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I thought it could be lower still though initially I was surprised we didnt just stay in the 20k prices, it was always possible we could stretch an elastic BTC price negatively to get like 10k.
Technically, historically and fundamentally such expectations are wrong ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) For starters reaching $20k itself without going below it was unreasonable since it was way below the intrinsic value. Historically speaking reaching the peak of the previous ATH is also unprecedented, if you look at each cycle we never see the previous peak be reached even after the market crash let alone go under it! For example in 2014 price went as low as $150 whereas previous cycle's peak was roughly $20. Same in 2018 that crash brought the price as low as $3100 whereas previous peak was $1100 (in 2013). But this time despite previous peak being $20k and this cycle's peak not being a peak at all, the price went down to $20k and lower. That's not even to mention the fact that bitcoin is a hedge against inflation and failing fiat system so technically it should have gone up. We also see the increasing adoption which is another reason why expecting bigger drops was and is unrealistic.
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February 27, 2023, 05:51:21 PM |
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My prediction is that bitcoin bottomed last year, and this year, we will have a gradual recovery in preparation for the halving event that will take place next year. This year bitcoin will still go up and down after that, but bitcoin won't be able to drop below $20k again, that's what I'm thinking. So those who haven't bought bitcoin yet, it's best to buy now, don't wait for bitcoin to bottom to start buying.
That doesn't guarantee bitcoin can't go below $20k because we've seen how bitcoin moves. And if we observe, now bitcoin tends to move more wildly without being able to predict where it will move. But we can buy more bitcoins if the price goes below $20k again because that is a rare opportunity we may not see again. And in the meantime, $15k is bitcoin's lowest price this year and we can hope that the price will not touch that price again and only continue to rise to the next high. It may not guarantee it, but to constantly think about how long it could get is also not the solution neither. You need to keep focusing on how great it could get, not how low it could get in order to make it work. If we keep focusing on how low it could get then we are going to be scared of every single small drop and that's not going to work for us at all, it will definitely cause a ton of trouble, and we will end up selling very early, when we shouldn't. However if we keep on believing that it will go up, then we would not be focusing on how it will go down, and drops won't matter to us, because we will be simply expecting it to go up instead.
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February 27, 2023, 10:21:21 PM |
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But many people had taken advantage of this moment by buying many bitcoins,
This is a guarantee for the whales but for little investors, it can't be helped but only to buy in portions into their most available amount on their pockets ready to be spent. especially when yesterday's price dropped to $15k.
Did I missed something yesterday that bitcoin have reached $15k yesterday? IIRC, it wasn't yesterday but yes it did reached $15k but not yesterday. We can only wait patiently and don't need to worry about the market situation because everything will improve. And we will get big profits again.
For long term investors, no need to be wary at these motions side by side by bitcoin. We all know where it's heading.
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February 27, 2023, 11:09:50 PM |
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I thought it could be lower still though initially I was surprised we didnt just stay in the 20k prices, it was always possible we could stretch an elastic BTC price negatively to get like 10k. I just dont think that would have lasted long, we did probably go far enough downwards and find not much interest in selling exists there so yea I'd guess the bottom price or very close to it is decided. A bigger deal is how long we idle on the lows maybe, the lowest price is rarely found or traded by that many people most already sold along the way and/or did not have presence around the time of the low. Is buying here fair will answer the OP question, I think its fair to buy in the 20k prices still and works ok long term if you can handle the wait.
Swinging still .. we got ourselves saved at the $20k line. The next time the market dropped to the latest and lowest line below $15k or so ... we might get drowned deeper even more than before ... as the next ath will always requires a sacrifice like a freefall into 5 year low to get bounced later in the halving day.
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February 27, 2023, 11:47:44 PM Last edit: June 11, 2023, 11:21:57 PM by STT |
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I agree we shouldn't really be here, its gone too far or stayed for long below the 200 week average and almost always BTC does not act like this. Its quite worrying to some, since June last year we've been submerged in that way and normally BTC floats above the 200 week even if its 'low' we go into a lull and stay sideways while things work themselves out. previous peak was $1100 (in 2013). The lows in years after 2013 peak that to me were the worst kind of drop out that I can remember, over a year below 200 week vs now only 8 months so far. I think 2014 and for a couple of years it was quiet. 2013 peak was headlines on main channel news as I remember and after, much silence though some involved continued of course and thats the most important thing. BTC at present has stayed in the headlines but with negatives like exchanges falling or a stable coin, of course none are directly BTC so should be taken as a false sell scenario really. If I fall through thin ice, in a negative scenario but climb back out even afterwards there is some recovery in that struggle. So I do see 2023 a bit like this, we have yet to fight back above 200 week average and its an important fight for this very long term measure. Even after that fight is won, energy is used up we must build strength before all this talk of higher prices we wont be sprinting imo not this year and thats ok also.
