Although you seem biased to defend the scammer, I will try to answer you point by point.
Yes this is an alt account
I think that everybody could see that, since this is your very fist post.
from what I'm seing having a beef with GazetaBitcoin is enough enough to be marked as a scammer and Trust to be nuked
You are entitling me with a power which I don't have, never had and, most likely, never will have.
no I am not saxydev, though I am from the same region as him and OP
I also noticed that you are not him, since your English is way better than his.
Saxydevs aml service: While it's unethical ( assuming he has access to some free tools which are probably available to anyone with a thorough search on the internet) how does it actually qualify as a scam?
My answer is the following:
1. First of all, the title of this thread says his is a "
possible scammer", not a scammer
2. First sentence of this thread says again the same syntagma: "I'd like to raise awareness about a
possible Romanian scammer"
3. Checking money in Romania is illegal. As I told him too (in
post 10), if you are unsure, go yourself to ANAF and tell the inspectors there you are doing what saxydev does. If you'll do that I also suggest you to bring a suitcase with some cloths and basic needs as it's possible to not return home for a long time.
4. Speaking at large, many Romanians are focused on
pilfering. Do you know what pilfering is? "Gainarie" -- there, you know now. Most of those which are looking for pilfering are also illiterate, underclassmen and, as their intellect did not allow them to follow a proper education (finish high school, go to a college, get a good job), many of them become interested in earning money in a easy way, doing various small thefts and so on. Being Romanian, I believe you know this pattern. Many of them are Gypsies, but there are also Romanians sharing same behavior. Some of them managed somehow to learn a bit about technology and Bitcoin and ended up here, looking for online victims.
Since I came on this forum I also found other Romanians looking for pilfering:
andulolika and
bekli23. Do you know them? Both are illiterate; both are underclassmen (look at how they type in Romanian and English); both are shady; both try to earn a buck from those which are naive enough to pay them.
andulolika was offering translation services, while he was unable even to spell his name (and after he made death threats on the forum and self admitted he is a ban evader), while bekli23 (which has a topic dedicated to him inside Investigations board) was claiming that he can decrypt any Bitcoin wallet or that he moved ("offline", according to him) the coins generated by Bitcoin's genesis block (which are technically not movable).
So each of these guys are trying to catch a fish, with various idiocies. saxydev is just like them: he is selling for money a service which can be accessed for free on Internet and which is also illegal. But, considering his pattern, I said he is a
possible scammer (in the end he showed his real character and actually exposed himself as a scammer).
To conclude, while his shitty business did not automatically mean he
is a scammer, his kind of being (which is very often found in Romania) made me raise an alarm about this guy. The topic was for raising an alarm. What happened later -- meaning the way he exposed himself as a
true scammer, that's another story. But the topic was created for making people aware that he
could be a scammer.
Saxydevs shill of Pi token
His shills toward Pi have nothing in common with our subject. The reference I made in OP was solely for mentioning another example of where he showed how illiterate he is and what monumental stupidities he is able to write.
Regarding the Flag, it seems that while he initially said yes, after 20 minutes he went back on it, and said "no deal", so how exactly does that constitute as a broken contract when the other party of the "agreement" didn't come forward between those 20 minutes.
I will explain.
Are you basically saying that for example, I decided to buy a car, I call the dealership and tell them I'll buy X car, then I change my mind call them back and say I won't anymore, that I'm liable for it? That I've broken a contract and the dealership expects me to pay the amount regardless?
Now read again the highlighted part.
Do you sense the difference between "
tell" and
sign (n.b. sign the deal)?
Verba volant, scripta manent. You are showing as a counter-example a situation where you
say some words out of your mouth and you compare that with signing an agreement?
Obviously, if you
say on the phone to a car dealer that you want a car and then you call back and say you changed your mind, nothing will happen. That's because you did not sign anything. However, if you would have signed a paper with the dealer, the verbal cancellation could not occur. Or, at least not so easy. Maybe you could still cancel after you signed, but you would pay a penalty anyway, as a cancellation policy.
