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Author Topic: Chasing looses Vs Finding closure: Any difference?  (Read 931 times)
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March 29, 2023, 11:56:44 PM
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I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

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Attempts to return the lost will only aggravate the position of the gambler and he will leave even more of his money in the casino. It's like chasing a shadow: the more you lose, the more you want to return, and this gives rise to new losses. A vicious circle of player addiction from which it is almost impossible to break out on your own, if it has already come to this.

In gambling, you can't let your emotions take over. Either stick to the strategy and increase the deposit, or act thoughtlessly and drain the entire deposit. That guy's story on Reddit is a case in point.
It is true. It may be difficult to keep away from it once it is done. Chasing losses had always been the main problem of any gambler, it's the ego that tells us that we must win no matter what and this is the reason why gambling businesses will just keep on piling up. They know the incoming money from this industry is a nonstop cycle too due to the fact that gamblers tend to like having their revenge once their losses are soaring.

There must be a game plan. A strategy. A budget. All of those will play a big role to keep one gambler's discipline intact. Bring only what you can afford to lose but with how accessible gambling platforms are today, it must be harder for them to keep the discipline. It's always open, there's no such thing as closing time.

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March 30, 2023, 03:33:28 AM
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I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.
They are not the same thing, it is true that for that person chasing their losses and getting closure are the same, but that does not mean that every single person out there thinks the same thing, most of the time getting closure for most gamblers is to come to accept that no matter what they do they cannot recover the money they have lost already, so as you can see for most gamblers those words mean absolutely the opposite of chasing their losses.
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March 30, 2023, 05:05:33 AM
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Never heard about closure, or what it means until now, I tried Googling what closure really mean, and from the answers I got, it clearly explains that, chasing losses and seeking closure are not the same thing..

Chasing losses is more like revenge gambling, trying in all forceful way to recover what have been lost, the result of this is anger, disappointments, anxiety, anxiousness, this could lead to more losses, which would eventually end in regrets and even more regrets..

On the other hand, to seek closure, in simple terms means accepting your loses, but keep gambling without any negative emotions attached - this is clearly different from chasing loses.
The word closure isn't a gambling term, but it is just an English word that basically means to close something, and what the guy on Reddit was referring to by using this word to end his gaming session with a winning bet or maybe after winning some of his lost money back, which is basically either chasing his losses or trying to win a lot of bets both of which aren't really things one should go after in gambling.

So basically he was just asking if he should do that and win some of his money back to have a good closure of his gambling session or just stop right there. So closure doesn't mean accepting your losses and keeping gambling but it means closing down or ending the gambling either by accepting your losses or being on the winning side.

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March 30, 2023, 09:14:25 AM
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They are not the same thing, it is true that for that person chasing their losses and getting closure are the same, but that does not mean that every single person out there thinks the same thing, most of the time getting closure for most gamblers is to come to accept that no matter what they do they cannot recover the money they have lost already, so as you can see for most gamblers those words mean absolutely the opposite of chasing their losses.
And a good gambler have no problem if his ending gambling session is lost, while a gambler addict will chasing his losses until he make money, he doesn't care if he have gamble for 12 hours or using all of his money, he only want to make money.

It's really sick to see someone is really addicted to make money through gamble, he can't accept to learn new skill in order to increase or get a new job with better salary.

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March 30, 2023, 09:55:53 AM
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I don't know what closure he means, but it is very shallow, and I don't really understand if it is about closure because if you are chasing losses, it is about getting your money back, and there are no feelings involved with it, only emotions of greed. For me, no matter the reason, chasing losses can make you lose more, so it is better to prevent them, and for sure, those who will say any reason for chasing it is just an excuse for sure
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March 30, 2023, 11:25:31 AM
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I don't know what closure he means, but it is very shallow, and I don't really understand if it is about closure because if you are chasing losses, it is about getting your money back, and there are no feelings involved with it, only emotions of greed. For me, no matter the reason, chasing losses can make you lose more, so it is better to prevent them, and for sure, those who will say any reason for chasing it is just an excuse for sure
Finding closure if you think about it is like finding opportunities to be able to cover all losses.
It's just that not many gamblers can have this opportunity even only those who are so lucky can get it.
Of course, chasing losses is really not recommended, especially if when chasing losses there is already emotion and greed that controls oneself, then in the end, losing more can easily occur.
It would be nice if the gambler experiences a loss, he can stop betting and then leave the casino for a while. This seems easy to talk about, but difficult to implement.

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March 30, 2023, 04:06:44 PM
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In gambling there will be wins and losses. But if someone loses again and again, a kind of reaction is born in him. He feels that he needs to recover his loss immediately but pursuing that loss recovery he has to lose everything. Those who can play with a break after losing or winning will have more winnings or can survive. Remember that luck is very important. Take a break in gambling is the key on days when you are repeatedly losing.

