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March 01, 2023, 10:28:18 AM
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I have tested ChatGPT for a few weeks and can say the following. I think in the very near future, at least 50% (this is a conservative estimate, possibly 80%) of white-collar workers working in commercial structures will have problems finding employment.

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I agree with your personal point of view. AI and machine learning technologies can really automate certain tasks and improve the productivity, I think they cannot fully replace human skills and creativity. There will always be a need for human touch in areas such as decision-making, problem solving, and interpersonal communication. However, it is true that some jobs may become redundant because of the AI automation, but new job opportunities may also emerge as a result of technological advancements.

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May 16, 2023, 04:29:54 AM
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I'm personally skeptical on the ability of machine learning/neural networks to fully replace humans. I think it's more likely that it will boost productivity by performing the more simple and routine tasks, but there will still be the need for human touch.
If that's skeptical, I'm well beyond that point--if AI ever gets to the point where it can actually replace human beings in the workplace, capitalism is going to be completely redefined.  Probably corporations will have to pay an enormously high tax rate in order to support all the people unable to find jobs, which means bigger government and a world moving closer toward George Orwell's dystopian vision (though we're damn close to that already).

It's either that or Terminators start coming back from the future to kill Skynet in the crib.  But you know what?  By the time that happens, I'll have done that whole dust-to-dust thing and won't have to worry about it.  My condolences to future generations; technology really has given you an ass-reaming, even if the current generations haven't realized it yet.

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May 16, 2023, 08:44:33 AM
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Participated in the testing of Chat-GPT in the early stages. And I have been using it for a long time (in relation to the history of this decision).
My personal opinion:
- Very cool assistant
- Gorgeous knowledge base with user-friendly human interface
- Sometimes a kind of creativity in creative tasks Smiley Probably everyone remembers about "salmon in the river" Smiley
- Helps to solve simple and intermediate level problems.
- I would not trust him with responsible decisions Smiley
- However, I'm not sure what can be allowed, for example, to engage in the complex development of a large project. My area is IT, and here he is, well, to put it mildly, not a "star" everywhere.
Although it is possible that when it becomes exactly Artificial Intelligence, the situation will change - unfortunately, here the human brain loses in terms of learning speed and the ability to process mega-volumes of various data...

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May 16, 2023, 08:50:18 AM
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- However, I'm not sure what can be allowed, for example, to engage in the complex development of a large project. My area is IT, and here he is, well, to put it mildly, not a "star" everywhere.

Most companies have strict information secrecy rules put in place that prevents employees from sending confidential company data to 3rd-party servers. Since ChatGPT is trained on some of the questions you asked it, that means it could potentially leak intellectual property secrets, which is why places like Samsung have already banned its use internally - and also why white-collar jobs aren't in immediate danger (the blue collar jobs though, I would be more worried for them as even automation can make them redundant).

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May 16, 2023, 09:13:13 AM
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I recently read a document that claims to be a leaked internal Google document called "We Have No Moat, And Neither Does OpenAI". I can't be sure of its authenticity, but I found the content to be quite interesting.

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May 16, 2023, 01:11:50 PM
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I'm personally skeptical on the ability of machine learning/neural networks to fully replace humans. I think it's more likely that it will boost productivity by performing the more simple and routine tasks, but there will still be the need for human touch. People will lose jobs because now a professional will be able to do the work of 2 professionals, but AI won't do the work of all professionals.

We can point out AI's limitations and we cannot underestimate the capacity and capability of human to get the job done, the developers of these AIs' are not meant to replace human, they developed AI to be a tool to help human makes their job easier and simplified.

It just happens that AI works perfectly because humans aspire to create a perfect tool and because of that perfection, we think that AI will replace humans.

I don't want to think that we are going to be in Terminator-like scenarios, because AI is still limited, Thee AI cannot create AI they will never become creators of another AI and they should not be programmed to create another AI, because a human has insight that we called hunch or intuition while AI just relies on data.


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May 16, 2023, 03:11:21 PM
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Last week I had a conversation with a teacher about the story of human progress. And this almost helped me change my view of many tools in life, about the content of the story about the fact that in the past people did not have many modern means of transportation, instead used Using traction from cattle or walking was the way to go, but with the advent of bicycles, motorbikes, cars, trains, ships, and planes, transportation became easier, and when the advent of the internet made connecting and sharing information very quickly. And I understand that the emergence of AI and its wonderful applications in work is really effective to help people run their lives more quickly, instead of being afraid that it will replace people in the workplace in some areas, learn how to use and control it.









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May 16, 2023, 05:06:37 PM
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That’s not even a valid statement anyways. There is no way AI will replace entire job line. Who would do the dirty jobs, who will replace the oil rig suction assembly, or who will manufacture the chips required to run the computers? AI won’t be able to do everything so let it be. The whole discussion is pointless. Just to add, I remembered Elon talking about AI being dangerous than nukes or something, why would he say it OR what’s that he knows that we don’t know. I still don’t believe that statement by the way.
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May 16, 2023, 05:31:52 PM
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AI is good, it works faster and cheaper and you can modify it on each layer which gives a wide range of features, Consider Chatgpt you can do literally as many things as you want with it. For example, I got a University Project importing data to Teradata and the data was quite big at least n my scale and there was a restriction it should be imported by manual process,

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So simple I just copied data and created queries and modified text with a few commands rest of the importing process was easy as the main work was managing and modifying the data as columns names, tables, etc. It took some time but worked for me. I will say that it's like fast food AI is good. But it's not much impressive because the currency efficiency level is limited as I said I also modified data with ChatGPT but out of 5 commands it works well with only 1 or 2 commands. It gives pretty average results currently I think white-collar jobs had no issue with AI for the future I am not sure.

