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February 18, 2023, 06:16:10 AM
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On several instances traders have made good profit out of trades in much shorter time period. Most of the time this happens through insider information sharing. Several incidents have taken place and very few have got proven that trades were through insider information. Recently a trader have profited $100k+ in profit in less than an hour. Just before the token (Gains Network) getting launched, the user have bought $208335 worth tokens. At the time of purchase the price was $7.92 and once after the listing price have reached $12.01 giving him big profit. The practice of traders with insider information is termed to be criminal offence.
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Have any of you made such kind of trade which is a coincidence or through some insider information.

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February 18, 2023, 06:44:11 AM
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It can be insider trading that is prohibited.

Crypto exchanges tackle insider trading after recent convictions
Three Charged In First Ever Cryptocurrency Insider Trading Tipping Scheme
Former Coinbase Insider Pleads Guilty In First-Ever Cryptocurrency Insider Trading Case
Many exchanges have insider tradings and they just have not been touched by courts but with more regulations against cryptocurrency market, I believe that in future, there will be more investigation against Insider tradings in crypto.
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February 18, 2023, 06:55:09 AM
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Have any of you made such kind of trade which is a coincidence or through some insider information.

This case is purely inside trading because he invest huge money in preparation for the listing. A whale will not gonna buy bulk tokens without any info that will signal them to buy. This kind of inside trading is common on crypto since SEC doesn’t monitor all the crypto projects unlike typical physical company.

I  believe exchange themselves is doing this kind of trick since they knew all the tokens that will be listed in advance especially Binance. This will continue to happened until all exchange will be regulated by the SEC. Maybe this is the reason why CZ keeps running from regulators because his business including insider trade will be busted.

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February 18, 2023, 07:03:51 AM
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Insider trading offenses should really be taken very seriously. First, they have violated the exchange rules, which are a bridge of contract between the exchange and the employee. Another thing is the damage they are going to cause to the traded token after pulling it off with their gain. 
Any exchange or employee who is found guilty of such a crime should be sanctioned to prevent future damage. 

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February 18, 2023, 07:19:51 AM
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Have any of you made such kind of trade which is a coincidence or through some insider information.

I once had the opportunity to buy cheap and get multiple profits, but that didn't make me rich when binance  launched the Alice coin, , I don't believe I got multiple profits from Alice at that time because I was just trying to buy coins at that time.

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February 18, 2023, 08:35:19 AM
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On several instances traders have made good profit out of trades in much shorter time period. Most of the time this happens through insider information sharing. Several incidents have taken place and very few have got proven that trades were through insider information. Recently a trader have profited $100k+ in profit in less than an hour.


Inside trading is an offence and it should be taken seriously. It can give certain individual an unfair advantage but ultimately it damages the reputation of exchange and erodes the trust of the financial system. It can also damage the reputation of traded token or asset. This is why most the financial regulators, including SEC have very strict rules against it and take tough stance on enforcement.

Ultimately, maintaining the integrity of the financial markets is crucial for the long term health and stability of the economy. By taking a tough stance against inside trading, we can ensure that market is fair and transparent for all participants.









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February 18, 2023, 10:41:28 AM
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I don't think that this has something to do with Bitcoin Discussion and better be continued in the Trading Discussion.

Have any of you made such kind of trade which is a coincidence or through some insider information.
I don't believe in insider information, I really don't. It's because when I see someone tells me about such information, I consider them as a scam. Because in this market, you rarely see those actual things happen. But if it's really existing and if there's a punishment about it where the token is being traded then exchanges like Binance will act accordingly for those they suspect part of its circle.

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February 18, 2023, 02:13:36 PM
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With the quantity of money invested in the trade then you can see it is not only insider information but surely a planned business or partnership. Either this is between the top management of the project disclosing such information and hyped the token in the channel. This insider information is not ordinary and an ordinary investor or whale won't buy such without information and with the exit time, it just tells you how properly planned it was
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February 18, 2023, 02:22:01 PM
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Even If you obtain such information, the prices that appear upon listing do not mean that there will be sufficient liquidity to cover beer requests.

For example, if an unknown person asks for a million dollars of a currency, then surely this matter will raise doubts, which means that it will be sold to him at a higher price than the market price. He wants to sell, so he will not be able to find enough liquidity to cover his selling orders.


The scenarios mentioned are very ideal, and if they succeed, they will be one or two times and cannot be generalized to all cases.

