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March 19, 2023, 12:33:30 AM
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It's possible that some successful business has their own dark secret but assuming every successful business is a bit of a stretch. I still agree with your point about these secrets but there's no way to guarantee that all successful businesses have them.

The story you mentioned reminded me of how certain casinos try to bait their customers with their bonuses which can be misleading at times due to the rollover they require. This way it's not about the dark secret anymore but more about the people having less information on the risks they're taking.

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March 19, 2023, 12:59:12 AM
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Not all because there are some successful business that are clean but a lot of rumours only circulating about it just of make it down coming from their opponent business. A lot of people will drag you down when you are into business because people doesn't want success that is why they spread bad things. On the other hand those successful business would have possibility that they keep out thay secret to the authorities because majority of their earnings are coming from dark
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March 19, 2023, 01:21:20 AM
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Today I was reading some most successful businessman and other such successful people that are millionaires and also billionaires like Bill gate, Mark Zuckerberg and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.
My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.
I want to tell you a story of Successful Businessman in country who is Real Estate businessman and Rich people love to Invest in their housing Schemes. But He Gets access to most valuable land whom he gets it by hook or crook. My mean he Is partially a landlord and he has Done high damage to the poor people and they have lost their homes.
And Normal people do not know these kind of Secrets behind all of this and also on Gambling thing where a very minority of people gets succeeded.
I know that a lot of OP will not agree with me and let's see what are your opinions.


This statement depends a lot on what would be something obscure or not.
If you mean having unfair competition in the market, evading some taxes, failing to comply with certain labor rights and things like that, well... I believe that there is no company in the world that succeeds without having committed more than one of these "obscure" actions.

However, these minor issues aside, I believe there are many successful companies that have managed to achieve results by working legally.
To achieve success, it is not necessary to become a Microsoft, a chain of supermarkets or gas stations in several cities is already proof of a successful business.

When it comes to multinational companies, yes, I believe they all have something dark to hide. Perhaps, not because they want to, but because the corruption of some countries forces them to commit these irregularities in order to prosper.
Unfortunately, casinos are not left out of this.

Hopefully I'm wrong and it's possible to be big and honest at the same time.

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March 19, 2023, 02:14:23 AM
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It is not a dark secret, gambling is just one of their hobbies or sources of income. Remember that those billionaires and some millionaires have multiple sources of income so they are not focusing on betting. But there are special person who only has 1 source of income and it is from the gambling. They making a living by betting and it is a true story where some people became millionaire because of it but only handful of people because 95% are losing their money because of fear, greed and other negative emotion.

There are a lot of rewards in gambling where I can considered it as a great way to have a fortune but I understand the risk and I understand the nature of the uncertainty where it is a probability game and there is no assurance that I will win in every bet that I will bet. I only treat gambling as my side income and not my main source of income because I know if I do that, I may lose huge amount of fortune.
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March 19, 2023, 02:30:08 AM
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and Other Gamblers that became millionaires because of betting.
Can you make an example of who one person became a millionaire because of betting? because as know, it's rare to be a millionaire if you are still a player. Yes, many people came a millionaire not as a player, but as an owner or managers. some of them even not only managed on 1 site but several sites including gambling or more which is not the same type as service, property and etc. So, it's not much because success person will be going too hard work until his dream comes true.

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March 19, 2023, 03:27:42 AM
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There are dark secrets to success, there's no doubt about that. Some did it the hard way but cleaner but some used their power to make it possible.
In gambling, being a dirty business, there are more tricks than we cannot see. It's possible only a tiny percentage of people that knows it because they have access to this kind of scheme or let's say connection to the management of a gambling site or a physical casino.

About that real estate successful businessman, if we are in the same country then I might know who you are talking about.
He owns a lot of land all over the country that was bought for a cheap price and now he is building places such as condominiums or housing and then selling it for an expensive price. The "V"s.