Future targets of AI can be, but currently they are safe around 80% in my views.

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May 16, 2023, 05:53:12 PM
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Saw this on a tiktok vid (I know lmao, way of a source to rely upon yeah?) but there is an optimistic approach to this scenario.

Soon as AI takes over all of our menial work, of course everyone's going to be unemployed and utter chaos will ensue as people will rush to break every bot they see, as if that's gonna solve the crisis. However, after the fog clears, governments around the world, left with no choice since everyone's unemployed and people have to be fed somehow, will establish the coveted, the long-awaited, Universal Basic Income. People will be paid for doing things that they like (free money) and this will uplift the standard of living everywhere. This also means that everyone can focus more on things that would advance the civilization's status, like solving starvation for areas that are far-reaching, providing healthcare, all that kind of stuff. It's a little unrealistic to some but I can see this happening. Tell me your thoughts.

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I'm personally skeptical on the ability of machine learning/neural networks to fully replace humans. I think it's more likely that it will boost productivity by performing the more simple and routine tasks, but there will still be the need for human touch. People will lose jobs because now a professional will be able to do the work of 2 professionals, but AI won't do the work of all professionals.

We can point out AI's limitations and we cannot underestimate the capacity and capability of human to get the job done, the developers of these AIs' are not meant to replace human, they developed AI to be a tool to help human makes their job easier and simplified.

It just happens that AI works perfectly because humans aspire to create a perfect tool and because of that perfection, we think that AI will replace humans.

I don't want to think that we are going to be in Terminator-like scenarios, because AI is still limited, Thee AI cannot create AI they will never become creators of another AI and they should not be programmed to create another AI, because a human has insight that we called hunch or intuition while AI just relies on data.
We can't discount the magic of human ingenuity, and AI certainly has its flaws. Artificial intelligence was created by nerds in order to serve as a useful tool, not to steal the spotlight from us. Having him as our wingman has made everything easier. Don't get any Terminator ideas in your head. Artificial intelligence is capable, to be sure, but it won't start creating duplicates of itself any time soon. That's like hoping a microwave to produce a three-star meal: not gonna happen!

Our intuition is like a radar amid the fog of uncertainty; it's a superpower only humans possess. AI, bless its circuitry, is data-driven to a fault and lacks the creative flair that humans bring to the table. Let's toast the human-AI tag team, which allows us to reap the benefits of artificial intelligence's brute might while continuing to astound with our ingenuity, adaptability, and gut intuition.

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May 17, 2023, 03:22:10 PM
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- However, I'm not sure what can be allowed, for example, to engage in the complex development of a large project. My area is IT, and here he is, well, to put it mildly, not a "star" everywhere.

Most companies have strict information secrecy rules put in place that prevents employees from sending confidential company data to 3rd-party servers. Since ChatGPT is trained on some of the questions you asked it, that means it could potentially leak intellectual property secrets, which is why places like Samsung have already banned its use internally - and also why white-collar jobs aren't in immediate danger ( the blue collar jobs though, I would be more worried for them as even automation can make them redundant).

This issue is not "discussed" at all, because REQUESTS (with partial data) and answers to them are on the "other side", and we do not know how their storage and post-processing is ensured! This one is like a "problem" of working with a search engine - you send a request to it, and then you start to be haunted by advertising that you are somewhere when you asked, and maybe even as a joke Smiley

But I had in mind a slightly different nuance: I already wrote that this system can hardly be called a full-fledged intelligence. This is an intellectual superstructure over a huge knowledge base, systematized and collected knowledge and data. But this does not guarantee, for example, writing error-free code, for example, to control a nuclear power plant, or an aircraft! Yes, the system writes simple code quite well, and for example for Python - in compliance with all PEP XXX, but this is an application where errors are not critical.

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May 17, 2023, 03:48:10 PM
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And I understand that the emergence of AI and its wonderful applications in work is really effective to help people run their lives more quickly, instead of being afraid that it will replace people in the workplace in some areas, learn how to use and control it.
Corps does not give a crap about control and the limit of how can they use AI. They'll use it whatever they want as the end user. If it means by saving money for the company and not needing of people working on it, they would use it over and over.
That's what AI is for anyway. People say that it's to ease the process of something that's normally done manual, but they forgot that it kinda cuts the job for people on whatever industry they're specializing.

Quite ironic that programmers (well even me), are working our asses off to lead ourselves out of our own job through automation.

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I kinda have mixed feelings for this. Sure, it would kind of help those unemployed survive since they can afford their basic needs but knowing that it isn't the same as before where luxury is also part that you can spend your money at.
Just my rough upfront feeling. I never heard of this UBI before.
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