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April 20, 2024, 08:07:53 AM
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Bitcoin alone cannot eradicate poverty because poverty is not created in a day but the entire economic system in a country is responsible for it and more ancillary government weaknesses and structures are strongly linked behind it.
Also it is not clear to me how Bitcoin will work behind the poverty of a country but I think Bitcoin can play an important role in reducing the amount of inflation in a country.
Moreover, Bitcoin is a risky investment and if a poor person invests all his capital in this risky investment, poverty will likely increase rather than decrease.

But how will bitcoin reduce a country's inflation? And inflation is also one of the factors that causes people to fall into poverty, so if bitcoin can help reduce inflation for any country, it will also contribute somewhat to poverty reduction. Honestly, I don't see bitcoin having any impact on a country's economy since it's just a highly volatile asset.

To me, bitcoin is a volatile asset and investment and it would be great if an individual or organization knew how to take advantage of it. But talking about impact at the government or country level is impossible, investing in a highly volatile asset is not the way for that government to get that country's economy going.

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April 20, 2024, 08:28:06 AM
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To me, bitcoin is a volatile asset and investment and it would be great if an individual or organization knew how to take advantage of it. But talking about impact at the government or country level is impossible, investing in a highly volatile asset is not the way for that government to get that country's economy going.
Broadly speaking, in terms of prospects and progress to date, no one will doubt the real bitcoin, it's just that there are several conditions where they are still unsure and prestigious or do not want to admit that bitcoin is one of the best investment assets because this can interfere with the interests of some of them.

Nowadays, many people know and want to be in bitcoin but on the other hand they also don't want to learn more about bitcoin which makes this also another problem where bitcoin becomes a tool that is good but cannot be maximized.
I personally in the end if it refers to the initial topic where bitcoin can change the situation for a larger scope I am not sure because in the end for the scope of a country it is not easy because indeed they cover all aspects in one state but for problems in a small family I think it can still be because I have also felt that in the end with bitcoin at least the quality of my economy is more secure.

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April 20, 2024, 10:54:13 AM
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you have a point, not everyone has a capability to learn bitcoin and we all know that bitcoin value is volatile, the value of this coin can change without notice depends to the market movement that's why I don't think this is the key to resolve the poverty, Maybe it can lessen but not totally end the poverty because some people in a society destined to become poor to balance the entire society and that's the truth. Take note that it's kinda hard to have at least 1 bitcoin so it is not really surprising if this will not be the answer to solve poverty in every country.

This is the reality that not everyone can learn about Bitcoin therefore it cannot be a solution to overcome poverty but if more people move towards it without knowledge then they can become poor due to loss of money. Poverty can only be ended with the help of Bitcoin if a person possesses full command of his investment and does not feel sorrow due to market changes.

The overall population of the world cannot accept Bitcoin due to financial instability and those who have money will not surely gain profit from Bitcoin because everyone cannot understand this type of investment and cannot continue due to lack of knowledge and lack of the ability to use patience.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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April 20, 2024, 02:17:33 PM
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For me proverty is not the problem of a person but of the whole nation in my country the eradication of poverty has becomes necessary for the sustainable and inclusive growth of the let state the fate here Bitcoin has helps the poor by Increasin their savings and access to capital also it has help around 1.7million people in my country and also it has also impoverished people to control their investment.

If you can buy a lot of bitcoin now and hold it until it reaches 150k, it is possible. Because honestly speaking, this is just real talk. Bitcoin in this era will only make you rich if you are like Michael Saylor, Elon Musk, Vitalik, and other famous people or big companies or institutions investors who, once you are able to buy a lot of bitcoins, will become very rich indeed.

But for people like me, I won't be able to get rich if I only focus on Bitcoin; instead, it will only happen if I focus on altcoins and give time to accumulate, knowing if there are really
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April 20, 2024, 02:35:33 PM
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Sonce Bitcoin is just a tool for everyone to achieve financial freedom I think there is the higher chance for that depending on how and what people are doing with their Bitcoin investments. Though there are a lot of ways to earn or accumulate Bitcoins without spending our own money but yeah it all matters on our strategy to rise up from poverty and I believe it is very possible.



