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February 05, 2023, 06:48:53 PM
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Actually it is not all 2048 since these hackers use machine learning to get the most common phrases narrowed down and word count of seed phrases also narrowed down due to previous successful iterations. And these guys simply run their programs continuously 24/7.  As I said earlier these programs are fully automated so it will keep trying on seed phrases till they hit a wallet with a balance and then it's game over for the user.

Tell me you don't know about seed phrases and machine learning without telling me you don't know about seed phrases and machine learning.

I have already suggested you try to comprehend what seed phrases are all about, but it seems you don't even have any willingness to understand them. You can simply search with the keyword "seed phrase brute force", and there will be a ton of information about how it can't be brute forced, with the current technological capability and other supporting examples. Nevertheless, I am completely sure you won't believe it since you are lacking a basic sense of how cryptocurrency, especially the wallet, works.
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February 06, 2023, 11:56:30 AM
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Actually it is not all 2048 since these hackers use machine learning to get the most common phrases narrowed down and word count of seed phrases also narrowed down due to previous successful iterations. And these guys simply run their programs continuously 24/7.  As I said earlier these programs are fully automated so it will keep trying on seed phrases till they hit a wallet with a balance and then it's game over for the user.

Tell me you don't know about seed phrases and machine learning without telling me you don't know about seed phrases and machine learning.

I have already suggested you try to comprehend what seed phrases are all about, but it seems you don't even have any willingness to understand them. You can simply search with the keyword "seed phrase brute force", and there will be a ton of information about how it can't be brute forced, with the current technological capability and other supporting examples. Nevertheless, I am completely sure you won't believe it since you are lacking a basic sense of how cryptocurrency, especially the wallet, works.

This is what google also says "The hacker can use your seed phrase to create a new wallet that accesses your funds."

What you are stating is if a hacker deliberately targets you and then try to crack your seed phrase, this is not what I am talking about and is not what these people are doing(since it would take too long). What these people do is simply randomly try all possible seed phrases automatically till they land on one which has a balance on the wallet. So it can be anyones wallet they don't care and simply go on collecting balances. Thus eventually it can be your wallet too.

Random online reference as well;
And they talk how long it takes to get all 2048^24 variations.

When in really it also may take 1 sec and by luck someone can get access to wallet with balance.

P.S. Developer from trezor one said that an average pc can make 480 million possibilities in 24 hours.

I just wonder how much an eth mining farm can do in 1 year.

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I got 8 random account without automatisation process... You just have to search in a restrained dictionnary and it'll work ...

so are you going to wish on luck to protect your hard earned money? since it doesn't matter how many variations there is going to be if it is static someone will get it and as I said earlier there is no recourse for your funds.

So please let us find a proper wallet with support for chains like TRC 20, SOL etc which have low gas fees and 2FA auth codes to restore wallet
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February 06, 2023, 05:39:25 PM
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All computers in the worlds combined are extremely unlikely to find it, even if they keep running for 10 years. Oh, wait, even the whole computer in the world also has minuscule power computation and is inefficient to brute force a cryptocurrency wallet.

The reason why BIP39 is widely used in the cryptocurrency industry is that it is considered secure. For your information, BIP39 is the mechanism of wallet generation.

The English-language wordlist for the BIP39 standard has 2048 words, so if the phrase contained only 12 random words, the number of possible combinations would be 2048^12 = 2^132 and the phrase would have 132 bits of security. However, some of the data in a BIP39 phrase is not random,[2] so the actual security of a 12-word BIP39 seed phrase is only 128 bits. This is approximately the same strength as all Bitcoin private keys, so most experts consider it to be sufficiently secure.[3]


What you are stating is if a hacker deliberately targets you and then try to crack your seed phrase, this is not what I am talking about and is not what these people are doing(since it would take too long).

Either scenario has a near-zero rate of success. That is why I point it out.

Here is the thing, Electrum supports 2FA, but I don't know if there is any for an altcoin. It is uncommon for a non-custodial wallet to implement 2FA. By that aspect, you should have known better that there is a reason most wallet does not implement it.
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April 17, 2023, 07:49:46 PM
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Since I understand you may have a false sense of safety based on assumed computational power required and luck please see here actual proof of malicious parties literally running a saas with bring your own wallet address list so they will crack them and split profits no upfront investment so imagine how big the threat is.

https://imgur.com/Vyjosen

Oh yeah and incase anyone here think those guys can't suceed and selling snake oil I checked and lots of unethical clients of theirs were successful in getting their ill gotten gains and proud to display screenshots and feedback too.

So now I am looking for seedless wallets for laptop that support the main chains like usdt, dai, usdc, trc, bnb etc
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January 04, 2024, 01:29:59 PM
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Adding to this got this email from an email spammer landing on my inbox;

And what do you know guys just what I described these guys are doing as a service and look at their ad copy so crypto space needs better security than phrases to move towards keyless/phraseless non custodial wallet development;

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Run the program and wait, and in order to increase your chances, install the program on all computers available to you, at work, with your friends, with your relatives, you can also ask your classmates to use the program, so your chances will increase tenfold!
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January 04, 2024, 05:17:58 PM
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Myetherwallet could serve your purpose. It's a non custodial wallet and supports USDT on many networks.
USDT (Tether) is a ERC token to start with so it doesn't have its own blockchain, the preferred non-custodial wallet to hold ERC tokens is metamask.
If Ethereum is costly to operate with, than USDT on BSC and Polygon could be a good alternative, both of the network are supported by metamask. Other alternative for metamask could be myetherwallet or Trust wallet.

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January 04, 2024, 06:55:39 PM
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Adding to this got this email from an email spammer landing on my inbox;

And what do you know guys just what I described these guys are doing as a service and look at their ad copy so crypto space needs better security than phrases to move towards keyless/phraseless non custodial wallet development;

Scammers don't care what kind of wallet you use - they just want to trick you into handing over your keys or personal info somehow.  If you click on a shady link or open a weird attachment, you could still lose everything even with one of those fancy new wallets. 

The only real protection is watching out for the usual red flags and never clicking on random links or downloads from strangers.  You've also got to be careful what details you put out there online.  And I dont care how legit a site looks, never, ever enter your private keys/seed phrases online.

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January 04, 2024, 07:38:06 PM
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Myetherwallet could serve your purpose. It's a non custodial wallet and supports USDT on many networks.
USDT (Tether) is a ERC token to start with so it doesn't have its own blockchain, the preferred non-custodial wallet to hold ERC tokens is metamask.
If Ethereum is costly to operate with, than USDT on BSC and Polygon could be a good alternative, both of the network are supported by metamask. Other alternative for metamask could be myetherwallet or Trust wallet.

There are plenty of wallet for that but i don't think that my etherwallet supports multichain functionality. As there are a growing number of EVM-compatible blockchains and people are using different types of blockchain to move their assets, I think using a multi-blockchain wallet like Metamask is a good option. Users can add a custom network over there and in most cases non custodial wallets don't support custom network integration. Most of the time we use a browser to use crypto apps so using an extension is always the most convenient option.
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