Basra Stadium Stampede (football match).

[gabbie2010]

I also think that this is more on the organizer's fault.  Their lapse on security resulted in these stampede.  they are blaming the ticketless when they have the authority to stop them and even put them in arrest.  With a strong security line up, I doubt this ticketless will do things they did that causes the stampede.  So I think organizers should always take priority of their client's lives, planning ahead and patching holes that can cause tragedy like this.  So for me it is the organizers poor crowd management and inadequate safety measures.

Security lapses could have been responsible for the sad event, I believe the security put in place by the organizer of the match were overhelmed by the huge number of fans particularly the ticketless fan which lead to the stampede probably they never envisage that the match will attract huge numbers of fans especially those fans the breached the security parameters, however the authority should set up a committee to unravel the cause of the stampede and ways to prevent a future occurrence and if possible sanction anyone culpable for the lost of lives.

[yazher]

As expected, when after the World Cup there will be more football fans will gonna become fanatics and the organizers miscalculated it, they just thought the next football match in their country would be the same as before the world cup but instead, they get these huge numbers of fans swarming just to get inside and in the end, many are hurts and some has perished. Thankfully, they were able to minimize the casualties because it could end really badly just like in the Indonesia stadium and they really need to learn from here to improve their services and not cause any harm anymore to the fans.

[Theones]

As expected, when after the World Cup there will be more football fans will gonna become fanatics and the organizers miscalculated it, they just thought the next football match in their country would be the same as before the world cup but instead, they get these huge numbers of fans swarming just to get inside and in the end, many are hurts and some has perished. Thankfully, they were able to minimize the casualties because it could end really badly just like in the Indonesia stadium and they really need to learn from here to improve their services and not cause any harm anymore to the fans.

That is so sad - the event like this brings the moral of the people - sometime the celebrations are turned into mourning. It is always good to have patience in every aspect of life.
May the lost soul rest in peace and the injured get recovered soon.

[rahmad2nd]

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Security lapses could have been responsible for the sad event, I believe the security put in place by the organizer of the match were overhelmed by the huge number of fans particularly the ticketless fan which lead to the stampede probably they never envisage that the match will attract huge numbers of fans especially those fans the breached the security parameters, however the authority should set up a committee to unravel the cause of the stampede and ways to prevent a future occurrence and if possible sanction anyone culpable for the lost of lives.

Like what happened in my country in the last few months. the Kanjuruhan riot claimed many victims, even the lives lost were estimated to exceed 130 people. something that is very heartbreaking, as a football lover I am very sad if there are still tragedies like this happening anywhere.

First of all who should take full responsibility is the organizers. why, because they do not have security standards that meet the standard requirements applied by FIFA and how to deal with them when there are riots like this. secondly, the lack of awareness of football fans from both sides. they knowingly tried to break into the stadium, despite not having tickets. this should not have happened if no one was behind this tragedy. the thing that needs to be addressed is, their safety standards. embracing FIFA could provide a solution to prevent incidents like this from happening again.

As was done in my country, the government took firm action and investigated the background that triggered the Kanjuruhan tragedy. temporarily freeze the league, punish the mastermind behind the action, hold the organizers accountable. plus, involving FIFA regarding security standards to deal with things like this in the future. I think the steps taken by my country can be followed by the football federations from both Iraq and Oman.

[Rabi3]

And my position here is, who's to be blamed in such situation just like this one at Basra stadium, Iraq. Is the fault from the side of the football fans or is due to poor organisation from the side of the organisers? 

i read that the stampede started when ticket collectors turned back fans who had been sold fake tickets by some scammers, if it's true i would say it's the fans fault, if you're ticket is fake you can't come in, and organisers can't prevent anything when a whole crowd decides to go nuts and break the rules.

[serjent05]

And my position here is, who's to be blamed in such situation just like this one at Basra stadium, Iraq. Is the fault from the side of the football fans or is due to poor organisation from the side of the organisers? 

i read that the stampede started when ticket collectors turned back fans who had been sold fake tickets by some scammers, if it's true i would say it's the fans fault, if you're ticket is fake you can't come in, and organisers can't prevent anything when a whole crowd decides to go nuts and break the rules.

If there is enough security, I do not think ticketless fans will overpower the security.  Besides the main job of security is to control the masses inside and outside the vicinity so having a group of aggressive people to overrun the situation means the security isn't capable.  Also, the organizer failed to size up the possible number of crowd  while the security fail to identify the process of the situation not getting under their control.

