fees are also can be managed without tokenization or blockchain, the process itself does not require any token. So on and so forth in regard what the benefit of tokenization you mentioned on OP.

Tell me specifically in which part of the technological or technicalities problems of real estate that solely requires a token or blockchain to be implemented and utilized? What does even tokenization has something to do with real estate, what makes it distinct from any viable system which not using tokens?
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January 08, 2023, 11:07:40 AM
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I think there are two or three projects ai work on real state tokenization on bounty and guess what none of them has been ever heard now. What does it mean? Simple right, its not for every application it works. I didnt say its noy gonna work but with the side of legal aspect how does tokenization can work best for real state. Maybe not yet now, but probably in the future there will more interesting approach on this kind of real use case field.

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January 08, 2023, 12:00:56 PM
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Thats future shit. Here they are not even accepting the bitcoin and altcoins as legal tender andhow the hell we could imagine real estates getting tokenized. Only few examples might be thereso I am not sure if this is even a valid thing to say. With the real estates getting linked with the
token there comes hell lot of responsibility because it has to be handed over with the proper
documentation, tax documents and has to be filed for proper ownership. I assume this won't be
easy one to perform with the help of tokenization unless and until there are system which allows
data to be fetched from the Government institute into the blockchain. That is going to be big barrier over this thing

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January 08, 2023, 02:12:35 PM
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I have been researching Real Estate Tokenization for many years and I'm keen to hear your thoughts on the subject. I've gathered a great deal of knowledge on the topic and I'm excited to share what I believe is the most promising project in the space. But first let's talk about real estate tokenization.

Even though i can understand that the idea of the tokenization of real estate sounds like the next big thing to some people i am still not really sure if this would really work out smoothly in the real world. First of all i think you basically have to create a dedicated token for every single real estate object that you want to sell shares of because otherwise i think it would not work. Or maybe you could make a single token if you are a real estate company and then you could basically buy shares of every building that this company is owning and therefore get your share of all the revenue that this objects are creating.
Also you have to pay maintenance and other costs as a house owner. So this also needs to be handled somewhere if you want to tokenize real estate.
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January 08, 2023, 05:40:25 PM
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Doing this is kinda like creating derivatives off of stocks - it somehow doesn't make sense. While the idea of owning a 'share' of a real estate sounds plausible, whoever holds the title still has the ownership of the lot, and those who invested or bought a token of that lot/house will just be fools donating to someone that can easily run away with their money.

There are some things that just cannot be tokenized or be converted into crypto, and one of them is real estate. People throwing out these ideas here and there should really think a lot before they put out their ideas in the market and have some actual money involved.

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January 08, 2023, 06:19:03 PM
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you couldn't be more wrong about your post.... they have been working since 2017 on this and they have taking minimal money from investors
you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make them drink it.....
I didn't say that they weren't working. They would be sued if they didn't use their ico money for something productive.
I was explaining to you why their tech won't be widely adopted, it's not because it's too new and high tech. It's because it's unnecessary and doesn't solve anything.

But please, elaborate how i was wrong.

This guy gets it.

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January 09, 2023, 01:31:38 AM
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everyone with their uneducated opinion, not many real good questions or even curiosity of how it work.. rather simply.. it cannot, no point blah blah


just to inform there has already been over 50 miilion dollars worth of real estate tokenized with the company I made the PDF on and they are one of many companies in this space.. it can work, it does work and there are many reason why people would want to.. and no someone cant simply run away with the money.. like saying TESLA sold all shares of the stock and ran away with the full valuation... same legal binding process as the tokens are tied to economic rights
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January 09, 2023, 02:36:13 PM
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everyone with their uneducated opinion, not many real good questions or even curiosity of how it work.. rather simply.. it cannot, no point blah blah


just to inform there has already been over 50 miilion dollars worth of real estate tokenized with the company I made the PDF on and they are one of many companies in this space.. it can work, it does work and there are many reason why people would want to.. and no someone cant simply run away with the money.. like saying TESLA sold all shares of the stock and ran away with the full valuation... same legal binding process as the tokens are tied to economic rights
It's $45M according to their web page. And do you understand how little 45 million is in real estate value? And they had 5 years to manage this. And it's just value under tokenization.

And if you think it's still a lot and this company is doing so well, how come your token prize doesn't reflect it? I know, because the token in it is pointless, just like tokenization they are currently doing. It's all just buzzword that came years too early as there isn't suitable tech for it yet like i said. I mean you CAN tokenize assets but right now it's counterproductive. It doesn't solve anything yet.

And you are twisting what i said. They had their ico money, of course they needed to reinvest it to their company, instead of running with it.

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