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March 01, 2023, 02:58:16 AM
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When we try to find a good and trustworthy casino there are many, the problem is that they require KYC, there is no doubt about that, I have also seen how some casinos start and try not to enforce KYC, but it becomes a problem because if there is no a KYC requirement implies that the licenses are not complete and this causes problems with some players because they do not accept the casino, they say it is not trustworthy.

What few know is that these licenses originate to be accountable to government agencies, that's why I don't defend the KYC requirements very much, and for this reason it's obvious that I will never agree, that's why I see KYC as a Double-edged sword, everything related to Crypto must be handled under a privacy environment, but how to make an entire community of players understand this?

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March 01, 2023, 03:23:18 AM
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But still, people tend to risk their funds in exchange for relative anonymity, and yes, KYC on the one hand should seem to guarantee the security of players' funds, but on the other hand there are many examples of fraudulent online casinos with strict KYC.
They dare to risk money and dare to take risks just for the sake of being able to gamble anonymously and not needing to provide KYC, but for me it is a slightly risky choice and tends to make our money disappear if we choose the wrong casino without KYC.
Having KYC does not only guarantee the security of player funds but can also give more trust to the casino that has been used.
Indeed there are some casinos with quite strict KYC but they still commit fraud but it seems there are not many and only a few do it.

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March 01, 2023, 06:05:09 AM
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Having KYC does not only guarantee the security of player funds but can also give more trust to the casino that has been used.
Indeed there are some casinos with quite strict KYC but they still commit fraud but it seems there are not many and only a few do it.
I disagree. KYC doesn't guarantee security to be honest with you. If hackers hack into the site, they could easily acquire your KYC details and spread it wherever they want to which could screw you in various ways.

Personally, I didn't provide my KYC yet in any crypto gambling site that I gamble in and I have withdrawn thousands of dollars so far without any issues.

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March 01, 2023, 07:07:59 AM
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Having KYC does not only guarantee the security of player funds but can also give more trust to the casino that has been used.
Indeed there are some casinos with quite strict KYC but they still commit fraud but it seems there are not many and only a few do it.
I disagree. KYC doesn't guarantee security to be honest with you. If hackers hack into the site, they could easily acquire your KYC details and spread it wherever they want to which could screw you in various ways.

Personally, I didn't provide my KYC yet in any crypto gambling site that I gamble in and I have withdrawn thousands of dollars so far without any issues.
actually not all gamblers have the same view on this KYC issue, because we know that each one has different thoughts, after all, whoever gives KYC to the casino certainly understands the risks, I also think maybe KYC doesn't guarantee security because like you also say, maybe the site was hacked and shared all user information including KYC, but again that everyone has their own wishes, there is no compulsion in this case everyone can choose whether they want to play at a casino that uses KYC or not, so far I have also played casinos not used KYC and everything is safe withdrawing hundreds of dollars because I'm just a small gambler

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March 01, 2023, 01:00:18 PM
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Having KYC does not only guarantee the security of player funds but can also give more trust to the casino that has been used.
Indeed there are some casinos with quite strict KYC but they still commit fraud but it seems there are not many and only a few do it.
I disagree. KYC doesn't guarantee security to be honest with you. If hackers hack into the site, they could easily acquire your KYC details and spread it wherever they want to which could screw you in various ways.

Personally, I didn't provide my KYC yet in any crypto gambling site that I gamble in and I have withdrawn thousands of dollars so far without any issues.
actually not all gamblers have the same view on this KYC issue, because we know that each one has different thoughts, after all, whoever gives KYC to the casino certainly understands the risks, I also think maybe KYC doesn't guarantee security because like you also say, maybe the site was hacked and shared all user information including KYC, but again that everyone has their own wishes, there is no compulsion in this case everyone can choose whether they want to play at a casino that uses KYC or not, so far I have also played casinos not used KYC and everything is safe withdrawing hundreds of dollars because I'm just a small gambler
KYC is something that casinos are starting to require, especially for suspicious accounts by casinos because casinos want to know the background of those accounts. But the request to do KYC for each member is still random. So if something happens with someone's data, the casino should be responsible for protecting the identity or KYC details of its users because they are the ones asking them to do KYC. And when we as users are asked to do KYC, we should know the risks in submitting our detailed information to third parties, in this case, casinos. And I also like playing gambling in casinos that don't require KYC for their users.

