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January 26, 2023, 01:52:53 AM
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It certainly seems he did break his own rules however there is still a chance that all this will be cleared up and the OP of that thread will make the payment to the winner or better still he can clarify why he did what he did and then re-run the giveaway but announce beforehand how he intends to select a winner. As long as those things happen he can have credibility but the way it turned out it seems very inappropriate.

Someone suggested earlier this could have been an attempt to get merits and try to build up the account which for $50 would probably be worth it if he could get merits. Having said that, there is a chance this could all be a misunderstanding and could be resolved (but I have reservations).

You are close Smiley

Indeed, OP did not initially announce giveaway rules; he did it later, in the seventh post. Rolling was supposed to take place on Jan 24th. Yesterday (Jan 24th), OP asked how to proceed. A Ponzi promoter (so, obviously, not a trustworthy member) gave him an example of how to choose the winner by using a block's hash. In the given example, the winner was user 5tift. However, that was just an example!

OP did not understand that it was only an example (or simply ignored that) and announced 5tift as winner, although he (OP) broke his giveaway rules. And his giveaway rules were those stated in post #7, respective to have him or a trustworthy user make the rolling.

But, in our case: (1) he did not make any rolling; (2) no trustworthy user made any rolling; (3) there was actually no rolling at all, as what that Ponzi promoter said was just an example of how a rolling works.

Since then I don't know what happened, nor if OP actually paid the money to the fake winner. In any case, he broke his own rules.

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January 26, 2023, 02:37:56 PM
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It certainly seems he did break his own rules however there is still a chance that all this will be cleared up and the OP of that thread will make the payment to the winner or better still he can clarify why he did what he did and then re-run the giveaway but announce beforehand how he intends to select a winner. As long as those things happen he can have credibility but the way it turned out it seems very inappropriate.

The problem is that, so far, since the winner was announced, OP was not online anymore. I don't even know if he read what was written at the end of his topic (meaning the posts signaling that was he did is totally inappropriate). Besides, no matter the incompetent way he managed the giveaway, he also did not pay the prize to the (fake) winner. This is winner's address: 1MxqUhnCwuUwbc7Z1NhNTTGiVHJXBpurCi; I am constantly monitoring it since this user was declared as winner.

So there are higher chances for OP of being given negative feedback for not paying the prize than for poor management of the giveaway.

Someone suggested earlier this could have been an attempt to get merits and try to build up the account which for $50 would probably be worth it if he could get merits. Having said that, there is a chance this could all be a misunderstanding and could be resolved (but I have reservations).

Who knows... Maybe he expected the merits when he announced the winner and, seeing that he still does not receive any merit he decided to go offline, knowing that it's possible to have the account tagged? Anyway, let's wait for a few more days and see what happens meanwhile.

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January 26, 2023, 03:04:55 PM
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This is winner's address: 1MxqUhnCwuUwbc7Z1NhNTTGiVHJXBpurCi; I am constantly monitoring it since this user was declared as winner.

So there are higher chances for OP of being given negative feedback for not paying the prize than for poor management of the giveaway.
It does seem highly unlikely that address will be sent anything from the OP of the giveaway thread since he was never really active in the forum and has no need to pay or re-run the the giveaway for the sake of transparency.

Does anyone still strongly believe that this is really a newbie who is giving away money in a simple lottery? Every day it becomes more and more clear that this is a farmer who already once deceived and did not pay the prize and now decided to repeat the same trick. There will be no payouts, he will simply disappear and someday create a new account. I wonder if he will also try to run another crappy lottery from the new account? Cheesy
I do have very strong suspicions that he was part of a farmed account and that account was used to test to see if merits could be given for the sake of the giveaway. In the end I believe he received just one merit and now will most probably receive negative tags as his 24 hour deadline to pay the $50 has passed and he provided no explanation for the non-payment.

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January 30, 2023, 07:03:54 PM
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If the winner of that giveaway did not receive the funds and if the OP of that thread has not logged in since 24th January 2023 and has not honoured the promises that he made himself without anybody influencing him (namely he created a thread of his own accord with a $50 giveaway and selected a winner under dubious circumstances and promises to pay the prize in 24 hours), that should now constitute his account being tagged.

