Rigged Game

[Hispo]

I do not blame you to consider the possibility that rigged games even going on to this day. Rigged casino games have been a thing, even before the invention of the internet and the online gambling we all know today.

I would say that in order to be able to tell or have a hint whether some game are rigged against the player or not, it would take us to know a bit about the law of probabilities, studying about the mathematics behind the games we play, it is always useful to sharpen our intuition.

For example, if I played dices and went for a 80% chance and low multiplier and I ended up losing 10 times in a streak. That would indeed spark some suspicion if we know the chances of it.

Also, sticking to provably fair games and understand how one can check the integrity of our session is useful.

We should not be afraid of learning those things.

[_act_]

Casino that have legitimate license and good partners for providing games should be good, but I would always have more faith in more established casinos like sportsbet.

Sportbet is good, I have used it before too, but recently I am using Flush and Livecasino, have you used any of the site before? There are many casinos on the gambling board too which are good. You can try any of those sites too and see how good they are. What I am going for is reputation, it will be known if a casino is manipulating. But why manipulating when there is house hedge. We should avoid fake casinos.

[Frankolala]

This depends on the casino that you are gambling on,playing on a reputable casine will help you free your mind from if your game is been rigged on not. I do gamble but I have never thought of this idea because I believe that any day I lose 20 straight games,that day is not a lucky day for me and I will instantly stop gambling till another day.

It also depends on the type of game that you are gambling on,like if you gamble on sportbet live matches,you will never think on this because it is impossible as the players determines the outcome of the result.

[khaled0111]

Most if not all big and reputable casinos or game providers have partnership with licensed and recognized third party auditors. The role of those auditors is to regularly test the casino games to ensure their RNG system work properly and are not flawed.
This is why you need to play on reputed casinos and know the auditing organization.
A better option to ensure you are not being cheated is to play only provably fair games. This way, you can verify the fairness of the game by yourself without having to trust the casino or any third party entity.

[acroman08]

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

would you mind clarifying what casino it is? I did a quick search and the only casino I found when putting "Aztec casino" on the search bar is "Aztecwins.com". is that the casino you are talking about?

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

one way to know if the game in a casino is rigged is if the casino game is provably fair, basically provably fair lets you verify your bets to make sure that the result of your bet is not rigged or wrong(if you want more information about provably fair check this article.)

[TimeTeller]

Most if not all big and reputable casinos or game providers have partnership with licensed and recognized third party auditors. The role of those auditors is to regularly test the casino games to ensure their RNG system work properly and are not flawed.
This is why you need to play on reputed casinos and know the auditing organization.
A better option to ensure you are not being cheated is to play only provably fair games. This way, you can verify the fairness of the game by yourself without having to trust the casino or any third party entity.

That's one approach that you can do to make sure your game is not rigged.
If the provable fairness is in place in the casino aside from having its reputation.
If you are in doubt, you can always check the provable fairness of the game, maybe not all games but you can do random check.
Also, as you said, those with licensed casinos have their third party auditors. But if in case they missed it, you can always check the fairness of the game.
There are several threads in the forum with comprehensive discussions on this matter.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227525.0 - Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445025.0 - Random Number Generator and it's importance in Online Casinos
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438087.0 - What are the origins of provably fair technology in gambling?

[BitcoinPanther]

There are many problems that are affecting online casinos either due to been illegal operations or fraud cases like

Fake Advert, Payment Problems, Spamming Gamblers etc

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

There is no doubt that there are rouge casinos.  So it is not a news to hear news like rigged house edge in order to make players win less and even modified script to rig the result of luck-based games in a casino.  One solution here is only play on the reputable casinos.  Those that have licenses and is operating for years and have easy access on customer support staff.

Casinos that performs fraud and scams are often unlicensed casinos or not reputable one even though they have a long history of establishment and at the same time long history of scamming their players.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

One good thing that happen in an online casino is the establishment of crypto casino. As far as I know the establishment of crypto casino gives way to provably fair system where a player can verify the fairness of the game.

[ralle14]

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

As long as they're not from any game providers and there's a way to verify the game manually then it's possible to see and confirm if they're rigged or not.

You'll need some proof to back it up so if the casino won't provide the necessary details to verify the bet then you just have to take their word for it or avoid the game on your own.

I remember the case of luckygames back then as they tried to rig their games due to one of their winning players.

[rodskee]

Whenever entering gambling site, I already accept the fact that losing 90% is there and chances of winning is very tin that wont affect my mindset to enjoy.
so knowing if you are  being rigged or the casino rigged their game is just another issue, and maybe they will managed to do that  sometime but the problem is it will comes out in the future, meaning that wrong doing will eventually broadcast.
scammers will always be burned mate.

[Chato1977]

let them rigged their game , this will sooner bring them down like what all scam site does.

[Nrcewker]

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

It’s always advised that avoid new and less popular casinos. You are here to gamble and make money, so you won’t get any benefit if you play at newly launched casinos. Moreover these types of tricks are mainly made by these casinos. They make small modifications in their game’s server and hence always wins when you place big bets. On the other hand if you want to check manually whether the game is fair or not, then you can simply check their provably fair system and verify your seeds. But I would still suggest you to play at old and established casinos, they are always friendly and have good reputation. Now the choice is yours OP.

[peter0425]

Am not sure if there are reputable casino that will glad to rig their  own game since there are provider that do this for them and only them to operate .
and there are some casino that had been running good for long time , so why need to engage in scam sites?
find legitimate casino , and you can find those more in this forum.

not sure why there are still some gamblers here in bitcointalk that being lured in scam sites while they can clearly ask the community about the said site they will going to play.