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Thats how does the connection works and at the same time having a power and chance of abusing the current state that they have. Ive been into the trading world for over a months some of the people doing some connections what are the coins they will buy and wait for the listing of the market but not all the time it works that's why seek for a good opportunity for having a reliable people will told you about the possible price pump coins. Even though this is a improper actions and investment we know this really happens in reality.

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February 19, 2023, 10:31:25 AM
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Thats how does the connection works and at the same time having a power and chance of abusing the current state that they have. Ive been into the trading world for over a months some of the people doing some connections what are the coins they will buy and wait for the listing of the market but not all the time it works
Naturally if you spend money into something as investment or trading, you want to gain profit and it's explainable why after that they usually start to talk and shill what they bought. Hopefully they think by talking about it to more people, there will be more demand and price will rise.

I don't like it. It is like the early comers eat late comers. Let the market do its movement naturally and if you pick good cryptocurrency at good time point, you will gain profit.

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that's why seek for a good opportunity for having a reliable people will told you about the possible price pump coins.
Who can tell you possible pumping coins?

If you join signal groups, you are like fresh meat for group owners or they can have a secret groups with owners and a few closest friends. As a normal member, you will receive signals after those guys in closed group and you will buy at higher price than them.

If you look for signals from others, you are not trading but are betting with belief that they are kind and honest people and don't each you like their fresh meat.
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February 19, 2023, 03:48:57 PM
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Have any of you made such kind of trade which is a coincidence or through some insider information.
I do not have to know that before I can make profit from trading, but some people are doing it and it should not be taken lightly as an offense because it is an offense as the traders are manipulating the market. Also from insider traders you will see them dump a coin after it is listed on an exchange.

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February 19, 2023, 04:00:23 PM
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What would then happened to those who invested at $12 plus?
After such trader made huge profits and how many traders made this huge profits as well. This is why altcoin investment is very risky because whenever the information is being circulated among themselves and they sold out, what would be of the project? This will be a purely an empty project whereby all token has been dump on the new investors. Although since my investment journey I have never made such profits before.
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What would then happened to those who invested at $12 plus?
After such trader made huge profits and how many traders made this huge profits as well. This is why altcoin investment is very risky because whenever the information is being circulated among themselves and they sold out, what would be of the project? This will be a purely an empty project whereby all token has been dump on the new investors. Although since my investment journey I have never made such profits before.
Checked with the coinmarketcap data, and the price of Gains Network at present is $9.770 which is not good for the people invested at $12 or more. These kind of activities makes altcoin investment much risky. Every project used to bump high when listed to Binance. The same had happened with this project, but somehow particular person have got information and the same had given him good profit. Not everyone gets such information,if so we too can be rich soon. Anyhow these tricks and insider information sharing ruins the reputation of the exchange and the project.

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February 19, 2023, 05:07:45 PM
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What would then happened to those who invested at $12 plus?
After such trader made huge profits and how many traders made this huge profits as well. This is why altcoin investment is very risky because whenever the information is being circulated among themselves and they sold out, what would be of the project? This will be a purely an empty project whereby all token has been dump on the new investors. Although since my investment journey I have never made such profits before.
Checked with the coinmarketcap data, and the price of Gains Network at present is $9.770 which is not good for the people invested at $12 or more. These kind of activities makes altcoin investment much risky. Every project used to bump high when listed to Binance. The same had happened with this project, but somehow particular person have got information and the same had given him good profit. Not everyone gets such information,if so we too can be rich soon. Anyhow these tricks and insider information sharing ruins the reputation of the exchange and the project.

That's one problem with binance listing a token on their exchange, whenever they are listing and you tend to buy the price will be very high at initial but after few days the price will automatically dropped by 60 percent before it will try going back to the listed price.
If it was me I wouldn't have bought at 12$ because there is every tendency it will drop more lower.
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February 19, 2023, 06:25:41 PM
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On several instances traders have made good profit out of trades in much shorter time period. Most of the time this happens through insider information sharing. Several incidents have taken place and very few have got proven that trades were through insider information.
I have come across many telegram groups are climbing that they are selling the insider information for making massive profit in quick time. But in my opinion, why they need to sell; instead of selling, they could make good profits with small capital. So, the probable catch is our subscription fees is the main revenue for them and by selling same signal to multiple people, they may try to pump one particular coin.

These are all kind of scam attempts but no one is bothering such things because we are losing very small amount which is the main encouraging point for those scammers hence they keep attempting with different group name and with different coins and tokens.
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February 19, 2023, 06:41:05 PM
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What would then happened to those who invested at $12 plus?