I have left appropriate feedback for Rbah for failing to pay the prize to the winner he selected in this thread $50 in BTC Giveaway

I am fairly sure Rbah was waiting for his account to be tagged before he logs back in to say that he was going to pay the prize but since his account has now been unfairly tagged he will not be paying the prize. We have waited a week and he has not shown up but if the account gets tagged he probably will unless the puppeteer controlling the account gave up because he received just 1 merit in exchange for a $50 trade and decided to keep the $50 thus losing the farmed Rbah account.

Having said the obvious, a week after he promised to pay the prize within 24 hours, it did not detract me from appropriately tagging the account.

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January 30, 2023, 08:25:37 PM
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Having said the obvious, a week after he promised to pay the prize within 24 hours, it did not detract me from appropriately tagging the account.

You did it before I did it  Grin

I was waiting for seven days to pass before tagging the user, thinking that 7 days are a decent time to wait. However, since you made first step I decided to make the second one, thus now Rbah has two negative feedbacks. Anyway, there are only a few hours until 7 days are met therefore it's okay to give him the feedback since now.

It's very possible for Rbah to be same with Mitch212. There are too many similarities between them. Anyway, this is less important. What matters is that users did not let themselves tricked anymore into jumping with merits on shady giveaway organizers. It seems that the lesson was learned.

(Of course, in case the organizer finally appears and offers a good reason for being online that much; in case he will also make an official rolling; in case he will also pay the prize -- then I will remove my feedback. But there are very small chances for this to happen.)

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January 30, 2023, 10:59:37 PM
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Really hard to tell if the giveaway is legit or not. I'm not sure either. That's why I haven't given merit yet. In november last year there was a $25 giveaway from a new user and the win was paid out, see here. So all we can really do is wait and see what will happen.  Roll Eyes

So far he only gets one merit for that contest, you made the right decision not giving him merit yet, but in case he didn't fulfill his promise instead of giving him merits, those who participate should tag him for questionable giveaways, giveaways should be above suspicion, what I like about that discussion is I get to discover this tool for fair giveaways created by bitmover https://bitcoindata.science/giveaway-manager/

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January 31, 2023, 12:53:16 AM
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Somebody had to do it first and after a significant amount of waiting I decided to leave appropriate feedback. When I read the OP of that thread, it was simply ridiculously worded and I have no idea why that many forum members decided to try to win the imaginary $50.

I hope the incident surrounding the fake giveaway will serve as a reminder to all members especially those that have been around the forum for several years that they should apply due-diligence and ask serious questions to any newbie OP. Maybe Rbah will return one day with an interesting story about why the winner was not sent their prize but until then at the very least the negative tag will remain.

You did it before I did it  Grin

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January 31, 2023, 03:25:50 AM
 #48

Somebody had to do it first and after a significant amount of waiting I decided to leave appropriate feedback. When I read the OP of that thread, it was simply ridiculously worded and I have no idea why that many forum members decided to try to win the imaginary $50.

Well, who isn't up for free stuff? Grin

If people could even be naive enough to download malware from impostors including newbie accounts rather than from the OP, not really surprising since all it takes is just to reveal a wallet address.

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January 31, 2023, 08:20:25 AM
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Hehe, considering what Bitcointalk has become and what it represents in the crypto space today, I am not surprised at what extent some persons will go just to gain reputation here for whatever reason, be it selfish and genuine..
The user mentioned in the op is clearly after something, he was indeed trying to gain good number of merits through that giveaway, which in turn will not only build his reputation, but will also enable him rank up.
Building his reputation means that he will easily gain trust from the forum members, which would enable him carry out his scam activities easily..
earning merit means he could rank up faster to enable him join signature campaigns to earn some buck.

what ever his ambitions were, be it good or bad, he came in through the back door, as far as I know, there is no shortcuts to good things in life, and as far as this forum is concerned, only scammers and those with evil intentions come in through the back door, and they are easily spotted and kicked, this is why Bitcointalk is not just another bitcoin forum, Bitcointalk is spectacular.

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