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February 27, 2023, 11:56:29 PM |
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Swinging still .. we got ourselves saved at the $20k line.
The next time the market dropped to the latest and lowest line below $15k or so ... we might get drowned deeper even more than before ... as the next ath will always requires a sacrifice like a freefall into 5 year low to get bounced later in the halving day.
Do you have a stronger basis of reference when saying there must be a sacrifice such as a free fall to a lower price and then bounce back up? Because if you can figure it out in time, you will get rich quicker by buying Bitcoin at a low price and then selling it at a bull run price. So I also want to know this more precisely so that I can prepare a large amount of buying funds, because previously I thought that Bitcoin could increase without having to make corrections even though corrections are always in the market.
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February 28, 2023, 07:14:02 AM |
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My prediction is that bitcoin bottomed last year, and this year, we will have a gradual recovery in preparation for the halving event that will take place next year. This year bitcoin will still go up and down after that, but bitcoin won't be able to drop below $20k again, that's what I'm thinking. So those who haven't bought bitcoin yet, it's best to buy now, don't wait for bitcoin to bottom to start buying.
That doesn't guarantee bitcoin can't go below $20k because we've seen how bitcoin moves. And if we observe, now bitcoin tends to move more wildly without being able to predict where it will move. But we can buy more bitcoins if the price goes below $20k again because that is a rare opportunity we may not see again. And in the meantime, $15k is bitcoin's lowest price this year and we can hope that the price will not touch that price again and only continue to rise to the next high. It may not guarantee it, but to constantly think about how long it could get is also not the solution neither. You need to keep focusing on how great it could get, not how low it could get in order to make it work. If we keep focusing on how low it could get then we are going to be scared of every single small drop and that's not going to work for us at all, it will definitely cause a ton of trouble, and we will end up selling very early, when we shouldn't. However if we keep on believing that it will go up, then we would not be focusing on how it will go down, and drops won't matter to us, because we will be simply expecting it to go up instead. True, it is better to focus on collecting more bitcoins than to think about the next low for bitcoin because that can make us miss buying at low prices. It's okay to buy on the dips, although there will still be a few more dips before the price starts to increase, and we can use those more dips to buy again. When we believe that bitcoin will rise again, we will definitely use the moment of decline to buy more and hold more. And many people have proven that when they buy at a low price, they can sell it at a high price, even though the price hasn't reached its peak yet.
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February 28, 2023, 10:05:53 AM |
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Swinging still .. we got ourselves saved at the $20k line.
The next time the market dropped to the latest and lowest line below $15k or so ... we might get drowned deeper even more than before ... as the next ath will always requires a sacrifice like a freefall into 5 year low to get bounced later in the halving day.
Do you have a stronger basis of reference when saying there must be a sacrifice such as a free fall to a lower price and then bounce back up? Because if you can figure it out in time, you will get rich quicker by buying Bitcoin at a low price and then selling it at a bull run price. So I also want to know this more precisely so that I can prepare a large amount of buying funds, because previously I thought that Bitcoin could increase without having to make corrections even though corrections are always in the market. I don't and I disagree with him. I think we do not need to have a freefall type of thing and we shouldn't be really worried about where we will end up, it may not look amazing as of right now, but it's fine and we should be feeling fine about the potential we already have. It's good enough for all of us and it should stay good enough. At the end of the day, crypto is not really that confusing and we should be basically making a good amount of change whenever we can about the price and right now we are trying to make a change upwards and failed a few times but that doesn't mean that we can't keep trying, as long as people have those hundreds of billions of dollars worth stablecoins, we can keep trying.
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February 28, 2023, 08:35:44 PM |
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Swinging still .. we got ourselves saved at the $20k line.
The next time the market dropped to the latest and lowest line below $15k or so ... we might get drowned deeper even more than before ... as the next ath will always requires a sacrifice like a freefall into 5 year low to get bounced later in the halving day.