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March 01, 2023, 05:45:37 PM
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So if something happens with someone's data, the casino should be responsible for protecting the identity or KYC details of its users because they are the ones asking them to do KYC. And when we as users are asked to do KYC, we should know the risks in submitting our detailed information to third parties, in this case, casinos. And I also like playing gambling in casinos that don't require KYC for their users.
Casinos won't be able to protect your KYC information once hackers successfully penetrate their security systems. This is why so many gamblers including me worry about providing our KYC.

KYC shouldn't be mandatory and it should be enforced only if they legitimately find something suspicious or for big withdrawals.

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March 01, 2023, 11:08:37 PM
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So if something happens with someone's data, the casino should be responsible for protecting the identity or KYC details of its users because they are the ones asking them to do KYC. And when we as users are asked to do KYC, we should know the risks in submitting our detailed information to third parties, in this case, casinos. And I also like playing gambling in casinos that don't require KYC for their users.
Casinos won't be able to protect your KYC information once hackers successfully penetrate their security systems. This is why so many gamblers including me worry about providing our KYC.

KYC shouldn't be mandatory and it should be enforced only if they legitimately find something suspicious or for big withdrawals.
Most of platforms that we do have today on which they arent asking out some KYC on the time that you do make out some registration but most of their terms and conditions do really have
stated about possible verification if ever they would be seeing some suspicious activity or some violation which is really that pretty common nowadays.The thing that we should really avoid
is into those platforms who do really ask out for some kyc on the time that you do register which i do directly turn my back on the time i do encounter
this kind of platforms.

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March 01, 2023, 11:57:14 PM
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KYC shouldn't be mandatory and it should be enforced only if they legitimately find something suspicious or for big withdrawals.
Unfortunately, this is not an option for licensed casinos. Regulations and rules are becoming more and more strict especially when big amounts of money is involved. Casinos or any other crypto-service providershave to comply with them if they don't want to face any legal issues and get sanctioned.
For customers, the only advantage of having a KYCed account is that you can your identification documents to recover your account in case you lose access to it.

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March 02, 2023, 03:44:37 AM
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So if something happens with someone's data, the casino should be responsible for protecting the identity or KYC details of its users because they are the ones asking them to do KYC. And when we as users are asked to do KYC, we should know the risks in submitting our detailed information to third parties, in this case, casinos. And I also like playing gambling in casinos that don't require KYC for their users.
Casinos won't be able to protect your KYC information once hackers successfully penetrate their security systems. This is why so many gamblers including me worry about providing our KYC.

KYC shouldn't be mandatory and it should be enforced only if they legitimately find something suspicious or for big withdrawals.
It should be the casino's responsibility to protect the data of customers who have done KYC so there are no worries from their customers. After all, we as gamblers need to feel safe and comfortable when playing gambling at casinos, so casinos must know this and try their best to provide what they can for their customers.

KYC is not mandatory at this time, but over time and the government wants to know more about each user who plays gambling will tighten the regulations regarding KYC. And it will keep those who want to cheat from doing so because it means their account is at risk of being frozen by the casino.

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March 02, 2023, 08:09:47 PM
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Unfortunately, this is not an option for licensed casinos. Regulations and rules are becoming more and more strict especially when big amounts of money is involved. Casinos or any other crypto-service providershave to comply with them if they don't want to face any legal issues and get sanctioned.
Not all licensed casinos enforce mandatory KYC. For example, I have been gambling at sites like Stake, Crypto.Games etc from a long time and they never asked me to submit KYC so far.

KYC is not mandatory at this time, but over time and the government wants to know more about each user who plays gambling will tighten the regulations regarding KYC. And it will keep those who want to cheat from doing so because it means their account is at risk of being frozen by the casino.
True. More and more sites need to comply with government rules and regulations in order to survive, but they don't need to enforce mandatory KYC to survive.

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March 03, 2023, 04:57:34 AM
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When we try to find a good and trustworthy casino there are many, the problem is that they require KYC, there is no doubt about that, I have also seen how some casinos start and try not to enforce KYC, but it becomes a problem because if there is no a KYC requirement implies that the licenses are not complete and this causes problems with some players because they do not accept the casino, they say it is not trustworthy.

What few know is that these licenses originate to be accountable to government agencies, that's why I don't defend the KYC requirements very much, and for this reason it's obvious that I will never agree, that's why I see KYC as a Double-edged sword, everything related to Crypto must be handled under a privacy environment, but how to make an entire community of players understand this?


         -   Maybe not all crypto casinos that implement no KYC are unlicensed. Just for example at bit casino, I often play on this platform, and I think I have experienced winning different amounts here about 3 times the highest I won was around 222$ and when I took it out I won I was not asked for KYC to withdraw this amount. I just waited a few hours before it was transferred to the address I gave in the withdrawal.