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March 30, 2023, 04:24:13 PM
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I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.
They are not the same thing, it is true that for that person chasing their losses and getting closure are the same, but that does not mean that every single person out there thinks the same thing, most of the time getting closure for most gamblers is to come to accept that no matter what they do they cannot recover the money they have lost already, so as you can see for most gamblers those words mean absolutely the opposite of chasing their losses.

Indeed! valid point as there are always different approach and different perspectives in each individual and all are opinion based, we don't know or we can't push our own opinions with other people, especially those who thinks that they are doing it the right way, or the understanding and believe that they are in the right track.

It's an option that only gambler who can speak up with their own decision and with their actions.

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March 30, 2023, 05:02:46 PM
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And a good gambler have no problem if his ending gambling session is lost, while a gambler addict will chasing his losses until he make money, he doesn't care if he have gamble for 12 hours or using all of his money, he only want to make money.

It's really sick to see someone is really addicted to make money through gamble, he can't accept to learn new skill in order to increase or get a new job with better salary.

In your opinion, what are the criteria for a good gambler, because, in gambling or betting, winning and losing is commonplace. and we as gamblers, must know very well that this one hobby, has risks contained in it. not only losing money, but can change our psychology, especially those that lead to addiction.
addiction has several criteria, some addicts, do not really care about the money they get from gambling sessions. I mean, whatever victory they get doesn't make them satisfied. even most of them, just want to fulfill a high desire to gamble. yes, the money they win, the beginning of the end will be at stake again.

To be honest, i don't get the essence of a good gambler. as far as I know, gamble within the limits we can afford, without having to harm other people. plus, always avoid always chasing losses. moreover, as the OP stated in this thread. finding closure, is only part of the justification of someone who really only wants to recover defeat.
By the way, whatever you say, there's nothing wrong with that.

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I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.
They are not the same thing, it is true that for that person chasing their losses and getting closure are the same, but that does not mean that every single person out there thinks the same thing, most of the time getting closure for most gamblers is to come to accept that no matter what they do they cannot recover the money they have lost already, so as you can see for most gamblers those words mean absolutely the opposite of chasing their losses.

Indeed! valid point as there are always different approach and different perspectives in each individual and all are opinion based, we don't know or we can't push our own opinions with other people, especially those who thinks that they are doing it the right way, or the understanding and believe that they are in the right track.

It's an option that only gambler who can speak up with their own decision and with their actions.

Some gamblers' closure for the day is when all that's left in his pocket is a taxi fare. We can't really dictate the limit of someone's gambling pursuit when he is up to go big or go home. Sometimes a person wouldn't sleep on it to gamble another day. They just want to go big or go home with nothing and nothing for the next day.  Grin


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Some gamblers' closure for the day is when all that's left in his pocket is a taxi fare. We can't really dictate the limit of someone's gambling pursuit when he is up to go big or go home. Sometimes a person wouldn't sleep on it to gamble another day. They just want to go big or go home with nothing and nothing for the next day.  Grin

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.

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April 02, 2023, 02:50:38 AM
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Some gamblers' closure for the day is when all that's left in his pocket is a taxi fare. We can't really dictate the limit of someone's gambling pursuit when he is up to go big or go home. Sometimes a person wouldn't sleep on it to gamble another day. They just want to go big or go home with nothing and nothing for the next day.  Grin

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.
What happens is that when you are gambling at a physical casino you are subject to all kind of subtle techniques that the casino uses to make you to spend more, so before you know it you have lost all your money and you have no idea of how this could have happened, but when you are gambling online you are the one in control of your environment, and as such it is more difficult for online casinos to incite you to gamble with the same ease that a psychical casino can.
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April 02, 2023, 03:50:57 AM
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I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

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I think that's the worst thing any gambler can possibly do and most gamblers still do it no matter how hard they try to stop gambling when losing. If you intend to find closure by trying to gather your loses only God knows where thats gonna end you, you might end up losing your whole money so its better you just stop gamble when you are experiencing a losing spree because your emotions can also trigger you to loose more because at that moment you won't  be thinking straight so its better to close the gamble because chasing your loses can only result to one outcome which is more loses.
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April 02, 2023, 04:34:36 AM
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I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/120jc8a/should_i_gamble_until_i_win_so_that_i_can_have_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=3&utm_content=share_button
I say these two words are the same as never stop gambling.
chasing defeat and seeking closure are the same thing. in the end the gambler will lose continuously and get big wins that are not worth the loss after that the gambler will continue to bet increasing the bet amount to get back all his losses but that is something in vain and lose even more.

it will go on and on never finding closure and always chasing defeat.

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April 02, 2023, 08:00:46 AM
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I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.
I have a different opinion, I think it's easier to quit in physical gambling rather than online gambling because in physical gambling you're not entirely gambling, but you can also have fun with your friends and have a drink. In online gambling it's make you easy to deposit your money using any digital wallet fiat or crypto. Most of people who're gamble on online casino is to make money and no one will stop you to gamble.