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April 20, 2024, 05:50:37 PM
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Bitcoin alone cannot eradicate poverty because poverty is not created in a day but the entire economic system in a country is responsible for it and more ancillary government weaknesses and structures are strongly linked behind it.
Also it is not clear to me how Bitcoin will work behind the poverty of a country but I think Bitcoin can play an important role in reducing the amount of inflation in a country.
Moreover, Bitcoin is a risky investment and if a poor person invests all his capital in this risky investment, poverty will likely increase rather than decrease.
Agree with what you say, it is the state system that must be responsible for poverty which is increasing every year in various countries, because there are still many who misappropriate state money into personal accounts or other partners, and this action is not strict, for officials and only sharp downwards. For me, who is really very poor, I think it is very difficult to save, let alone buy assets. They only think about how they will eat the next day

However, if they can rise from the depths of poverty, I think they can slowly ask what to save for the future, usually they believe more in gold because of their lack of knowledge about bitcoin. Maybe they need a process to find out what bitcoin is? If they already understand this, they will definitely choose Bitcoin in the future.

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Agree with what you say, it is the state system that must be responsible for poverty which is increasing every year in various countries, because there are still many who misappropriate state money into personal accounts or other partners, and this action is not strict, for officials and only sharp downwards. For me, who is really very poor, I think it is very difficult to save, let alone buy assets. They only think about how they will eat the next day

However, if they can rise from the depths of poverty, I think they can slowly ask what to save for the future, usually they believe more in gold because of their lack of knowledge about bitcoin. Maybe they need a process to find out what bitcoin is? If they already understand this, they will definitely choose Bitcoin in the future.


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Bitcoin alone cannot eradicate poverty because poverty is not created in a day but the entire economic system in a country is responsible for it and more ancillary government weaknesses and structures are strongly linked behind it.
Also it is not clear to me how Bitcoin will work behind the poverty of a country but I think Bitcoin can play an important role in reducing the amount of inflation in a country.
Moreover, Bitcoin is a risky investment and if a poor person invests all his capital in this risky investment, poverty will likely increase rather than decrease.
Agree with what you say, it is the state system that must be responsible for poverty which is increasing every year in various countries, because there are still many who misappropriate state money into personal accounts or other partners, and this action is not strict, for officials and only sharp downwards. For me, who is really very poor, I think it is very difficult to save, let alone buy assets. They only think about how they will eat the next day

However, if they can rise from the depths of poverty, I think they can slowly ask what to save for the future, usually they believe more in gold because of their lack of knowledge about bitcoin. Maybe they need a process to find out what bitcoin is? If they already understand this, they will definitely choose Bitcoin in the future.

Agreed that the government system is largely responsible for the country's poverty and economy. But political war is not as simple as we think, politics is what is killing people every day. Even if your government is trying to find ways to move the country forward, if major governments like the US or China seek to embargo or restrict your government just because of some disagreements in the international arena, it is inevitable that your country will fall into deadlock.

Besides corruption, there are other reasons why governments are weak and have difficulty moving the country's economy forward. Small countries and third countries are both strongly influenced by large countries and that is also one of the causes of large inflation in third world countries.

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The overall population of the world cannot accept Bitcoin due to financial instability and those who have money will not surely gain profit from Bitcoin because everyone cannot understand this type of investment and cannot continue due to lack of knowledge and lack of the ability to use patience.

To be honest, Bitcoin is not for everyone. Bitcoin is for everyone only if they use this as a payment channel or do not expect any good returns from it. People will low capital always end up losing money by investing in bitcoin because of their poor money management. People can make a profit out of Bitcoin only if they have good money management skills. If you invest $10 in Bitcoin, you should forget about this money. But people invest $10 in Bitcoin and start checking the price every day and check what is their position at this moment.

People should understand that Bitcoin won't give you profit overnight. We don't know how long it may take to give you a good return. Bitcoin is for people who have patience with their investments. They have to wait with their investment instead of checking it every day which is not possible for everyone. A person with a $3 average income a day cannot invest and forget about it.