Do you have a stronger basis of reference when saying there must be a sacrifice such as a free fall to a lower price and then bounce back up? Because if you can figure it out in time, you will get rich quicker by buying Bitcoin at a low price and then selling it at a bull run price. So I also want to know this more precisely so that I can prepare a large amount of buying funds, because previously I thought that Bitcoin could increase without having to make corrections even though corrections are always in the market. It cant really be that predictable in the first place and we know that this market is truly that unpredictable and there's no way or someone could able to see on where it would be going. There's no way that we could determine whether its already be bottom or not and it is really hard to determine on when it would be going up or down.If it was predictable on the first place then all of us would be making money and also it cant be called a market since it doesnt really getting involved buy and sell on this case.
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bottom thing again? we have couple of threads about this recently and yes it has been asked if 14-15k is the bottom and having that said? look at the market price right before you posted this? and you will find that Bitcoin had already increased up to more than 20k and still pumping so how could you have this as thread now? bitcoin had its bottom and now readying to take second level in which 30k.
Optimism is good, but what proof do you have that what you say will happen in the future? but what? when and where did I said something about your concern? I was just pointing that same thread had been created recently and your post is something about what? lol what is optimism in my post? Anything can happen, don't be too subjective, always have a backup plan if things don't go as we expected. I still expect bitcoin to continue to rise, but I do not rule out the possibility that it will fall.
who are subjective? did you really understand what I am saying here? and back up plan? i am only concerning the same posting and threads and what had been said on those thread and it is not my posts lol.
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It may not guarantee it, but to constantly think about how long it could get is also not the solution neither. You need to keep focusing on how great it could get, not how low it could get in order to make it work. If we keep focusing on how low it could get then we are going to be scared of every single small drop and that's not going to work for us at all, it will definitely cause a ton of trouble, and we will end up selling very early, when we shouldn't.
However if we keep on believing that it will go up, then we would not be focusing on how it will go down, and drops won't matter to us, because we will be simply expecting it to go up instead.
That is one way to deal with this, but another way to do this is instead to look at the fall of the price as something positive, people get scared when the price goes down as they think of all the money they are losing and the money they could lose if such movement continues, but if instead of thinking that way people think about such a drop as an opportunity to buy bitcoin for a discount and buy the dip then they will look forward to see a drop instead of fearing it.
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Just to add, I am going to go with yes the bottom is in.
I do think we will crash again however to similar levels just not as low as the low we saw on the 21st November last year.
You are free to what to believe mate and that is your rights as investors but the goal here is to how we will make money in this coin mate. Bitcoin seems to be up and down since last year , some says this is the effect of recovery and also correction , but whatever the point is? we must always consider buying when the price is low and then wait till it grows.
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Just to add, I am going to go with yes the bottom is in.
I do think we will crash again however to similar levels just not as low as the low we saw on the 21st November last year.
You are free to what to believe mate and that is your rights as investors but the goal here is to how we will make money in this coin mate. Bitcoin seems to be up and down since last year , some says this is the effect of recovery and also correction , but whatever the point is? we must always consider buying when the price is low and then wait till it grows. There are still many different ways to make money from Bitcoin. Investors should always use their own judgment when investing. There are two aspects of investing, one is to earn money by investing for short time and another is to invest for long term and there is a great opportunity to earn a lot of money. Choose either one. Then there is an opportunity to earn a lot of money from here.
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March 03, 2023, 04:21:25 AM |
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- In what happened today in the market regarding the value of Bitcoin these past 8 hrs ago, its bottom price fell by 21973$ and rose again at present by 22300 almost.
Because of this incident, I think it is clear that we are still in the bearish stage and we are not yet in the bullish season. But even so, we still need to be prepared, let's just think that this is the time to buy bitcoin and then hold, it's that simple to understand.
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March 03, 2023, 05:24:35 AM |
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- In what happened today in the market regarding the value of Bitcoin these past 8 hrs ago, its bottom price fell by 21973$ and rose again at present by 22300 almost.
Because of this incident, I think it is clear that we are still in the bearish stage and we are not yet in the bullish season. But even so, we still need to be prepared, let's just think that this is the time to buy bitcoin and then hold, it's that simple to understand.