Those who will choose to invest in such a high price should do a good back ground check to be sure it is not a pump and dump coins. If you are so hasty to make profit in cryptocurrency then you should be ready to pay the price. There have been projects like that in the past that got hyped and some got even above $100 but today are worthless. Cryptocurrency investment is a personal responsibility and that is the reason we should be careful and to take the risk of our action.
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February 19, 2023, 07:06:35 PM
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What would then happened to those who invested at $12 plus?


Those who will choose to invest in such a high price should do a good back ground check to be sure it is not a pump and dump coins. If you are so hasty to make profit in cryptocurrency then you should be ready to pay the price. There have been projects like that in the past that got hyped and some got even above $100 but today are worthless. Cryptocurrency investment is a personal responsibility and that is the reason we should be careful and to take the risk of our action.

If the project could last for long then investing at 12$ isn't that bad after running some background checks to know it would rise more than the invested price. This could likely be the price might get to $50 in time coming or in the next bull run.
Everyone needs to do proper research before venturing into any altcoin.
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Wasn’t there was Coinbase employee who was charged with insider trading? I only read the headline so i don’t know if it was for stocks or crypto but I am assuming he knew which tokens were going to get listed on Coinbase and bought them on high leverage on another exchanges.

This is very common. In stocks it happens all the time. Some are even very sneaky and they buy the ETF of a stock so they don’t get caught. SEC rarely charges these people.

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February 20, 2023, 06:41:43 AM
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What would then happened to those who invested at $12 plus?


Those who will choose to invest in such a high price should do a good back ground check to be sure it is not a pump and dump coins. If you are so hasty to make profit in cryptocurrency then you should be ready to pay the price. There have been projects like that in the past that got hyped and some got even above $100 but today are worthless. Cryptocurrency investment is a personal responsibility and that is the reason we should be careful and to take the risk of our action.
The cryptocurrency's past must be checked first. When a cryptocurrency gets hyped, it's price doesn't always increase uniformly with the first pump. Sometimes, the initial pump will multiply. I have observed numerous coins whose prices behaved similarly after being overhyped.

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Well, well, well, let me tell ya something that I believe in with every fibre of my being, and that is the fact that insider trading is a big no-no, a major faux pa, an utterly unethical practice that should neva be encouraged. Why, ya ask? Let me break it down for ya. This insidious practis creates an uneven playin field, and it takes advantage of those poor souls who do not hav access to the same information. It's like playin poker with someone who can see ur cards, except the stakes are much higher. Traders must conduct their trades based on publicly available information and their own analysys. Now, I know that the temptation to make a quick buck through insider information can be strong, but it's just not worth it in the long run. Not only does it undermine the integrity of the market, but it can also land ya in some hot water legally speakin. Trust me; I've neva engaged in insider trading, and I neva plan to. I prefur to make informed decisions based on market trends and fundamental analysis, which has been quite successful for me. So, let me give ya some advice. Follow ethical trading practices, my friends, and steer clear of anything that could potentially harm the integrity of the market. Ur wallet and ur conscience will thank ya later.
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On several instances traders have made good profit out of trades in much shorter time period. Most of the time this happens through insider information sharing. Several incidents have taken place and very few have got proven that trades were through insider information. Recently a trader have profited $100k+ in profit in less than an hour. Just before the token (Gains Network) getting launched, the user have bought $208335 worth tokens. At the time of purchase the price was $7.92 and once after the listing price have reached $12.01 giving him big profit. The practice of traders with insider information is termed to be criminal offence.
Trader Makes $100K in Seconds Front-Running Token Listing on Binance

Have any of you made such kind of trade which is a coincidence or through some insider information.

I've some profits as this but I would have to tag it a coincidence but I bought the coin and in less than five hours it went all high and that was one of my happiest days in crypto and most times I always look back to the days of the last glory.
Over the period I've seen most of these alt coins if not all as scam projects because most times, it seems to be a pump and dump project and that is one of the reasons why investing in this shit coins seems so risky and not worth it except you're willing to take the risk.

It's actually no news to me about having some persons fore fronting most of these shit coins and all of these stuffs are for selfish Interests of making huge profits at the detriment of innocent investors.

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February 20, 2023, 08:18:05 AM
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What would then happened to those who invested at $12 plus?


Those who will choose to invest in such a high price should do a good back ground check to be sure it is not a pump and dump coins. If you are so hasty to make profit in cryptocurrency then you should be ready to pay the price. There have been projects like that in the past that got hyped and some got even above $100 but today are worthless. Cryptocurrency investment is a personal responsibility and that is the reason we should be careful and to take the risk of our action.
The cryptocurrency's past must be checked first. When a cryptocurrency gets hyped, it's price doesn't always increase uniformly with the first pump. Sometimes, the initial pump will multiply. I have observed numerous coins whose prices behaved similarly after being overhyped.