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Sonce Bitcoin is just a tool for everyone to achieve financial freedom I think there is the higher chance for that depending on how and what people are doing with their Bitcoin investments. Though there are a lot of ways to earn or accumulate Bitcoins without spending our own money but yeah it all matters on our strategy to rise up from poverty and I believe it is very possible.

How exactly? You see, the poor population in an economy is the one that doesn't have access to basic amenities, electronic devices, and internet services is a far thing for them and one can't even know about Bitcoin if they don't have these things. You can't expect someone living in a hut made of plastic bags eating once a day to know anything about technology and innovations such as Bitcoin, and if they don't know anything or have any way to access it, I don't see how they can utilize it to end their poverty.

And, even if they manage to gain access to an internet connection, buy the cheapest device, and gain access to tools and stuff to use Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, they wouldn't have the funding to get involved. Bitcoin doesn't do magic, you can't just create a wallet, read some magical lines, and receive Bitcoin in your wallet. You need money to earn money, and Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies work with the same rule.

So, I don't agree that Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency can end poverty because they are only available for people who are doing pretty well because others can't utilize them to achieve gains.

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To me, bitcoin is a volatile asset and investment and it would be great if an individual or organization knew how to take advantage of it. But talking about impact at the government or country level is impossible, investing in a highly volatile asset is not the way for that government to get that country's economy going.
Broadly speaking, in terms of prospects and progress to date, no one will doubt the real bitcoin, it's just that there are several conditions where they are still unsure and prestigious or do not want to admit that bitcoin is one of the best investment assets because this can interfere with the interests of some of them.

Nowadays, many people know and want to be in bitcoin but on the other hand they also don't want to learn more about bitcoin which makes this also another problem where bitcoin becomes a tool that is good but cannot be maximized.
I personally in the end if it refers to the initial topic where bitcoin can change the situation for a larger scope I am not sure because in the end for the scope of a country it is not easy because indeed they cover all aspects in one state but for problems in a small family I think it can still be because I have also felt that in the end with bitcoin at least the quality of my economy is more secure.


As I said, bitcoin will have a significant impact on the individual or organizational economy. But I also need to emphasize again that whether you can leverage bitcoin to improve the economy depends entirely on you, not bitcoin. I mean, to earn good profits from investing in bitcoin, it will depend on one's level and skills. Things will not be as simple as just spending money and investing in bitcoin will make everyone rich or improve their economy. Bitcoin is just a tool and whether we can take advantage of it or not depends on each person.

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April 21, 2024, 05:07:01 PM
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This is the reality that not everyone can learn about Bitcoin therefore it cannot be a solution to overcome poverty but if more people move towards it without knowledge then they can become poor due to loss of money. Poverty can only be ended with the help of Bitcoin if a person possesses full command of his investment and does not feel sorrow due to market changes.

I'm not sure if I understand you very well but I want to you to know something. You don't need wide knowledge of Bitcoin to be able to make money from it, if you understand how to buy and how to sell when you are profitable enough, I think you are good to go but if you really want to last here, you need more knowledge so that you don't end up like one guy that used 10 Bitcoin to order pizza or be that guy that forgot the hard drive that contains millions worth in the dump yard.

Bitcoin can't end poverty, it can do that perhaps when it was still cheaper but now it's too expensive to buy, where do you expect a poor person to raise a big amount of money to buy a full bitcoin when they can't afford to buy a plate of food and buying $100 worth wouldn't make you richer because even though Bitcoin do 3x, you would probably would just make money to pay house rent for that month, that's if it will be enough.

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The overall population of the world cannot accept Bitcoin due to financial instability and those who have money will not surely gain profit from Bitcoin because everyone cannot understand this type of investment and cannot continue due to lack of knowledge and lack of the ability to use patience.

The world feel trapped by the government, they wouldn't allow that happen under their eyes, recently JP. Morgan still refer Bitcoin as a scam investment, now imagine if such people that influenced financial system continues to attack Bitcoin in that manner, even the government will support them because they are all involved in their traditional financial system.

