Why are account farmers still left to roam free in the forum?

[Alone055]

So what do you think about how to stop such account selling activity, Do you have any ideas?

I was thinking that someone (from DT1/DT2), for the sake of knowing the accounts being traded, create a new account and message the seller pretending to be a potential buyer and ask him (the seller) to show him the account he is going to buy so that he can check the post quality and everything. Once the accounts are revealed to them, they should get back to their original accounts and tag those accounts so that the seller cannot sell them and bears the loss.

It's just an idea that came up in my mind, and I think it can work (unless the seller is reading this right now  ).

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[hugeblack]

If it's easy for them to collect merits, then it's easier for you to rank-up 3-5 accounts, and then join signature campaigns instead of selling those accounts.
Most of the accounts that are sold will be either pre-established merit system or have very low merits rate.
Add to this all the risks related to the possibility of exposing the account, obtaining negative trust, and other problems.
Only idiots would buy those accounts *if they were real and not scams*

[LoyceV]

I was thinking that someone (from DT1/DT2), for the sake of knowing the accounts being traded, create a new account and message the seller pretending to be a potential buyer and ask him (the seller) to show him the account he is going to buy so that he can check the post quality and everything. Once the accounts are revealed to them, they should get back to their original accounts and tag those accounts so that the seller cannot sell them and bears the loss.

Someone did that, and it caused a lot of drama. Short version: not everybody thinks publishing PMs is a good thing.

[BITCOIN4X]

I was thinking that someone (from DT1/DT2), for the sake of knowing the accounts being traded, create a new account and message the seller pretending to be a potential buyer and ask him (the seller) to show him the account he is going to buy so that he can check the post quality and everything. Once the accounts are revealed to them, they should get back to their original accounts and tag those accounts so that the seller cannot sell them and bears the loss.

Some time ago someone with the same idea did it and exposed an account sale. I didn't find the thread at the moment, but it has been done.

After all, if you are interested in continuing with the idea and trying to disclose account trading transactions then you just have to do it. You only need to get the seller and the name of the account to be sold where you can confirm it with valid evidence.

It's just an idea that came up in my mind, and I think it can work (unless the seller is reading this right now  ).

Only do it if you are sure, but I think the seller will be more sneaky than you can imagine. Check the reputation.

[_BlackStar]

I was thinking that someone (from DT1/DT2), for the sake of knowing the accounts being traded, create a new account and message the seller pretending to be a potential buyer and ask him (the seller) to show him the account he is going to buy so that he can check the post quality and everything. Once the accounts are revealed to them, they should get back to their original accounts and tag those accounts so that the seller cannot sell them and bears the loss.

Some time ago someone with the same idea did it and exposed an account sale. I didn't find the thread at the moment, but it has been done.

Here he is: [Investigation] Fighting The Account Mafia

I think the idea is trap, but that's fine if the OP really wants to do it. It's a difficult operation, but it may be worth it. Your success rate depends only on how you trick the seller and collect data from all accounts, but I think now they move more after the previous incident. Good luck ^{[if OP really want to do it].} I just don't want to waste my time talking to scammers.

[BitDane]

I was thinking that someone (from DT1/DT2), for the sake of knowing the accounts being traded, create a new account and message the seller pretending to be a potential buyer and ask him (the seller) to show him the account he is going to buy so that he can check the post quality and everything. Once the accounts are revealed to them, they should get back to their original accounts and tag those accounts so that the seller cannot sell them and bears the loss.

Some time ago someone with the same idea did it and exposed an account sale. I didn't find the thread at the moment, but it has been done.

Here he is: [Investigation] Fighting The Account Mafia

I think the idea is trap, but that's fine if the OP really wants to do it. It's a difficult operation, but it may be worth it. Your success rate depends only on how you trick the seller and collect data from all accounts, but I think now they move more after the previous incident. Good luck ^{[if OP really want to do it].} I just don't want to waste my time talking to scammers.

I do think too, looking at the prices, a Legendary account selling @$299 and other account prices, I think it is too good to be true, it is more profitable if those accounts are enrolled in a campaign so selling them is like selling at a loss.  They are put them in there probably to lure naive buyer and scam them. Who knows, the escrow the seller is talking about might be the sellers another alt account. And anyone got interested and bought those account may be in for a scam.


Account farmers still left to roam free because alt accounts is allowed while account selling is highly discourage, it is not prohibited.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

it is more profitable if those accounts are enrolled in a campaign so selling them is like selling at a loss. 