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April 02, 2023, 08:24:59 AM
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I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.
I have a different opinion, I think it's easier to quit in physical gambling rather than online gambling because in physical gambling you're not entirely gambling, but you can also have fun with your friends and have a drink. In online gambling it's make you easy to deposit your money using any digital wallet fiat or crypto. Most of people who're gamble on online casino is to make money and no one will stop you to gamble.
There are also many people who like physical gambling, when they lose, they go to a friend's house or a loan shark, then pawn their assets and go back to gambling to continue the physical gambling. After all, all gambling is the same, whether online or physical, everything is almost the same and nothing is different. when people have started to become addicts, they will continue to play to return all the money that has been lost no matter what. it's a hard one to stop

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April 02, 2023, 08:31:48 AM
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Some gamblers' closure for the day is when all that's left in his pocket is a taxi fare. We can't really dictate the limit of someone's gambling pursuit when he is up to go big or go home. Sometimes a person wouldn't sleep on it to gamble another day. They just want to go big or go home with nothing and nothing for the next day.  Grin

I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.
What happens is that when you are gambling at a physical casino you are subject to all kind of subtle techniques that the casino uses to make you to spend more, so before you know it you have lost all your money and you have no idea of how this could have happened, but when you are gambling online you are the one in control of your environment, and as such it is more difficult for online casinos to incite you to gamble with the same ease that a psychical casino can.

Yes! Inside physical casinos there are many factors that will drive you to keep playing the game, even you are already in the winning side the atmosphere will keep you to keep rolling and to keep chasing for more luck, on then you realized once losing streaks will hit you back and you will find yourself empty-handed!

Same with you. Online casinos have a lesser chance of pushing you unless you are already addicted and the word limitation is no longer effective. Chances are that you will also burn all your savings by keeping depositing and losing with the game you play.

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April 02, 2023, 08:45:59 AM
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I really need a clarification on this. Is chasing looses in gambling same as looking for closure because i recently read an article on reddit where the poster said that he will gamble untill he wins just to look for closure. I have been thinking about this for sometime now because closure has the same characteristics with chasing looses which is even when the gambler is loosing he will still be gambling just to recover all his looses.

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I say these two words are the same as never stop gambling.
chasing defeat and seeking closure are the same thing. in the end the gambler will lose continuously and get big wins that are not worth the loss after that the gambler will continue to bet increasing the bet amount to get back all his losses but that is something in vain and lose even more.

it will go on and on never finding closure and always chasing defeat.
Chasing losses before quitting is like you want to feel satisfied that you somehow get back what you have lost before completely stop your gambling habit. But we know chasing your losses can cause further losses since winning is uncertain. So it's not a good idea if you really want to stop playing and move on.

Anyway, it's not easy to quit if you can't accept your past losses because chasing it doesn't mean you're seeking for closure. if you want to stop, you can self exclude yourself, if you want closure then go to a place where you can't access on internet to gamble online and far from friends that can attract you to play in physical casino.

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April 02, 2023, 09:06:43 AM
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I knew people whose into physical gambling that will only go home once they lost every penny they have, that will be the only time they will think to stop or when they can't borrow any money from someone they know that is also in the area. This attitude is normal to those who gambling physically but to those who gamble online it's easier to limit ourselves to avoid more losses since we can stop ourselves to deposit more money in casino, we can limit ourselves per game and only deposit money we allotted for gambling, it's either lose or win.
I have a different opinion, I think it's easier to quit in physical gambling rather than online gambling because in physical gambling you're not entirely gambling, but you can also have fun with your friends and have a drink. In online gambling it's make you easy to deposit your money using any digital wallet fiat or crypto. Most of people who're gamble on online casino is to make money and no one will stop you to gamble.
Correct. And the accessibility is what keeps them on coming back over and over.
Just open your computer or smartphone with an internet connection, then voila, you could play nonstop without thinking about the business closing time.
That is why gambling responsibly advertisements had been scattered on social media and the internet these days. We are prone to being gambling addicts anytime because of the easy accessibility of our hobbies.
It's not like someone is forcing us to go back even if we already lost our funds, it's the mentality of getting revenge and chasing the losses that make us return to our seats, deposit, and gamble again.

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April 02, 2023, 09:22:58 AM
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I think "closure" are not the primary reason why people wants to chase losses...

There are a lot of gamblers out there that wants to win the house and they cannot take it that the house always wins. They think if they gambled say $50 000 over the period that they gambled at that casino and they suddenly win $20 000 ...that they won against the house.  Roll Eyes

It is very rare for people to win more money than what they wagered at the casino and 9 out of 10 times, those gamblers come back again and lose all that money again.  Tongue

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