If you are talking of price of over hyped altcoin, it goes very high and dropped drastically without control and it takes time for the price to be corrected maybe some never gets to that same price again while some is being centered on the next bull run. However it requires technicality and patient to trade and hold any coin.
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I've some profits as this but I would have to tag it a coincidence but I bought the coin and in less than five hours it went all high and that was one of my happiest days in crypto and most times I always look back to the days of the last glory.
Over the period I've seen most of these alt coins if not all as scam projects because most times, it seems to be a pump and dump project and that is one of the reasons why investing in this shit coins seems so risky and not worth it except you're willing to take the risk.

It's actually no news to me about having some persons fore fronting most of these shit coins and all of these stuffs are for selfish Interests of making huge profits at the detriment of innocent investors.
How can you say co-incident? Did you accidentally see it and you then invest on it? If not then I wouldn't call it as one because there are really people who watch out for the new token listing on binance or they joined some groups on telegram to know if which coin will be listed.

The coin's starting price is a bit high so I don't think I will ever invest on it and it was also risky to invest more of it because what if it collapse right after bought it? You know there are so many pump and dump coins now and it still happens even if the coin is already listed on binance. Binance nowadays doesn't really care anymore about their reputation but they will only list a coin as long as they can afford to pay the listing fee.

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Insider information is something everyone can do if they are on the "inside" part of it. The problem is that not everyone is inside, and not everyone gets these information, so there are only handful of people who make this kind of profit.

For example, that dude who bought gain network token worth 200k? That guy knew it, but none of us did, and we couldn't enjoy that profit, whereas he did. This is why this part becomes unethical, an information that only a few people have, is not an information that should be allowed to trade on, that is illegal in the stock world, and since crypto world is not tightly watched yet, it is not getting caught, but would be illegal here too if you ever get caught doing it.

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On several instances traders have made good profit out of trades in much shorter time period. Most of the time this happens through insider information sharing. Several incidents have taken place and very few have got proven that trades were through insider information. Recently a trader have profited $100k+ in profit in less than an hour. Just before the token (Gains Network) getting launched, the user have bought $208335 worth tokens. At the time of purchase the price was $7.92 and once after the listing price have reached $12.01 giving him big profit. The practice of traders with insider information is termed to be criminal offence.
Trader Makes $100K in Seconds Front-Running Token Listing on Binance

Have any of you made such kind of trade which is a coincidence or through some insider information.
This happens most but it is a very risky adventure so we have to be very careful or else we might end up losing everything we have.
I could remember the squird game last year that was trending everywhere. Some group of scammer created a token in the name of squird game because the movie was trending. Many investors invested there hard earned money in that project and we were so surprised that everything ended in a rugged pull. Some persons lose more that $200k because they thought that when the token becomes launched they will make a lot of money but everything ended in a big lose.









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February 24, 2023, 06:17:25 PM
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Have any of you made such kind of trade which is a coincidence or through some insider information.

Like never happened in entire timeline until today! In fact it is the very reason I stopped playing around most of the altcoins because they are dumped as soon as they get listed and they never come back really. Due to free giveaways which is most common practice in the ICO, Airdrops, Promotions, Bounties and what not, millions of tokens are dumped if the project is successful in listing their coins over an exchanger.

I have observed closely, the project will always claim they will have listing price of lets say $10 but as soon as they list there are legend players who will have those free collected coins and start dumping right at that price and by the time investor like me reach there to take profit or even wait in some instances in a hope that I will get more in the future, I will loose everything in the process.

The insider job can only be done by two people, one the owner himself and secondly the people who work around the owner.

Seriously, this is why most of the altcoin project fails in the first place. Those which survive are always running on external oxygen per se.
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February 25, 2023, 12:18:09 PM
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I don't believe in insider information, I really don't. It's because when I see someone tells me about such information, I consider them as a scam...

In order to trust insider information, it is necessary that you personally know such an employee of the company who has access to confidential information. And such information does not become public until it is officially published. So using information passed off as insider information from strangers is reckless.

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February 25, 2023, 01:17:36 PM
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Just imagine an "insider" you mean that will tell you that their coin will reach $1 which you need to bought it now since the price is $0.10 would you buy it now ? Is it scammy right ? What if those person was just paid for marketing purposes. I dont know how reliable is your information but there is no insider it is just a matter of good project that people interested on it. Unless they are kind of whales to control the price but base on your thread it is a new coin lunching
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