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April 22, 2024, 08:04:07 PM
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For me proverty is not the problem of a person but of the whole nation in my country the eradication of poverty has becomes necessary for the sustainable and inclusive growth of the let state the fate here Bitcoin has helps the poor by Increasin their savings and access to capital also it has help around 1.7million people in my country and also it has also impoverished people to control their investment.

Your thread look more like a question but you started stating how Bitcoin can end poverty which I was not satisfied with, Bitcoin created as an easy means of traction between peers before it was later introduced as an investment, do you think that everyone knows about Bitcoin, I must tell you the truth Bitcoin can not end povery because this was meant to exist natural among humans, even though the givernment of different nations decide to adopt bitcoin as a legal tender today, many people may not be interest and my not afford it no matter the amount and the strategy is available for anyone to purchase it, some people are living below one dollar many nations so you don't exepect bitcoin to perform such magic.

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No country can end poverty without producing goods and investing in education. If no one produces products inside, no one produces food, no one works, how can Bitcoin magically end poverty? Those who think that Bitcoin can end it, they just hope that Bitcoin's value will increase over time and poor countries that have purchased Bitcoins earlier, will have a lot of money in the future and poverty will magically end. That's not true, even if any country follows this plan and Bitcoin will significantly rise for them, they still won't end poverty because it takes more than money for poverty to end. They need to bring highly skilled laborers that will teach local people how to do welding, plumbing and etc. They need highly qualified professors that will teach business management, engineering, medicine and other professions to locals. That's why they'll end poverty, Bitcoin will only give them a little boost financially but I don't think that will be enough for any country with population more than a million people.

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Bitcoin alone cannot eradicate poverty because poverty is not created in a day but the entire economic system in a country is responsible for it and more ancillary government weaknesses and structures are strongly linked behind it.
Also it is not clear to me how Bitcoin will work behind the poverty of a country but I think Bitcoin can play an important role in reducing the amount of inflation in a country.
Moreover, Bitcoin is a risky investment and if a poor person invests all his capital in this risky investment, poverty will likely increase rather than decrease.
But how will bitcoin reduce a country's inflation? And inflation is also one of the factors that causes people to fall into poverty, so if bitcoin can help reduce inflation for any country, it will also contribute somewhat to poverty reduction. Honestly, I don't see bitcoin having any impact on a country's economy since it's just a highly volatile asset.

To me, bitcoin is a volatile asset and investment and it would be great if an individual or organization knew how to take advantage of it. But talking about impact at the government or country level is impossible, investing in a highly volatile asset is not the way for that government to get that country's economy going.
Even if a government or a country does utilize Bitcoin to get their economy better, I don't think that will impact the lives of the poor living in that country because we can see all around the world where countries that have very good economies but there are still poor populations in those countries which means that the government doesn't specifically do anything for those who are poor but they only do things on a larger scale which might affect the economy a little bit no individuals.

For individuals, Bitcoin can only do something for them if they can access it and make investments in it, but someone poor won't be able to do any of the two because they can't afford it, a poor can't have an investment capital to start investing in Bitcoin and they also can't buy devices to use Bitcoin.

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April 24, 2024, 04:47:14 PM
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For me proverty is not the problem of a person but of the whole nation in my country the eradication of poverty has becomes necessary for the sustainable and inclusive growth of the let state the fate here Bitcoin has helps the poor by Increasin their savings and access to capital also it has help around 1.7million people in my country and also it has also impoverished people to control their investment.
How can someone who doesn't have money invest in Bitcoin and do you think you can think about investing in conditions of poverty that are affecting most people? The data you collected from shows that around 1.7 million people in your country have been involved in it and what is strange is that they are classified as poor people. It is so difficult to provide for their daily living needs, how can they focus on investing with the inability to buy.

Bitcoin helps anyone but those who have the opportunity to invest. But if people are not involved in it then there is no opportunity to reach the stage of improving poverty levels. Eradicating poverty is not an easy thing, especially if your country does not have jobs that can be done by the wider community so poverty is something that is difficult to eradicate.

