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March 25, 2023, 07:30:02 PM
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How naive a person needs to be to hope that the tax office of another country will not notice the purchase of real estate by a foreign citizen and will not ask his source of financing.
Georgia is a very good country with a good climate, but in order to live there, you need to take into account many nuances. Therefore, I always advise legalizing income through a business in your country.

If they allow foreigners to purchase properties, then don't have any interest in checking how did they get the funds, as any taxes would be payable in other jurisdictions anyway, so nothing to gain for them.
Not to mention they don't have any authority to launch any routine investigations in foreign countries, so even if they asked you for the source of funds, they'd probably accept any answer. So not sure how do you imagine the process would look like? Do you think they'd auto-appoint a financial forensic investigator for every house sale?
Again, we're talking about purchasing with fiat with a fiat bank transfer from abroad.
Between the countries there are treaties on tax control. Nobody will prevent you from buying a house or other real estate, because you are making investments in the country.
And after the purchase, the tax office has several years or more to check the legality of your funds with which you bought the house.
If there is no such procedure today, this does not mean that next year it will be the same.

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March 25, 2023, 07:42:13 PM
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The OP did not mention where he is from due to the fact that tax laws differ by country, and non-residents may still be required to pay taxes on income earned foreign land even if they are not residents. In many countries, there are tax treaties that prevent double taxation, which means that, depending on the details of the tax treaty, someone who earns income in one country but resides in another country may still be required to pay taxes in both countries.
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March 27, 2023, 10:49:51 PM
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How naive a person needs to be to hope that the tax office of another country will not notice the purchase of real estate by a foreign citizen and will not ask his source of financing.
Georgia is a very good country with a good climate, but in order to live there, you need to take into account many nuances. Therefore, I always advise legalizing income through a business in your country.

If they allow foreigners to purchase properties, then don't have any interest in checking how did they get the funds, as any taxes would be payable in other jurisdictions anyway, so nothing to gain for them.
Not to mention they don't have any authority to launch any routine investigations in foreign countries, so even if they asked you for the source of funds, they'd probably accept any answer. So not sure how do you imagine the process would look like? Do you think they'd auto-appoint a financial forensic investigator for every house sale?
Again, we're talking about purchasing with fiat with a fiat bank transfer from abroad.
Between the countries there are treaties on tax control. Nobody will prevent you from buying a house or other real estate, because you are making investments in the country.
And after the purchase, the tax office has several years or more to check the legality of your funds with which you bought the house.
If there is no such procedure today, this does not mean that next year it will be the same.

Fair enough, but was a bit puzzled when you called me "naive" for writing what you essentially wrote yourself: the country you're buying property in, is unlikely to prevent you from doing that as you're pumping money into their economy. If anyone was to launch any investigation, usually some sort of red flag would have to be triggered and I'm guessing the country doing the investigation would most likely to be a country of your tax residence.

In many countries, there are tax treaties that prevent double taxation, which means that, depending on the details of the tax treaty, someone who earns income in one country but resides in another country may still be required to pay taxes in both countries.


Preventing double taxation would mean you'd only be taxed by one country (in regard to personal income tax), e.g. your country of tax residency could let you deduct any taxes paid on your property owned in a foreign country.

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March 28, 2023, 06:29:49 AM
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Say if someone owns 10 Bitcoins which is not declared and government doesn't know about it (earned/mined etc but did not buy)  and now that someone want to avoid paying tax on cashing it out. Can he simply move to countries where there is 0 tax like (UAE) specifically dubai and setup a company there and cash out crypto over years in dubai bank account and later decide to move to his home country with all that money. Since dubai has 0 personal tax and his home country can't charge tax on it because of non-resident of home country. Is this possible?

Capital gains tax only applies to bitcoin that you buy not the ones you earn.

Most attempts to circumvent the system will be caught by the IRS and will get you punished severely. They have shown us that they will even jail celeberties if they try to avoid paying taxes.

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March 28, 2023, 06:58:33 AM
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Say if someone owns 10 Bitcoins which is not declared and government doesn't know about it (earned/mined etc but did not buy)  and now that someone want to avoid paying tax on cashing it out. Can he simply move to countries where there is 0 tax like (UAE) specifically dubai and setup a company there and cash out crypto over years in dubai bank account and later decide to move to his home country with all that money. Since dubai has 0 personal tax and his home country can't charge tax on it because of non-resident of home country. Is this possible?


The only way to figure this out is indeed dependent on your home country. I can tell you quite exactly how it works for my country and no, you couldn't just leave my country with 10 Bitcoins and cash it out with zero tax somewhere else in some of the cases. It is very important to know whether you are declared a private or commercial entity when you obtained the Bitcoins. As both earning/mining is mostly deemed a commercial activity, it would not be possible to avoid taxation in my country unless you took care of the disjunction of the assets from your commercial sphere into your private sphere before, but that would entail taxation already.

It is a delicate topic where subpar consultants are poison to your tax strategies. But the bad thing is that top consultants cost loads of money. Though 10 Bitcoin should be still enough to cover the cost and keep some for yourself! Tongue

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