[Vaskiy]

And my position here is, who's to be blamed in such situation just like this one at Basra stadium, Iraq. Is the fault from the side of the football fans or is due to poor organisation from the side of the organisers? 

i read that the stampede started when ticket collectors turned back fans who had been sold fake tickets by some scammers, if it's true i would say it's the fans fault, if you're ticket is fake you can't come in, and organisers can't prevent anything when a whole crowd decides to go nuts and break the rules.

If there is enough security, I do not think ticketless fans will overpower the security.  Besides the main job of security is to control the masses inside and outside the vicinity so having a group of aggressive people to overrun the situation means the security isn't capable.  Also, the organizer failed to size up the possible number of crowd  while the security fail to identify the process of the situation not getting under their control.

There might be lack of security as well as corruption as fake tickets were into circulation. After a long this is a bad incident, also people can't be controlled beyond limits when there is no proper planning. The security system will be at the ratio of 2:50 which isn't enough to handle pressure situation.

[harapan]

Should be more on the organizer's fault because they should have anticipated that there will be fans who will really try and force to get in even though they don't have tickets. Beef up the security around the perimeter and tighten up entry points to make sure that they will not be able to get inside the stadium. Pretty sure they already realized that there are a lot of football fans in the area that would really love to watch the game, so maybe they could have set up large viewing screens outside of the stadiums too. What a sad day for Iraq and Oman, especially to those families of the dead.

You cant blame the organizers alone for situations like this. Yea I agree they could have had more security and screens outside but why would people want to force themselves into a stadium when they know fully well that they don't have the match ticket? Its absurd. I don't know what is wrong with people. Life is not so complicated but we make it so difficult. Just stay at home and watch the game or go to a pub or something. If you really love your team and you want to show more support then buy the match ticket. Its almost like they go there and cause trouble, hoping for a stampede to happen so they can sneak in amidst the chaos. I hate hearing news like this because it something that could be absolutely avoided which is very sad.

[AmoreJaz]

Should be more on the organizer's fault because they should have anticipated that there will be fans who will really try and force to get in even though they don't have tickets. Beef up the security around the perimeter and tighten up entry points to make sure that they will not be able to get inside the stadium. Pretty sure they already realized that there are a lot of football fans in the area that would really love to watch the game, so maybe they could have set up large viewing screens outside of the stadiums too. What a sad day for Iraq and Oman, especially to those families of the dead.

You cant blame the organizers alone for situations like this. Yea I agree they could have had more security and screens outside but why would people want to force themselves into a stadium when they know fully well that they don't have the match ticket? Its absurd. I don't know what is wrong with people. Life is not so complicated but we make it so difficult. Just stay at home and watch the game or go to a pub or something. If you really love your team and you want to show more support then buy the match ticket. Its almost like they go there and cause trouble, hoping for a stampede to happen so they can sneak in amidst the chaos. I hate hearing news like this because it something that could be absolutely avoided which is very sad.

considering the number of ticketless fans vs the authorities, they are greatly outnumbered. they can only do so much in situations like this. so the safety lies on the fan himself. is he going to subject himself to the messy and chaotic crowd where stampede is always possible? think of yourself first before entering in a crowded event. no one can truly take care of your safety but yourself.

[Silberman]

You cant blame the organizers alone for situations like this. Yea I agree they could have had more security and screens outside but why would people want to force themselves into a stadium when they know fully well that they don't have the match ticket? Its absurd. I don't know what is wrong with people. Life is not so complicated but we make it so difficult. Just stay at home and watch the game or go to a pub or something. If you really love your team and you want to show more support then buy the match ticket. Its almost like they go there and cause trouble, hoping for a stampede to happen so they can sneak in amidst the chaos. I hate hearing news like this because it something that could be absolutely avoided which is very sad.

considering the number of ticketless fans vs the authorities, they are greatly outnumbered. they can only do so much in situations like this. so the safety lies on the fan himself. is he going to subject himself to the messy and chaotic crowd where stampede is always possible? think of yourself first before entering in a crowded event. no one can truly take care of your safety but yourself.

It is true that during a critical juncture you depend completely on yourself and no one else, however organizing a large event is way more complex than just accepting payment for the tickets, organizing massive events requires that a series of steps are followed, and if this cannot be done then a change of venue or playing without spectators must be done, neither of those options were followed as the organizers thought they could deal with the rowdy fans, only to find out too late they could not do it.