Although there are often other casinos that will say no kyc but in terms of withdrawing a large amount of winning suddenly require KYC from the gambler which sometimes leads to a complaint because suddenly the issue is account was being blocked. This is the casino that probably has a problem with legality or something.

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March 03, 2023, 05:13:26 AM
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Not all licensed casinos enforce mandatory KYC. For example, I have been gambling at sites like Stake, Crypto.Games etc from a long time and they never asked me to submit KYC so far.
for older popular and licensed casinos like Stake.com etc they don't require KYC unless absolutely necessary to solve a serious problem.
but it seems that for a new and licensed casino they say they don't require KYC but when a customer gets a big win the casino asks the customer to send KYC and it has happened several times.

but after all, a licensed casino will definitely require KYC whenever needed.

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March 03, 2023, 06:58:32 AM
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Not all licensed casinos enforce mandatory KYC. For example, I have been gambling at sites like Stake, Crypto.Games etc from a long time and they never asked me to submit KYC so far.
for older popular and licensed casinos like Stake.com etc they don't require KYC unless absolutely necessary to solve a serious problem.
but it seems that for a new and licensed casino they say they don't require KYC but when a customer gets a big win the casino asks the customer to send KYC and it has happened several times.

but after all, a licensed casino will definitely require KYC whenever needed.
Yeah!  Whenever someone starts playing in a new casino that does not require KYC, any player must clearly understand that if he wins some sufficiently large amount of money, and in any cryptocurrency at the current exchange rate for dollars, then he will inevitably  will require KYC.  You just have to be constantly ready for it. 
So that this does not come as an unpleasant surprise to you.  And here it is useless to argue with support, because they will immediately answer you that the casino has no right to violate the law.  And so you can simply lose your winnings if it is critical for you to remain anonymous in your games. 

I recommend that all players do not take the lack of KYC when registering at a new casino seriously and hope that you will never be asked to actually log in through KYC.

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March 03, 2023, 07:36:41 AM
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Having KYC does not only guarantee the security of player funds but can also give more trust to the casino that has been used.
Indeed there are some casinos with quite strict KYC but they still commit fraud but it seems there are not many and only a few do it.
I disagree. KYC doesn't guarantee security to be honest with you. If hackers hack into the site, they could easily acquire your KYC details and spread it wherever they want to which could screw you in various ways.

Personally, I didn't provide my KYC yet in any crypto gambling site that I gamble in and I have withdrawn thousands of dollars so far without any issues.
You are right that KYC does not guarantee security but if the casino is truly registered and regulated, it's a better bargain for you than without KYC. Of course, no website is completely immune from hacking, am only disappointed that you guys are taking this as an excuse instead of looking elsewhere to the benefits of KYC.

If a website is new, my dear, you are talking 50/50 chance with them if they are without KYC. Because without it, it means they are not regulated. But you have higher rest of mind if they are truly regulated.

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March 03, 2023, 07:55:54 AM
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Having KYC does not only guarantee the security of player funds but can also give more trust to the casino that has been used.
Indeed there are some casinos with quite strict KYC but they still commit fraud but it seems there are not many and only a few do it.
I disagree. KYC doesn't guarantee security to be honest with you. If hackers hack into the site, they could easily acquire your KYC details and spread it wherever they want to which could screw you in various ways.

Personally, I didn't provide my KYC yet in any crypto gambling site that I gamble in and I have withdrawn thousands of dollars so far without any issues.
At least having KYC can make me believe that even their casino can prove its authenticity and has a license that aims to obtain a legal permit for the casino so that it can further minimize acts of fraud or fraud committed by the casino.
Regarding security against hacking, indeed KYC cannot be a guarantee of security. However, if the casino that we use is a big and well-known casino, then it is very rare for a hack to occur because they clearly have a team that is responsible for security and provides protection on all website address devices so that it's not easy for someone to hack their casino and I'm sure casino owners are willing to spend big money to hire people who are truly experts in the field of security to keep their casino business running.
After all, most of the well-known and well-established casinos definitely impose KYC on their every use.

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Since 2019, Offers on chain/off chain betting. Spin your luck in Jackpot for 0.1 Hive. Native token called 'Gamer', staking it makes you eligible for 50% casino profits, can bet with Hive, Steem, Dec (Splinterlands currency) and Gamer. Plenty games including Dice, Blackjack, Video pocker, crash, roulette, slots, plinko.  Auto bet also available for applicable games.
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Maybe i am missing something but i can't find any info about this "Gamer" token. No tokenomics, not even info how can i buy it or should i mine it somehow?
But without tokenomics how would i even know is it worth to mine it as supply can be unlimited for all i can tell.
Site looks good though. Sleek minimalistic graphics so points for that.