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April 24, 2024, 07:01:56 PM
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Check out those holders that have been holding Bitcoin since year's ago. You don't know how many of them were minimum wage earners and they're able to surprisingly earn through holding Bitcoin and able to uplift their lives and way of living.

it’s really difficult for a minimum wage earner to invest in bitcoin especially if a) their country is a third world country and their minimum wage is barely enough for daily expenses b) they have previous commitments and responsibilities to pay c) the price of bitcoin is already too high

Yes they can buy through dca but even with that and transaction fees nowadays it’s extremely difficult to do so
Not all minimum wage earners find it unable to hodl bitcoin,  for those who truly understand what bitcoin is all about, no matter what they recieve as allowance they try their best to buy as little they can afford hodl. If you don't really understand bitcoin no matter the high earning you recieve it will be always difficult to invest in bitcoin.  Sometimes investing in Bitcoin is not just about how much you earn but the kind of mindset you have towards bitcoin. Investing bitcoin is never easy for people who don't understand it irrespective of how much you earn.  People who don't have good understanding about bitcoin are always inquisitive of earning money quick in bitcoin.

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To be honest, Bitcoin is not for everyone. Bitcoin is for everyone only if they use this as a payment channel or do not expect any good returns from it. People will low capital always end up losing money by investing in bitcoin because of their poor money management. People can make a profit out of Bitcoin only if they have good money management skills. If you invest $10 in Bitcoin, you should forget about this money. But people invest $10 in Bitcoin and start checking the price every day and check what is their position at this moment.

People should understand that Bitcoin won't give you profit overnight. We don't know how long it may take to give you a good return. Bitcoin is for people who have patience with their investments. They have to wait with their investment instead of checking it every day which is not possible for everyone. A person with a $3 average income a day cannot invest and forget about it.

Yes this is the big fault of Bitcoin investors that they hold bitcoin longer but wish to earn lots of money in a day due to which their emotions increase which will force them to do something worse that will just spoil their money. Market fluctuations will put wrong impacts on your investment if you get fear about lower price so don't be afraid and trust that Bitcoin will reach to your desired value.

Bitcoin holders should not think emotionally because they have to know about the fact that Bitcoin increase will take longer so regularly checking the price will just put you in a stressful situation. If someone invests in Bitcoin then he should think that taking profit before four years is not possible so by remembering this he will not think emotionally and will be ready for every condition.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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For me proverty is not the problem of a person but of the whole nation in my country the eradication of poverty has becomes necessary for the sustainable and inclusive growth of the let state the fate here Bitcoin has helps the poor by Increasin their savings and access to capital also it has help around 1.7million people in my country and also it has also impoverished people to control their investment.

You seem lost as to what Bitcoin actually is or can do for people. It's a way for people to exchange value, so that people don't have to swap pineapples they harvested for a haircut. A currency does solve any sort of poverty by itself, for that you need to have value creation activities taking place and on a wide enough scale to lift people out of a subsistence style economy. You should explain exactly how you think bitcoin has helped people increase their savings, because most people who were poor before bitcoin are still equally poor now. If people have access to an internet connection then they most likely have access to all sorts of other resources and can get credit, but that's got nothing to do with bitcoin.

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There are countries that have produced a lot of finance experts and citizens that have financial education and IMHO that adds a greater gain to the economy of those counties. So, it's about knowledge and not actually the product that they're going to use or the services that they're going to make. As long as most of the citizens are in-depth and well versed to Bitcoin or anything related to money, that can end the poverty from that country. But it also differs per preference of each citizen. Some may not prefer to get into these things even if it's promising and has the potential to end the cycle of their family's poverty.

And that's why if you're into that stage of thinking if it's going to end poverty of a nation, it possible can. But every nation has their own problems wherein the citizens can't be pushed to the best that they can and we've got different point of views to this regard. We are optimistic but on the otherhand, there goes the pessimistic folks that are thinking oppositely, obviously, that there's no way to end poverty but by just the traditional method that we used to know like in business or high salary jobs.

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