We are not yet free of the bears and 2023 is still bear season. Bitcoin's price rally over the past 2 months is just a short-term bull run, not a sign of a bull season. Even though bitcoin fell below $22k at one point, I believe this drop will not be able to get below $20k, meaning we have bottomed for this year's bear season, and it happened last year.
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March 03, 2023, 09:15:31 PM |
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It cant really be that predictable in the first place and we know that this market is truly that unpredictable and there's no way or someone could able to see on where it would be going. There's no way that we could determine whether its already be bottom or not and it is really hard to determine on when it would be going up or down.If it was predictable on the first place then all of us would be making money and also it cant be called a market since it doesnt really getting involved buy and sell on this case.
You are right that the cryptocurrency market can be unpredictable and difficult to predict. The price of cryptocurrencies can fluctuate greatly over short periods, making it challenging for traders and investors to determine when to buy or sell. But, though it's true that the market can be unpredictable, it doesn't mean that it's impossible to make informed decisions based on market trends, technical analysis, and fundamental factors. Experienced and knowledgeable traders and investors use a variety of tools and strategies to analyze the market and make educated guesses about future price movements.
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March 04, 2023, 03:01:55 AM |
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It cant really be that predictable in the first place and we know that this market is truly that unpredictable and there's no way or someone could able to see on where it would be going. There's no way that we could determine whether its already be bottom or not and it is really hard to determine on when it would be going up or down.If it was predictable on the first place then all of us would be making money and also it cant be called a market since it doesnt really getting involved buy and sell on this case.
You are right that the cryptocurrency market can be unpredictable and difficult to predict. The price of cryptocurrencies can fluctuate greatly over short periods, making it challenging for traders and investors to determine when to buy or sell. But, though it's true that the market can be unpredictable, it doesn't mean that it's impossible to make informed decisions based on market trends, technical analysis, and fundamental factors. Experienced and knowledgeable traders and investors use a variety of tools and strategies to analyze the market and make educated guesses about future price movements. It is true that the market is unpredictable, but that does not mean it is impossible to predict, if no one guesses, we all lose, but we also have a lot of people making money in the market meaning the market can still be predicted. Those who study hard and accumulate experience and skills, they can make predictions that can bring them profits, while those who are lazy but want to make quick money will pay the price with their money. I see the unpredictable market as a good and fair thing, those who work hard always pay off.
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March 04, 2023, 04:16:07 AM |
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- In what happened today in the market regarding the value of Bitcoin these past 8 hrs ago, its bottom price fell by 21973$ and rose again at present by 22300 almost.
Because of this incident, I think it is clear that we are still in the bearish stage and we are not yet in the bullish season. But even so, we still need to be prepared, let's just think that this is the time to buy bitcoin and then hold, it's that simple to understand.
We are not yet free of the bears and 2023 is still bear season. Bitcoin's price rally over the past 2 months is just a short-term bull run, not a sign of a bull season. Even though bitcoin fell below $22k at one point, I believe this drop will not be able to get below $20k, meaning we have bottomed for this year's bear season, and it happened last year. This seems like the correct way to look at things, we know that a bull season cannot start until the halving takes place, and since that is not the case it is very difficult for the price to move positively, and right now we are seeing an example of this, bitcoin has been moving positively since the beginning of the year but as soon as the month of March began the price started showing signs that a small reversal is probably coming.
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March 04, 2023, 06:43:26 AM |
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Early in the year, of course I'm optimistic that the market will be easy to rise and like the trend that occurred in 2021, at the beginning of the year the price rose by more than 25% and continued to rise until it reached ATH in April, even though the price fell again but at the end of the year it could reach ATH again, unfortunately in 2022 there are many cases that make investors panic and hit lows at $15k, and hopefully it won't happen again.
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Early in the year, of course I'm optimistic that the market will be easy to rise and like the trend that occurred in 2021, at the beginning of the year the price rose by more than 25% and continued to rise until it reached ATH in April, even though the price fell again but at the end of the year it could reach ATH again, unfortunately in 2022 there are many cases that make investors panic and hit lows at $15k, and hopefully it won't happen again.
even how optimistic you are mate but always remember being reality , the market has no reason to grow as much as 2021 so why expect ATH this year or the next? you also need to understand that the market trend change mostly in every 4-5 years cycle as what we have seen in the space for many times now. so unless you are intending to be failure then believe in what you wanted now.
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