[piebeyb]

Aren't all casinos set up to win but it will be cheating too if the house always wins in almost all games on their platform, I'm also actually hard to say they are cheating because maybe I'm just unlucky playing in the casino, we can't do anything because no one will believe with us that's why i prefer sports betting because it can't be cheated than a provably fair casino i never trust that, if you feel you are cheated just leave the casino

[tusandii]

Casino that have legitimate license and good partners for providing games should be good, but I would always have more faith in more established casinos like sportsbet.

Sportbet is good, I have used it before too, but recently I am using Flush and Livecasino, have you used any of the site before? There are many casinos on the gambling board too which are good. You can try any of those sites too and see how good they are. What I am going for is reputation, it will be known if a casino is manipulating. But why manipulating when there is house hedge. We should avoid fake casinos.

For Livecasino I also use it and it does have quite a good selection of games and is not inferior to other big casino sites.
So far, Livecasino has quite good trust and reputation in the gambling industry and is trusted by many gamblers.
Even though Livecasino is not my favorite and reliable casino site, I can rely on them too and can provide pleasure when betting there. Manipulation is carried out only by scam casinos who want to make profits quickly but casinos like this do not have reputation and trust. We can find out and avoid casinos like this by looking at their feedback on forums because of course a bad casino will have many users suggesting to never try to use it.

[ethereumhunter]

I just thought I would be unlucky if I lost many games and wouldn't blame the casino because it was my own fault. Also, I only play in trusted casinos so I would not believe that they are cheating the players and taking the money, even if it is a small amount of money.

There might be a way of knowing that a casino is cheating or honest but I don't know how. If you play at a casino suspected of cheating its members, you may also be suspicious of the casino.

Well, as much as gambling is concern, once you’re unlucky, it’s possible that you will end up losing from all your games and eventually used up all your money. However, in cases that the games are rigged, that’s the main reason why we should avoid playing unlicensed casinos because they can actually do that, unfortunately we can’t sue them for that since they are even unregistered. And maybe there’s a way of identifying the games that are being rigged, but maybe the casinos are not practicing it or it’s just that no casino will ever admit that their games are rigged regardless of how reputable or not the casino is.

Instead of running the risk of fraud, we better avoid it because usually scam casinos will tempt gamblers by launching attractive promotions so that gamblers can visit and play gambling at the casino. This is what we have to avoid if we don't want to get experience being cheated by a fraudulent casino and also we will find it difficult to prove that the casino is cheating its players. And even if there is a way to identify rigged games, it won't be easy for us to get back the money we lost because they will deny it, especially if it's big money.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Whenever entering gambling site, I already accept the fact that losing 90% is there and chances of winning is very tin that wont affect my mindset to enjoy.
so knowing if you are  being rigged or the casino rigged their game is just another issue, and maybe they will managed to do that  sometime but the problem is it will comes out in the future, meaning that wrong doing will eventually broadcast.
scammers will always be burned mate.

What happens is that it is very difficult to determine when they are rigging a game, it is difficult for us as players to prove it, I have always trusted Provably Fair,for me a game is rigged on Machines when it is not active,now,a game is rigged as soon as Sports is another matter, it is something that Should only be well connected with privileged Information for it, and obviously a lot of Money is needed to be in that environment or people Who have a lot to prove, there are many Chaos that can arise ,only that how to do when Things are like this and demonstrate that it was actually manipulated? In every Casino it is known that there is always an advantage of the house and Even of the game itself, we Cannot see the game as a way to make easy money, it is best to See it as a way to have fun to entertain ourselves and accept the results.

[Wexnident]

But one comes in mind that I can't get rid of, those that Rigged their games, I don't know if people actually know that some online casinos Rigged their games, like the Aztec casino that was labeled a scam casino for example.

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

You don't. In most cases of rigged games, you usually find out it's rigged a period after the rigged games happen, and it depends as well depending on the amount of notice it has. It may take days if a LOT of people took note, or months to years if there were only a few (and by then it'd almost be forgotten or dropped by those who noticed it in the first place). It's why in the first place you'd choose to play on reputable casinos, and even if you do play on new ones, you wouldn't try to spend that much until at least enough time was given to guarantee that the casino isn't trying to run away with your money. Ofc this doesn't stop old casinos from going awol all of a sudden, but hey, nothing we can do there really.

[davis196]

My question is how can one know that their game is rigged? If you play over 20 games and you lose it all, no one will believe you if you say that their is something wrong with the platform because truthfully as a gambler you have to lose, so what way can you actually know that a casino game is been rigged?

Only the dumb and greedy casino owners would make a game totally rigged, so that the gambler will lose 20 times in a row.
Smart casino owners make the games rigged in a way that allows the gamblers to win small in the beginning, so that they get addicted.
After they start betting big amounts, the rigged games start working and they lose big amounts. Can someone prove that the games are rigged? I don't know. I never really trusted in the "probably fair" concept. I always gamble for fun and not with the intention of making money.
I don't gamble big amounts, because I know that I'm going to lose them in one way or another.

[Crypt0Gore]

I have read about how some organizations that approve games for online casinos to make sure that the games are fair and completely transparent, like iTech Labs and eCOGRA, I don't know if any online casinos are using this companies to appear clean and trustable for their customers, since such companies exist it shows that some online gambling games are lacking fairness and transparency. Gamblers need to do the work themselves and do research on a casino very well before becoming a casino customer.

[Kakmakr]

This type of thing will only happen if the casino you are playing on.... has no third party slots. It can happen if the casino has their own in-house games, but they have to be stupid to configure those games on a 100% house edge.  

I never place huge starting bets on a new casino, because I always test their RTP first ...with $0.10 and $0.20 bets. The third party slot providers set the RTP for the casino, so the casino cannot cheat with their games.