Furthermore, if the call would be recorded, in this hypothetical case of yours, then your "
yes" would have the power of a signed agreement and again, you would not be able to cancel anymore (or you'd pay a cancellation policy).
So, as you see, even in your case (which is
not saxydev's case), even just by "
telling" you'd be in same situation.
Coming back to our case, saxydev and dkbit had no cancellation policy. However, since the deal was made based on
mutual agreement of the two parties, it's common sense that
it's cancellation would have also to imply both parties and not allow a unilateral cancelling. And, since dkbit98 did
not agree with the cancelling proposal of saxydev,
this implied that the deal was still valid. Does this make sense?
Now regarding GazetaBitcoin, I've honestly always considered you to be one of the highest standing members of the bitcointalk community (at least in the Romanian section) and have always followed your articles/interviews
Thanks, I appreciate.
this is simply dissapointing, you've established an online image here, and presence, and honestly you should do better! Saying things like " Based on his IQ, which is a number lower than the one of his shoe size" or "He just writes idiotic stuff and, together with his level of very low education reminds me a lot of another Romanian imbecile".
I am sorry for disappointing you. You should know though, while saxydev
swore at me, I
merely used a medical term for describing his condition. If you'll make some research, you'll find out that
imbecility is a medical condition, not a libel. Regarding the low education of saxydev, or my statements about him being an illiterate -- just watch how he types; it's visible from the Moon. About my statement that he is an underclassman -- I admit, it's only a supposition. However, from the way he types I would bet that he is not a Ph.D. Feel free to think the opposite, though.
NewsletterBitcoin fuck off
Fuck off, you are just an idiot dear NewsletterBitcoin.
Well mr. NewsletterBitcoin fuck off.
you are the mf'er.
Perhaps you see him very well educated, uhm?
While you ended your OP with: Although I have no clear evidence that he is a scammer, you also stated in the same OP "the scammer is willing to make deals only through PMs or Discord, not in plain sight." or "the scammer alleges that he has thousands of BTC, ETH and TRX addresses" so which is it, wasn't the Scam Accusations thread supposed to be a place for actual scams !?
Pardon me for not repeating everywhere the term "
possible" in front of "scammer".
so which is it
Apparently, "scammer" is the correct term, since he scammed dkbit98 soon after I initiated this topic.
Isn't the whole format there for a reason? Amount Scammed, Payment Option, Proof of payment, Pm, Chat logs?
Thanks for the reminder. I will update OP with the amount scammed of 0.1 BTC.
Later edit: just did it. OP title is also updated accordingly, in order to properly reflect the situation.
Why isn't this thread in the Reputation sector of the forum, where you could have actually made a case regarding this, supposedly without the "low iq, low education" and actually do a proper analisys as you're well known for on this forum?
The thread doesn't belong to Reputation, as it's dedicated to someone which was believed to be a "
possible scammer" and which later became a "
real scammer".
Most dissapointing aspect, why did most of the higher trusted members participating in this thread didn't call out OP on this
Probably I bribed them all. Most likely, I bribed dkbit98 as well, for him to create the flag and also to lure poor and naive saxydev with that appealing offer, making sure saxydev will bite the bait?
is this how the Trust system should work?
Yes, like a mafia. For more information, feel free to talk to wolwoo. He was first who exposed this:
How the flag system is intended to work?
I placed a screenshot above, perhaps you missed. Let me help you out:
In this case, the damage consists in 0.1 BTC which dkbit98 did not receive from the other party, although he was entitled to receive this amount. dkbit98
was scammed by saxydev.
Do you see the highlight from the screenshot? There is the key for your question.
Why did no one other than Loyce question it?
I would not dare to speak instead of LV but, however, I believe that he did not understand the whole case from the beginning and he understood it when he said this:
I thought of it as a bet, but you're right, it was an offer.
OP: You might want to reconsider your standing and general image when you feel it's appropiate to call someone "a very low level of education" and "low iq". Since you are/were one of the most respected members here, you should do better!
Thank you for the compliments, but you tell me: how would
you call someone unable to barely spell his name? A cultivated genius?
I hope I answered to all your claims. If I missed any, let me know.