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March 19, 2023, 03:40:38 AM
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I can't say it is actually a dark secret, it's more like businessmen taking advantage of people's ignorance for their own good and because of greed. And most people don't usually point it out because it's just there and it will be hard to take it out of the system. Successful businesses actually root from dedicated entrepreneurs who are willing to do everything. Business is not for purely kindhearted person, I think.

It's possible that some successful business has their own dark secret but assuming every successful business is a bit of a stretch. I still agree with your point about these secrets but there's no way to guarantee that all successful businesses have them.

The story you mentioned reminded me of how certain casinos try to bait their customers with their bonuses which can be misleading at times due to the rollover they require. This way it's not about the dark secret anymore but more about the people having less information on the risks they're taking.

All businesses have flaws and dirty secrets. They are not perfect. It is just about how they they hire the right persons and make things legal.

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March 19, 2023, 04:02:35 AM
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This is business and their intention of doing is to make money some people have their own ethics which may not harm others for their benefits while others don't have such and only concentrate on their profits, so this isn't limited to gambling every business sector has dark secrets too so as sn individual its important to understand every nook and corner before landing there as a business.
All businesses have a secret strategy and a successful business depends on that secret. And if everyone knew the same secret and went into business with the same secret, everyone would be a successful businessmen. Different businesses require different strategies.  And in order to survive in the market with business, it is necessary to adopt more different and better quality strategy than other competitors. To do business always plan, product selection, future plan, product quality, in such a way that it can attract customers.  And be better than other competitors.  Then a company's brand value will increase and it can be successful



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March 19, 2023, 04:20:46 AM
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Whether it is on business or in gambling in general, there are still dark secrets into it.
These are secrets that any normal people don't know, but on the other hand, they're the ones that are suffering because of what the rich can do to them.

As for dark secrets in gambling, there are some, but I believe the main reason why only a minor number of gamblers are winning is because of how they see gambling, and how they approach gambling. Most of the gamblers sees gambling as their way to financial freedom, and that isn't the correct way of seeing it. Many gamblers sees it as a way for them to make profit though there's nothing wrong with it, but that kind of thinking makes the majority of the gamblers lose more money.

For sure there are secrets in every business including gambling itself, but businessmen and casino owners worked hard for it, and they deserved what they achieved.

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In a business, there must be a dark secret that not many people know about and unfortunately, those successful business people don't say this and pretend that they are all clean and not involved in these dark things. It's possible that they still carry out this secret in running their business because we don't know the details about the business and only hear that they are successful people from one or several businesses.

That is no exception in the gambling business. With so much money circulating in the gambling business, it must have many secrets that we don't know. And we as ordinary people, also don't need to think about it seriously because it's difficult to get to the truth unless the casino owners want to reveal it to the public. But even if he disclosed it to the public, the other casino owners would deny it.

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March 19, 2023, 06:34:57 AM
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My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.

This need not be the case in all cases but I assume it is the case in many. Gucci, for example, spent many years evading taxes, which allowed the company to grow faster and accumulate more wealth for its owners. But the fact that things were done badly at the beginning does not mean that they are still being done today.

Gambling, for example, has always been linked to crime, mafias and money laundering, whereas today it is a regulated business, and in some cases a state-run business, as is the case with lotteries in Spain.

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But He Gets access to most valuable land whom he gets it by hook or crook. My mean he Is partially a landlord and he has Done high damage to the poor people and they have lost their homes.
But he has a right with the valuable land since he's a partially a landlord, it's not like he has no any portion of the land and he's create a fake document for claiming if the land is owned by him. What I heard is when the poor want to sell his house or land, the rich will force him to sell at the cheap price, since the poor has no option, he sell it for cheap. The rich will get a good house with cheap price and he can sell it at higher price.

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What they are saying about someone has to lose something for the winning to win big. The real estate business must be a dirty business for some powerful men. For him to have access to acres of land, he has to make people sell.

I saw the documentary about Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos buying up the farmlands, they are a few of the rich who could really implement a smart city on thier own land.

