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April 05, 2023, 09:40:32 AM
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Capitalism has changed the power of the world economy, capitalists can now easily dominate and control a country's economy, they are the real rulers, unfortunately many countries do not care about issues like this so they choose to close their eyes and allow capitalist practices.
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April 05, 2023, 01:52:36 PM
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Capitalism has changed the power of the world economy, capitalists can now easily dominate and control a country's economy, they are the real rulers, unfortunately many countries do not care about issues like this so they choose to close their eyes and allow capitalist practices.


I think that viewpoint is a bit too narrow. A capitalist can be some who makes a 1000 per week, which is in many countries a low income. Same with calling people rich because there is a belief that instead of a thousand he makes 10k without any proof that it is that way.
Even a millionaire is not that rich as many think just because he has 2 houses each 500 k worth.

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April 05, 2023, 02:58:13 PM
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It can be said that the point of view on morality is a complex issue and there are many different views. There may be conflict between ethical views and financial and business regulations, however this does not mean that ethical concepts are being killed by the imposed laws of capital. Financial and business regulations can be established to ensure soundness and honesty in business operations, while protecting consumer interests and ensuring growth. But bringing politics in to see how it affects morality I think it's fair enough, when each of us was born and raised in a common environment, the earth, why keep separate, when that we can love and help each other equally. I understand the moral chaos of the moment, because it is impossible to keep it good forever according to one's own understanding, and everything when it grows to a certain extent, there is a deterioration, if it's better then it'll thrive again.
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April 05, 2023, 04:40:24 PM
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Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?


You do realize usury is defined as excess rates of interest far higher than the norm?

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interest at unreasonably high rates.
Origin

Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French usurie, or from medieval Latin usuria, from Latin usura, from usus ‘a use’ (see use).
Use over time for: usury"

so if I lend you 100 dollars and want 105 back a week later = usury

and if a bank or even I lend you 100 dollars and want 105 back in a year = a legal enough loan





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April 05, 2023, 07:31:11 PM
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Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?


You do realize usury is defined as excess rates of interest far higher than the norm?

"Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
u·su·ry
noun
noun: usury
the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.
"the medieval prohibition on usury"
Similar:
extortionate moneylending
payday lending
loan-sharking
View 1 offensive word
ARCHAIC
interest at unreasonably high rates.
Origin

Middle English: from Anglo-Norman French usurie, or from medieval Latin usuria, from Latin usura, from usus ‘a use’ (see use).
Use over time for: usury"

so if I lend you 100 dollars and want 105 back a week later = usury

and if a bank or even I lend you 100 dollars and want 105 back in a year = a legal enough loan





Usury? Nah, it's more like "you-sorry," am I right? But for real, interest rates ain't the enemy; they're just part of the game. They let lenders stack that paper while borrowers get that cash they need. Sure, there are some sketchy lenders out there, but let's focus on taking them down instead of hating on interest rates.

So when you borrow some dough, don't stress about usury. Just check the deets and know what you're getting into. And remember, borrowing can be a dope way to level up your life, as long as you keep it smart.

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April 05, 2023, 07:38:49 PM
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Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?
Usury and prostitution are older than the term and concept of capitalism. The world has been always like this. Actually, it's said prostitution is the oldest of all professions in the world.

There are people who are greedy and want to earn money without any efforts, through the use of their own money or own bodies, then we have loan sharks and prostitutes. And even though they are frowned up in most socities, they have always existed, because there is constant demand for those services...

However, don't put this over capitalism's shoulders, as they exist as independent things.

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April 05, 2023, 08:05:34 PM
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You accuse me of being a peasant. Then you must pass this test.

If your mom and 7 niggers were in an action movie(?), would you consider it normal? Would that be an art for you?

Do you think women who commit suicide while working in the porn industry are doing it because they're happy with their lives? Why are so many porn victims killing themselves?

Women who commit suicide in the porn industry do so not because of what they do but because of the stigmatization and judgement of people like you. You can't just pick and choose what's immoral and what is not for everyone. I don't know what race or religion you belong to but if you tell me and I'm willing to indulge you I can pick out a few things that you do that are immoral to a certain set of people.

By the way, stop that sorry line of "why are so many porn victims killing themselves".
Suicide rate in general has increase. We have religious people committing suicide these days, people who do "honest work" according to you commit suicide. People from every single part of life commit suicide.

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April 05, 2023, 09:39:48 PM
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It is important to note that different societies and cultures may have different views on what is considered moral or immoral, and laws can reflect those societal norms and values.

It is also worth considering that regulations and laws can be put in place to protect consumers and ensure fair business practices, rather than solely to make more money for capitalists. Therefore, it is not accurate to suggest that all laws regulating these industries are solely motivated by profit.

Overall, the issue of the relationship between morality and capitalism is complex and multifaceted, and there are many different perspectives and arguments on the matter.
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April 06, 2023, 08:29:11 AM
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You accuse me of being a peasant. Then you must pass this test.

If your mom and 7 niggers were in an action movie(?), would you consider it normal? Would that be an art for you?

Do you think women who commit suicide while working in the porn industry are doing it because they're happy with their lives? Why are so many porn victims killing themselves?

Women who commit suicide in the porn industry do so not because of what they do but because of the stigmatization and judgement of people like you. You can't just pick and choose what's immoral and what is not for everyone. I don't know what race or religion you belong to but if you tell me and I'm willing to indulge you I can pick out a few things that you do that are immoral to a certain set of people.

By the way, stop that sorry line of "why are so many porn victims killing themselves".
Suicide rate in general has increase. We have religious people committing suicide these days, people who do "honest work" according to you commit suicide. People from every single part of life commit suicide.


Why are you curious about my religion? I did not give any religious reference in my arguments. Why do you associate morality with religion only? Is morality monopolized only by religion? Anyway, this is irrelevant to the topic, but to satisfy your curiosity, I can say that I do not believe in God and I am a member of the human race. I am against the destruction of moral and virtue rules created by the history of humanity by the capital class.

Women who commit suicide in the porn industry experience it because of the bullying in the industry.

https://meaww.com/why-porn-stars-kill-themselves-death-suicide-dakota-s-kye-dahlia-sky-porn-industry-depression

You unrelatedly associate the issue with the religious in order to ignore those who pushed them to this extinction. They use vulnerable women for their bad purposes to make more money. I find this immoral. I don't think it's right to ignore the way greedy people hurt others.


P.S. I am starting to think this discussion is not fruitful. I will lock this thread in a few days.

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