That may well be true, but there are some people who either don't want to or can't (because of time constraints or language issues) participate in sig campaigns, and if you've been here long enough you know that account sales are real--even Legendary ones with the potential to earn decent money.

But all that being said, who knows if this offer is a scam?  It could be, and even if it's legitimate I expect the prices shown were posted with the expectation that a potential buyer is going to try to negotiate a better deal.  $299 for a Legendary account seems incredible to me, but since the merit system basically makes it impossible for the average shitposting campaigner-wannabee to get to that rank, those accounts might actually sell for that much.

Crazy.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I know that it is not prohibited but they should be hunted down and negative tagged to stop such activities.

So what do you think about how to stop such account selling activity, Do you have any ideas?

So far, account sellers and accounts that are known to change hands are most likely marked with negative tag, that is the consequence of not being liked by forum users. But as you can see, they are also unstoppable despite being hunted and tagged with negative tag. The basic rule is, "account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged".

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Marking with a negative tag is also a big question today. Not everyone agrees that an account should be tagged if it's not causing any harm. But this is of course not entirely fair, as among the newcomers there are people who are desperately trying to move up in rank, just like purchased accounts, with the goal of participating in the future in subscription companies, but they are honestly working to raise the rank.
Here is the last case with a purchased or hacked account, as you can see, the owner himself did not answer the question asked whether he was bought or is the real owner. And the neutral review that appeared in him still does not raise objections from him.
Someone here wants to use a red paint gun?

[Lucius]

I was thinking that someone (from DT1/DT2), for the sake of knowing the accounts being traded, create a new account and message the seller pretending to be a potential buyer and ask him (the seller) to show him the account he is going to buy so that he can check the post quality and everything. Once the accounts are revealed to them, they should get back to their original accounts and tag those accounts so that the seller cannot sell them and bears the loss.

It's just an idea that came up in my mind, and I think it can work (unless the seller is reading this right now  ).

Here he is: [Investigation] Fighting The Account Mafia

The thread only has two pages, and the OP and some others didn't even bother to read all the answers, so they ask the same questions and give the same answers that already exist... Sometimes I wonder if I'm writing in Chinese so no one understands me, or if it's something else in question...

However, there are those who still fight against those who do this, and most of you must have noticed that there is a thread about it in Reputation -> [Investigation] Fighting The Account Mafia

[skarais]

Marking with a negative tag is also a big question today. Not everyone agrees that an account should be tagged if it's not causing any harm. But this is of course not entirely fair, as among the newcomers there are people who are desperately trying to move up in rank, just like purchased accounts, with the goal of participating in the future in subscription companies, but they are honestly working to raise the rank.

Of course, not all users will use its power to handle cases of selling accounts for various reasons, but I'm sure there are always users who care about this activity. It's not fair, beginners have to work extra hard to get rankings and I agree with you here.

So that's why forum users dislike of account selling and negative tag are trying to stop it. The problem still won't be solved and the sale of accounts will still occur, but efforts to stop it are also necessary especially when it's done blatantly.

[Mpamaegbu]

Sometimes, I force myself to look at the way theymos runs this forum as the best way. He's liberal to the point that he doesn't want members to be unnecessarily hurt. Clamping down on the excesses of members which aren't covered in the forum rules as prohibited will be an arbitrary use of power and I believe that isn't what theymos wants. OP, closing such threads or banning such members who indulge in account or merit sales isn't stated anywhere here. So, the best disciplinary approach to it is what other members do to culprits of such by tagging those accounts found guilty. By doing that the bought accounts are rendered useless because they can't achieve the aim for which they are purchased – to get into signature campaigns.

[Alone055]

Someone did that, and it caused a lot of drama. Short version: not everybody thinks publishing PMs is a good thing.

I guess it's not a very good idea then. I don't want to get into any trouble myself as it becomes very difficult to prove things once everything gets complicated.

Here he is: [Investigation] Fighting The Account Mafia

I think the idea is trap, but that's fine if the OP really wants to do it. It's a difficult operation, but it may be worth it. Your success rate depends only on how you trick the seller and collect data from all accounts, but I think now they move more after the previous incident. Good luck ^{[if OP really want to do it].} I just don't want to waste my time talking to scammers.

Thank you for the link to that thread, I believe I was inactive during that time, so I wasn't aware it was already tried once or twice. And I think I will need to rethink about this and see if I can go with it. Although I feel that it is worth a shot but after reading that thread and all responses. in this thread and in that as well, I will need to think it through.