Rich always win because they have capability to buy what they think can generate them more profit from their acquired resources. And as long as those farmland paid according to its current value within the good will of farmers I guess nothing wrong with it. But we can't deny that other are forced to do it maybe due to financial crisis happened to them and those rich people take advantage with it to get what they want then this is how they do their dirty work since they can take advantage on several situations of poor people.

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Real life and the business world are so exciting so at that we must apply same rule to both, if you must succeed in anything, there is a price to be paid for every success is recorded, and not everything is explained in the public posts, there are some unexplainable experiences that are part of the success story.

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Nothing good comes easily as there re prices paid for every success achieved and gambling isn't exempted and most times, you must have heard of People talking so ill about gambling and gamblers, that's not because all gamblers or gambling ate evil but because people know how much risk gamblers are willing to take just to attain success and stay relevant.
For everything that we, has its consequences and there is also this saying that success comes from hard work and commitment and we really don't know how much effort or sacrifice they might have offered.

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My point is that Normal people see only their Success but they do not know that How much dark secrets are behind this.
Mostly people care that you are successful, but do not care how you became successful.

I agree that successful businesses have secrets, but not all the secrets are dark secrets like you are suggesting. There are trade secrets and strategies that businesses have discovered over the years from their experience in the trade, these trade secrets and strategies give them an edge over all other business in that line that maybe just started or have been operational since.

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I don't want to know the dark secret of every successful entrepreneur and let it be their dark secret. I just want to know how they can achieve that success and there are even some successful entrepreneurs out there, some who can reach it at a young age so they can already get passive income from their business. That's why we have to explore them to learn more from them.

I'm sure they will not tell their dark secret in running their business because it is their secret. We can only learn from the experiences and knowledge they share with the public so that the public can learn and apply their methods based on the current situation.
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I agree that successful businesses have secrets, but not all the secrets are dark secrets like you are suggesting. There are trade secrets and strategies that businesses have discovered over the years from their experience in the trade, these trade secrets and strategies give them an edge over all other business in that line that maybe just started or have been operational since.

Yeah absolutely, I agree with you. Every company, every entrepreneur, just like every human has secrets, and has things specific to its functioning that it does not share with others.
However, not all secrets are darks secrets, and fortunately!

Why would we think that ? There are just some people who have invested well, others who are creative, exceptionally intelligent, or just plain lucky. Some just inherited a fortune and started a successful business. While many successful businesses must have things to hide, dark secrets, I don't think you can generalize that to a universal law.

What is true is that people and companies that don't worry a lot about laws and morals tend to grow faster and perhaps miss fewer opportunities than others. But this does not negate the success of all the others who have remained honest

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March 19, 2023, 04:42:04 PM
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What they are saying about someone has to lose something for the winning to win big. The real estate business must be a dirty business for some powerful men. For him to have access to acres of land, he has to make people sell.

I saw the documentary about Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos buying up the farmlands, they are a few of the rich who could really implement a smart city on thier own land.
I agree, in order for you to succeed to something we need to let go some thing because we cannot do all the things at once. In all aspects, every businessman has their own way to make their business successful whether in a good way or not. Real estate is kinda dirty in some way yes, some people will get other clients such like that. Some rich people here in US bought farm lands so that they can convert it into subdivision or private property.
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March 19, 2023, 04:59:10 PM
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You may call it dark secrets but what I actually see is some of them taking advantage of the ignorance of the people that's why they were successful. I guess everyone of them has it–because if they aren't too hard for the others then someone will and they weren't on that position if they were too soft. I guess this is what they call as sacrifices in order to gain something at the top.

I agree with the reply above that some may have ethics in doing business while the others don't. And gambling isn't really ethical if you think about it because they have the right to ban someone if they saw it's getting a lot of money from them but they aren't doing dirty tricks so that people would actually lost their money to them. Just put it as an entertainment or a payment for their enjoyable stay in a casino.

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