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Since 2019, Offers on chain/off chain betting. Spin your luck in Jackpot for 0.1 Hive. Native token called 'Gamer', staking it makes you eligible for 50% casino profits, can bet with Hive, Steem, Dec (Splinterlands currency) and Gamer. Plenty games including Dice, Blackjack, Video pocker, crash, roulette, slots, plinko.  Auto bet also available for applicable games.
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Maybe i am missing something but i can't find any info about this "Gamer" token. No tokenomics, not even info how can i buy it or should i mine it somehow?
But without tokenomics how would i even know is it worth to mine it as supply can be unlimited for all i can tell.
Site looks good though. Sleek minimalistic graphics so points for that.
Perhaps do I --but It is understandable to feel hesitant about investing in a token when there is a lack of information available about its tokenomics and acquisition methods. Without knowing the tokenomics, it is difficult to assess the potential value of the token and make an informed decision on whether or not to invest in it. Perhaps it is good to reach out to the team behind the "Gamer" token and ask for more information about its tokenomics and how to acquire it. They may be able to provide more information that could help you make a decision about whether or not to invest.









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Since 2019, Offers on chain/off chain betting. Spin your luck in Jackpot for 0.1 Hive. Native token called 'Gamer', staking it makes you eligible for 50% casino profits, can bet with Hive, Steem, Dec (Splinterlands currency) and Gamer. Plenty games including Dice, Blackjack, Video pocker, crash, roulette, slots, plinko.  Auto bet also available for applicable games.
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Maybe i am missing something but i can't find any info about this "Gamer" token. No tokenomics, not even info how can i buy it or should i mine it somehow?
But without tokenomics how would i even know is it worth to mine it as supply can be unlimited for all i can tell.
Site looks good though. Sleek minimalistic graphics so points for that.
Perhaps do I --but It is understandable to feel hesitant about investing in a token when there is a lack of information available about its tokenomics and acquisition methods. Without knowing the tokenomics, it is difficult to assess the potential value of the token and make an informed decision on whether or not to invest in it. Perhaps it is good to reach out to the team behind the "Gamer" token and ask for more information about its tokenomics and how to acquire it. They may be able to provide more information that could help you make a decision about whether or not to invest.
But like seriously, is this really something that one should be reaching out to the team for, a team that created a project and also developed a token to govern the project should already know the importance of tokenomics and also have it in mind to make this information public and accessible to every one including potential investors.

For me, I think its best to stay away from investing in a token like this, at least, until the team behind it begin showing some seriousness in ensuring that the project succeeds, this is because buying the token now, though cheap, is more risky as this project might end up as an abadoned project and those who bought the tokens now will end up loosing their money.

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March 03, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
 #99

Maybe i am missing something but i can't find any info about this "Gamer" token. No tokenomics, not even info how can i buy it or should i mine it somehow?
But without tokenomics how would i even know is it worth to mine it as supply can be unlimited for all i can tell.
Site looks good though. Sleek minimalistic graphics so points for that.

Check blog: https://hive.blog/@kryptogames

Nonetheless here are quick answers,

Gamer token info: https://hive.blog/steem/@kryptogames/kryptogamers-collaborates-with-steem-engine-upcoming-token-launch-details

You can mine gamer tokens by staying on top of leaderboard.

Exchange: https://leodex.io/market/GAMER

Perhaps do I --but It is understandable to feel hesitant about investing in a token when there is a lack of information available about its tokenomics and acquisition methods. Without knowing the tokenomics, it is difficult to assess the potential value of the token and make an informed decision on whether or not to invest in it. Perhaps it is good to reach out to the team behind the "Gamer" token and ask for more information about its tokenomics and how to acquire it. They may be able to provide more information that could help you make a decision about whether or not to invest.

Op has literally link to official blog where you could check all details, also mentioned on site dashboard >> Gamer Tokens.

But like seriously, is this really something that one should be reaching out to the team for, a team that created a project and also developed a token to govern the project should already know the importance of tokenomics and also have it in mind to make this information public and accessible to every one including potential investors.

Read the blog linked in op.

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March 03, 2023, 04:13:53 PM
 #100

Of course, no website is completely immune from hacking, am only disappointed that you guys are taking this as an excuse instead of looking elsewhere to the benefits of KYC.

If a website is new, my dear, you are talking 50/50 chance with them if they are without KYC. Because without it, it means they are not regulated. But you have higher rest of mind if they are truly regulated.
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